Music and religion

MUSIC AND RELIGION
BY
SYED SHAKIL ABBAS NAQVI

Every religion is stand on some basic fundamentals which is necessary for a believer to follow that is why all of them are well protected their constitutions commonly known as Holy Books or created by their spiritual leaders such as Bhagavad Gita, Guru Granth Sahib, Tipitaka, The Kojiki, Agamas, Kural Thirukkural etc.,etc.

All the religions as a whole have their firm belief in Holy Books which preaches them to respect humanity, make the education public, eradication of poverty, money and its fair distribution in and out flow, social aspects of a society, peace, justice and brotherhood and to achieve this task and philosophy Almighty The Creator of this universe, the Almighty sent Messengers one after another in different ages. Religion in fact is a set of rules which has to be followed practiced and implemented in day to day life in true sprit which has had written in the holy books.

Music actually exists since the creation of universe. It is a sign of healthy life, happiness and joy dawn break with the melodious sound of birds on the branches of trees where they have their nests and in bushes and does not border anybody while most of us in deep sleep. It has spiritual values in religions and their followers sing Bhjans in Hindu temples, carols in Churches.The purpose and philosophy behind the use of music is to communicate the message and teachings of Islam in the Non-Muslims residing in undivided India and Qawali was one the medium recited in religious gatherings in Islamic society.

The philosophy behind was to attract especially the Hindu population through a medium in which they understand and use of music was an ultimate choice as it is a part of their religion.

Islam is a very flexible religion among others practicing now-a-days it has millions and millions of followers around the world. In a Muslim society the use of music like singing, playing music related instruments have some restrictions although it is an eminent part of worship in some other beliefs in addition to that music is widely used in entertainment and film industry Hollywood and Bollywood are the best examples. Though music is not a favorite subject or taught in most of the Muslim countries in schools, colleges or university levels but surprisingly we have some very good names and personalities can be known by their contribution in this area.

They not only invented musical instruments but rule the world of music. Mendhi Hasan, Chotty Ghulam Ali, Barey Ghulam Ali, Zakir Husain, Madam Noor Jehan, Kujjan Begum, Amanat Ali, Salamat Ali, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, Abida Parveen, Pathanay Khan are among them.

After the tragic incident of Karbala in sixty one (61) Hijra family of Imam convey messages to general public and organized gatherings to prove their innocence. To memorize grief, brutality, injustice the supporters of Imam started communicating what had happened there in the form of marsiyeh, nuhas presented in gatherings known as majlis in lay & sur.

Religion does not impose any restriction on any form of presentation act, views or thinking but have some limitation in performance same thing also applies on music too.

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behzadji

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After the tragic incident of Karbala in sixty one (61) Hijra family of Imam convey messages to general public and organized gatherings to prove their innocence. To memorize grief, brutality, injustice the supporters of Imam started communicating what had happened there in the form of marsiyeh, nuhas presented in gatherings known as majlis in lay & sur.

Please enlighten me about one point: If the sacred family was so unhappy with the post-Karbala behaviour of the then rulers, why did they decide to settle in Syria? Why Hazrat Bibi Zainab(Salamullah Alaiha) stayed in Syria and died there and then wanted to be buried in Syria? Why she(S.A) did not return to Madinah?
 
After the tragic incident of Karbala in sixty one (61) Hijra family of Imam convey messages to general public and organized gatherings to prove their innocence. To memorize grief, brutality, injustice the supporters of Imam started communicating what had happened there in the form of marsiyeh, nuhas presented in gatherings known as majlis in lay & sur.

Please enlighten me about one point: If the sacred family was so unhappy with the post-Karbala behaviour of the then rulers, why did they decide to settle in Syria? Why Hazrat Bibi Zainab(Salamullah Alaiha) stayed in Syria and died there and then wanted to be buried in Syria? Why she(S.A) did not return to Madinah?

میوزک حرام نہیں ہے نبی پاک بھی سنتے تھے اور حضرت عمر تو بہت شوق سے آپ کو چاہیے پہلے تحقیق کر کے آیا کریں


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after the tragic incident of karbala in sixty one (61) hijra family of imam convey messages to general public and organized gatherings to prove their innocence. To memorize grief, brutality, injustice the supporters of imam started communicating what had happened there in the form of marsiyeh, nuhas presented in gatherings known as majlis in lay & sur.

please enlighten me about one point: If the sacred family was so unhappy with the post-karbala behaviour of the then rulers, why did they decide to settle in syria? Why hazrat bibi zainab(salamullah alaiha) stayed in syria and died there and then wanted to be buried in syria? Why she(s.a) did not return to madinah?

میرے دوستو آپ بلکل ہی تاریخ سے واقف ہی نہیں ہو بی بی زینب سلام اللہ علیہ وہاں رک نہیں گئی تھیں واپس مدینے چلے گئی تھیں ان کے شوہر کی جائیداد تھی باغات تھے دمشق میں اور جب ان کی شہادت ادھر ہوئی اس وقت وہ دوبارہ ادھر گئی تھیں ان کی بھتیجی سکینہ بنت حسین بھی ادھر مدفون تھیں اگر یہ نہیں معلوم تو پلیز پہلے اپنی تاریخ درست کر لو تو کیا انکو واپس مدینہ لے کر آتے کیا ادھر اس وقت جہاز چلتے تھے کوئی عقل استمعال کرو بھائی

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behzadji

Minister (2k+ posts)
تم میرے دوست بلکل ہی تاریخ سے واقف ہی نہیں ہو بی بی زینب سلام اللہ علیہ وہاں رک نہیں گئی تھیں واپس مدینے چلے گئی تھیں ان کے شوہر کی جائیداد تھی باغات تھے دمشق میں اور جب ان کی شہادت ادھر ہوئی اس وقت وہ دوبارہ ادھر گئی تھیں ان کی بھتیجی سکینہ بنت حسین بھی ادھر مدفون تھیں اگر یہ نہیں معلوم تو پلیز پہلے اپنی تاریخ درست کر لو تو کیا انکو واپس مدینہ لے کر آتے کیا ادھر اس وقت جہاز چلتے تھے کوئی عقل استمعال کرو بھائی

waqif nahi hoon tabhi tau pooch raha hoon...ghussa karnay ki kia baat hai?...

Unn ke shohar bhi shahedd ho gayay thay Karbala main?
 

behzadji

Minister (2k+ posts)
میوزک حرام نہیں ہے نبی پاک بھی سنتے تھے اور حضرت عمر تو بہت شوق سے آپ کو چاہیے پہلے تحقیق کر کے آیا کریں


@Shakl Abbas

Phir tau Hazrat Ali bhi buhat shoq se suna kertay hon gay kiyunke woh Hazrat Umer(Razi Allah Anhu) se ziayda Huzoor pbuh se pyar kernay walay thay
 
waqif nahi hoon tabhi tau pooch raha hoon...ghussa karnay ki kia baat hai?...

Unn ke shohar bhi shahedd ho gayay thay Karbala main?

نہیں بی بی زینب سلام اللہ علیہ کے شوہر شدید بیمار تھے وہ کربلا میں شہید نہیں ہوے تھے وھ مدینہ تھے انہوں نے اپنے بچوں کو اور بی وی کو امام حسین علیہ سلام کے ساتھ کربلا بھیجا تھا تھریڈ سٹارٹر کو معلوم ہی نہیں کچھ
 
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Phir tau Hazrat Ali bhi buhat shoq se suna kertay hon gay kiyunke woh Hazrat Umer(Razi Allah Anhu) se ziayda Huzoor pbuh se pyar kernay walay thay

اب یہ پھر آپ نے بیوقوفی کی بات کی ہے یہ میں نہیں مانتا پر یہ بخاری شریف میں بھی ہے اور دوسری کتب میں کے حضرت عمر سنتے تھے مولا علی کوئی عمر کو فالو نہیں کرتے تھے جو بخاری کی حدیث ہے میں اس کو بھی نہیں مانتا
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behzadji

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اب یہ پھر آپ نے بیوقوفی کی بات کی ہے یہ میں نہیں مانتا پر یہ بخاری شریف میں بھی ہے اور دوسری کتب میں کے حضرت عمر سنتے تھے مولا علی کوئی عمر کو فالو نہیں کرتے تھے جو بخاری کی حدیث ہے میں اس کو بھی نہیں مانتا
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Kia Mola Ali music pasand kertay thay?
 
Phir tau Hazrat Ali bhi buhat shoq se suna kertay hon gay kiyunke woh Hazrat Umer(Razi Allah Anhu) se ziayda Huzoor pbuh se pyar kernay walay thay

اب یہ پھر آپ نے بیوقوفی کی بات کی ہے یہ میں نہیں مانتا پر یہ بخاری شریف میں بھی ہے اور دوسری کتب میں کے حضرت عمر سنتے تھے مولا علی کوئی عمر کو فالو نہیں کرتے تھے جو بخاری کی حدیث ہے میں اس کو بھی نہیں مانتا
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نہیں بلکل نہیں نہ ہی رسول پاک یہ حدیث توہین رسالت ہے
 

behzadji

Minister (2k+ posts)
میوزک حرام نہیں ہے نبی پاک بھی سنتے تھے اور حضرت عمر تو بہت شوق سے آپ کو چاہیے پہلے تحقیق کر کے آیا کریں


@Shakl Abbas





نہیں بلکل نہیں نہ ہی رسول پاک یہ حدیث توہین رسالت ہے
confused....two opposite statements in 15 minutes..............
 
confused....two opposite statements in 15 minutes..............

یار عجیب آدمی ہوغلاظت خود بھری ہوئی ہے میں تو نشاندھی کر رہا ہوں کے ان لکھنے والوںنے غلط لکھا ہے میں نہی نہیں کوئی بھی مسلمان اس کو نہیں مانے گا اس کو کچھ بھائی عقل کو استمعال کر کے دیکھو کے میں کس کانٹیسٹ میں بات کر رہا ہوں
 

dangerous tears

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یار اتنی لمبی تحریر لکھنے کی بجاءَ ایک بار بس طاہر شاہ کا گانا سن لو خود ہی کہو گے میوزک حرام ہے میوزک حرام ہے
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Following are the all hadeeths related to Music found in two authentic Books of Hadiths (Sahih al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim):

To prove that dances and Music are not supported by Authentic Hadeeth I am listing below almost all Hadeeths, in Sahih Muslim and Bukhari, related to music. You will note that after reading all these Hadeeth maximum you can get little relaxation on Eid days or during marriage ceremonies and even the relaxation is for the singing (not dancing) of small girls. In one of the Hadeeth the words of Abu Bakr (RA) "Musical instruments of Satan", proves that it was a norm that Musical instruments were not welcomed or liked. But Prophet Muhammad pbuh said "Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an 'Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our 'Id." (Sahih Bukhari, Book #58, Hadith #268). This Hadeeth combined with other hadeeths shows permissibility or relaxation of playing music by small girls during Eid or marriage ceremony.

Narrated Aisha: Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) came to my house while two girls were singing beside me the songs of Buath (a story about the war between the two tribes of the Ansar, the Khazraj and the Aus, before Islam). The Prophet (p.b.u.h) lay down and turned his face to the other side. Then Abu Bakr came and spoke to me harshly saying, "Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet (p.b.u.h) ?" Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) turned his face towards him and said, "Leave them." When Abu Bakr became inattentive, I signalled to those girls to go out and they left. It was the day of 'Id, and the Black people were playing with shields and spears; so either I requested the Prophet (p.b.u.h) or he asked me whether I would like to see the display. I replied in the affirmative. Then the Prophet (p.b.u.h) made me stand behind him and my cheek was touching his cheek and he was saying, "Carry on! O Bani Arfida," till I got tired. The Prophet (p.b.u.h) asked me, "Are you satisfied (Is that sufficient for you)?" I replied in the affirmative and he told me to leave. (Sahih Bukhari, Book #15, Hadith #70)

Narrated Aisha: Abu Bakr came to my house while two small Ansari girls were singing beside me the stories of the Ansar concerning the Day of Buath. And they were not singers. Abu Bakr said protestingly, "musical instruments of Satan in the house of Allah's Apostle !" It happened on the 'Id day and Allah's Apostle said, "O Abu Bakr! There is an 'Id for every nation and this is our 'Id." (Sahih Bukhari, Book #15, Eids, Hadith #72)

Narrated Aisha: That once Abu Bakr came to her on the day of 'Id-ul-Fitr or 'Id ul Adha while the Prophet was with her and there were two girl singers with her, singing songs of the Ansar about the day of Buath. Abu Bakr said twice. "musical instrument of Satan!" But the Prophet said, "Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an 'Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our 'Id." (Sahih Bukhari, Book #58, Hadith #268)

Narrated Ar-Rabi': (the daughter of Muawwidh bin Afra) After the consummation of my marriage, the Prophet came and sat on my bed as far from me as you are sitting now, and our little girls started beating the tambourines and reciting elegiac verses mourning my father who had been killed in the battle of Badr. One of them said, "Among us is a Prophet who knows what will happen tomorrow." On that the Prophet said, "Leave this (saying) and keep on saying the verses which you had been saying before." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #62, Hadith #77)

'A'isha reported: The Messenger of Allah (way peace be upon him) came (in my apartment) while there were two girls with me singing the song of the Battle of Bu'ath. He lay down on the bed and turned away his face. Then came Abu Bakr and he scolded me and said: Oh! this musical instrument of the devil in the house of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) turned towards him and said: Leave them alone. And when he (the Holy Prophet) became unattentive, I hinted them and they went out, and it was the day of 'Id and negroes were playing with shields and speare. (I do not remember) whether I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) or whether he said to me if I desired to see (that sport). I said: Yes. I stood behind him with his face parallel to my face, and he said: O Banu Arfada, be busy (in your sports) till I was satiated. He said (to me): Is that enough? I said: Yes. Upon this he asked me to go. (Sahih Muslim, Book #004, Hadith #1942)

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The bell is the musical instrument of the Satan.
(Sahih Muslim,Book #024, Hadith #5279)

Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari: that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection." (Sahih Bukhari,Book #69, Drinks, Hadith #494v)
 

behzadji

Minister (2k+ posts)
یار عجیب آدمی ہوغلاظت خود بھری ہوئی ہے میں تو نشاندھی کر رہا ہوں کے ان لکھنے والوںنے غلط لکھا ہے میں نہی نہیں کوئی بھی مسلمان اس کو نہیں مانے گا اس کو کچھ بھائی عقل کو استمعال کر کے دیکھو کے میں کس کانٹیسٹ میں بات کر رہا ہوں

aap ka matlab hai ke aap ki samjh main ye hadith nahi aa saki balke iss main tazad nazar aata hay tau bhai ye tau aap ki samajh main bhee ghalti ho sakti hay na...
kia aap ko hadith se matlab nikaalna aata hay?

kia aap ne iss hadith ka matlab samajhnay main koi tehqeeq ki....?

sirf urdu tarjuma dekh kar tau nahi na apnay pass se matlab nikaal laitay....?

aik baat tau sabit ho gayee ke agar iss hadith main ghalti hay tau Hazrat Umar(Razi allah Anhu) music ko pasand nahi kertay thay aur na hi Maula Ali(KarramAllahu Wajhu)
 
aap ka matlab hai ke aap ki samjh main ye hadith nahi aa saki balke iss main tazad nazar aata hay tau bhai ye tau aap ki samajh main bhee ghalti ho sakti hay na...
kia aap ko hadith se matlab nikaalna aata hay?

kia aap ne iss hadith ka matlab samajhnay main koi tehqeeq ki....?

sirf urdu tarjuma dekh kar tau nahi na apnay pass se matlab nikaal laitay....?

aik baat tau sabit ho gayee ke agar iss hadith main ghalti hay tau Hazrat Umar(Razi allah Anhu) music ko pasand nahi kertay thay aur na hi Maula Ali(KarramAllahu Wajhu)

آپ سرکار میری بات سمجھ ہی نہیں رہے میوزک حرام ہے اسلام میں تو یہ جو کتب میں روایت ہیں یہ بلکل ٹھیک نھیں حدیث کو جانچنے کے لیے کم از کم یہ تو ضرور دیکھنا ہو گا کے کیا وہ قران سے مطابقت رکھتی ہے ؟ اور دوسری بات جب اسلام حرام قرار دے رہا ہے تو پھر چھوٹی امی جان ہوں یا نبی پاک یا عمر وہ کیسے سن سکے ہیں ؟
ان کتابوں نے ہی جھوٹ لکھ کر توہین کی ہے آپ کی جس کی بنا پر کوئی سلمان رشدی نسرین یا کوئی مفتی جو ابھی ظاہر ہوا پچھلے دنوں یہ سب ذمے دار ہیں اور خاص طور پر یہ صحاح ستہ کی کتب
 
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aap ka matlab hai ke aap ki samjh main ye hadith nahi aa saki balke iss main tazad nazar aata hay tau bhai ye tau aap ki samajh main bhee ghalti ho sakti hay na...
kia aap ko hadith se matlab nikaalna aata hay?

kia aap ne iss hadith ka matlab samajhnay main koi tehqeeq ki....?

sirf urdu tarjuma dekh kar tau nahi na apnay pass se matlab nikaal laitay....?

aik baat tau sabit ho gayee ke agar iss hadith main ghalti hay tau Hazrat Umar(Razi allah Anhu) music ko pasand nahi kertay thay aur na hi Maula Ali(KarramAllahu Wajhu)

ایک بات مجھے سمجھ نہیں ای کے آپ کو ان کتب کے حوالے پڑھ کر کوئی شرمندگی نہیں ہوئی ؟ کے یہ باتیں لکھنے والے اسلام کے ہمدرد کیسے ہو سکتے ہیں ؟
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
May Allah give us guidance so that not only we discuss Islamic issues but implement on ourselves (Aameen).

Qur'aan and Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم) has all the answer to our questions. So the key is that in case of conflict, consult Quraan and Hadeeth NOT the peer, faqeer, darwaish and wali etc.



(Qur'an 31:6) وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يَشْتَرِي لَهْوَ الْحَدِيثِ لِيُضِلَّ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَيَتَّخِذَهَا هُزُوًا ۚ أُولَـٰئِكَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ مُّهِينٌ
But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a Humiliating Penalty.
اور بعض ایسے آدمی بھی ہیں جو کھیل کی باتوں کے خریدار ہیں تاکہ بن سمجھے الله کی راہ سے بہکائیں اور اس کی ہنسی اڑائیں ایسے لوگو ں کے لیے ذلت کا عذاب ہے

Tafseer of above Qur'aanic verse by Tafseer Ibn-e-Kaseer:

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Sahih Bukhari:

Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari: that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful..... (Sahih Bukhari Book #69, Hadith #494v)
 
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May Allah give us guidance so that not only we discuss Islamic issues but implement on ourselves (Aameen).

Qur'aan and Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم) has all the answer to our questions. So the key is that in case of conflict, consult Quraan and Hadeeth NOT the peer, faqeer, darwaish and wali etc.



(Qur'an 31:6) وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يَشْتَرِي لَهْوَ الْحَدِيثِ لِيُضِلَّ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَيَتَّخِذَهَا هُزُوًا ۚ أُولَـٰئِكَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ مُّهِينٌ
But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a Humiliating Penalty.
اور بعض ایسے آدمی بھی ہیں جو کھیل کی باتوں کے خریدار ہیں تاکہ بن سمجھے الله کی راہ سے بہکائیں اور اس کی ہنسی اڑائیں ایسے لوگو ں کے لیے ذلت کا عذاب ہے

Tafseer of above Qur'aanic verse by Tafseer Ibn-e-Kaseer:

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Sahih Bukhari:

Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari: that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful..... (Sahih Bukhari Book #69, Hadith #494v)



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do you believe in that sahih bukhari ? that rasool pak listen music ? please dont copy paste
 

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aap ka matlab hai ke aap ki samjh main ye hadith nahi aa saki balke iss main tazad nazar aata hay tau bhai ye tau aap ki samajh main bhee ghalti ho sakti hay na...
kia aap ko hadith se matlab nikaalna aata hay?

kia aap ne iss hadith ka matlab samajhnay main koi tehqeeq ki....?

sirf urdu tarjuma dekh kar tau nahi na apnay pass se matlab nikaal laitay....?

aik baat tau sabit ho gayee ke agar iss hadith main ghalti hay tau Hazrat Umar(Razi allah Anhu) music ko pasand nahi kertay thay aur na hi Maula Ali(KarramAllahu Wajhu)

Brother behzadji, the member "6 September" is Shia. He is intentionally trying to be blasphemous with Hazrat Umar (RA). Try to read between the lines. Shia would not let any opportunity in vein without damaging the status of Sahabah (RA). He is using unauthentic Hadeeths from Books other than Siha Sitta to defame Hazarat Umar (RA).

The way you are debating with him, With due respect and forgive me if I am mistaken... "Are you also an under cover Shia?"

He is clearly quoting an unauthentic Hadeeth from Sibli Naumani Books. The reference given by Shibli Naumani is not from Siha Sitta Book.

Again, please forgive me if I did "budgumani". It is internet age and we do not know who is behind the scene. Shia believes in "Taqayya" which allows them to deceive others.
 
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