Netherlands to abolish blasphemy law

Babatank

Senator (1k+ posts)
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Published: 30 November, 2012, 06:18

Dutch parliament approves a motion to scrap law that made insulting God a crime. The move is welcomed by freedom of speech supporters and confirms anti-Islamists right to criticize religion.
The blasphemy law is no longer relevant in the 21st century, a majority of Dutch parties stated. This law has not been in use for more than half a century, Dutch MPs added.
Liberal parties predominance in the current Dutch parliament has made the repeal of the 1930s law possible, with the same motion blocked by Christian political partys allies back in 2008.
The issue was brought to the attention of the parliament following the 2011 Geert Wilders case.
Wilders, a far-right anti-Islam MP, was acquitted after facing trial on charges of inciting hatred and discriminations against Muslims. The judge ruled Wilders comparisons of Islam to fascism acceptable, allowing further criticism despite it insulting Muslims.
The blasphemy law abolition was welcomed by freedom rights activists across the globe as a victory.However the decision was dubbed as a painful loss of a moral anchor and a symptom of a spiritual crisis by Dutch Christian SGP party, media reported.
It is still illegal to insult police officers or the countrys monarch under the Dutch law.
Many European countries still have blasphemy laws restricting freedom of expression, rights activists say. Others have replaced such laws with more general legislation criminalizing religious hatred.
The UK has annulled its blasphemy law, replacing it with the Racial and Religious Hatred Act in 2007. The new law implies a prison term of up to seven years and an unlimited fine for the intention of stirring up religious hatred.
Ireland stood out by introducing a new blasphemy law in 2010, instead of abolishing it. The recent Irish Defamation Act makes publication or utterance of blasphemous matter punishable by a fine of up to 25,000.
Although such laws have not been invoked for decades in most of Europe, there remain some countries where charges on grounds of religious hatred have often been exercised.
In Poland causing offense to religious feelings is considered a crime, even though there is no separate blasphemy law as such. Several cases of people charged with violating the Polish criminal code for religious offence have attracted media attention over the last decade.
In 2008 a Finnish court sentenced the far right activist Seppo Lehto, to two years and fourth months in jail for defamation, inciting ethnic hatred and religious blasphemy against Islam.

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tariisb

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
blssphemy law , found ever where in its own shape , every nation has its on do and do nots , even britains queen ,balthakray has same protection so why not GOD and Messengers or saints ???
 

Unicorn

Banned
blssphemy law , found ever where in its own shape , every nation has its on do and do nots , even britains queen ,balthakray has same protection so why not GOD and Messengers or saints ???

Queen is a head of state and an institution the queen under the constitution required to sign a law passed by the people reps its not the other way round.

Bal Thakray is not protected and India is not a comparison to Netherlands.
 
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AsifAmeer

Siasat.pk - Blogger
hmm..

Here's how I look at it.

I start off with the assumption that ANY MATTER the Govt touches, can only get ugly.

With that said, I do not want the Govt making SOCIAL laws. Suppose, if my employee berates our Prophet Muhammed SAW, I as am employer will take the liberty to share with him the principles of the Prophets SAW and his stand against injustice. If the employee continues to insult out of bigotry, I'd warn him and then fire him.

A social problem cannot be fixed via legislation but has to be dealt with socially.
 

AsifAmeer

Siasat.pk - Blogger
I think you are mixing RELIGION with RELIGIOUS people.

For e.g. I would not criticize any Hindu god. Why? coz I honestly dont care, nor do i know enough to criticize.

Criticism arises with someone is treated unequally because of his faith, color, creed, cast, gender.

Criticism of Molana Fazal-ur-Rehman or Pope FOR HIS ACTIONS, is a fair deal.


Its about time to stop persecuting people for criticizing god or religions.
 

Unicorn

Banned
I think you are mixing RELIGION with RELIGIOUS people.

For e.g. I would not criticize any Hindu god. Why? coz I honestly dont care, nor do i know enough to criticize.

Criticism arises with someone is treated unequally because of his faith, color, creed, cast, gender.

Criticism of Molana Fazal-ur-Rehman or Pope FOR HIS ACTIONS, is a fair deal.

There are people who propagate god weather it is a Hindu god, Christian, Jewish or anyone else. There are nearly 10,000 Prophets/reincarnations/God themself/Babas/Faqeers today that have some kind of following. From my view I don't see any difference and I believe that I am well with in my rights to criticize all of the above.
 

Unicorn

Banned
hmm..

Here's how I look at it.

I start off with the assumption that ANY MATTER the Govt touches, can only get ugly.

With that said, I do not want the Govt making SOCIAL laws. Suppose, if my employee berates our Prophet Muhammed SAW, I as am employer will take the liberty to share with him the principles of the Prophets SAW and his stand against injustice. If the employee continues to insult out of bigotry, I'd warn him and then fire him.

A social problem cannot be fixed via legislation but has to be dealt with socially.

This is a different situation If I am your employee or you are my employer we have employee employer relation and work place is not a place where you criticize any religion. Any one who insults anyone's religion or Prophet at a workplace should be disciplined or fired as far as I am concerned. I don't go to work to criticize god or religions nor should propagate religion to me at work place.
 

AsifAmeer

Siasat.pk - Blogger
All I am saying his that these social norms cannot be simply legislated.

Suppose, you say something insulting about my faith, expect social resistance from me. It may be in the form of Financial dealings, ignoring u in social gatherings and stuff like that. Although I do not consider isolationism as a strategy to tackle an issue but it is a possibility.

A Better approach is to create bonds of trust, mutual respect. These create long lasting tolerant societies. But it cant be legislated!

There are people who propagate god weather it is a Hindu god, Christian, Jewish or anyone else. There are nearly 10,000 Prophets/reincarnations/God themself/Babas/Faqeers today that have some kind of following. From my view I don't see any difference and I believe that I am well with in my rights to criticize all of the above.
 

Unicorn

Banned
All I am saying his that these social norms cannot be simply legislated.

Suppose, you say something insulting about my faith, expect social resistance from me. It may be in the form of Financial dealings, ignoring u in social gatherings and stuff like that. Although I do not consider isolationism as a strategy to tackle an issue but it is a possibility.

A Better approach is to create bonds of trust, mutual respect. These create long lasting tolerant societies. But it cant be legislated!

I agree with you. There is a difference between criticizing a religion and abusing a person who follow a religion and that is something I whole heartily condemn.
 

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