Nadeem F. Paracha's Open letter to Imran Khan

no-violence

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Dear Mighty...

NADEEM F. PARACHA



Published 2013-09-23 16:32:01

Okay, but against whom have these victims of American brutality picked up arms? Against unarmed people praying in mosques, shrines and churches? Against women and children in markets? Against the Pakistan army and police? Against teenaged school girls?

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Did these people operate secret US drones from a church in Peshawar?


Oh, of course, this is so because we as a nation are fighting America’s war. Let’s say that we were, but over the years, hasn’t it become squarely our own war? Over 50,000 Pakistanis killed since 2002. They’d have to be living in Guatemala for anyone to say that this doesn’t make it Pakistan’s war.

However, you are right to ask that if the US is willing to hold talks with extremists in Afghanistan, why the Pakistanis shouldn’t be allowed to do the same with those haunting the mountains, caves and cities of Pakistan.

But whereas, the conniving Americans are doing so to negotiate a safe exit for its occupying forces in Afghanistan, what would we be negotiating for? Are we an occupying force? Is our military an occupying force in the north-west of Pakistan? Should we negotiate its safe exit first from KP so the extremists are free to do whatever they like, first in the KP, then in the rest of Pakistan?

Will we be negotiating that ‘bad Muslims’ be allowed to at least settle on the shorelines of Gawadar and Karachi? Or should we grow gills and find an underwater city of infidels in the Arabian Sea?

I am all for peace talks, Khan Saab. We are all for peace. Who in his or her right mind wouldn’t be? But so far it’s just been one-way traffic. The state and government alone has been talking about peace. And what are they getting in return?

Suicide bombings on men, women and children. IED explosions against senior military officers and soldiers. Obviously, as you pointed out, these acts are the doing of those who want to derail the peace talks. May we know who these saboteurs are?

Americans, Indians, Afghans, or maybe the ANP? Kindly do inform confused Pakistanis like me. You did say that ANP was politicising issues like suicide blasts. Well, I guess, they shouldn’t, but you most certainly can on issues like drone strikes, right?

After all, you are the mighty Khan who has always taken the higher moral ground. That’s exactly why Western press spews fact after fact on corrupt hyenas like Zardari and Sharif and mobsters like Altaf Hussain, but you only make news when you attend a charity ball by a British royal to save endangered elephants.

Oh, how we wish the 81 Christians who were slaughtered by extremists in a churchin Peshawar last Sunday were elephants as well. They’re most certainly an endangered species, just like sanity in this country.

So, can you ask Prince Charles to hold a charity ball for this as well?
Thanks.

Your fan (as opposed to a foulmouthed fanatic),
Nadeem.


http://dawn.com/news/1044868/dear-mighty/3

 
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Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
It's easy to have a go at IK at the moment. Thing is that even if the military were to bomb these invisible terrorists such attacks will only intensify. What we need to do more then anything else is pull out of this WOT. This will satisfy those who are killing innocent Pakistanis without us having to bomb them.
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
To nadeem F Paracha

We have been doing milatary action for up too 7 odd years, could someone tell me that has terrorism increased or decreased? If it has increased during the years than milatary action has been a complete waste, am i right, if NOT give explanation why?

Can army and like minded people who agree with milatary action give us a time frame in when terrorism will be eradicated?

STOP drones and ask foreign agents to leave Pakistan, what do u think they are doing here? surely NOT helping us fight terrorism are they. Excuse me for saying are they not helping the al qaida mindset rebels in Syria, the same type they should be fighting against the same old people they are supporting?

As long as there are drones these al qaida mindset will carry on recruiting people into there groups. By stopping drones and asking foreign agents to leave we make this our own war. Remember that not only are drones connected to terrorism, however our own people are being killed by these drones, has anybody bothered going over there and counting how many terrorists have been killed? has anybody gone and seen how the children are doing in living in this kind of environment, who the heck is getting killed? Surely we are NOT dumb enough to think that the areas that are getting droned people over there should be singing the hymnes of Pakistan are we? These are the people that we need to bring back on our side, we need to separate the hardcore terrorists and the ones who can come back to us.

Phase number 2 is intellectually taking this mindset on and that is by using the Quran and Hadith and challenging those who have shifted towards these groups for what ever reason they have.

Phase number 3 is too take the hardcore liners on with using milatary action by us.

There is NO guaranteed way but doing the same thing again and again is just fooilsh.

However I would like to say that IK is living in fools paradise if he thinks our present leadership will STOP drones and ask foreign agents to leave, also they are NOT capable of making peace I think. Neither will this be solved by speaking to them or by milatary action. IK needs to amke another startegy up to defend the people off KPK, because if he cannot then we can more or less kiss goodbye to NAYA KPK. PTI made there bed and now they need to lie in it.
 

Noorinat

MPA (400+ posts)
He is IK's fan as a cricketer. If you read his articles about cricket then you would know that even though he points out to IK's follies from cricketing days he is a die hard fan of IK as a cricketer.

disclaimer: I am no fan of NFP
Cricket may tu ker kui us ka fan hain ...so what .... is ko kahoo Altaf bai ko be aik haet lekh lay kah wapis ah ja England ke nationalatity chore ker
 

Machar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
He is IK's fan as a cricketer. If you read his articles about cricket then you would know that even though he points out to IK's follies from cricketing days he is a die hard fan of IK as a cricketer.

disclaimer: I am no fan of NFP

master of disinformation .. can not be a fan.

no matter what ever he says !



[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]he is using his cricket related articles to bash IK. read them carefully ![/FONT]

http://pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=5606473&postcount=12
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
master of disinformation .. can not be a fan.

no matter what ever he says !



he is using his cricket related articles to bash IK. read them carefully !

http://pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=5606473&postcount=12

Well you may disagree with his politics or ideology but you can't make up your own facts. I have been reading NFP for a long time and even though he is not very accurate with the facts sometime he is a fan of IK.

I have read his articles and what I said was based on what I have read. Imran is not infallible and I have been following his cricket for a long time and he certainly made some mistakes during his playing days. He was a great cricketer and undoubtedly the best one we have ever had or will have but that doesn't mean that he has not made mistakes during his playing days. Only his blind followers will think otherwise. He has given a lot to Pakistan cricket and made some very good decisions but also made errors of judgement. Imran was a cricketer and his cricket is not above criticism.
 
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mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Cricket may tu ker kui us ka fan hain ...so what .... is ko kahoo Altaf bai ko be aik haet lekh lay kah wapis ah ja England ke nationalatity chore ker

Let me check - no, NFP is not my neighbor. Noorinat, I don't know NFP from Adam of Nooriabad. So he will listen to you as much as he would to me. Why don't you write to him youself? :)
 

Machar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Well you may disagree with his politics or ideology but you can make up your own facts. I have been reading NFP for a long time and even though he is not very accurate with the facts he is a fan of IK.

I have read his articles and what I said was based on what I have read. Imran is not infallible and I have been following his cricket for a long time and he certainly made some mistakes during his playing days. He was a great cricketer and undoubtedly the best one we have ever had or will have but that doesn't mean that he has not made mistakes during his playing days. Only his blind followers will think otherwise. He has given a lot to Pakistan cricket and made some very good decisions but also made errors of judgement. Imran was a cricketer and his cricket is not above criticism.

when u say u been following his cricket for long .. u think others r not? or only u and f paracha been following pak/IK cricket.

i gave u link. read it show it to barcha !

as for making up your own facts ! that should apply to mr paracha !

coz >>> read what u said !

you said >

"he is not very accurate with the facts he is a fan of IK"

so who is making there own facts?

you should tell him to stop making stories to sell news papers !


lage raho ..


over n out.
 

ali-raj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
With all the Coverage and shouting from Media and People, i have come to a conclusion.

The most worthless blood in Pakistan is off Pathans, especially form Wazirstan and adjoining areas. hundreds of people have died in blast through out Pakistan, but none got the coverage like Sunday blast.
Few years back almost 200+ people died in Peshawar Main bazar, was their any commotion through out Pakistan? Were there any rallies?
Kill few hazaraz, all Pakistan seize to halt. Kill few Ahmedis, all Pakistan shuts down. Kill few Christians, All hell brake loose.

Kill hundreds of Pathans/Sunnis or Any other imam bargha (not related to hazara community) , just a simple news run, no shouting, no coverage, no strike, no special programs, no black logos. Aren't they Human? Aren't they Pakistanis? Don't they have the same rights as others?

I am not against any minority or majority . but this is what i see every day.

Now, everyone is against Imran Khan. But for what? Is it because he is available? cause he is not an untouchable? cause he doesn't have an army of armed supporters? No, simple calculation. because he has "KHAN" as his last name. no one wants to show off a "Pathan" with good moral, social values. No one wants to destroy the type cast of Pathans as terrorists.

Shame on us, but i've found these pathans to be good people, with lesser negative qualities then rest of the Pakistani awam.

Sorry, if i you guyz don't like what i wrote. I just wanted to write whats on my mind and my heart believed on.
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
when u say u been following his cricket for long .. u think others r not? or only u and f paracha been following pak/IK cricket.

i gave u link. read it show it to barcha !

as for making up your own facts ! that should apply to mr paracha !

coz >>> read what u said !

you said >

"he is not very accurate with the facts he is a fan of IK"

so who is making there own facts?

you should tell him to stop making stories to sell news papers !


lage raho ..


over n out.

You can nitpick what you want from what I wrote. You are free to do that but as I said that it will not change the facts. You can be trivial if you want to be but the point I was trying to make by saying that I have followed IK's cricket during his playing days is not to impress you or others rather to make a point hat I have myself witnessed how he had made some bad decisions during his playing days when he was all in all of Pak cricket. Thats a fact which NFP has used to criticize IK. If he has taken liberty with some facts(most of that is when he is using his sources to recount past events) in other cases that doesn't mean that he can't be a fan of IK or that everything he said about IK's cricket has to be discounted.

Would you discount this from him as well or was he fabricating facts here too?

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...g-his-speech&p=1389847&viewfull=1#post1389847

Read this article by NFP to help you understand my point because it shows his ambivalence towards IK as a cricketer and as a politician. Its a complicated amalgam of guarded praise of his cricketing acumen while still being leery of his politics. You would be able to sense his admiration for IK the cricketer clearly showing through (which you find it so hard to believe).

http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/clever-naivete-nadeem-f-paracha-on-imran-khan

Bottom line is that the comment about NFP being a fan of IK was about his cricket and a true fan like a true admirer always points to your mistakes with the praise. Anyone who doesn't do that is not a fan rather a blind devotee! If anyone thinks that since NFP is a fan of IK the cricketer is baloney given that he is a fierce critic of IK as a politician is in need of some serious help.
 
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scholar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Nadeem F. Paracha ....eder uder he khat lekhta rahay ga ...... Kabi maa baap ko be khat lek leya kar wo intezar ker rahay hain
 

lurker

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The Islamic Terrorists can only blow up Innocent civilians, women and children. They do very little damage to their stated REAL enemies. Bunch of Cowards.
 

farooqak

Minister (2k+ posts)
It is easy for wise person, Nadeem Paracha to take a go at Imran Khan, very easy indeed

The point is Imran Khan's visit to a charity ball in UK has nothing to do with the local issues and terrorism. N Paracha should realize Imran Khan is an anthropologist as well and has to go to UK yearly for charity and donations for Shaukat Khanum, Namal College and Imran Khan Foundation. He will have to support other charity ball events and be in that crowd for networking since those people are required to support his projects as well

If Nadeem Paracha can donate all the money for Shaukat Khanum and Namal College, then fine Imran Khan will not have to attend Charity balls in U.K. It is very easy to point fingers Mr Paracha, but very hard to feed poor people, cure cancer patients and provide an education to the poor people who cannot afford it

Imran Khan did not order these attacks and till today no one in Pakistan knows who is behind the church attack. There is news that Taliban denied it, there is news that it was an off shoot of Taliban as well. What is true is that whenever something positive is about to happen in Pakistan, an event like this screws everything

Instead at taking a shot at Imran Khan, a deadline must be kept to have the talks with Taliban, If there is no deadline and talks become useless, then an army action should happen. Though I really doubt army action will be successful since they are "living" with this problem since it is also their bread earner.