"No apology, no supplies", Gen. Kayani tells Gen. Allen (ISAF)

Agarwal

Councller (250+ posts)
General Kayani to (ISAF) General Allen: “No Apology, No Supplies!”

Posted: 28 Jun 2012 12:32 AM PDT
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COAS Gen. Ashfaq Pervez Kayani
ISLAMABAD - The ongoing spate of tension between Pakistan and the United States of Zionism over NATO supplies resumption might not see an immediate diffusion with no headway to this effect been made during a meeting between two top military commanders yesterday (Wednesday). “No apology, no supplies,” was the military’s perspective during the said meeting as described by the officials at a classified organization. Commander International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) General Allen arrived in Rawalpindi on Wednesday to meet Pakistan’s Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on the pretext of discussing border coordination.

The meeting, which, according to informed officials, largely discussed the deadlock over the restoration of NATO supplies as well as recurrence of cross-border incursions from Afghan side, remained inconclusive on the former issue, following reiteration from Pakistani side of demand for a formal apology from Washington over last year’s Salala incident. According to the reported details, General Allen Wednesday landed at Chaklala Base, Rawalpindi at around 4:30pm. He proceeded to the USZ Embassy in Islamabad and met with the senior officials of the Office of Defense Representative to Pakistan (ODR-P) and the USZ Embassy’s Defense Attach Office (DAO) before meeting with General Kayani at General Headquarters (GHQ) in Rawalpindi.

Apart from contentious issues, the two generals also discussed the working of Border Coordination Committee (BCC) that administers the Border Coordination Centers set up across Fata and jointly monitored by Pakistan Army, NATO-led Isaf and Afghan National Army. Continuing the enhanced coordination between the Liaison Officers (LOs), Patrolling Officers (POs) and Border Coordinates (BCs) of the three sides to eliminate cross-border incursions was agreed upon. However, any progress on breaking the impasse over NATO supplies was reported to have remained stalled.

In addition, deadly skirmishes between regular Pakistan Army troops, Frontier Corps (FC) and Afghan militants were reported last week in Upper and Lower Dir. Continued from Friday to Sunday, the incursions cost Pakistan the lives of its 13 men, while 14 alleged miscreants were also killed in the fighting. Gen Allen, officials said, informed Gen Kayani of having launched an investigation into the Dir skirmishes, to be probed by Isaf’s internal intelligence. Besides, the Isaf commander is said to have formally assured his Pakistani counterpart that military offensive against miscreants in Kunar and Nuristan province would be scaled up with relevant updates to be shared with Pakistan regularly.

Last month when reports of resumption of NATO supplies ahead of Chicago summit had surfaced, The Nation had reported that Pakistan and Western military commanders had failed to make headway on crucial contentious issues, particularly the resumption of NATO supplies. This was printed on May 13 in the story “Generals fail to untie key knots at tripartite forum.” The Isaf delegation headed by General John Allen and accompanied by its Afghan military counterparts had arrived in Pakistan on May 12 in connection with Tripartite Commission meeting but had mainly discussed restoring NATO supplies. Purportedly, the Western commanders had ‘warned’ Islamabad then to face ‘other set of options’ in case NATO supplies were not resumed.

Earlier in February, the commanders from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Western military alliance had met in Torkham to discuss border coordination. General Kayani had not attended the meeting while Director General Military Operations (MO) Major General Ishfaq Nadeem had led Pakistani delegation. Pakistan’s military is said to have conveyed its acceptance to an apology from NATO if Washington was not willing to tender one. Both the sides looked to have been nearing a settlement till last week before the USZ Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta ruled out the possibility of apologizing over Salala attack in an interview with Reuters. Credible defense quarters in Islamabad were unanimous in contending that the USZ apology was forthcoming.

In an informal interaction with journalists some days back, Senate Standing Committee on Defense and Defense Production Chairman Mushahid Hussain Sayed believed Washington was left with no option but to offer an apology over Salala episode. “Apology is the only issue that matters now. Other issues are settled,” he had said, hoping that the USZ would tender one soon.
 
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zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: General Kayani to Mullen: No Apology, No Supplies!

“No Apology, No Supplies!”

Is this a real reply from kiani to Mullen?
OR
A massage only for pakistani to belive?
 

Agarwal

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: General Kayani to Mullen: No Apology, No Supplies!

“No Apology, No Supplies!”

Is this a real reply from kiani to Mullen?
OR
A massage only for pakistani to belive?

This a real reply from kiani to Mullen

 

khan afghan1

Minister (2k+ posts)
Sorry to say for Kiyani but he is the man who facilitated the NRO between
these corrupt politicians(Mafia).The threat to Pakistanis not from US or
any other country but the internal situation in the country.look at the
president,now PM and the whole of the cabinet what a joke is all this.
The whole of the population is suffering and waiting for Maseeha to come.
Army is as responsible as the politicians.We need leader who can take stand
on national security and defend national interest on every forum.Our PM is
property dealer.can we expect something bold from him or present cabinet or
parliment.
 

Bombaybuz

Minister (2k+ posts)
Pakistan aaj jahan khara hai us main kiyani sahab ka bhe haath he nahi ankhain kaan aur demagh bhe hai ... NRO k baad is khokhli jamhoriyat sai kya hasil karna chahatey they woh bhe moosouf he bata saktey nahi hain ... lakin khali khooli maafi ??? us sai kya hoga ??? 5000$/ container ka kya hua ... Im not saying k khool de jaye suppy lakin sirf mafi pay kholney sai tou 5000$ ley k kholna aacha ... ka kam az kam un roads ki he kuch repair ho jayee woh baardaad ho gaye is suply k chaker main ... uppar sai jo suicide bombing shuru hogi in major cites woh alag .. Tab mujha tou kuch dum nahi feel hota is baat main k No apology No supply ... K 4 din baad phir hum poori thkhawh pay kam shuru ker dain gey aur 100 pyazoon aur 100 jooton wala cycle complete ho jaye ga.
 

nostalgic

MPA (400+ posts)
come out of the world of dreams...nothing is gonna happen...no one is gonna appology...and supply will be resumed soon...
if kiyani had balls this would never happen.
 

ranaji

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
come out of the world of dreams...nothing is gonna happen...no one is gonna appology...and supply will be resumed soon...
if kiyani had balls this would never happen.
abb intazar karen aur maloom bhi ho jaiga keh baal hain yaa nahi
 

InsafianPTI

Minister (2k+ posts)
you wanted kiyaani to stand against this all alone when pakistan's last govt, all the political leaders, media and most of all west wanted to do this deal?
don't forget BB and nawaaz were damn popular then, after musharraf's coup and his sort of failed rule (not as failed as this one but still failed) I don't think he had any choice.
I am not defending him, but I'm telling you another scenario.
Who finalize the NRO?
Our problem is we stick with personalities not with interest of the country.
Who is running this country today?what scandals we can see in the news?
My loyalty is not with personalities but with the state.
 

islamabadi6

Councller (250+ posts)

General Kayani to (ISAF) General Allen: No Apology, No Supplies!

Posted: 28 Jun 2012 12:32 AM PDT
no-apology-no-supplies-gen-kayani-tells-allen-1340834613-2995.jpg

COAS Gen. Ashfaq Pervez Kayani
ISLAMABAD - The ongoing spate of tension between Pakistan and the United States of Zionism over NATO supplies resumption might not see an immediate diffusion with no headway to this effect been made during a meeting between two top military commanders yesterday (Wednesday). No apology, no supplies, was the militarys perspective during the said meeting as described by the officials at a classified organization. Commander International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) General Allen arrived in Rawalpindi on Wednesday to meet Pakistans Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on the pretext of discussing border coordination.

The meeting, which, according to informed officials, largely discussed the deadlock over the restoration of NATO supplies as well as recurrence of cross-border incursions from Afghan side, remained inconclusive on the former issue, following reiteration from Pakistani side of demand for a formal apology from Washington over last years Salala incident. According to the reported details, General Allen Wednesday landed at Chaklala Base, Rawalpindi at around 4:30pm. He proceeded to the USZ Embassy in Islamabad and met with the senior officials of the Office of Defense Representative to Pakistan (ODR-P) and the USZ Embassys Defense Attach Office (DAO) before meeting with General Kayani at General Headquarters (GHQ) in Rawalpindi.

Apart from contentious issues, the two generals also discussed the working of Border Coordination Committee (BCC) that administers the Border Coordination Centers set up across Fata and jointly monitored by Pakistan Army, NATO-led Isaf and Afghan National Army. Continuing the enhanced coordination between the Liaison Officers (LOs), Patrolling Officers (POs) and Border Coordinates (BCs) of the three sides to eliminate cross-border incursions was agreed upon. However, any progress on breaking the impasse over NATO supplies was reported to have remained stalled.

In addition, deadly skirmishes between regular Pakistan Army troops, Frontier Corps (FC) and Afghan militants were reported last week in Upper and Lower Dir. Continued from Friday to Sunday, the incursions cost Pakistan the lives of its 13 men, while 14 alleged miscreants were also killed in the fighting. Gen Allen, officials said, informed Gen Kayani of having launched an investigation into the Dir skirmishes, to be probed by Isafs internal intelligence. Besides, the Isaf commander is said to have formally assured his Pakistani counterpart that military offensive against miscreants in Kunar and Nuristan province would be scaled up with relevant updates to be shared with Pakistan regularly.

Last month when reports of resumption of NATO supplies ahead of Chicago summit had surfaced, The Nation had reported that Pakistan and Western military commanders had failed to make headway on crucial contentious issues, particularly the resumption of NATO supplies. This was printed on May 13 in the story Generals fail to untie key knots at tripartite forum. The Isaf delegation headed by General John Allen and accompanied by its Afghan military counterparts had arrived in Pakistan on May 12 in connection with Tripartite Commission meeting but had mainly discussed restoring NATO supplies. Purportedly, the Western commanders had warned Islamabad then to face other set of options in case NATO supplies were not resumed.

Earlier in February, the commanders from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Western military alliance had met in Torkham to discuss border coordination. General Kayani had not attended the meeting while Director General Military Operations (MO) Major General Ishfaq Nadeem had led Pakistani delegation. Pakistans military is said to have conveyed its acceptance to an apology from NATO if Washington was not willing to tender one. Both the sides looked to have been nearing a settlement till last week before the USZ Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta ruled out the possibility of apologizing over Salala attack in an interview with Reuters. Credible defense quarters in Islamabad were unanimous in contending that the USZ apology was forthcoming.

In an informal interaction with journalists some days back, Senate Standing Committee on Defense and Defense Production Chairman Mushahid Hussain Sayed believed Washington was left with no option but to offer an apology over Salala episode. Apology is the only issue that matters now. Other issues are settled, he had said, hoping that the USZ would tender one soon.

ABout 2 weeks back, there were at least 20 threads claiming the opening of NATO supplies were "imminent"...all of the thread starters (you know who dumba$$es are) should be ashamed of spreading false unfounded information. This is all you get on this site...rumours rumours no actual news just rumours and quotations from someone's blogs....
 

Hathamreborn

MPA (400+ posts)
''No punishment, no supplies'' that would be the reply from a real General, but this pofta could say wht apart from this and those @sshole planted media persons are doin this sort of job... shame on both
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: General Kayani to Mullen: No Apology, No Supplies!

This a real reply from kiani to Mullen


“No Apology, No Supplies!”

Is this a real reply from kiani to Mullen?
OR
A massage only for pakistani to belive?

Murshad add another demand after they rub their nose on ground i.e. Checking of NATO containers.......and supply of only food and daily use items.....Nothing related to arms and ammunition should be allowed.

Laqta hay........Qudsiyoon ka Shair hoshiyar ho raha hay..


........ Chawinday ka Choudhry bhi dhoti kas kay badhay baitha hay.....huqah pa kay....hein ji:)
 

sabir1

Senator (1k+ posts)
come out of the world of dreams...nothing is gonna happen...no one is gonna appology...and supply will be resumed soon...
if kiyani had balls this would never happen.

right on spot. really if kiyani has balls this would never happen. abb laho laga keh shaheed banana chah rahe hain

 

onlykami

MPA (400+ posts)
Bohot be.gha.irat general hai, apni maon behnon aur bachon k khoon ka badla sirf "maafi". General tu wo hotay hain jo apni behan per zyadti ho tu fauj lay kar char jatay hain dushman per (Muhammad Bin Qasim). Allah inhain aur is qoum ko ankhain kholnay ki taufeeq ata farma ... ameen