PTI, N in catch-22 position over Hazara province

Liberal.Punjabi

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PTI, N in catch-22 position over Hazara province
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PESHAWAR: The resolution moved by three Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf lawmakers in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly about the creation of Hazara province has landed their ruling party in the province as well as Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz in a catch-22 situation.


Top PTI and PML-N leaders have put their heads together on how to get out of the situation as before the May 11 general elections, the two parties had made firm commitments with their voters in Hazara division to give them separate province.


The two parties had won 16 provincial assembly seats from Hazara division particularly Haripur, Abbottabad and Mansehra districts.


Sources said Chief Minister Pervez Khattak and opposition leader Sardar Mehtab Ahmad Khan had discussed prose and cons of the resolution during one-on-one meeting held at the latters chambers in the assembly secretariat on Thursday evening.


An MPA of PML-N from Hazara confirmed that the two leaders discussed the resolution, but was skeptical about the fate of the resolution, which is likely to be tabled during the ongoing session of the assembly.


Three MPAs of PTI from Abbottabad, including Mushtaq Ahmad Ghani, Qalandar Khan Lodhi and Sardar Mohammad Idrees, had submitted the resolution without taking the coalition partners of the ruling party, including Jamaat-i-Islami, Qaumi Watan Party and Awami Jamhoori Ittehad Pakistan, on board.
QWP and JI have concerns over the resolution.


QWP spokesman Tariq Khan termed the move political gimmick and said it was illogical to create separate province for only two and a half districts.
JI wants a national commission to make a plan for creation of new provinces in the country.


Our party is in favour of new federating units but it should not be carved out on ethnic or linguistic grounds, said JI spokesman Israrullah advocate.


The move has also confused members of the ruling party in Peshawar, where PTI swept the May 11 elections, oppose causing divisions within the province on linguistic grounds.


One lawmaker of PTI said majority of the MPAs from Peshawar valley might not support the resolution and its repercussion would be very serious for the party in the Pakhtun-populated areas of the province.


The CM might have agreed with the MPAs on tabling resolution in the assembly, but there is very clear division within the party on the issue, he said, adding that if the party supported such resolution, then the people from Malakand and Southern districts could also make the same demands.


Then what! he asked.


In background interviews, members of the treasury and opposition benches believe that resolution had been submitted to create problems for Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in Punjab province, where different political groups have been demanding Bahawalpur, South Punjab and Seraiki provinces.


When contacted, Awami National Party parliamentary leader Sardar Hussain Babak said creation of new federating unit was the constitutional right of the people of the region, but the motive behind resolution for Hazara province was to create trouble for the prime minister.


He said MPAs from Hazara might not garner support within the party to pass the resolution.


PML-N, which had won 10 provincial assembly seats from Hazara division in general elections, is at the crossroads in the prevailing situation.


The party neither opposes nor supports the resolution if it is tabled in the assembly.


PML-N is in double jeopardy. If it supports Hazara province, then other parties can demand Seraiki and Southern Punjab provinces, and if it opposes, then it can lose support in Hazara region, said Zareen Gul, an MPA of Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl from Torghar district, which is also part of Hazara division.


One legislator of PML-N from Mansehra said leaders of PML-N and PTI were in contact to find out a viable solution of the issue.


He said both parties wanted to have a diluted form a resolution instead of demanding Hazara province.


The legislator said PML-N could not back out from its commitment and would have to support Hazara province.


It can be a political disaster for PML-N if it opposes the resolution, he said, adding that rival political parties, including Muttahida Qaumi Movement, would exploit the situation after the passage of the resolution.


Creation of a separate province is a genuine demand of the people of Hazara, but division of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa should not be on ethnic or linguistic grounds, he said.
 

iltaf

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I was just wondering, will Hazara be able to survive if made a province. Can anyone from Hazara area elaborate the need for a seperate province. I am neither against it nor for it.
 

the.paki

Senator (1k+ posts)
i was just wondering, will hazara be able to survive if made a province. Can anyone from hazara area elaborate the need for a seperate province. I am neither against it nor for it.

hazara will be the most easy to run province.
People are educated
no feudrals, no chaudaris
 

iltaf

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I agree with that. But how will hazara meet its expenses or it will only run on the money provided by federal govt ?
 

Aladdin

Senator (1k+ posts)
I was just wondering, will Hazara be able to survive if made a province. Can anyone from Hazara area elaborate the need for a seperate province. I am neither against it nor for it.

It will survive (in sha Allah)...it has tourism, dams, minerals.

There is no doubt that we need new provinces in country. I am giving example of hazara. People from naran , kaghan , batgram travel all the way to peshawar if they have some work at provisional departments. They travel 7 to 8 hours one way & vice versa. And you know that how our govt depts work. Secondly there is hardly any development in hazara in last 6 to 8 years. They earn money from hazara in the form royalty but hardly spend here.

As pti has provisional gov now.I hope they will do justice with hazara.

However I am not in favor of province at this moment.when pti will come in center (in sha Allah) then we will make new provinces in whole country.
 

chargootay

MPA (400+ posts)
Although I fully support creation of new provinces in KPK and in the rest of the country but I dont think this is the right time.
We should focus on priorities instead of getting into issues where we could get split decissions inside and outside the party.

Yes, I am sure Hazara can support herself keeping in view the tourism, trade with china, and natural minerals etc along with power generation capacity of its own.

I think the three PTI lawmakers should have waited for the government to get its feet strong first...anyway, let's see how it goes from here on
 
i am from Hazara.... it can be run easily but problem for PTI is Hazara has always been a strong hold of PML-N Hazara is also known has 2nd Lahore of PML-N.... PTI has won seats this time from hazara but these are seats of electable same goes for PML-N.... so there is electable politics.....

The only thing which PTI can do is to go for local elections it will create low level organization in hazara which will create more votes and people here usually go for ruling party So the fight will be between PTI and PML-N.... But if PTI will do morale politics it will get hard beating from PML-N because morale politics is only good for cities....
 

chargootay

MPA (400+ posts)
I think the prejudice was shown by Pashtuns (ANP) towards them.
And that is when they (hazara walay) started making hue and cry

Anyway, what's done is done.
We should move on from here with focussing more on the real issues.

Provinces shouldnt be divided on ethnicity or linguist grounds as we are already divided that way

Why is Hazara people so aganst pashtuns that they cannot tolerate this new name.
 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Although I fully support creation of new provinces in KPK and in the rest of the country but I dont think this is the right time.
We should focus on priorities instead of getting into issues where we could get split decissions inside and outside the party.

Yes, I am sure Hazara can support herself keeping in view the tourism, trade with china, and natural minerals etc along with power generation capacity of its own.

I think the three PTI lawmakers should have waited for the government to get its feet strong first...anyway, let's see how it goes from here on

The onus is on federal GOVT of what to do. the resolution will go to NA where PMLn has a majority and the ball will again go into PMLN court. If they give in to the demand than other provinces voice will surface so in reality catch 22 will be for PMLn not PTI
 

ajeeba

MPA (400+ posts)
I think the prejudice was shown by Pashtuns (ANP) towards them.
And that is when they (hazara walay) started making hue and cry

Anyway, what's done is done.
We should move on from here with focussing more on the real issues.

Provinces shouldnt be divided on ethnicity or linguist grounds as we are already divided that way
i do not agree that the ANP started it, they always had this prejudice against pashtuns, and don't consider themselves to be part of pashtuns, but when is trouble, even pashtuns of hazaras are feelig ashamed of their ethnicity.I do not understand this, but anyway what are they gonna achieve by creating a new province?, nothing.
 

jason

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
it seems that the three Independent MPAs are in for creating trouble because they were not given ministerships.
 

chargootay

MPA (400+ posts)
put this question to hazaraywaal and their reply would be different :)

lets not get into this discussion.. set our priorities!! simple si baat hai .. kyu nai samajh ati kisi ko ?


i do not agree that the ANP started it, they always had this prejudice against pashtuns, and don't consider themselves to be part of pashtuns, but when is trouble, even pashtuns of hazaras are feelig ashamed of their ethnicity.I do not understand this, but anyway what are they gonna achieve by creating a new province?, nothing.
 

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