Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq

Zain Itrat

Minister (2k+ posts)
For My ISIS Jahadi Brothers On The Forum.

Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq

The sectarian terror group won’t be defeated by the western states that incubated it in the first place
By
Seumas Milne
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The war on terror, that campaign without end launched 14 years ago by George Bush, is tying itself up in ever more grotesque contortions. On Monday the trial in London of a Swedish man, Bherlin Gildo, accused of terrorism in Syria, collapsed after it became clear British intelligence had been arming the same rebel groups the defendant was charged with supporting.

The prosecution abandoned the case, apparently to avoid embarrassing the intelligence services. The defence argued that going ahead withthe trial would have been an “affront to justice” when there was plenty of evidence the British state was itself providing “extensive support” to the armed Syrian opposition.

That didn’t only include the “non-lethal assistance” boasted of by the government (including body armour and military vehicles), but training, logistical support and the secret supply of “arms on a massive scale”. Reports were cited that MI6 had cooperated with the CIA on a “rat line” of arms transfers from Libyan stockpiles to the Syrian rebels in 2012 after the fall of the Gaddafi regime.

Clearly, the absurdity of sending someone to prison for doing what ministers and their security officials were up to themselves became too much. But it’s only the latest of a string of such cases. Less fortunate was a London cab driver Anis Sardar, who was given a life sentence a fortnight earlier for taking part in 2007 in resistance to the occupation of Iraq by US and British forces. Armed opposition to illegal invasion and occupation clearly doesn’t constitute terrorism or murder on most definitions, including the Geneva convention.

But terrorism is now squarely in the eye of the beholder. And nowhere is that more so than in the Middle East, where today’s terrorists are tomorrow’s fighters against tyranny – and allies are enemies – often at the bewildering whim of a western policymaker’s conference call.

For the past year, US, British and other western forces have been back in Iraq, supposedly in the cause of destroying the hyper-sectarian terror group Islamic State (formerly known as al-Qaida in Iraq). This was after Isis overran huge chunks of Iraqi and Syrian territory and proclaimed a self-styled Islamic caliphate.
The campaign isn’t going well. Last month, Isis rolled into the Iraqi city of Ramadi, while on the other side of the now nonexistent border its forces conquered the Syrian town of Palmyra. Al-Qaida’s official franchise, the Nusra Front, has also been making gains in Syria.


Some Iraqis complain that the US sat on its hands while all this was going on. The Americans insist they are trying to avoid civilian casualties, and claim significant successes. Privately, officials say they don’t want to be seen hammering Sunni strongholds in a sectarian war and risk upsetting their Sunni allies in the Gulf.

A revealing light on how we got here has now been shone by a recently declassified secret US intelligence report, written in August 2012, which uncannily predicts – and effectively welcomes – the prospect of a “Salafist principality” in eastern Syria and an al-Qaida-controlled Islamic state in Syria and Iraq. In stark contrast to western claims at the time, the Defense Intelligence Agency document identifies al-Qaida in Iraq (which became Isis) and fellow Salafists as the “major forces driving the insurgency in Syria” – and states that “western countries, the Gulf states and Turkey” were supporting the opposition’s efforts to take control of eastern Syria.

Raising the “possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality”, the Pentagon report goes on, “this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran)”.

American forces bomb one set of rebels while backing another in Syria


Which is pretty well exactly what happened two years later. The report isn’t a policy document. It’s heavily redacted and there are ambiguities in the language. But the implications are clear enough. A year into the Syrian rebellion, the US and its allies weren’t only supporting and arming an opposition they knew to be dominated by extreme sectarian groups; they were prepared to countenance the creation of some sort of “Islamic state” – despite the “grave danger” to Iraq’s unity – as a Sunni buffer to weaken Syria.

That doesn’t mean the US created Isis, of course, though some of its Gulf allies certainly played a role in it – as the US vice-president, Joe Biden, acknowledged last year. But there was no al-Qaida in Iraq until the US and Britain invaded. And the US has certainly exploited the existence of Isis against other forces in the region as part of a wider drive to maintain western control.

The calculus changed when Isis started beheading westerners and posting atrocities online, and the Gulf states are now backing other groups in the Syrian war, such as the Nusra Front. But this US and western habit of playing with jihadi groups, which then come back to bite them, goes back at least to the 1980s war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, which fostered the original al-Qaida under CIA tutelage.

It was recalibrated during the occupation of Iraq, when US forces led by General Petraeus sponsored an El Salvador-style dirty war of sectarian death squads to weaken the Iraqi resistance. And it was reprised in 2011 in the Nato-orchestrated war in Libya, where Isis last week took control of Gaddafi’s home town of Sirte.

In reality, US and western policy in the conflagration that is now the Middle East is in the classic mould of imperial divide-and-rule. American forces bomb one set of rebels while backing another in Syria, and mount what are effectively joint military operations with Iran against Isis in Iraq while supporting Saudi Arabia’s military campaign against Iranian-backed Houthi forces in Yemen. However confused US policy may often be, a weak, partitioned Iraq and Syria fit such an approach perfectly.

What’s clear is that Isis and its monstrosities won’t be defeated by the same powers that brought it to Iraq and Syria in the first place, or whose open and covert war-making has fostered it in the years since. Endless western military interventions in the Middle East have brought only destruction and division. It’s the people of the region who can cure this disease – not those who incubated the virus.

Published In The Guardian
 
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Diriyah

Banned
Why blame any one....

Saudi, UAE and Qatar provide money, Turkey being the Gate way. Jordan currently back tracking on its action. Arms and explosive coming from Libya.
Zakat, Sadqa and HASBE TAWFEEK KHAIRAT coming from people of Kuwait.

more than 30 Countries providing men and women to kill or be killed in the name of some obscured Religious doctrine.

Why blame others... Till the time So called Islamic world seem interested in watching this show, gate money is there... the show will go one.

DO not blame People of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Nigeria Egypt, Pakistan Afghanistan... they are fighting for there Survival.
 
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AakhirKab

MPA (400+ posts)
For My ISIS Jahadi Brothers On The Forum

I am rather shocked by the first line. So we have people in this forum who are not only sympathetic to ISIS but may also do things to promote their image/message. ISIS is the worst folks on Earth as of now who kill in the name of Islam - the religion of peace!

Coming to the report itself, there are no surprises and/or revelations in it. Don't we already know proverbs like 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' and 'never burn your bridges in politics'. US, Europe and our brothers in Middle East helped anyone and everyone who they thought could bring Assad down. This is no secret. I believe the same group who was helped to bring Assad's regime down just got out of control later and becomes ISIS. It happens. It had happened before. Things do not always go the same way as planned. This is exactly what US did when they worked with/helped Northern Alliance in Afghanistan to bring Talibans down.

There is no question that US and Europe have supported certain groups to achieve some targets in certain countries and the history is full of these activities. We, third world countries, do the same to achieve our goals, on much smaller scale as per our capabilities. We talk about these conspiracy theories all the time and blame West for everything when we do the exact same thing when we are in their shoes. See Saudi Arabia, Jordan's role in Yemen.West would rather have their puppets controlling these countries for them as we saw in Egypt, Libya, Iraq, etc. in the past as it is much easier to deal with 'puppet governments' than controlling these groups.

I ask one simple question. Do you think US and Europe are safer now with groups like ISIS, Talibans, Al Shabab, Boko Haram, etc? Helping ISIS or Talibans or whoever will help West how in securing US and Europe? Once these groups become powerful as ISIS have become now, won't they reach out to their Masters? Just like we saw what happened in Paris, Copenhagen, Dallas, Tunis, etc. It is obvious as daylight that an unsafe Middle East or Asia is in no way a condition for a safer West.

God bless us all!!


 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
جمہوروں سے بھی سوال ہے افغانستان اور عراق میں امریکہ نے جس طرح جمہوریت کو مسلط کیا اس کا نتیجہ سب سے سامنے ہیں. کیا ابھی بھی وہ جمہوریت مسلط کرنے کے لئے امریکہ جان کی ہاں میں ہاں ملاتے رہیں گے
 

kkkkk

Minister (2k+ posts)
Look, nothing new here. It can easily be undestood with a little intelligence that what is happening in the Muslim world is planned in CIA Center in America. There are sabotage cells for every Muslim country in CIA which plan and execute terrorism. Otherwise, how could we find TTP, Boko Haram, Houtis, attacks in Central African Repulic, Kenya, Afghanitan, Iraq,Liby, Tunis, Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan, Kuwait, Saudia, etc,overnight. The evidence to this fact should also surface over time.
 

Freedomlover

Minister (2k+ posts)
[h=1]U.S., allies conduct 14 air strikes in Syria, nine in Iraq - military[/h]https://trove.com/a/US-allies-conduct-14-air-strikes-in-Syria-nine-in-Iraq---military.29gWR?nocrawl=1&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=sns&utm_campaign=hosted

Crusaders and its allies are conducting 20 to 30 airstrike dailty against IS, More then 1000 in less then in year but the idiot zombies still repeat the same cry thay they are the agents of USA. Lollllllllll
 

Wasiq

MPA (400+ posts)
There is no democracy in USA, if Pakistani media thinks in USA has democracy they are stupid and idiot.
 

AakhirKab

MPA (400+ posts)
جمہوروں سے بھی سوال ہے افغانستان اور عراق میں امریکہ نے جس طرح جمہوریت کو مسلط کیا اس کا نتیجہ سب سے سامنے ہیں. کیا ابھی بھی وہ جمہوریت مسلط کرنے کے لئے امریکہ جان کی ہاں میں ہاں ملاتے رہیں گے

US/West is no angel. However, no efforts can be successful unless the people of the country have sincerity and best interests for their country and nothing else. Be it Iraq, Afghanistan or any other Muslim country, we are so divided on the basis of religion, language, sects, caste, etc. that the national interest comes not even close. Nothing can be successful in that case.

Look at all the Eastern European and Baltic nations. How they were able to succeed and some of them have even better GDP than Russia. They are not perfect but a lot better than lots of Muslim countries. They kept their country on the forefront. Everything else comes later.

As always, instead of looking at our own weaknesses, it is much easier to blame West. This is what we have done in the past and seems like, from your post, we did not learn much now either.

God bless us all!!
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
US/West is no angel. However, no efforts can be successful unless the people of the country have sincerity and best interests for their country and nothing else. Be it Iraq, Afghanistan or any other Muslim country, we are so divided on the basis of religion, language, sects, caste, etc. that the national interest comes not even close. Nothing can be successful in that case.

Look at all the Eastern European and Baltic nations. How they were able to succeed and some of them have even better GDP than Russia. They are not perfect but a lot better than lots of Muslim countries. They kept their country on the forefront. Everything else comes later.

As always, instead of looking at our own weaknesses, it is much easier to blame West. This is what we have done in the past and seems like, from your post, we did not learn much now either.

God bless us all!!
لیکن جمہورے جمہوریت کا نام سنتے ہیں لیٹ جاتے ہیں، بار بار کے تجربوں نے ثابت کیا ہے کے مغرب/امریکہ مسلم ممالک کے حکمرانوں کو بہانے بہانے سے کمزور کر کے مسلم ریاستوں کو عملا بے اثر کر رہا ہے

مغرب جو کرنا چاہتا ہے کر رہا ہے جمہوروں کو سوچنا چاہے وہ کیا کر رہا ہے
 

Zain Itrat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Yes it is unfortunate to have such people around here.
It is not that obvious for some people here. My brother freedom lover here is in allegiance to the new caliph and the caliphate of IS. This was solely for him. And he has disliked my post.
No system is perfect but your statement does not make any sense. Want to elaborate??
 
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Zain Itrat

Minister (2k+ posts)
[h=1]U.S., allies conduct 14 air strikes in Syria, nine in Iraq - military[/h]https://trove.com/a/US-allies-conduct-14-air-strikes-in-Syria-nine-in-Iraq---military.29gWR?nocrawl=1&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=sns&utm_campaign=hosted

Crusaders and its allies are conducting 20 to 30 airstrike dailty against IS, More then 1000 in less then in year but the idiot zombies still repeat the same cry thay they are the agents of USA. Lollllllllll

That's exactly is the plan dude. Fund them grow them kill them and keep the show running. Keep the arm business booming.. keep the Muslims apologetic for the deeds of this self installed terrorist militia, and smearing the institution of Khalifa. But you are so naive to get that. Either you are too innocent or either you know everything and are part of the plan.
 

Freedomlover

Minister (2k+ posts)
That's exactly is the plan dude. Fund them grow them kill them and keep the show running. Keep the arm business booming.. keep the Muslims apologetic for the deeds of this self installed terrorist militia, and smearing the institution of Khalifa. But you are so naive to get that. Either you are too innocent or either you know everything and are part of the plan.

Let me illustrate the current situation for, conspiracy theorists, confused minds, layman and those new to politics.

 
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Freedomlover

Minister (2k+ posts)
. امام شافعیؒ سے پوچھا گیا فتنوں کےدورمیں حق کسطرح معلوم ہوگا؟
فرمایا:اللہ اور اسکے رسول ﷺ کےدشمنوں کے تیروں کا رخ دیکھ لینا جہاں یہ تیر گریں وہی اھل الحق ہونگے۔
آج دیکھ لو کفار ویسٹرن ممالک کے تیر مزائل اور ڈرون کہاں پر بمباری کرتے ہیں
 

mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
لیکن جمہورے جمہوریت کا نام سنتے ہیں لیٹ جاتے ہیں، بار بار کے تجربوں نے ثابت کیا ہے کے مغرب/امریکہ مسلم ممالک کے حکمرانوں کو بہانے بہانے سے کمزور کر کے مسلم ریاستوں کو عملا بے اثر کر رہا ہے

مغرب جو کرنا چاہتا ہے کر رہا ہے جمہوروں کو سوچنا چاہے وہ کیا کر رہا ہے

اس خطے کے مسائل کا واحد حل "جمہوریت" ہی ہے۔
مگر امریکہ ہی ہے جو سعودیہ کے پیسے سے طالبان جیسے فسادی جہادی پیدا کرتا ہے۔ یہ فسادی جہادی ملک میں جمہوریت کی اقدار مضبوط نہیں ہونے دیتے اورریاست اور اسکے جمہوری نظام کو کمزور کرتے رہتے ہیں۔
یہی حال عراق کا ہے، جہاں طالبان کی جگہ امریکہ القاعدہ اور اسکے ہزاروں خود کش حملوں کو عراقی ریاست اور اسکی جمہوریت کو کمزور کرنے کے لیے استعمال کرتا رہا۔

جمہوریت کے علاوہ اور کوئی نظام نہیں ہے جو اس خطے کی ترقی کا ضامن ہو۔ متبادل نظام فقط ملا عمر کی خلافت ہے یا پھر داعش کے ملا بغدادی کی خونی خلافت۔ تیسرا آپشن سعودیہ کی بادشاہت ہے۔


 

Freedomlover

Minister (2k+ posts)
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[/h] [h=3]فرانسیسی میگزین کا امیر المومنین پرٹائٹل بعنوان:’’ وہ آدمی جو پوری دنیا سے لڑرہا ہے۔‘‘[/h]
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اے خلیفۃ المسلمین! آپ نے ان کو دہشت میں مبتلا کردیا۔ فرانسیسی میگزین کا امیر المومنین ابوبکر البغدادی پرٹائٹل بعنوان:
’’ وہ آدمی جو پوری دنیا سے لڑرہا ہے۔‘‘
میگزین لی پوائنٹ کے اس شمارے میں بتایا گیا کہ دولتِ اسلامیہ کس طرح امریکہ سمیت تمام دنیا سے لڑرہی ہے اور کس طرح خلیفۃ المسلمین ساری دنیا کی طاقتوں سے تنہا ( اللہ کے فضل اور اس کی مدد سے) لڑرہے ہیں۔
دولت اسلامیہ کا نہ کوئی ملک اتحادی ہے اور نہ ہی اس کی کوئی مدد کرنے والا ہے۔
سارے ممالک سے دولت اسلامیہ لڑرہی ہے اور عالمی اتحاد دولت اسلامیہ پر ہر طرح کی بمباری کرنے کے باوجود اسے شکست دینے میں ناکامی سے دوچار ہونے کا اعتراف صلیبیوں کے بیانات کی روشنی میں واضح کیا گیا۔
اس فرانسیسی میگزین کے اس شمارے کو یہاں سے پڑھیں:
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