PTI sells out (to survive?)

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Tehreek-e-Insaf makes for a great lesson in how political culture and norms interact with, and effect, political practice. For an urban polity that has yearned long and hard for an alternative political option, the PTI is still some distance from providing a credible third-way – yet subtle changes in its approach towards politics suggests that it might still threaten, if not displace entrenched political interests.

Starting off as a party aimed at “bringing justice”, a much bandied but rarely defined term, it suffered from a lack of institutional structure, a reliance on the personal charm of Imran Khan, and a serious dearth of grassroots support. Most of these problems still persist, but at various points over the last two to three years, the PTI has slowly begun to undergo changes, which it hopes will keep it relevant. Unfortunately, none of these subtle, yet important changes, even remotely suggest the creation of an alternative form of political praxis. Basically, the PTI has quietly fallen in line with the rest of the bandwagon.

Picking Sides
The first of these changes was establishing a clear stance on the War on Terror and US involvement in domestic and regional affairs. In this particular case PTI took a leaf out of the Jamaat’s text book by voicing strong dissent against both “imperialist” designs in Afghanistan, and American involvement in Pakistani affairs. The PTI continues to rely on the Islam vs West narrative, so often found in the rhetorical articulations of the far-right in this country. Buying into the conspiracy theory/they-are-out-to-get-us framework, PTI has recycled the prevailing discourse, which basically adds up to a few more foot-soldiers burning the American flag in public spaces.

There can be two reasons behind adopting this particular approach towards geo-political events:

1) Imran Khan, and other influential high-ups, actually subscribe to this notion of Islam under attack.

2) They think this form of articulation holds considerable populist appeal, hence providing a chance to gain relatively cheap political support.

Sadly, what they have missed out on is that international politics does not play an active role in political decision making for the average. It’s an issue that the urban classes will surely have an opinion on but won’t affect most political loyalties. (The relative lack of electoral success by the far-right in this country is sufficient proof of this.)

Getting the message across
The second, slightly more promising shift was an attempt to actively engage with students and the urban working class. Recruitment drives conducted around major urban centers in Punjab (and some parts of Sindh and KP), were a way to bring the PTI agenda to a wider audience, which had otherwise been transmitted through Imran Khan’s monologues on TV talk shows.

The sponsoring of tandoors, under theSasta Tandoor scheme, showed anintent to engage with more immediate and infinitely more relevant issues of subsistence and basic needs. This particular shift highlighted a recognition on the part of the leadership that empty sloganeering against America would not lead to success. The fact that they had to realize this the hard way shows a disappointing lack of understanding of the domestic political culture.

Fielding Candidates
The third shift is solely related to how the PTI goes about its electioneering. Keeping two by-poll proceedings as our examples, the PTI has shown that it has finally learnt that votes are tied to both personalities, and social relations, largely defined by caste affiliations.

Two by-polls in Lahore resulted in second place finishes for PTI. Both times Jamaat candidates were edged out, while Muslim Leaguers finished at a comfortable first. Accusations of rigging aside, the fact that PTI managed to come out of these elections with its reputation slightly enhanced needs to be understood in terms of the candidates fielded on both occasions.

In the first instance (NA 123), PTI fielded Hamid Meraj Din as their guy against Pervez Malik of the PML-N and veteran Jamaatiya, Hafiz Salman Butt. Hamid Meraj Din is the son of a prominent Arain politician, Mian Meraj Din, who also happens to own Crown Cinema. The reliance on a strong caste-affliated politician, hailing from a prominent Lahori family shows that PTI has learnt the rough mechanics of urban patronage.

The PP-160candidate, Zaheer Abbas Khokar is a more clear-cut case of relying on entrenched political personalities. As a member of the dominant Khokar clan of the fringe-Lahore (Raiwind, Thokar) region, the former PPP MNA was drafted because of the relationship he and his family have historically had with the electorate.

All three changes reflect the political learning curve that the PTI is currently experiencing. While in the medium to long run, this transformation of sorts might bring political gains, the larger agenda of providing an alternative option, under which the party was created, looks to have been shelved.

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woofer

Banned
Karkonoon koi esi bat ni karna MQM ky khilaf . Zara apna hat halka rakhoo MQM per ur altaf hussain per. Hameed Gul sahib ka yahee order hy wo sala mera nokari tal kar ra hy.

Esi slay ne Altaf Hussain pe case karne ki topi pahanai thi. Aj kal apna focus Nawaz sharif per hy- Es ne meri ye halt ki hy. Kab tak logoon ko topi pahanata rahoon. Ab tu main bhi Topi baz hogia hoon.

Salay ne 10 sal ka Umat , Jisrat ur Takbeer dia tha.- Ticket ky paisy itne ni lage Jetne en teeno ki raddi London lajane per thoki hain.

Tumara Nakam leader
Imran Bhai
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)


Tehreek-e-Insaf makes for a great lesson in how political culture and norms interact with, and effect, political practice. For an urban polity that has yearned long and hard for an alternative political option, the PTI is still some distance from providing a credible third-way yet subtle changes in its approach towards politics suggests that it might still threaten, if not displace entrenched political interests.


Starting off as a party aimed at bringing justice, a much bandied but rarely defined term, it suffered from a lack of institutional structure, a reliance on the personal charm of Imran Khan, and a serious dearth of grassroots support. Most of these problems still persist, but at various points over the last two to three years, the PTI has slowly begun to undergo changes, which it hopes will keep it relevant. Unfortunately, none of these subtle, yet important changes, even remotely suggest the creation of an alternative form of political praxis. Basically, the PTI has quietly fallen in line with the rest of the bandwagon.


Picking Sides

The first of these changes was establishing a clear stance on the War on Terror and US involvement in domestic and regional affairs. In this particular case PTI took a leaf out of the Jamaats text book by voicing strong dissent against both imperialist designs in Afghanistan, and American involvement in Pakistani affairs. The PTI continues to rely on the Islam vs West narrative, so often found in the rhetorical articulations of the far-right in this country. Buying into the conspiracy theory/they-are-out-to-get-us framework, PTI has recycled the prevailing discourse, which basically adds up to a few more foot-soldiers burning the American flag in public spaces.

There can be two reasons behind adopting this particular approach towards geo-political events:


1) Imran Khan, and other influential high-ups, actually subscribe to this notion of Islam under attack.


2) They think this form of articulation holds considerable populist appeal, hence providing a chance to gain relatively cheap political support.


Sadly, what they have missed out on is that international politics does not play an active role in political decision making for the average. Its an issue that the urban classes will surely have an opinion on but wont affect most political loyalties. (The relative lack of electoral success by the far-right in this country is sufficient proof of this.)


Getting the message across

The second, slightly more promising shift was an attempt to actively engage with students and the urban working class. Recruitment drives conducted around major urban centers in Punjab (and some parts of Sindh and KP), were a way to bring the PTI agenda to a wider audience, which had otherwise been transmitted through Imran Khans monologues on TV talk shows.

The sponsoring of tandoors, under theSasta Tandoor scheme, showed anintent to engage with more immediate and infinitely more relevant issues of subsistence and basic needs. This particular shift highlighted a recognition on the part of the leadership that empty sloganeering against America would not lead to success. The fact that they had to realize this the hard way shows a disappointing lack of understanding of the domestic political culture.


Fielding Candidates

The third shift is solely related to how the PTI goes about its electioneering. Keeping two by-poll proceedings as our examples, the PTI has shown that it has finally learnt that votes are tied to both personalities, and social relations, largely defined by caste affiliations.

Two by-polls in Lahore resulted in second place finishes for PTI. Both times Jamaat candidates were edged out, while Muslim Leaguers finished at a comfortable first. Accusations of rigging aside, the fact that PTI managed to come out of these elections with its reputation slightly enhanced needs to be understood in terms of the candidates fielded on both occasions.


In the first instance (NA 123), PTI fielded Hamid Meraj Din as their guy against Pervez Malik of the PML-N and veteran Jamaatiya, Hafiz Salman Butt. Hamid Meraj Din is the son of a prominent Arain politician, Mian Meraj Din, who also happens to own Crown Cinema. The reliance on a strong caste-affliated politician, hailing from a prominent Lahori family shows that PTI has learnt the rough mechanics of urban patronage.


The PP-160candidate, Zaheer Abbas Khokar is a more clear-cut case of relying on entrenched political personalities. As a member of the dominant Khokar clan of the fringe-Lahore (Raiwind, Thokar) region, the former PPP MNA was drafted because of the relationship he and his family have historically had with the electorate.

All three changes reflect the political learning curve that the PTI is currently experiencing. While in the medium to long run, this transformation of sorts might bring political gains, the larger agenda of providing an alternative option, under which the party was created, looks to have been shelved.
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PTI Candidate in PP-160 Bi Election

Zaheer Abbas Khokar

2002 Election

NA-128


He won from PPP platform , secured
31,175 Votes

2008 Election


NA-128

He changed Party to PML-Q from PPP

and did not participated in election in favor of PML-Q candidate


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PTI Party Position in PP-160

PTI secured
2,199 in 2002 election from this constituency
*************************************************************

PML-N Party Position in PP 160

Won this seat in 2002 and secured 18,374 Votes


Won this seat in 2008 and secured 42,056 Votes


Anchor Person asked PTI candidate about his past and his lota nature ,

asked whether he would change his party in future or this time he would stick to PTI ater changing PPP than PPP Patriot and PML-Q in last 8 years. :-)


PPP------>PPP(patriot)---->PML-Q---->PTI


His answer was , well ,
"TIME WILL TELL"


 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Jury now getting Chutta from PLMn as well.

میں آپ کی روزی روٹی پر لات مارنے کا سوچ بھی نہیں سکتا

آپ بلکل فکر نہیں کریں

صرف پوسٹ کو پڑھنےکی کوشش کریں- اور پی ٹی آئی کی بدلتی پا لیسی سمجھیں- جو کے پیپلز پارٹی اور مسلم لیگ کے راستے پر چل رہی ہے-
ایک کارکن بھی پی ٹی آئی کا اس قابل نہیں تھا- جس کو ٹکٹ دیا جاتا- کوئی ڈاکٹر ، انجینئر ، ایم بی اے نہیں تھا - ہارجاتے مگر کارکن کا مورال تو بلند رہتا

کیا فرق ہوا دوسری جماعت میں اور پی ٹی آئی میں ؟
اس کو کہتے ہیں ہائی جیک پارٹی

 
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PTI Candidate in PP-160 Bi Election

Zaheer Abbas Khokar

2002 Election

NA-128


He won from PPP platform , secured
31,175 Votes

2008 Election


NA-128

He changed Party to PML-Q from PPP

and did not participated in election in favor of PML-Q candidate


***************************************************************************

PTI Party Position in PP-160

PTI secured
2,199 in 2002 election from this constituency
*************************************************************

PML-N Party Position in PP 160

Won this seat in 2002 and secured 18,374 Votes


Won this seat in 2008 and secured 42,056 Votes


Anchor Person asked PTI candidate about his past and his lota nature ,

asked whether he would change his party in future or this time he would stick to PTI ater changing PPP than PPP Patriot and PML-Q in last 8 years. :-)


PPP------>PPP(patriot)---->PML-Q---->PTI


His answer was , well ,
"TIME WILL TELL"





Very True Research

But, PTI and Imran Khan can change the corrupted political way of Pakistan.
I think, Imran Khan shouldn't give the Ticket to Mr. Zaheer Abbas Khokhar. because, he has already changed many parties. Imran Khan should give Ticket any other Lower Worker of Party.
In this regards I appreciate to MQM. They always bring front their Lower Workers.

Anyways,

I wish PTI & Imran Khan handle the Pakistan's Management.
 
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GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
میں آپ کی روزی روٹی پر لات مارنے کا سوچ بھی نہیں سکتا


آپ بلکل فکر نہیں کریں
او ہو برا مان گیے
بھتہ اور چھٹا تو اب تم لوگوں کے خون میں شامل ہو گیا ہے
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
او ہو برا مان گیے
بھتہ اور چھٹا تو اب تم لوگوں کے خون میں شامل ہو گیا ہے
کیا آپ نے کبھی اپنا خون مجھے عطیے میں دیا تھا ؟
 

Ammad Hafeez

Minister (2k+ posts)

میں آپ کی روزی روٹی پر لات مارنے کا سوچ بھی نہیں سکتا

آپ بلکل فکر نہیں کریں

صرف پوسٹ کو پڑھنےکی کوشش کریں- اور پی ٹی آئی کی بدلتی پا لیسی سمجھیں- جو کے پیپلز پارٹی اور مسلم لیگ کے راستے پر چل رہی ہے-
ایک کارکن بھی پی ٹی آئی کا اس قابل نہیں تھا- جس کو ٹکٹ دیا جاتا- کوئی ڈاکٹر ، انجینئر ، ایم بی اے نہیں تھا - ہارجاتے مگر کارکن کا مورال تو بلند رہتا

کیا فرق ہوا دوسری جماعت میں اور پی ٹی آئی میں ؟
اس کو کہتے ہیں ہائی جیک پارٹی


Hahaha Well answered, Khaatey tum ho beta aur naam humara laga rahe ho GEO G barey hojao :D
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Very True Research

But, PTI and Imran Khan can change the corrupted political way of Pakistan.
I think, Imran Khan shouldn't give the Ticket to Mr. Zaheer Abbas Khokhar. because, he has already changed many parties. Imran Khan should give Ticket any other Lower Worker of Party.
In this regards I appreciate to MQM. They always bring front their Lower Workers.

Anyways,

I wish PTI & Imran Khan handle the Pakistan's Management.
How?
Just doing by lip service nothing is going to change.
Even if PTI won here, nothing would change. PTI had noting to loose here.
Instead of giving ticket to Zaheer Abbas Khokhar, PTI should have given to an ordinary worker of this constituency.
 
How?
Just doing by lip service nothing is going to change.
Even if PTI won here, nothing would change. PTI had noting to loose here.
Instead of giving ticket to Zaheer Abbas Khokhar, PTI should have given to an ordinary worker of this constituency.

First,
Pakistani People should give the chance to PTI when PTI will elect in whole Pakistan they can do something good for us.

Second,
I am agree with your point of view that, PTI should give the Ticket to an ordinary worker of it's Party.

Third,
Here, I am just for Exposing the Truth, I don't belongs to any Political Party but, Support all Parties who done best for Pakistan and It's People.

Fourth,
I found only PTI & MQM are the Best in my research. I also wish PTI & MQM will change together the corrupted political way of Pakistan.

Thanks
 
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Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
خداناخواستہ
خون انسانوں کو دیا جاتا ہے

لیکن خون بھی انسان کا ہی ہونا چاہیۓ
اب آپ اپنے انسان ہونے کا دعوا نہیں کردیجئے گا

 

alihbkable

MPA (400+ posts)
Well done PTI..........Nawaz is losing ground n we are gaining it.........abhe Punjab se start le lia hai...........phir baqi bandron ko b maza chakhaate hen..........chund roz or meri jaan, faqat chund he roz
 

alihbkable

MPA (400+ posts)
I am shocked...........here an MQM supporter is telling otherz not 2 claim ov being "insaan"..........itz really true..........ye insaanon ko bher bakrian he smjhte hen...........issi liye to kaat kaat kr phenkte hen, or GEO G ko b insan ni smjh skte............it is evident 2 all............a supporter ov a "TERRORIST ORGANIZATION" naming MQM is speaking here........
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am shocked...........here an MQM supporter is telling otherz not 2 claim ov being "insaan"..........itz really true..........ye insaanon ko bher bakrian he smjhte hen...........issi liye to kaat kaat kr phenkte hen, or GEO G ko b insan ni smjh skte............it is evident 2 all............a supporter ov a "TERRORIST ORGANIZATION" naming MQM is speaking here........
When ever hatters pay back in the same coin they shocked.
They are still living in mid 90s.
 

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