Power sector circular debt swells to 2013 level

naveed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Power sector circular debt swells to 2013 level

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LAHORE: The power sector circular debt has become uncontrollable, swelling again to nearly 2013 level, thanks to the poor governance shown of managers at the helm of affairs who failed to curb energy losses and inefficiencies, sources said on Tuesday.

The incumbent government, which once was lauded for clearing Rs480 billion of circular debt after coming into power in 2013, is likely to leave behind almost the same amount for the next government. The pending payments to independent power producers (IPPs) snowballed into Rs439 billion up till February 15, 2017.

The power managers failed to implement the Circular Debt Management Plan, which was prepared in 2015 for capping the outstanding amount at a fairly manageable level, sources said. Owing to persistent failure in reducing power losses and enhancing recoveries, the circular debt is bound to pile up massively ahead of the next general elections, they claimed.

The huge amount of circular debt would not only haunt the next government or the 50 or so IPPs that failed to get their dues, but also ultimately the hapless consumers who might face electricity shortage in the coming summer due to the non-payments to power plants.

The government prepared a circular debt management plan in September 2015 to reduce it from Rs314 billion (as of end June 2015) to Rs212 billion by financial year ending June 30, 2018 (FY18), while keeping within the targets of 0.4 percent of GDP for subsidies to the power sector (about Rs128 billion) and four percent fiscal deficit. It was envisaged that at the end of each month, the circular debt would be maintained below the cap of Rs314 billion. The circular debt management plan or capping mechanism includes reducing the increase of circular debt flow as well as the outstanding amount or stock.

Policy induced public sector power entity debt, including the Power Holding Company Limited (PHCL) debt was to be reduced from Rs335 billion to Rs220 billion by FY18.The government planned to increase collection from public sector power companies by five percent by FY2018 and to reduce losses by 1.7 percent by FY18 through efficiency gains, privatisation, and private sector participation. Collection from government customers were to be rationalised and subsidies were to be paid on actual basis and paid according to schedule.

However, sources claimed, all such targets proved difficult, mainly due to half-hearted efforts and bad governance.Consequently, the pending payments to IPPs reached Rs439 billion by the mid of February. The receivables of Kot Addu Power Company increased to Rs68.177 billion, the Hub Power Companys due amount went up to Rs64.194 billion, Central Power Generation Companys to Rs62.796 billion, Northern Power Generation Companys Rs56.747 billion, Wapdas outstanding amount went up to Rs23.853 billion, and Jamshoro Power Companys due amount augmented to Rs18.288 billion.

These are just a few big receivables, while many other companies are also awaiting their dues. While failing to get their dues, several power generation companies had to opt for calling of sovereign guarantee in an attempt to get their money back. Some of the IPPs were to seek intervention of the apex court after the government defaulted on sovereign guarantee.

The IPPs later agreed to withdraw cases and resolved the dispute through arbitration envisaged under the power-purchase agreements as part of a deal with the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) government for payment of outstanding dues. Unfortunately, sources said, the situation was now reaching the same level, and added that the government has to also honour its sovereign guarantee to protect the investment in the power sector.

After repeated contact, Yunus Dagha, federal secretary water and power, refused to comment on various queries sent to him about the mounting circular debt and failure of the government to curb losses of the power sector.

Source
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/189338-Power-sector-circular-debt-swells-to-2013-level
 

Talwar Gujjar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There you go, you found a befitting antidote to Rajarawl's postings. It calls for fireworks at Bani Gala to lift the spirits of les miserables.
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
تم لوگ ہوا میں چھوڑی ہوئی باتوں کو پکڑ ڈسکو ڈانس کرتے ہو تو میں تم لوگوں کے لئے اصل فیکٹس & فگرز لے کر آیا ہوں
تم لوگوں کو پتا ہونا چاہیے کہ گردشی قرضہ ڈسٹریبوشن کمپنی کی پیمنٹ نہ کرنے سے بڑھتے ہیں - اگر نہیں پتا تو تم لوگوں کی جہالت سے ہمدردی ہے - تم لوگ یہ بھی کہ رہے ہو کہ پنجاب اور مرکزی حکومت اس قرضے کے بڑھنے کی ذمہ دار ہے - اگر اصل حالت دیکھنا ہے تو نیچے والی ڈیٹیل دیکھو -

Please let me know if you want to understand some of details. I will explain.

You know that NEPRA is the regulatory authority on the power distribution which is totally independent body. NEPRA monitors all the power related affairs and has the whip (Chaabuk) to keep every on in line including Central and provincial Govts. NEPRA issued the report on the performance of Power distribution companies in terms of controlling the theft and recovering the payments. The report was issued on Feb-03/2017 which contains data for 2014-15. The loss in money recovered in 2014-15 contributed to the circular debt in 2016.
You also know that the payments recovery is the responsibility of the provincial Govts.
Look at the performance of the distribution companies published in Report of an independent Authority. You Must look at the figures of PESCO for comparison. PESCO is directly under control of KPK Govt. Also look at the performance of the companies under Punjab and central Govt. This will also tell you something about the Governance.


Recovery rates (of non-payments) Para 2.2 of the report. (highest to lowest)
1: Multan Electric Power Company (MEPCO): 102.33 %
2: Faisalabad Electric Supply Company (FESCO): 100.06%


3: Islamabad Electric Supply Company (IESCO): 99.8%
4: Lahore Electric Supply Company (LESCO): 95.88%
5: Gujranwala Electric Power Company (GEPCO): 97%
6: Karachi K-Electric: 91.22%
7: Peshawar Electric Supply Company (PESCO): 88%
8: Hyderabad Electric Supply Company (HESCO): 78.2%
9: Sukkur Electric Power Company (SEPCO): 57.81%
10: Quetta Electric Supply Company (QESCO): 32.6%
11: Tribal Areas Electricity Supply Company (TESCO): No data posted



Losses (Theft and Line Losses): Para 2.1

Islamabad Electric Supply Company (IESCO): 9.41 %
Gujranwala Electric Power Company (GEPCO): 10.72 %
Faisalabad Electric Supply Company (FESCO): 11 %
Lahore Electric Supply Company (LESCO): 14.1 %
Multan Electric Power Company (MEPCO): 16.7 %
Karachi K-Electric: 23.69 %
Quetta Electric Supply Company (QESCO): 24.4 %
Hyderabad Electric Supply Company (HESCO): 27.1 %
Peshawar Electric Supply Company (PESCO): 34.8 %
Sukkur Electric Power Company (SEPCO): 38.29 %
Tribal Areas Electricity Supply Company (TESCO): No data posted


Nepra gave targets to reduce the theft and transmission losses. Following is the order of breach in achieving the target is below
Breach of Targets given to cut losses Para 2.1


Islamabad Electric Supply Company (IESCO): -0.03 % (went above target)
Gujranwala Electric Power Company (GEPCO): 0.74 %
Faisalabad Electric Supply Company (FESCO): 1.5 %
Multan Electric Power Company (MEPCO): 1.7 %
Lahore Electric Supply Company (LESCO): 2.35 %
Hyderabad Electric Supply Company (HESCO): 27.1 %
Quetta Electric Supply Company (QESCO): 6.6 %
Karachi K-Electric: 8.69 %
Peshawar Electric Supply Company (PESCO): 8.8 %
Sukkur Electric Power Company (SEPCO): 10.79 %
Tribal Areas Electricity Supply Company (TESCO): No data posted


The link of report is given below.

Source: http://www.nepra.org.pk/Standards/PER DISCOs and KE for 2014-15.pdf



There you go, you found a befitting antidote to Rajarawl's postings. It calls for fireworks at Bani Gala to lift the spirits of les miserables.

Where is RANGEELAWAL to post some bs?

R you saying there is no circular debt?

جتھوں دا نورا کھوتا
اوتھے آن کھلوتا
 
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RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Above post was never meant to say that all is good. In fact all is bad with increasing Circular debts. But the intent was to show who is contributing most to the problem and who is contributing least. The figures show Baluchistan as worst, then Sindh and then KPK. The thefts are least in Punjab and Islamabad, and the recovery is most.
It also shows KPK Govt has one of the poorest performance in doing anything to make the situation better in KPK.
So Please think before you hurl blames.

The report is on the news page of NEPRA website. Look for date 03-Feb-2017
 
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miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
rental power plants was a bad idea

There you go, you found a befitting antidote to Rajarawl's postings. It calls for fireworks at Bani Gala to lift the spirits of les miserables.

[FONT=&quot]Where is RANGEELAWAL to post some bs?[/FONT]

R you saying there is no circular debt?

جتھوں دا نورا کھوتا
اوتھے آن کھلوتا

Above post was never meant to say that all is good. In fact all is bad with increasing Circular debts. But the intent was to show who is contributing most to the problem and who is contributing least. The figures show Baluchistan as worst, then Sindh and then KPK. The thefts are least in Punjab and Islamabad, and the recovery is most.
It also shows KPK Govt has one of the poorest performance in doing anything to make the situation better in KPK.
So Please think before you hurl blames.

The report is on the news page of NEPRA website. Look for date 03-Feb-2017

Last I checked. The above Electric distribution companies in Pakistan were under Federal Govt.. And that sums it all.. No other Hanky Panky required that Province is not supporting and this and that, because Federal Govt has the supreme power and can use it at will if there is anyone coming in its way..
 

Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
تم لوگ ہوا میں چھوڑی ہوئی باتوں کو پکڑ ڈسکو ڈانس کرتے ہو تو میں تم لوگوں کے لئے اصل فیکٹس & فگرز لے کر آیا ہوں
تم لوگوں کو پتا ہونا چاہیے کہ گردشی قرضہ ڈسٹریبوشن کمپنی کی پیمنٹ نہ کرنے سے بڑھتے ہیں - اگر نہیں پتا تو تم لوگوں کی جہالت سے ہمدردی ہے - تم لوگ یہ بھی کہ رہے ہو کہ پنجاب اور مرکزی حکومت اس قرضے کے بڑھنے کی ذمہ دار ہے - اگر اصل حالت دیکھنا ہے تو نیچے والی ڈیٹیل دیکھو -

Please let me know if you want to understand some of details. I will explain.

Recovery rates (of non-payments) Para 2.2 of the report. (highest to lowest)
1: Multan Electric Power Company (MEPCO): 102.33 %
2: Faisalabad Electric Supply Company (FESCO): 100.06%


3: Islamabad Electric Supply Company (IESCO): 99.8%
4: Lahore Electric Supply Company (LESCO): 95.88%
5: Gujranwala Electric Power Company (GEPCO): 97%
6: Karachi K-Electric: 91.22%
7: Peshawar Electric Supply Company (PESCO): 88%
8: Hyderabad Electric Supply Company (HESCO): 78.2%
9: Sukkur Electric Power Company (SEPCO): 57.81%
10: Quetta Electric Supply Company (QESCO): 32.6%
11: Tribal Areas Electricity Supply Company (TESCO): No data posted



Losses (Theft and Line Losses): Para 2.1

Islamabad Electric Supply Company (IESCO): 9.41 %
Gujranwala Electric Power Company (GEPCO): 10.72 %
Faisalabad Electric Supply Company (FESCO): 11 %
Lahore Electric Supply Company (LESCO): 14.1 %
Multan Electric Power Company (MEPCO): 16.7 %
Karachi K-Electric: 23.69 %
Quetta Electric Supply Company (QESCO): 24.4 %
Hyderabad Electric Supply Company (HESCO): 27.1 %
Peshawar Electric Supply Company (PESCO): 34.8 %
Sukkur Electric Power Company (SEPCO): 38.29 %
Tribal Areas Electricity Supply Company (TESCO): No data posted


Nepra gave targets to reduce the theft and transmission losses. Following is the order of breach in achieving the target is below
Breach of Targets given to cut losses Para 2.1


Islamabad Electric Supply Company (IESCO): -0.03 % (went above target)
Gujranwala Electric Power Company (GEPCO): 0.74 %
Faisalabad Electric Supply Company (FESCO): 1.5 %
Multan Electric Power Company (MEPCO): 1.7 %
Lahore Electric Supply Company (LESCO): 2.35 %
Hyderabad Electric Supply Company (HESCO): 27.1 %
Quetta Electric Supply Company (QESCO): 6.6 %
Karachi K-Electric: 8.69 %
Peshawar Electric Supply Company (PESCO): 8.8 %
Sukkur Electric Power Company (SEPCO): 10.79 %
Tribal Areas Electricity Supply Company (TESCO): No data posted


The link of report is given below.

Source: http://www.nepra.org.pk/Standards/PER DISCOs and KE for 2014-15.pdf
بہت شکریہ.

Now....here are a couple of basic facts.
We all know that line losses and theft was highest in KPK, because of power that was being doled for free to TESCO from KPK feeders, and because of ANP and PPP corruption. Recovery rates were around 50%.
It was acknowledged by NEPRA itself recently that KPK had the highest increase in recovery rates, though it was still behind Punjab numerically, for obvious reasons.

Secondly, heres a little snapshot of the dirty facts surrounding higher recovery rates in Punjab.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1050638/inflated-bills-behind-improved-recovery-rate-of-power-firms/

And oh..not to forget....just yesterday it was reported that circular debt was back at 2013 level. Now with oil prices half of what they were in 2013, how is that NOT an achievement?
 

Munawarkhan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
تم لوگ ہوا میں چھوڑی ہوئی باتوں کو پکڑ ڈسکو ڈانس کرتے ہو تو میں تم لوگوں کے لئے اصل فیکٹس & فگرز لے کر آیا ہوں
تم لوگوں کو پتا ہونا چاہیے کہ گردشی قرضہ ڈسٹریبوشن کمپنی کی پیمنٹ نہ کرنے سے بڑھتے ہیں - اگر نہیں پتا تو تم لوگوں کی جہالت سے ہمدردی ہے - تم لوگ یہ بھی کہ رہے ہو کہ پنجاب اور مرکزی حکومت اس قرضے کے بڑھنے کی ذمہ دار ہے - اگر اصل حالت دیکھنا ہے تو نیچے والی ڈیٹیل دیکھو -

Please let me know if you want to understand some of details. I will explain.

You know that NEPRA is the regulatory authority on the power distribution which is totally independent body. NEPRA monitors all the power related affairs and has the whip (Chaabuk) to keep every on in line including Central and provincial Govts. NEPRA issued the report on the performance of Power distribution companies in terms of controlling the theft and recovering the payments. The report was issued on Feb-03/2017 which contains data for 2014-15. The loss in money recovered in 2014-15 contributed to the circular debt in 2016.
You also know that the payments recovery is the responsibility of the provincial Govts.
Look at the performance of the distribution companies published in Report of an independent Authority. You Must look at the figures of PESCO for comparison. PESCO is directly under control of KPK Govt. Also look at the performance of the companies under Punjab and central Govt. This will also tell you something about the Governance.


Recovery rates (of non-payments) Para 2.2 of the report. (highest to lowest)
1: Multan Electric Power Company (MEPCO): 102.33 %
2: Faisalabad Electric Supply Company (FESCO): 100.06%


3: Islamabad Electric Supply Company (IESCO): 99.8%
4: Lahore Electric Supply Company (LESCO): 95.88%
5: Gujranwala Electric Power Company (GEPCO): 97%
6: Karachi K-Electric: 91.22%
7: Peshawar Electric Supply Company (PESCO): 88%
8: Hyderabad Electric Supply Company (HESCO): 78.2%
9: Sukkur Electric Power Company (SEPCO): 57.81%
10: Quetta Electric Supply Company (QESCO): 32.6%
11: Tribal Areas Electricity Supply Company (TESCO): No data posted



Losses (Theft and Line Losses): Para 2.1

Islamabad Electric Supply Company (IESCO): 9.41 %
Gujranwala Electric Power Company (GEPCO): 10.72 %
Faisalabad Electric Supply Company (FESCO): 11 %
Lahore Electric Supply Company (LESCO): 14.1 %
Multan Electric Power Company (MEPCO): 16.7 %
Karachi K-Electric: 23.69 %
Quetta Electric Supply Company (QESCO): 24.4 %
Hyderabad Electric Supply Company (HESCO): 27.1 %
Peshawar Electric Supply Company (PESCO): 34.8 %
Sukkur Electric Power Company (SEPCO): 38.29 %
Tribal Areas Electricity Supply Company (TESCO): No data posted


Nepra gave targets to reduce the theft and transmission losses. Following is the order of breach in achieving the target is below
Breach of Targets given to cut losses Para 2.1


Islamabad Electric Supply Company (IESCO): -0.03 % (went above target)
Gujranwala Electric Power Company (GEPCO): 0.74 %
Faisalabad Electric Supply Company (FESCO): 1.5 %
Multan Electric Power Company (MEPCO): 1.7 %
Lahore Electric Supply Company (LESCO): 2.35 %
Hyderabad Electric Supply Company (HESCO): 27.1 %
Quetta Electric Supply Company (QESCO): 6.6 %
Karachi K-Electric: 8.69 %
Peshawar Electric Supply Company (PESCO): 8.8 %
Sukkur Electric Power Company (SEPCO): 10.79 %
Tribal Areas Electricity Supply Company (TESCO): No data posted


The link of report is given below.

Source: http://www.nepra.org.pk/Standards/PER DISCOs and KE for 2014-15.pdf

See now you are doing the same thing that govt. does; presenting half facts. PESCO's graph shows improvement improvement in all areas 2013 onwards. Same cannot be said of other regulatory bodies.
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Please dont start a new debate, whoever it is under.
Recovery of money and blocking theft is provincial Govts responsibility.


Last I checked. The above Electric distribution companies in Pakistan were under Federal Govt.. And that sums it all.. No other Hanky Panky required that Province is not supporting and this and that, because Federal Govt has the supreme power and can use it at will if there is anyone coming in its way..
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Munawar Pleases come with the references and details, just like I did, then we will talk about what you are saying. Let us please correct the trend of talking in the air on this forum. It will make is more informative and substantial.
Good thing that you accepted them as facts ---- even half.


See now you are doing the same thing that govt. does; presenting half facts. PESCO's graph shows improvement improvement in all areas 2013 onwards. Same cannot be said of other regulatory bodies.
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Please dont start a new debate, whoever it is under.
Recovery of money and blocking theft is provincial Govts responsibility.



Yes don't start a debate please.. If head of a family or captain of a team is unable to implement his order or incapable of resolving the issues, and due to any reason(including these 2 reasons) is unable to show good performance then he has no right to be head of the family or captain of the team.. So all in all the responsibility is of the captain to deal with the issues at hand..
 

Munawarkhan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Munawar Pleases come with the references and details, just like I did, then we will talk about what you are saying. Let us please correct the trend of talking in the air on this forum. It will make is more informative and substantial.
Good thing that you accepted them as facts ---- even half.

Raja my observation is based on the same link that u provided. You only took out information for 2015. The information provided is for 5 years. If you see the table in each graph it gives you a summary of what has been happening since 2010-2015.

So e.g. PESCO was able to bring down load shedding from 4.8 hrs average to 2.5 hrs. PESCO's recovery improved from 83% in 2010 to 88%. Now 88% is still bad then others but the govt has been able to improve its performance. Your argument was under current KPK govt it has worsened which is not correct.
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Raja my observation is based on the same link that u provided. You only took out information for 2015. The information provided is for 5 years. If you see the table in each graph it gives you a summary of what has been happening since 2010-2015.

So e.g. PESCO was able to bring down load shedding from 4.8 hrs average to 2.5 hrs. PESCO's recovery improved from 83% in 2010 to 88%. Now 88% is still bad then others but the govt has been able to improve its performance. Your argument was under current KPK govt it has worsened which is not correct.

True. But what i meant that. The blame shoud be even dont just throw everything on one side only.
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
بہت شکریہ.

Now....here are a couple of basic facts.
We all know that line losses and theft was highest in KPK, because of power that was being doled for free to TESCO from KPK feeders, and because of ANP and PPP corruption. Recovery rates were around 50%.
It was acknowledged by NEPRA itself recently that KPK had the highest increase in recovery rates, though it was still behind Punjab numerically, for obvious reasons.

Secondly, heres a little snapshot of the dirty facts surrounding higher recovery rates in Punjab.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1050638/inflated-bills-behind-improved-recovery-rate-of-power-firms/

And oh..not to forget....just yesterday it was reported that circular debt was back at 2013 level. Now with oil prices half of what they were in 2013, how is that NOT an achievement?

Thanks for alway coming with very positive attitude will bite. I definitly agree with you about the problems of KPK. I will never close my eyes from the grave situations it faces. And same is the case for Baluchistan Govt. In fact at this time it is worst.
I think i had read the news you have given the link. But i will read it again.
 

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