Perception versus Reality (All About Imran Khan)

PakiPatriot

MPA (400+ posts)

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It is a common perception in today's politics that Imran Khan will change the politics in pakistan. or change the future of the Pakistan for the better.. So lets see how real is this thought or is it just like a new "roti, kapra, makaan" slogan (perception) for the innocent and believing masses of the Pakistan without any basis in the reality

So What will change?

Vision
Imran Khan number of time has said that he will have a single education system in Pakistan. Thats a very good thougth. Currently we have Matriculation, Madrassah & British O' Level system in Pakistan. Now these three systems are quite extreme to each other. So i wander which system he will pick. I looked for the answer but i have failed to find any answer. If you have heard or read any statement by Imran Khan or PTI that with what education system they will replace the current tripartite system then i will be glad to know and will like to correct myself. For the purpose of keeping it short i m not going to other examples where he just made claims without any plan of action. So i feel he don't have any plan it is just a perception.


Speeches
Now lets talk about him as a speaker.
So what Imran Khan talked about In Quetta jalsa? He said where is the money for the Baluchistan development is going. if i will come in power, economy will boast. and above all NAWAZ SHARIF is the cause of the problem in Balochistan. Now is there anything different than what Bilawal Zardari Bhutto would have talked about, had he addressed in Quetta or Larkana? Has there anything new other than making tall claims without any plan or vision and accusing the opponents. Nawaz Sharif might be an arch enemy of him, but he and his party has zero presence in Balochistan. Why tell the Baluchs about someone they hardly know. Balochistan is full of crisis and full of potential and i have heard and believed that PTI has a very learned team. It would have been my pleasure had Imran Khan proposed some plans for the development and advancement of Balochistan, prepapred and presented by his very talented and learned team.

Lets talk about Karachi address. Karachi land of lights which has been colored with blood because of few armed parties. What he talked there. Okay let me give you a hint, he didnt talk about Karachi's problem's solutions. He talked about Nawaz Sharif, yup. Seriously PTI supporter, is this is the best your party leader can do?? Does he have any vision or his eyes are fixed on Nawaz Sharif only.

So i don't see any difference in the address and speeches he does and which are done by other parties, They also have same claims and statement and accusations. Perception is it has chance, Reality is nothing has changed.

Statements
Now come to countless bold statements he have given. Starting from his pre-significance era.
Claiming that he will get MQM be declared terrorist organization by the UK authorities. What happened.? He didnt even say a word on the firing which happened on Sindh Love rally which all the people know is done by MQM. But Imran Khan put the blame on Nawaz Sharif.

In Lahore Jalsa he declared that in 6 months if all the politicans do not declare their assets he will expose. I was really very happy and looking forward to it. 6 months passed nothing happened, rather many corrupt leader joined him. I think he forgot Nawaz Sharif to be blamed for it too.
Then he gave two dharnas in Peshawar & Karachi on the Nato Drone Attacks and Supplies. Drones attacks are still going on. in last week only 3 drone attacks happened.. any statement against them or the government by Imran Khan? Nope, Nada, non. Any statement by Imran Khan against Nawaz Sharif? Many. :)

We can continue on this.. but you get the idea. Show me only one plan of action where he said it and delivered it.

Actions
Now come to some of the very important fact. By the way i like to talk with facts & figures and if you have facts & figures then reply else dont bother. Because these statements matter nothing as i have shown earlier.
So Imran khan got elected in 2002 from his Mianwali seat. He remained memeber of the parliament for Five year.
Many bills were passed in that era and many things happened in that era. Starting from Drone strikes. Which started in 2004. Did Imran Khan said anything against it.? i have searched the web but i didnt find any statement by Imran Khan against drone attack while he was the member of the parliament. Were drone strike okay at that time. Even if he gave any statement, he did not resigned from parliament. WHY? why now he expect opposition to resign on every issue. Why in his time of being an MNA he never resigned while multiple instances of events happend. Starting from drone strike, Lal Masjid Operation, passing of bills. passing of NRO and other bills.? Did he approve all those things.?


Lets talk about now. This government is very corrupt. everyone knows. Corruption in Hajj, Corruption in Railways, in PIA in Rental Power almost in everything. I asked this question with many PTI supporter that Imran Khan has an awesome, learned, talented team. So how many corruption cases Imran Khan has opened in the courts against the government. If not than what his learned, awesome, talented team is doing.? tapping thumbs or sleeping or too lazy to work anything?
Or PTI does not believe that the courts are independent now.? or CJ Iftikhar is biased against PTI? This is very important issue. Because if he cant make cases while being out of government then this means that we will again start seeing politically motivated cases like we use to have in 90s if PTI comes in power. Or last thing is that Imran Khan believe his words are the final authority. So this will mean seeing another dictator in a civilian clothes.. which is not going to be good either
Knowledge

Knowledge
Now lets talk about some of his knowledge. A bit while ago when he had an interview with Saleem Safi When Saleem safi asked why he pushed old people and brough forward new people.. he said Prophet(SAW) did that. and gave the example of Hazrat Umar (RA) where he does not even know the Hazrat Umar (RA) is considered to be 40th muslim and considered as one of the earliest muslims. All muslims before the battle of Badar are considered first phase muslims. Similarly if we have to divide PTI's struggle into two parts earlier struggle & later struggle, we can put the mark around Lahore Jalsa. and now see that none of the top manager in the PTI current top regime was part of the PTI before PTI earlier struggle.
Shah Mehmood.
Javed Hashmi
Shafqat Cheema
Abrar ul Haq
Jahangir Khan Tareen
and the list continues
all of these people who are enjoying top posts, joined the party after the Lahore jalsa. They have not been through the struggle of the PTI. I respected the PTI struggle but now they have sold theirselves and it gives me sadness to say that i feel Imran Khan lies a lot.


Comparison with others
Now last argument which i get is that he has got a track record. Definitely Shaukat Khanum Memorial Hospital is a big achievement. and i salute him for this great charity work. But does that one thing make him a saint? We have Al-Khidmat Foundation, Khidmat-e-Khalq foundation, Al-rashid foundation and many other organizations doing some amazing social welfare works which were even praised by UN and other european organization when the flood and other catastrophe's hit Pakistan. We know how their political wings do when they come in power. So i will just say dont be short sighted. SKMH is an achievement but behind it was mother's love and that surely is very very strong.

But looking at Imran Khan impartially and realistically with the facts and figures of the ground i will just say A man full of vengeance is not a man, i want to lead my country. A Man full of hate is not a man, i want to lead my country, A man full of ignorance is not a man, i want to lead my country a man full of arrogance is not a man, i want to lead my country.

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SalmanKhanN

MPA (400+ posts)
Khalid Bin Waleed.. he said..Khalid Bin Waleed fought against us.. Second Umar bin Khatab (May Allah be pleased with them both.. actually came to attack Prophet Muhammad SAW but become muslim..
 

Jams123

MPA (400+ posts)
lol... reading after I must say the tile should be '' Reality vs your Bias'' ,,,, total bongi and too hypothetical,, no logic but jazbaat and loyalty to your master..

we should not say b..u..l..l....................... S.h.it on this forum :-
 
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Samiakh

Citizen
Sir you have made some good points. But they all pale in comparison to one FACT. iK is not a thief. It is unfortunate that our Pakistani public somehow believes that it is the right of politicians to steal from us. Read Ray Bakers book, if you want to save Pakistan you only have one choice Prayers and IK!








It is a common perception in today's politics that Imran Khan will change the politics in pakistan. or change the future of the Pakistan for the better.. So lets see how real is this thought or is it just like a new "roti, kapra, makaan" slogan (perception) for the innocent and believing masses of the Pakistan without any basis in the reality

So What will change?

Vision
Imran Khan number of time has said that he will have a single education system in Pakistan. Thats a very good thougth. Currently we have Matriculation, Madrassah & British O' Level system in Pakistan. Now these three systems are quite extreme to each other. So i wander which system he will pick. I looked for the answer but i have failed to find any answer. If you have heard or read any statement by Imran Khan or PTI that with what education system they will replace the current tripartite system then i will be glad to know and will like to correct myself. For the purpose of keeping it short i m not going to other examples where he just made claims without any plan of action. So i feel he don't have any plan it is just a perception.


Speeches
Now lets talk about him as a speaker.
So what Imran Khan talked about In Quetta jalsa? He said where is the money for the Baluchistan development is going. if i will come in power, economy will boast. and above all NAWAZ SHARIF is the cause of the problem in Balochistan. Now is there anything different than what Bilawal Zardari Bhutto would have talked about, had he addressed in Quetta or Larkana? Has there anything new other than making tall claims without any plan or vision and accusing the opponents. Nawaz Sharif might be an arch enemy of him, but he and his party has zero presence in Balochistan. Why tell the Baluchs about someone they hardly know. Balochistan is full of crisis and full of potential and i have heard and believed that PTI has a very learned team. It would have been my pleasure had Imran Khan proposed some plans for the development and advancement of Balochistan, prepapred and presented by his very talented and learned team.

Lets talk about Karachi address. Karachi land of lights which has been colored with blood because of few armed parties. What he talked there. Okay let me give you a hint, he didnt talk about Karachi's problem's solutions. He talked about Nawaz Sharif, yup. Seriously PTI supporter, is this is the best your party leader can do?? Does he have any vision or his eyes are fixed on Nawaz Sharif only.

So i don't see any difference in the address and speeches he does and which are done by other parties, They also have same claims and statement and accusations. Perception is it has chance, Reality is nothing has changed.

Statements
Now come to countless bold statements he have given. Starting from his pre-significance era.
Claiming that he will get MQM be declared terrorist organization by the UK authorities. What happened.? He didnt even say a word on the firing which happened on Sindh Love rally which all the people know is done by MQM. But Imran Khan put the blame on Nawaz Sharif.

In Lahore Jalsa he declared that in 6 months if all the politicans do not declare their assets he will expose. I was really very happy and looking forward to it. 6 months passed nothing happened, rather many corrupt leader joined him. I think he forgot Nawaz Sharif to be blamed for it too.
Then he gave two dharnas in Peshawar & Karachi on the Nato Drone Attacks and Supplies. Drones attacks are still going on. in last week only 3 drone attacks happened.. any statement against them or the government by Imran Khan? Nope, Nada, non. Any statement by Imran Khan against Nawaz Sharif? Many. :)

We can continue on this.. but you get the idea. Show me only one plan of action where he said it and delivered it.

Actions
Now come to some of the very important fact. By the way i like to talk with facts & figures and if you have facts & figures then reply else dont bother. Because these statements matter nothing as i have shown earlier.
So Imran khan got elected in 2002 from his Mianwali seat. He remained memeber of the parliament for Five year.
Many bills were passed in that era and many things happened in that era. Starting from Drone strikes. Which started in 2004. Did Imran Khan said anything against it.? i have searched the web but i didnt find any statement by Imran Khan against drone attack while he was the member of the parliament. Were drone strike okay at that time. Even if he gave any statement, he did not resigned from parliament. WHY? why now he expect opposition to resign on every issue. Why in his time of being an MNA he never resigned while multiple instances of events happend. Starting from drone strike, Lal Masjid Operation, passing of bills. passing of NRO and other bills.? Did he approve all those things.?


Knowledge
Now lets talk about some of his knowledge. A bit while ago when he had an interview with Saleem Safi When Saleem safi asked why he pushed old people and brough forward new people.. he said Prophet(SAW) did that. and gave the example of Hazrat Umar (RA) where he does not even know the Hazrat Umar (RA) is considered to be 40th muslim and considered as one of the earliest muslims. All muslims before the battle of Badar are considered first phase muslims. Similarly if we have to divide PTI's struggle into two parts earlier struggle & later struggle, we can put the mark around Lahore Jalsa. and now see that none of the top manager in the PTI current top regime was part of the PTI before PTI earlier struggle.
Shah Mehmood.
Javed Hashmi
Shafqat Cheema
Abrar ul Haq
Jahangir Khan Tareen
and the list continues
all of these people who are enjoying top posts, joined the party after the Lahore jalsa. They have not been through the struggle of the PTI. I respected the PTI struggle but now they have sold theirselves and it gives me sadness to say that i feel Imran Khan lies a lot.


Comparison with others
Now last argument which i get is that he has got a track record. Definitely Shaukat Khanum Memorial Hospital is a big achievement. and i salute him for this great charity work. But does that one thing make him a saint? We have Al-Khidmat Foundation, Khidmat-e-Khalq foundation, Al-rashid foundation and many other organizations doing some amazing social welfare works which were even praised by UN and other european organization when the flood and other catastrophe's hit Pakistan. We know how their political wings do when they come in power. So i will just say dont be short sighted. SKMH is an achievement but behind it was mother's love and that surely is very very strong.

But looking at Imran Khan impartially and realistically with the facts and figures of the ground i will just say A man full of vengeance is not a man, i want to lead my country. A Man full of hate is not a man, i want to lead my country, A man full of ignorance is not a man, i want to lead my country a man full of arrogance is not a man, i want to lead my country.

DO YOU want such a MAN to lead your country else open your eyes.

 

insaf-seeker

Minister (2k+ posts)
tum chotay zehan k logon ki samjh sey bahir hai keh Imran Khan kis ka naam hai, IMRAN KHAN IS THE NAME OF THIS ATTITUDE

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Inshallah Imran Khan will make this country prosperous and undefeatable, and people like you will just "WACTH HIM" !!!
 
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fawadmasud

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
It is a common perception in today's politics that Imran Khan will change the politics in pakistan. or change the future of the Pakistan for the better.. So lets see how real is this thought or is it just like a new "roti, kapra, makaan" slogan (perception) for the innocent and believing masses of the Pakistan without any basis in the reality

So What will change?

Vision
Imran Khan number of time has said that he will have a single education system in Pakistan. Thats a very good thougth. Currently we have Matriculation, Madrassah & British O' Level system in Pakistan. Now these three systems are quite extreme to each other. So i wander which system he will pick. I looked for the answer but i have failed to find any answer. If you have heard or read any statement by Imran Khan or PTI that with what education system they will replace the current tripartite system then i will be glad to know and will like to correct myself. For the purpose of keeping it short i m not going to other examples where he just made claims without any plan of action. So i feel he don't have any plan it is just a perception.


Speeches
Now lets talk about him as a speaker.
So what Imran Khan talked about In Quetta jalsa? He said where is the money for the Baluchistan development is going. if i will come in power, economy will boast. and above all NAWAZ SHARIF is the cause of the problem in Balochistan. Now is there anything different than what Bilawal Zardari Bhutto would have talked about, had he addressed in Quetta or Larkana? Has there anything new other than making tall claims without any plan or vision and accusing the opponents. Nawaz Sharif might be an arch enemy of him, but he and his party has zero presence in Balochistan. Why tell the Baluchs about someone they hardly know. Balochistan is full of crisis and full of potential and i have heard and believed that PTI has a very learned team. It would have been my pleasure had Imran Khan proposed some plans for the development and advancement of Balochistan, prepapred and presented by his very talented and learned team.

Lets talk about Karachi address. Karachi land of lights which has been colored with blood because of few armed parties. What he talked there. Okay let me give you a hint, he didnt talk about Karachi's problem's solutions. He talked about Nawaz Sharif, yup. Seriously PTI supporter, is this is the best your party leader can do?? Does he have any vision or his eyes are fixed on Nawaz Sharif only.

So i don't see any difference in the address and speeches he does and which are done by other parties, They also have same claims and statement and accusations. Perception is it has chance, Reality is nothing has changed.

Statements
Now come to countless bold statements he have given. Starting from his pre-significance era.
Claiming that he will get MQM be declared terrorist organization by the UK authorities. What happened.? He didnt even say a word on the firing which happened on Sindh Love rally which all the people know is done by MQM. But Imran Khan put the blame on Nawaz Sharif.

In Lahore Jalsa he declared that in 6 months if all the politicans do not declare their assets he will expose. I was really very happy and looking forward to it. 6 months passed nothing happened, rather many corrupt leader joined him. I think he forgot Nawaz Sharif to be blamed for it too.
Then he gave two dharnas in Peshawar & Karachi on the Nato Drone Attacks and Supplies. Drones attacks are still going on. in last week only 3 drone attacks happened.. any statement against them or the government by Imran Khan? Nope, Nada, non. Any statement by Imran Khan against Nawaz Sharif? Many. :)

We can continue on this.. but you get the idea. Show me only one plan of action where he said it and delivered it.

Actions
Now come to some of the very important fact. By the way i like to talk with facts & figures and if you have facts & figures then reply else dont bother. Because these statements matter nothing as i have shown earlier.
So Imran khan got elected in 2002 from his Mianwali seat. He remained memeber of the parliament for Five year.
Many bills were passed in that era and many things happened in that era. Starting from Drone strikes. Which started in 2004. Did Imran Khan said anything against it.? i have searched the web but i didnt find any statement by Imran Khan against drone attack while he was the member of the parliament. Were drone strike okay at that time. Even if he gave any statement, he did not resigned from parliament. WHY? why now he expect opposition to resign on every issue. Why in his time of being an MNA he never resigned while multiple instances of events happend. Starting from drone strike, Lal Masjid Operation, passing of bills. passing of NRO and other bills.? Did he approve all those things.?


Knowledge
Now lets talk about some of his knowledge. A bit while ago when he had an interview with Saleem Safi When Saleem safi asked why he pushed old people and brough forward new people.. he said Prophet(SAW) did that. and gave the example of Hazrat Umar (RA) where he does not even know the Hazrat Umar (RA) is considered to be 40th muslim and considered as one of the earliest muslims. All muslims before the battle of Badar are considered first phase muslims. Similarly if we have to divide PTI's struggle into two parts earlier struggle & later struggle, we can put the mark around Lahore Jalsa. and now see that none of the top manager in the PTI current top regime was part of the PTI before PTI earlier struggle.
Shah Mehmood.
Javed Hashmi
Shafqat Cheema
Abrar ul Haq
Jahangir Khan Tareen
and the list continues
all of these people who are enjoying top posts, joined the party after the Lahore jalsa. They have not been through the struggle of the PTI. I respected the PTI struggle but now they have sold theirselves and it gives me sadness to say that i feel Imran Khan lies a lot.


Comparison with others
Now last argument which i get is that he has got a track record. Definitely Shaukat Khanum Memorial Hospital is a big achievement. and i salute him for this great charity work. But does that one thing make him a saint? We have Al-Khidmat Foundation, Khidmat-e-Khalq foundation, Al-rashid foundation and many other organizations doing some amazing social welfare works which were even praised by UN and other european organization when the flood and other catastrophe's hit Pakistan. We know how their political wings do when they come in power. So i will just say dont be short sighted. SKMH is an achievement but behind it was mother's love and that surely is very very strong.

But looking at Imran Khan impartially and realistically with the facts and figures of the ground i will just say A man full of vengeance is not a man, i want to lead my country. A Man full of hate is not a man, i want to lead my country, A man full of ignorance is not a man, i want to lead my country a man full of arrogance is not a man, i want to lead my country.

DO YOU want such a MAN to lead your country else open your eyes.


Sir aap bilkul na vote daliye ga PTI ko bari meharbani. unko dalna jinhoon nay Pakistan ko barbaad kya aur loota. Noora khusti k mahir ko dalna jo 25 saal say Punjab main hakim hain aur koi aik cheez aur koi aik system bhi theek nahin kar sakay. You wasted your time and yes plz show some courage to use your real name while writing.
 

aliasghar81

MPA (400+ posts)
It is a common perception in today's politics that Imran Khan will change the politics in pakistan. or change the future of the Pakistan for the better.. So lets see how real is this thought or is it just like a new "roti, kapra, makaan" slogan (perception) for the innocent and believing masses of the Pakistan without any basis in the reality

So What will change?

Vision
Imran Khan number of time has said that he will have a single education system in Pakistan. Thats a very good thougth. Currently we have Matriculation, Madrassah & British O' Level system in Pakistan. Now these three systems are quite extreme to each other. So i wander which system he will pick. I looked for the answer but i have failed to find any answer. If you have heard or read any statement by Imran Khan or PTI that with what education system they will replace the current tripartite system then i will be glad to know and will like to correct myself. For the purpose of keeping it short i m not going to other examples where he just made claims without any plan of action. So i feel he don't have any plan it is just a perception.


Speeches
Now lets talk about him as a speaker.
So what Imran Khan talked about In Quetta jalsa? He said where is the money for the Baluchistan development is going. if i will come in power, economy will boast. and above all NAWAZ SHARIF is the cause of the problem in Balochistan. Now is there anything different than what Bilawal Zardari Bhutto would have talked about, had he addressed in Quetta or Larkana? Has there anything new other than making tall claims without any plan or vision and accusing the opponents. Nawaz Sharif might be an arch enemy of him, but he and his party has zero presence in Balochistan. Why tell the Baluchs about someone they hardly know. Balochistan is full of crisis and full of potential and i have heard and believed that PTI has a very learned team. It would have been my pleasure had Imran Khan proposed some plans for the development and advancement of Balochistan, prepapred and presented by his very talented and learned team.

Lets talk about Karachi address. Karachi land of lights which has been colored with blood because of few armed parties. What he talked there. Okay let me give you a hint, he didnt talk about Karachi's problem's solutions. He talked about Nawaz Sharif, yup. Seriously PTI supporter, is this is the best your party leader can do?? Does he have any vision or his eyes are fixed on Nawaz Sharif only.

So i don't see any difference in the address and speeches he does and which are done by other parties, They also have same claims and statement and accusations. Perception is it has chance, Reality is nothing has changed.

Statements
Now come to countless bold statements he have given. Starting from his pre-significance era.
Claiming that he will get MQM be declared terrorist organization by the UK authorities. What happened.? He didnt even say a word on the firing which happened on Sindh Love rally which all the people know is done by MQM. But Imran Khan put the blame on Nawaz Sharif.

In Lahore Jalsa he declared that in 6 months if all the politicans do not declare their assets he will expose. I was really very happy and looking forward to it. 6 months passed nothing happened, rather many corrupt leader joined him. I think he forgot Nawaz Sharif to be blamed for it too.
Then he gave two dharnas in Peshawar & Karachi on the Nato Drone Attacks and Supplies. Drones attacks are still going on. in last week only 3 drone attacks happened.. any statement against them or the government by Imran Khan? Nope, Nada, non. Any statement by Imran Khan against Nawaz Sharif? Many. :)

We can continue on this.. but you get the idea. Show me only one plan of action where he said it and delivered it.

Actions
Now come to some of the very important fact. By the way i like to talk with facts & figures and if you have facts & figures then reply else dont bother. Because these statements matter nothing as i have shown earlier.
So Imran khan got elected in 2002 from his Mianwali seat. He remained memeber of the parliament for Five year.
Many bills were passed in that era and many things happened in that era. Starting from Drone strikes. Which started in 2004. Did Imran Khan said anything against it.? i have searched the web but i didnt find any statement by Imran Khan against drone attack while he was the member of the parliament. Were drone strike okay at that time. Even if he gave any statement, he did not resigned from parliament. WHY? why now he expect opposition to resign on every issue. Why in his time of being an MNA he never resigned while multiple instances of events happend. Starting from drone strike, Lal Masjid Operation, passing of bills. passing of NRO and other bills.? Did he approve all those things.?


Knowledge
Now lets talk about some of his knowledge. A bit while ago when he had an interview with Saleem Safi When Saleem safi asked why he pushed old people and brough forward new people.. he said Prophet(SAW) did that. and gave the example of Hazrat Umar (RA) where he does not even know the Hazrat Umar (RA) is considered to be 40th muslim and considered as one of the earliest muslims. All muslims before the battle of Badar are considered first phase muslims. Similarly if we have to divide PTI's struggle into two parts earlier struggle & later struggle, we can put the mark around Lahore Jalsa. and now see that none of the top manager in the PTI current top regime was part of the PTI before PTI earlier struggle.
Shah Mehmood.
Javed Hashmi
Shafqat Cheema
Abrar ul Haq
Jahangir Khan Tareen
and the list continues
all of these people who are enjoying top posts, joined the party after the Lahore jalsa. They have not been through the struggle of the PTI. I respected the PTI struggle but now they have sold theirselves and it gives me sadness to say that i feel Imran Khan lies a lot.


Comparison with others
Now last argument which i get is that he has got a track record. Definitely Shaukat Khanum Memorial Hospital is a big achievement. and i salute him for this great charity work. But does that one thing make him a saint? We have Al-Khidmat Foundation, Khidmat-e-Khalq foundation, Al-rashid foundation and many other organizations doing some amazing social welfare works which were even praised by UN and other european organization when the flood and other catastrophe's hit Pakistan. We know how their political wings do when they come in power. So i will just say dont be short sighted. SKMH is an achievement but behind it was mother's love and that surely is very very strong.

But looking at Imran Khan impartially and realistically with the facts and figures of the ground i will just say A man full of vengeance is not a man, i want to lead my country. A Man full of hate is not a man, i want to lead my country, A man full of ignorance is not a man, i want to lead my country a man full of arrogance is not a man, i want to lead my country.

DO YOU want such a MAN to lead your country else open your eyes.


Was an eye opener but ill take my chances and still vote for IK.

By the way please tell me do they pay you by the length of an article. Like 100 words = 500 Rs. Or is it fixed monthly salary.
 

imyrathore

MPA (400+ posts)
[MENTION=19070]PakiPatriot[/MENTION] to be honest i was thinking of posting a detail response but then i thought i why get involved in a discussion with someone like ur good self. I read a qoute somewhere - Don’t argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Sums things up for me. Take care and peace to u.
 

abdullah.drs

Senator (1k+ posts)
It is a common perception in today's politics that Imran Khan will change the politics in pakistan. or change the future of the Pakistan for the better.. So lets see how real is this thought or is it just like a new "roti, kapra, makaan" slogan (perception) for the innocent and believing masses of the Pakistan without any basis in the reality

So What will change?

Vision
Imran Khan number of time has said that he will have a single education system in Pakistan. Thats a very good thougth. Currently we have Matriculation, Madrassah & British O' Level system in Pakistan. Now these three systems are quite extreme to each other. So i wander which system he will pick. I looked for the answer but i have failed to find any answer. If you have heard or read any statement by Imran Khan or PTI that with what education system they will replace the current tripartite system then i will be glad to know and will like to correct myself. For the purpose of keeping it short i m not going to other examples where he just made claims without any plan of action. So i feel he don't have any plan it is just a perception.


Speeches
Now lets talk about him as a speaker.
So what Imran Khan talked about In Quetta jalsa? He said where is the money for the Baluchistan development is going. if i will come in power, economy will boast. and above all NAWAZ SHARIF is the cause of the problem in Balochistan. Now is there anything different than what Bilawal Zardari Bhutto would have talked about, had he addressed in Quetta or Larkana? Has there anything new other than making tall claims without any plan or vision and accusing the opponents. Nawaz Sharif might be an arch enemy of him, but he and his party has zero presence in Balochistan. Why tell the Baluchs about someone they hardly know. Balochistan is full of crisis and full of potential and i have heard and believed that PTI has a very learned team. It would have been my pleasure had Imran Khan proposed some plans for the development and advancement of Balochistan, prepapred and presented by his very talented and learned team.

Lets talk about Karachi address. Karachi land of lights which has been colored with blood because of few armed parties. What he talked there. Okay let me give you a hint, he didnt talk about Karachi's problem's solutions. He talked about Nawaz Sharif, yup. Seriously PTI supporter, is this is the best your party leader can do?? Does he have any vision or his eyes are fixed on Nawaz Sharif only.

So i don't see any difference in the address and speeches he does and which are done by other parties, They also have same claims and statement and accusations. Perception is it has chance, Reality is nothing has changed.

Statements
Now come to countless bold statements he have given. Starting from his pre-significance era.
Claiming that he will get MQM be declared terrorist organization by the UK authorities. What happened.? He didnt even say a word on the firing which happened on Sindh Love rally which all the people know is done by MQM. But Imran Khan put the blame on Nawaz Sharif.

In Lahore Jalsa he declared that in 6 months if all the politicans do not declare their assets he will expose. I was really very happy and looking forward to it. 6 months passed nothing happened, rather many corrupt leader joined him. I think he forgot Nawaz Sharif to be blamed for it too.
Then he gave two dharnas in Peshawar & Karachi on the Nato Drone Attacks and Supplies. Drones attacks are still going on. in last week only 3 drone attacks happened.. any statement against them or the government by Imran Khan? Nope, Nada, non. Any statement by Imran Khan against Nawaz Sharif? Many. :)

We can continue on this.. but you get the idea. Show me only one plan of action where he said it and delivered it.

Actions
Now come to some of the very important fact. By the way i like to talk with facts & figures and if you have facts & figures then reply else dont bother. Because these statements matter nothing as i have shown earlier.
So Imran khan got elected in 2002 from his Mianwali seat. He remained memeber of the parliament for Five year.
Many bills were passed in that era and many things happened in that era. Starting from Drone strikes. Which started in 2004. Did Imran Khan said anything against it.? i have searched the web but i didnt find any statement by Imran Khan against drone attack while he was the member of the parliament. Were drone strike okay at that time. Even if he gave any statement, he did not resigned from parliament. WHY? why now he expect opposition to resign on every issue. Why in his time of being an MNA he never resigned while multiple instances of events happend. Starting from drone strike, Lal Masjid Operation, passing of bills. passing of NRO and other bills.? Did he approve all those things.?


Knowledge
Now lets talk about some of his knowledge. A bit while ago when he had an interview with Saleem Safi When Saleem safi asked why he pushed old people and brough forward new people.. he said Prophet(SAW) did that. and gave the example of Hazrat Umar (RA) where he does not even know the Hazrat Umar (RA) is considered to be 40th muslim and considered as one of the earliest muslims. All muslims before the battle of Badar are considered first phase muslims. Similarly if we have to divide PTI's struggle into two parts earlier struggle & later struggle, we can put the mark around Lahore Jalsa. and now see that none of the top manager in the PTI current top regime was part of the PTI before PTI earlier struggle.
Shah Mehmood.
Javed Hashmi
Shafqat Cheema
Abrar ul Haq
Jahangir Khan Tareen
and the list continues
all of these people who are enjoying top posts, joined the party after the Lahore jalsa. They have not been through the struggle of the PTI. I respected the PTI struggle but now they have sold theirselves and it gives me sadness to say that i feel Imran Khan lies a lot.


Comparison with others
Now last argument which i get is that he has got a track record. Definitely Shaukat Khanum Memorial Hospital is a big achievement. and i salute him for this great charity work. But does that one thing make him a saint? We have Al-Khidmat Foundation, Khidmat-e-Khalq foundation, Al-rashid foundation and many other organizations doing some amazing social welfare works which were even praised by UN and other european organization when the flood and other catastrophe's hit Pakistan. We know how their political wings do when they come in power. So i will just say dont be short sighted. SKMH is an achievement but behind it was mother's love and that surely is very very strong.

But looking at Imran Khan impartially and realistically with the facts and figures of the ground i will just say A man full of vengeance is not a man, i want to lead my country. A Man full of hate is not a man, i want to lead my country, A man full of ignorance is not a man, i want to lead my country a man full of arrogance is not a man, i want to lead my country.

DO YOU want such a MAN to lead your country else open your eyes.



Lol...Yaar koi tau fact likho..idhar udhar ki bongian maar deen hain..
 

UETAIN

MPA (400+ posts)
I know Imran is not upto mark but what can i do when i look at other lot, Noora can bring change or deisel or zardai or any other madari.
i differ imran on many issue but i know one thing that he is sincere person.
 

ConcernedPaki

Minister (2k+ posts)
[HI]@PakiPatriot to be honest i was thinking of posting a detail response but then i thought i why get involved in a discussion with someone like ur good self[/HI]. I read a qoute somewhere - Don’t argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Sums things up for me. Take care and peace to u.

Precisely sums up my feelings as well! :)
 

Jams123

MPA (400+ posts)
I know Imran is not upto mark but what can i do when i look at other lot, Noora can bring change or deisel or zardai or any other madari.
i differ imran on many issue but i know one thing that he is sincere person.

This is as simple as it is... Thanks UETAIN
 

Afraheem

Senator (1k+ posts)
i differ imran on many issue but i know one thing that he is sincere person.

Here is the answer pakipatriot looking for , after all his b.sh!t.And kindly please share with us whom you think we pakistani nation should vote for? If it isnt Imran khan

and thx for UETAIN
 

PakiPatriot

MPA (400+ posts)
@PakiPatriot to be honest i was thinking of posting a detail response but then i thought i why get involved in a discussion with someone like ur good self. I read a qoute somewhere - Don’t argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Sums things up for me. Take care and peace to u.

Brother.. Maybe i m idiot.. because i believe on facts & figures.. I believe on actions more than statements. I believe i can be wrong and i believe i have a lot of room for improvement.. Thats why i believe i m still an idiot. :)
 

PakiPatriot

MPA (400+ posts)
Here is the answer pakipatriot looking for , after all his b.sh!t.And kindly please share with us whom you think we pakistani nation should vote for? If it isnt Imran khan

and thx for UETAIN

Brother i m not chanting for any personality or any party right now.. I believe all are corrupt, insincere to the core.. Which is more corrupt is just an academic debate.. and i believe the problem is that we get too biased in our opinion that we dont question our leaders.

There is an incident that Hazrat Umar (RA) stood to deliver a speech and said Will you listen to me and accept and a bedouin stood up and said that No we will not listen and neither we will accept till you tell us how you manage to make yourself a dress with the cloth which all of us got from "maal-e-ghanimat" cuz the cloth was less than what is required for your dress.. Hazrat Umar (RA) forwarded his son to answer him.. and then when he got satisfied Hazrat Umar (RA) delivered the speech..

May be i m an idiot that i expect that our leaders who atleast proclaim to be holding the flag of insaf are somewhat honest..
Yes I m an IDIOT..
 

PakiPatriot

MPA (400+ posts)
Was an eye opener but ill take my chances and still vote for IK.

By the way please tell me do they pay you by the length of an article. Like 100 words = 500 Rs. Or is it fixed monthly salary.

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if you find any bias other than the bias of Pakistan please do let me know.
Otherwise i pray Allah to give me loads of good deeds from your account on the day of Judgement for the accusation you have put on me... O Allah I make you my advocate.
 

imyrathore

MPA (400+ posts)
Brother.. Maybe i m idiot.. because i believe on facts & figures.. I believe on actions more than statements. I believe i can be wrong and i believe i have a lot of room for improvement.. Thats why i believe i m still an idiot. :)
Good for u at least u admit to it. U may also want to look at the facts regarding the status qou mafia and ther approach to screwing the people and resources of pak for the last 60 years. I will just leave you with a link to a book by Mr Raymond Baker (director of Global Financial Integrity) who has dedicated a few pages to the mafia in pak in his book on corruption it sums up ther insatiable greed, corruption, nepotism and inept governance http://goo.gl/8AzUL . I'll let u have an attempt at digesting some of the fact and figures set out in this book and see ur response. Peace
 

GreatIK

Councller (250+ posts)
PakiPatriot
Can you give us an analysis of any other Pak Politician like you gave for IK. I am sure if you are not biased then you will see that IK gets 90 out of 100 (which means he is not perfect and we all admit that) but the NZ will get 10 out of 100. Now you tell me what is your choice then????
 

ConcernedPaki

Minister (2k+ posts)
Brother i m not chanting for any personality or any party right now.. I believe all are corrupt, insincere to the core.. Which is more corrupt is just an academic debate.. and i believe the problem is that we get too biased in our opinion that we dont question our leaders.

There is an incident that Hazrat Umar (RA) stood to deliver a speech and said Will you listen to me and accept and a bedouin stood up and said that No we will not listen and neither we will accept till you tell us how you manage to make yourself a dress with the cloth which all of us got from "maal-e-ghanimat" cuz the cloth was less than what is required for your dress.. Hazrat Umar (RA) forwarded his son to answer him.. and then when he got satisfied Hazrat Umar (RA) delivered the speech..

May be i m an idiot that i expect that our leaders who atleast proclaim to be holding the flag of insaf are somewhat honest..
Yes I m an IDIOT..

Leaving your confessions aside, there are a number of people on this forum who could give you a point-wise rebuttal. But the very nature of your post forbids me, at least. I just leave you with one thought. Its not Imran vs God in the next election. Its Imran vs Nawaz+Zardari. Now if you write a similar post describing your feelings about the other lot and critically analyze what they bring to the table, some people might bother to engage in a debate with you. Better still, after writing such a post, you might get all answers yourself!