Our Son Of a ***** !!!!

Muhammad Ikhlaq Siddiqui

Minister (2k+ posts)
Our Son of a ***** Dr Shakeel Afridi? by Dr Shahid Qureshi

US President Franklin D Roosevelt once remarked of Nicaraguas dictator, Somoza may be a son of a *****, but hes our son of a *****.
As much as I love people from US for being simple, caring and kind at the same time I hate them for being so ignorant for not knowing what are their governments doing around the world i.e. killing innocent people. In reality Americans are deliberately starved and kept ignorant about how they are perceived around the world? Some of their moves are quite childish and lack maturity i.e. the US response on the sentencing of Dr Shakeel Afriidi a Pakistani national US agent. Dr Shakeel Afridi is sentenced 33 years for spying and helping US in the Abbottabad Operation in which Osama bin Laden was allegedly killed and US stopped $ 33milion aid to Pakistan. He could have been easily exchanged at some point in future after granting him US citizenship and Pakistan is not an enemy country of the USA? There are hundreds and thousands of Shakeel Afridis walking around in Pakistan? US criticise the arrest and sentencing of Pakistani national Shakeel Afridi but would not release Jonathan Pollard (former US and now an Israeli citizen) for spying for Israel a US friendly country?On the other hand when Indians have sent bodies of Pakistani prisoners some Pakistanis in the elite are dying in the on sided love of Indian aman kee asha. No one knows if they are paid to be loved or doing for free as some of them use to be straight. Dr Shakeel Afriidi, Jonathan Pollard and Sarbjeet Singh are spies and sentenced by the court of law. The only way they could be released is either they are pardoned by the President or exchanged. USA is not willing to release Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard on any grounds? But Indians are expecting Pakistan to release Sarvbjeet Singh and US want Dr Shakeel Afridi to be released and go scot free.
1. Sarbjit has confessed that worked for Indias foreign intelligence agency (RAW) and had set off five blasts in Lahore.
2. Four Prime Ministers and three Presidents of Israel have all personally requested Jonathan Pollards release from the Presidents of the US.
3. Why elite Pakistani human rights Ansar Burney, Asma Jhangir, I A Rehman have not protested for Dr Afia Siddiquis handover to the US, and asked for her release?

Sarabjit Singh had confessed his involvement in the bomb blasts according to the court record. Pakistan has TV broadcast a confession by Singh in September 2005, in which he said, he worked for Indias foreign intelligence agency (RAW) and had set off five blasts in Lahore.
Sarabjit was arrested by the Pakistani security officials for the killings of 14 innocent people in bombings. Pakistani government had released more than 100 Indian prisoners since the coalition government came to power.
The way Zardari government dying in one-sided love with the Indians as Musharraf; it seems they will sell everything our ancestors fought for. It seems they are in a hurry to finish the job? When was the issue of transit trade to Afghanistan from India discussed, in cabinet or parliament? When India is blocking Pakistans water, Mr Zardari is giving them trade transit? If President Zardari thinks that India is not a threat to Pakistan then he must be immediately removed from the Presidency for mental incapacity, as he himself admitted having suffering from irreversible and untreatable shrinking of brain disease dementia?
Since 2005 anti-Pakistan right wing Indian Star TV was running a campaign for the release of an Indian spy and terrorist Surbjiit Singh imprisoned for various bombings and killing and injuring of innocent men, women, and children in Pakistan. Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard a former US Navy analyst serving his life sentence in US prison. US has refused to release Jonathan Pollard who is now an Israeli Citizen and spied for Israel for ten years. Pollard only spied for USs closet friend but Surbjiit Singh was involved in the killings of innocent people in Pakistan. If people who conspired to kill President Musharraf could be hang why an enemy spy and terrorist should go free for the crimes against Pakistan?
Pakistans Supreme Court upheld a death sentence imposed on an Indian spy and terrorist for a bombing that killed four people in 1990, court officials said on 27th September 2005. The court rejected an appeal by Sarabjit Singh, whose relatives in India along with the government have called on Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf to review the case.
It was the last of four petitions filed by Singh relating to different cases including terrorism and espionage. The Supreme Court dismissed the other three. The appeal related to Singhs conviction on terrorism charges by a lower court for a July 1990 bomb blast in Lahore in which a woman and three men were killed.
On the other hand in November 1985, the FBI arrested Jonathan Pollard, a U.S. Navy intelligence analyst, on charges of selling classified material to Israel. Pollard was subsequently sentenced to life imprisonment. His wife, Anne, got five years in jail for assisting her husband.
Immediately upon Pollards arrest, Israel apologized and explained that the operation was unauthorized. It is Israels policy to refrain from any intelligence activity related to the United States, an official government statement declared, in view of the close and special relationship of friendship between two countries. Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres stated: Spying on the United States stands in total contradiction to our policy.

In November 1995, Israel granted Jonathan Pollard Israeli citizenship. This publicly signalled to the US, Israels willingness to accept full responsibility for Pollard. On May 12, 1998, Israel formally acknowledged Jonathan Pollard was an official Israeli agent. This fact wiped out any remaining doubt about Jonathan Pollards motives. Being an official agent is, by definition, the polar opposite of being a mercenary. In the same May 12, 1998 statement, the Government of Israel publicly acknowledged full responsibility for Jonathan Pollard, and indicated its commitment to his immediate repatriation to Israel. Four Prime Ministers and three Presidents of Israel have all personally requested Jonathan Pollards release from the Presidents of the US. Each one pledged to be personally responsible for their agent who has now served 15 years in prison under harsh conditions, and who has fully expressed his remorse. Israel has officially acknowledged for the first time that an American Jew, Jonathan Pollard, who was arrested in the United States 13 years ago, was one of its spies, reported BBC on 12th May 1998. Pollard, a former intelligence analyst for the United States Navy, is serving a life sentence in North Carolina for passing classified military documents to Israel. Until now, the Israeli authorities had always denied that Pollard was working under their direction.
The admission came in a statement from Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahus office, and acknowledged that he was handled by high- ranking officials in a scientific relations bureau. In light of this fact, the State of Israel acknowledges its obligation to Mr Pollard and is ready to accept full responsibility accordingly, the statement said.
It said that Pollard had agreed to drop a petition pending in Israels Supreme Court asking for a formal recognition that he was indeed an agent in exchange for the announcement. I am relieved, thankful, and honoured, Pollards wife Esther told the Associated Press news agency by telephone from her home in Toronto, Canada. The admission came on the eve of a visit by Mr Netanyahu to the United States to meet Jewish leaders and the Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Israeli media reported that a government committee set up by Mr Netanyahu was working out a plan to recognise Pollard as a spy and work for his release.
Several government ministers have visited Pollard in jail this past year, raising speculation that the government was taking his case more seriously. Pollard has been granted Israeli citizenship and his lawyer believes the public acknowledgment will help chances for a pardon. In November 1985, while on the run from the US authorities, Pollard sought refuge at the Israeli Embassy in Washington, but was refused entry. Mrs Pollard has said the information her husband gave Israel over a decade ago was about the build-up of arms in neighbouring countries that some American officials did not want Israel to have. On 24th August 2004 CNN reported, The FBI has evidence that a person who has been working at high levels in the Pentagon may be a spy for Israel, senior U.S. officials have confirmed to CNN reported on 28th August 2004. The alleged mole working for Israel could have been in a position to influence Bush administration policy toward Iran and Iraq, one of the officials said.
Ansar Burney as interim Human Rights Minister, campaigned for the release of another Indian prisoner arrested and convicted for spying, declared his real identity as a spy in a press conference in India soon after his release.
Irony is we have not heard any protests from Ansar Burney, Asma Jahangir, I A Rehman, Imtiaz Alam and other human rights activists regarding the illegal detention without trial and handover of Dr Afia Siddiqui to the US?

US president Franklin D Roosevelt once remarked of Nicaraguas dictator, Somoza may be a son of a *****, but hes our son of a *****. So when a later Somoza (the son of our son of a *****) was overthrown in 1979, we spared no effort until Nicaragua was ours again. When President Carter saw that the younger Somozas days were numbered, he tried to ease him out of power, unaware that retired CIA agents were providing him with further weaponry. Carters plan was to keep Somozas private army, the National Guard, in power, while Somoza escaped to enjoy his $900 million fortune.
Nicaragua: The CIAs Greatest Hits by Mark Zepezauer. US need not worry as Dr Afridi will be free soon because there is no shortage of Samozas in Pakistan?
 
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nomishah

Senator (1k+ posts)
He is just a tool been used and may be mis used i still believe there was no obl in that building and if there was then our army is the biggest traitor who took oath of country's security and were sleeping when country was raided that night and now our beloved COAS reopened NATO supplies shame for such nuclear armed forces .
 

Bombaybuz

Minister (2k+ posts)
In intelligence system they most impotent thing in any mission or in any set up or for any individual's disguise is THE STORY and to fill colors in that OBL drama sketch dr afridi was just a pawn ... who was used and thrown away ... as far as resumption of NATO suppy is concern i always said on this forum that no metter what they will start working on same only salary ... not because they didn't have balls but ... actually this is how the slaves mind works ... they are there just because of america and they think only america can save them from america's anger ... they will tell you that there is no much hidden there is so much which cannot be make public but end of the day ... You stand only and only for your self respect when you believe that you are on firm solid ground of truth and when that belief is not there then all this happens ... sher bhe jeeta hai aur kuuutta bhe ... fana dono k leya hai lakin jaza apni apni ...
 

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Our Son of a *****’ Dr Shakeel Afridi?

Yeh koi bachaa too naheen thaa keh unhoon nay issay behlaa lia,achaa khasaa insaan samajhdar thaa aoor doctor bhee apnay buray bhalay koo achee tarah samajh saktaa thaa,
Phir bhee bikk gayaa,aisay insaan koo kia kahain gay jiss koo apnay mulk aoor qoom kay waqar bhee EHSASS na hoo.
 

anyie1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
there was no OBL in abbottabad,. he was already dead and his body was with ISI, it was all drama staged by ISI and CIA to end OBL search,,,,,
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
there was no OBL in abbottabad,. he was already dead and his body was with ISI, it was all drama staged by ISI and CIA to end OBL search,,,,,

If ISI has the body why don't they come out with it? why take tha shame?
 

staray khaatir

Minister (2k+ posts)
In intelligence system they most impotent thing in any mission or in any set up or for any individual's disguise is THE STORY and to fill colors in that OBL drama sketch dr afridi was just a pawn ... who was used and thrown away ... as far as resumption of NATO suppy is concern i always said on this forum that no metter what they will start working on same only salary ... not because they didn't have balls but ... actually this is how the slaves mind works ... they are there just because of america and they think only america can save them from america's anger ... they will tell you that there is no much hidden there is so much which cannot be make public but end of the day ... You stand only and only for your self respect when you believe that you are on firm solid ground of truth and when that belief is not there then all this happens ... sher bhe jeeta hai aur kuuutta bhe ... fana dono k leya hai lakin jaza apni apni ...
i totally agree with you,these pakistani intelligence people are the most impotent in this country.
 

TruPakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
they handed over the body to americans during the raid in abbotabad....

Did you see the body?
How long did ISI have the body of OBL?

Can you share any proof that the "body" (if there was any) was of OBL and was handed over to the US by ISI in the raid.

OBL died in 2007 due to a medical condition, and he was buried (location not disclosed).
 

saleema

Senator (1k+ posts)
Why don't we hand over those army personnel to the US who were hiding OBL? Why Shakeel in prison? If OBL was officially considered and announced as a enemy then kill those traitor army generals who were hiding him and reward Shakeel If they cant then handover to the US they will..
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
He should not be handed over to the US but we need to get to the bottom of this. I am sure that if this Dr. cooperated he did it without even knowing what he was getting himself involved into. CIA is not stupid to spill the beans to an average doctor and sabotage their mission. He probably was being used without him knowing exactly what was the larger objective and what the actual ruse was. The whole problem I see with this episode is how the trial was conducted. I am sure that it would have exposed the ineptitude of our intelligence and law enforcement agencies. I am sure Dr. Afridi is being used as an escape goat to cover up the follies of others. The burden of the proof is on the state to show that the doctor did what he did with full knowledge of what he was getting himself involved with. As with most other things the truth will never come out.

The americans are idiots - its them who leaked the information about the doctor and now they are trying to do face saving for future recruits for their spying activities.
 
And sun still revolve earth. congrats on attending Janaza of Expat Saudi in 2007
Did you see the body?

How long did ISI have the body of OBL?

Can you share any proof that the "body" (if there was any) was of OBL and was handed over to the US by ISI in the raid.

OBL died in 2007 due to a medical condition, and he was buried (location not disclosed).
 

aq.inqalabi

Senator (1k+ posts)
yahi kaam koi werdi wala kerta to zabardast! ......... aur yahi kam kisi baghair werdi walae nae kerdia to ghaddar!...... civi kerae to sala character dheela hae ;)

baat to sach hae per baat hae ruswae ki (thumbsdown)
 

OnlyPK

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
is bnda ka sukriya ada krn ke bjaye, isi ko jail me daal dia hy, vry sad, is bnday ne to us haramzady ko pekerwaya tha.....I Salute this dude (clap)