PPP and MQM embark on second stage strategy for soft coup as PTI takes a backseat plus Babar Awans

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
The voice of estranged PPP senator Babar Was almost as nervous as that of Nawaz Sharif few days back . On a TV channel his talk gave a little bit insight to the thinking of soft coup group especially PPP.

Sum total of oblique talk seems that to please agencies and overseas funders of soft coup the PPP and MQM who had so far been stabbing PMLN from back will try to come in open to oppose Nawaz and try to put life into Minus one formula .

Both PPP and MQM parties's leaders have called for their MNAs etc to gauge if they are in a position to take the risk of bluff of resigning from assembly, if so the grand idea is that with PPP,MQM,PTI resigning in sight the army incorporated potohar group of PMLN might be able to convince PMLN leadership to change CM Punjab or PMLN members might be convinced to consider alternative for PM seat .


PTI in its initial revolutionary effort could not take the risk of being seen with Zardari for notoriety reason of later despite PPP and MQM being PTI coonspirator and similar open alliance with MQM was imprudent as MQM was not popular either which could drag down PTI , but this seemingly PTI alone hitting Nawaz strategy has failed .


An interesting aspect of Babar Awans statement was his opposition to SC Nasir ul Mulk trying to mediate so as to protect Imran and agencies from formal charges of treason under section 6. This means the state of soft coup co conspirators as PPP and MQM remains thin as they do not want SC to arrange forgiveness of Imran or agency men under guise of reconciliation .

This in turn means that PPP wants agencies to be unable to retreat back and move forward and overthrow the Nawaz regime .They are also not interested in giving Imran any protection from charges related to treasonous behaviour which many of PTI older lot of leaders would not like to be part of..

As TUQ has no stakes locally he is trying to criticise PPP and goad it into alliance of an open type .While MQM which is sure to get all seats back is prepared to resign or at least make it look so . Babar tried to give impression that MQM resignation would be a game changer and put life into soft coup .


This will not happen or have no effect , Babar Awan despite being a very clever politician has always underestimated Nawaz , and later's popularity in certain places and Babar Awan's last effort of soft coup during Sajjad Ali Shah episode also failed . Babar did not put funds or serious ground work in two times he tried for NA seat . He did not understand that PPP is one family party . He continues to waste himself in useless pursuits .
 
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Asad Khan

MPA (400+ posts)
No offence but Shaikh Saab your commentary is mind bogglingly confusing at best and outright fiction at worst. In a nutshell, mind if you tell us what exactly are you saying? I honestly want to know the crux of your arguement, so please enlighten us in a more direct simpler way if possible. Like I said, please don't mind I am just trying to make sense of it.
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
No offence but Shaikh Saab your commentary is mind bogglingly confusing at best and outright fiction at worst. In a nutshell, mind if you tell us what exactly are you saying? I honestly want to know the crux of your arguement, so please enlighten us in a more direct simpler way if possible. Like I said, please don't mind I am just trying to make sense of it.
PPP and MQM were double gamers from the beginning , now as PTI direct assault has failed agencies are using stand by strategy , this is to scare PMLN members that enmasse PTI,MQM ,PPP resignation is on cards so to save assembly PMLN MNA choose either a new PM like Nisar of potohar power group close to army or give up Punjab CM ship to potohar power group . PPP ,MQM do not want FIRS against PTI or shehbaz or expected against agencies heads resolved by SC so as to catapult agencies towards more direct action on one hand and criminalise PTI on another .
 

Asad Khan

MPA (400+ posts)
Tu ap ka matlab he Aitizaz Khursheed Shah or MQM wale ne jo Kal Hukumat ke Haq me takreerein ke thee wo sirf Hukumat ko mammmu banane k liye ke thee kia ? Agar ye baat he tu phir tu is hukumaat kho khud he chalee jana chahye jo apne parliament walee isse mamuu bana rahe he bahir walo se kia gillaaa kiun shaikh saaab ?
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Sheikh Sahib, since when Babar bacame mouthpiece for PPP

We can predict your next two threads following your progression / regreassion

Next One:
60 Noon MNA revolt against party leadership

Last One:
Shahbaz Sharif decides to take control form elder brother..
 

hunter123

MPA (400+ posts)
Tu ap ka matlab he Aitizaz Khursheed Shah or MQM wale ne jo Kal Hukumat ke Haq me takreerein ke thee wo sirf Hukumat ko mammmu banane k liye ke thee kia ? Agar ye baat he tu phir tu is hukumaat kho khud he chalee jana chahye jo apne parliament walee isse mamuu bana rahe he bahir walo se kia gillaaa kiun shaikh saaab ?

بھائی صاب ان کا کوئی مطلب نہیں ہے. پاکستان میں ایک ہی آدمی ہے جس کے بارے میں ثابت ہوا کے اس نے ایجنسی سے پیسے لئے وہ ہے نواز شریف. ان لوگوں کو شرم حیاء ہے نہیں. ہر ایک پہ وہی الزام لگاتے پھرتے ہیں. جاوید ہاشمی تو ٢ گھنٹے بعد ہی مکر گیا لیکن یہ اپنا پیپا بجانے سے باز نہیں آتے. ایسی ایسی چولیں مارتے ہیں کے انسان حیران رہ جائے
 

Kamboz

Minister (2k+ posts)
MQM can say one thing today and turn around tomorrow, everyone knows that. I'm wondering how will PPP come up with the reason to resign. SO far they have not shown any signs. Unless some new explosive news comes to light , the way javed hashmi shocked everyone.
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Tu ap ka matlab he Aitizaz Khursheed Shah or MQM wale ne jo Kal Hukumat ke Haq me takreerein ke thee wo sirf Hukumat ko mammmu banane k liye ke thee kia ? Agar ye baat he tu phir tu is hukumaat kho khud he chalee jana chahye jo apne parliament walee isse mamuu bana rahe he bahir walo se kia gillaaa kiun shaikh saaab ?
PPP does not want re election now ,it can only benefit from it if Nawaz and Imran both are home or tied , it cannot risk national recount of votes as this puts PPP in third position as Nawaz will let PTI some more seats . So PPP is double gaming . Nawaz knows that all PPP, resignation threats will be therefore false , MQM resignation cannot force national reflection unless PTI also resigns , PTI KPK knows that next time KPK battle is tough ,sherpao ,ANP , JUI ,PMLN ,independents along with possibly JI can defeat PTI in KPK if they really try hard .KPK CM was seen smiling the first time today after failed effort to remove Nawaz .
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
MQM can say one thing today and turn around tomorrow, everyone knows that. I'm wondering how will PPP come up with the reason to resign. SO far they have not shown any signs. Unless some new explosive news comes to light , the way javed hashmi shocked everyone.
Zardari is not in same commanding position as Altaf is in his party .I am unsure if he can even get resignations of 70% of its members and he isnot really interested in re election but agencies can blackmail him, the agencies seem to be double pressuring PPP in sindh by contacting antippp groups to make a electoral alliance for breakthrough to scare PPP. It seems they are threatening MQM and PPP that they will support PTI in sindh unless they cooperate .
 

Not_Guilty

Minister (2k+ posts)
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shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Political moves are always oblique in a majority of cases, intended targets are masked and it requires a lifetime to understand the crooked souls of politicians , most forum members are straightforward carried away by slogans and unaware of background of people , analysis seems rubbish to them as they do not have the background information on which such analysis are made.