Rauf Klasra is putting his weight on govt side, favoring Ch. Nisar and his offers

Res1Pect

Minister (2k+ posts)




On ARY, Rauf Klasra is saying that IK should trust Ch. Nisar and the Parliament in the matter of Rigging Investigation.

Such a childish, or it may be on-purpose ill-will to IK, suggestion it is. Even a child knows in Pakistan that Noon Govt and their supporting political parties are absolutely untrustworthy.


This would be a complete fiasco on part of IK if he trusts PML-N, PPP or any other political party in case of rigging.
 
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Khubaib Alam

Minister (2k+ posts)
Bro constitution does'nt allow removal of PM in this way, and rigidity is stupidity...you can not earn anything by taking some matter to dead end.Politics is all about negotiations, and a democratic gov can not be dissolved in this way. I assure you we have elected this gov and we will never let anyone to disgrace our vote
 

wamufti

Senator (1k+ posts)
Bhai barf aasihta aahista pighalti he. Govt is now trying to understand ground reality. PMLN has never faced any public agitation - this is first time and it will take sometime for them to digest.
 

uturninqlab

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Lo G ab is Rauf Galasara ki khair nahin , is statement se pehlay wo HERO ka darja ralhta tha ab os ko maa behn ki galian parrain gi...Pothians ki na dosti achi na dushmani :)
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
I think Klasra also doesn't trust his own words on TV about the Dramabzi & Lies of Nooras.

If a person completely back off from his own words within hours on the floor of the house, should he be trusted again?

Klasra also forgets that in 2008, Ch Nisar and Raja Zafarul Haq had assured IK & the rest about boycott of Elections and threatened of leaving their party if Nawaz backtracked. And after then, we know what happened? This is the party of Jokers and liars.
 
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wamufti

Senator (1k+ posts)
Bro constitution does'nt allow removal of PM in this way, and rigidity is stupidity...you can not earn anything by taking some matter to dead end.Politics is all about negotiations, and a democratic gov can not be dissolved in this way. I assure you we have elected this gov and we will never let anyone to disgrace our vote


Bhai Khubaib - One golden rule in democracy is dignity and self respect. People who do believe in democracy must have high morals. PTI is not asking to remove the NS sb with force - I will be honest no one can. But he should have high morals when 2nd largest party is alleging him of rigging. He should have a heart of it. I agree that PTI has taken it to extreme - but do you think when they left Lahore and also while they were sitting in Abpara - NS sb should have rendered his resignation to strengthen the democracy.

We believe in democracy - thats why PTI is not going to create a scene in Islamabad and give a way or chance that will lead to Martial Law.

How pity is this situation - it all started with 4 halkas - and PMLN wouldnt listen. Dua karen - Allah khair kare ga
 

Res1Pect

Minister (2k+ posts)
Bro, can you quote ONE GOOD THING that has been carried out in the light of 'the Golden Book' constitution? From your picture, you seem to have shuffled lots of paper in your life, though appearances are often quite deceptive. Do you really know, placing false blames against Army while speaking at the Parliament Floor is a crime which takes death punishment according to Article 6.

Would you also like to apply the word 'Rigidity' on the 'stubbornness of Sharif Brothers'???

I feel pity on the mental health of people who call the 'Dirty System in Place' in Pakistan a Democratic System. It's become as bright as the day light that the current govt has come into existence after stealing the genuine mandate of the people of Pakistan, which again is an article 6 crime, Damaging the State, asking for the Death Penalty.

By putting up a nice suit and by binding your kneck with a tie, you can't remove from you the 'skin color' of a Noora. It reminds me a proverbial line from the world of English literature which says:

All the pefumes of Arabia can't remove the reek of blood you have on your hands.

A Noora remains a Jahil, even he hides his ignorance and arrogance under One Thousand layers of Civility and Decency.
 

Asad Khan

MPA (400+ posts)
If the constitution is rigid then rigidity is the only way left to fix it. When democracy or the constitution isn't or doesn't represents the wishes of the masses it only hastens its demise. The constitution is for the people not the other way round. Our constitution is static, or deliberately made so by the interests groups, stuck in the 70's and 80's just like the mental calibre of the majority of the politicians. We need a new contract between the state and the people in a fair and just way. And trusting Nisar who is no more than a mouth piece of the Shareefs to stand up for truth is plain stupid if not outright lunatic. Why would I ever change the rules if they are and have worked so well for me, so those thinking these status-quo forces would ever agree to meaningful changes are either naive, delusional or have an axe of their own to grind.
 

Resonant

MPA (400+ posts)
تو کیا عزت بچ گئی؟؟؟

ایک شخص دوڑنے کے انداز میں سڑک پر بہت تیز تیز قدم اٹھاتا جارہا تھا کسی نے روک کر پوچھا کہ بتاؤ تو آخر کیا ہوا کیوں اتنی تیز چل رہے ہو کیا کوئی ایمرجنسی ہے؟ جواب میں اس نے کہا کہ پچھلے چوک پر لوگ والد صاحب کو زدو کوب کرکے گالیاں دے رہے ہیں ،۔۔۔۔۔چنانچہ میں عزت بچا کر آگیا ہوں۔
شائد حکومت اور دو نمبر اپوزیشن جو حرکتیں کر رہے ہیں اور خود کو دھوکا دیکراپنی دانست میں جس طرح آئین، پارلیمنٹ، جمہوریت کی عزت بچا رے ہیں۔۔۔تو کیا عزت بچ گئی؟؟؟؟؟؟
 

Res1Pect

Minister (2k+ posts)
Rauf Klasra is just acting as an analyst. He is not taking side of Government. Please try to understand.
www.insaftv.pk
Just listen to him, he's saying the offers of Ch. Nisar were quite pregmatic and IK should accept parliament's guarantee in the investigation of rigging. Secondly, he's saying that the Judiciary, in general, the Supreme Court, in specific, is totally neutral and it's a misconception that these are sharif courts.

On the other hand, Arshad Sharif is making realistic analysis of the govt and Judiciary. Klasra has become quite upset on Arashad Sharif confronting his point of view.
 

kkkkk

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: تو کیا عزت بچ گئی؟؟؟

Very well portrayed. May God rid us with this fake democracy of corrupt Zardari and Nazwaz, including their looter parties.
 

Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

اپ لوگ رؤف کلاسرا صاحب کو ایسے پینٹ کر رہے ھو جیسے وہ پاکستان میں اتھارٹی ہیں .
بھائی لوگو، غور سے انکی بات سنیں
وہ تو یہ بھی که رہیں ھیں کے شہباز شریف کی مورال اتھارٹی ختم ھو گئی ھے
تو کیا واقی ختم ھو گئی ھے
عدالت نے انکے خلاف فیصلہ دے دیا ھے
شہباز شریف نے خود میڈیا پر ا کر کھا تھا کے وہ الزام ثابت ہونے پر استعفیٰ دے دیں گے
کیا دے دیا ؟



عمران خان صاحب یہی تو بار بار کرہ رہیں ہیں کے انلوگوں پر عتبار نہیں کیا جس سکتا

رؤف کلاسرا صاحب، اگر اعتبار کروانا چاھتے ھو تو پہلے

شہباز شریف کا استعفیٰ لے کر دیکھائیں ، جہاں بات ثابت ھو چکی ھے
جہاں پاکستانی قانون پر عمل درآمد نہیں ہوتا ، عتبار تو دور کی بات ھے

 

Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
آج رائیونڈ میں چودھری نثار کو میاں برادران کی جانب سے شدید تنقید کا نشانہ بنایا گیا


مسلم لیگ ن میں توڑ پھوڑ شروع ہو گئی ہے - تین وفاقی وزرا اور ١٥ ممبر پارلیمنٹ نے لوگوں سے رابطے شروع کر دیے ہیں - مبشر لقمان

*****

عمران خان نے کہا ہے کہ دھاندلی کی تحقیقات کیلئے نواز شریف پر اعتماد نہیں کرسکتے ،، اسلام آباد سے دھرنا ختم کر دیا تو دباؤ ختم ہو جائے گا اور وزیر اعظم تحقیقات کو متاثر کرنے کیلئے سب کچھ کریں گے

*****

برا غضب کیا جو تیرے وعدہ پر عتبار کیا
جس بندے کی اپنے پارٹی میں یہ عزت ھو، اپ اسکو کس طرح که رہیں کے اسکی بات پر عتبار کریں ؟

اپ لوگ کیوں نہیں ایک سیاست داں اور کوممنتٹور میں فرق سمجھتے ؟
رؤف کلاسرا صاحب کا مہارت اپنے کالم لکھنے میں ھے ، سیاست کرنے میں نہی
 

Galaxy

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Every major change need Blood.Time has come for pakistanis to give blood to this sick pakitan.Otherwise the patient is bound to die.
 

Resonant

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: تو کیا عزت بچ گئی؟؟؟

I think, there is only one way army can intervene, and that is both parties will march towards parliament (only march, nothing else), and police will refuse to stop them by force....and on the pretext of the writ of government being compromised, army will step forward and remove the sharifs from their throne....happy endings.
 
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Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
PML N, PPP parliamentarians a large scale have corruption allegations and have rigged elections how can they be trusted. How can NS be trusted when he himself blantly lied in parliament. ALL status Quo parties want is for PTI to back down, if they do that with present system in tact and NS in power it is going to be over for PTI......

This is the end game no more long marches or Azadi marches, if we slip now status quo will become more powerful.
 

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