PTI's party funding case - ECP notifies Imran Khan to give details of foreign funding

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In a major move towards holding the PTI accountable, the Election Commission of Pakistan today ordered PTI to produce all the financial instruments sought by the petitioner (ASB) since November last year without fail and much before the next hearing set for January 16, 2017 failing which all legal inferences would be drawn.

The documents ordered to be submitted include; registration and transfer of funds documents of 2 Offshore Limited Liability Companies or PTI USA LLCs 5975 and 6160 registered under the signatures of Imran Khan in the USA to collect over $ 3.0 million illegal foreign funds.

The ECP Order for production of documents also include bank statements of PTI Accounts not disclosed to the ECP in their annual audit reports and identified by the petitioner (ASB);
Todays ECP Order also seeks bank statements of accounts held by PTI employees which were used as a cover to receive illegal foreign funding to the tune of Crores of Rupees. Money was transferred to these accounts through hundi and eventually siphoned off without any record.

The ECP also ordered PTI to produce evidence regarding the Lloyds Bank Account allegedly used to collect donations internationally to fund the November 2, 2016 lockdown of Islamabad. The account has not been disclosed in the PTI Audit Reports submitted to the ECP.

The Chief Election Commissioner held PTI responsible for delays in proceeding with the case. He said PTI is solely responsible for the undue and unwarranted delays which are not helping PTI but is hurting it. Do you realize this he taunted the PTI lawyer.

The CEC stated that he had been soft with PTI allowing delays to scrutiny of PTI accounts despite no written Stay Order of the Islamabad High Court. He said the ECP lawyer was never authorized to give any commitment to the IHC to suspend scrutiny of PTI accounts.

The Chief Election Commissioner also disclosed that the ECP had recently initiated scrutiny of accounts of all major political parties under a separate Political Funding Section recently formed to scrutinize party accounts. (A major achievement of the foreign funding case that must have acted as a catalyst to initiate institutionalized scrutiny of party accounts).

Another presiding Judge taunted the PTI lawyer with the comment so we should also suspend scrutiny of other parties audit reports also as PTI had demanded suspension of PTI accounts scrutiny in the IHC. Hinting at PTI double standards, the Judge remarked that PTI should be consistent in its stance, in one case with similar matter it claims ECP jurisdiction while in another case it questions ECP jurisdiction.

Patience always pays and truth will eventually be smoked out of the PTI holes. Todays proceedings are a major step in that direction.

Next surprise move; the Supreme Court of Pakistan. Details later.



 
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Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
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ROTFL.

PMLN is assuming PTI to be like PPP, and believe that PTI would back off from Panama if enough 'pressure' is applied to it. Well here are a few facts.

PTIs fundraising, both national and international, is clean, and has been routinely audited by independent auditors. This malicious campaign against PTI by the ECP is based on dubious information PMLN has received from dubious sources. PTI may take long to clarify everything, considering that PTI gets donations from all over the world, but fact remains that PTI will be able to show the trail.

Its funny that whenever the flame burns a bit brighter on Sharif's behind, CEC or NAB or FIA comes out with some tidbit regarding PTI. Losers.
 

Whaat

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

ROTFL.

PMLN is assuming PTI to be like PPP, and believe that PTI would back off from Panama if enough 'pressure' is applied to it. Well here are a few facts.

PTIs fundraising, both national and international, is clean, and has been routinely audited by independent auditors. This malicious campaign against PTI by the ECP is based on dubious information PMLN has received from dubious sources. PTI may take long to clarify everything, considering that PTI gets donations from all over the world, but fact remains that PTI will be able to show the trail.

Its funny that whenever the flame burns a bit brighter on Sharif's behind, CEC or NAB or FIA comes out with some tidbit regarding PTI. Losers.

Jo Patwari naye naye bharti hote hain aun ki hosla afzai ke liyeee kuch too daar jaya karain... :)
 

asadrehman

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

ROTFL.

PMLN is assuming PTI to be like PPP, and believe that PTI would back off from Panama if enough 'pressure' is applied to it. Well here are a few facts.

PTIs fundraising, both national and international, is clean, and has been routinely audited by independent auditors. This malicious campaign against PTI by the ECP is based on dubious information PMLN has received from dubious sources. PTI may take long to clarify everything, considering that PTI gets donations from all over the world, but fact remains that PTI will be able to show the trail.

Its funny that whenever the flame burns a bit brighter on Sharif's behind, CEC or NAB or FIA comes out with some tidbit regarding PTI. Losers.
Well said. If they were that much clean, they should have provides the trail by now, but still they are asking their qatri friends to rescue them. What a shameless these loosers are.
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

ROTFL.

PMLN is assuming PTI to be like PPP, and believe that PTI would back off from Panama if enough 'pressure' is applied to it. Well here are a few facts.

PTIs fundraising, both national and international, is clean, and has been routinely audited by independent auditors. This malicious campaign against PTI by the ECP is based on dubious information PMLN has received from dubious sources. PTI may take long to clarify everything, considering that PTI gets donations from all over the world, but fact remains that PTI will be able to show the trail.

Its funny that whenever the flame burns a bit brighter on Sharif's behind, CEC or NAB or FIA comes out with some tidbit regarding PTI. Losers.

This case is pending way before the Panama leaks unearthed.
 

Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

This case is pending way before the Panama leaks unearthed.

Yes, it was initiated at the time of another Panama leak, electoral rigging.
But the fun part is that activity in this case occurs only when the wick burns faster.
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

Well said. If they were that much clean, they should have provides the trail by now, but still they are asking their qatri friends to rescue them. What a shameless these loosers are.

You are absolutely spot on, if they were so clean why they are not providing details, after all the matter is lingering for more than two years. Why they are hiding behind stay orders?? Why they are challenging the jurisdiction of courts??
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

Yes, it was initiated at the time of another Panama leak, electoral rigging.
But the fun part is that activity in this case occurs only when the wick burns faster.

Shouldn't PTI answer the question??
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

i gave money for the Islamabad lockdown and i have the receipt because the PTI sent me a receipt, the Sharifs took billions abroad and apparently the only evidence is that some Qatari prince heard something from his father and thats about it.
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

i gave money for the Islamabad lockdown and i have the receipt because the PTI sent me a receipt, the Sharifs took billions abroad and apparently the only evidence is that some Qatari prince heard something from his father and thats about it.

The questions are PTI amassed millions$$ from foreigners to destabilize Pakistan by overthrowing its democratically elected government, 1) Who were the donors?? 2) Why PTI failed to mention this amount in the annual accounts it submitted in EC??
 

Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

Shouldn't PTI answer the question??
Arent they?


A large chunk of PTIs donations comes from overseas donors, so I can understand why some things may take time. However, considering the fact that publicly available and officially audited reports are already in posession of the CEC, one wonders why they are so keen on being petty.


PTI is well known for crowd funding, as is the case in all western democracies, so whether it takes them a short or long time, they surely have money trail. Name one other party in Pakistan that crowd funds its politics.


I have never seen PMLN, PPP or JUI etc raising funds for their political campaigns. That leads one to wonder. Where does all the millions and billions for elections, jalsas, campaigns, ads etc come from? Have you ever wondered yourself how PMLN funds its elections?
 

Sher ka shikari

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

If only PTI took bribes from ticket holders, looted money through corruption and used that same money for winning elections, this wouldn't be an issue.
 

Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

The questions are PTI amassed millions$$ from foreigners to destabilize Pakistan by overthrowing its democratically elected government, 1) Who were the donors?? 2) Why PTI failed to mention this amount in the annual accounts it submitted in EC??

The first assertion is rubbish, and is almost as if written by a 6 year old. Im amazed CEC allowed those wordings.


As far as donors are concerned, PMLN is stupidly trying to imply that non Pakistanis donated. They are basically taking a book out of Fazlur Rehman's book.


PTI did not mention it, because dharna funds were not collected under PTI head. They were not meant for operational expenses of the political party.


In any case, I dont expect CEC, NAB, FIA or any other institution to function independently, so long as Sharif is in power.
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

Arent they?


A large chunk of PTIs donations comes from overseas donors, so I can understand why some things may take time. However, considering the fact that publicly available and officially audited reports are already in posession of the CEC, one wonders why they are so keen on being petty.


PTI is well known for crowd funding, as is the case in all western democracies, so whether it takes them a short or long time, they surely have money trail. Name one other party in Pakistan that crowd funds its politics.


I have never seen PMLN, PPP or JUI etc raising funds for their political campaigns. That leads one to wonder. Where does all the millions and billions for elections, jalsas, campaigns, ads etc come from? Have you ever wondered yourself how PMLN funds its elections?

Why PTI failed to mention this amount of millions$$ in the annual accounts it submitted in EC??
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

The first assertion is rubbish, and is almost as if written by a 6 year old. Im amazed CEC allowed those wordings.


As far as donors are concerned, PMLN is stupidly trying to imply that non Pakistanis donated. They are basically taking a book out of Fazlur Rehman's book.


PTI did not mention it, because dharna funds were not collected under PTI head. They were not meant for operational expenses of the political party.


In any case, I dont expect CEC, NAB, FIA or any other institution to function independently, so long as Sharif is in power.

Bhai jan, these funds were collected from USA. PTI submitted list of donors and amount collected to USA authorities but unwilling to share that information with EC.
 

Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: PTI Talashi Update

Bhai jan, these funds were collected from USA. PTI submitted list of donors and amount collected to USA authorities but unwilling to share that information with EC.

I mentioned this before; political parties only need to submit report to ECP for funds that are to be used as operational expenses for the party. The donations in question were specifically asked for under a different head.


If you look at PTIs history, Imran has always specified what head he is asking donations for. If the funds are asked for dharna, anticorruption drive, or some other head, then the ECP has nothing to do with it. If the funds are for PTI's political setup/operations/funding, then that needs to be reported.
 

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