Molana Tariq Jameel can't say a word to those who are spreading anarchy

Walter

Senator (1k+ posts)
مولانا طارق جمیل صاحب کے پاس عامر خان اور وینا ملک کو ہدایت دینے کا وقت ہے لیکن ملک میں اسلام کے نام پر افراتفری پھیلانے والوں کیلئے ایک جملہ کہنے کا وقت نہیں۔
 
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Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
They are all the same.
Don't expect anything from mullahs. They are the one behind Islam's bad name in the world.
 

Res1Pect

Minister (2k+ posts)
He has been spreading respect, love, tolerance and forbearance throughout the world among muslims of different sects. All I have for this man is RESPECT.

Secondly, there are people who think TARIQ JAMIL will be right and should be right in everything he does, everything he says. HE is a good man, an Islamic Scholar, a loving person...but he is not a PROPHET who cannot do or say anything wrong. You might find him at fault in different matters, that's just natural. But as a human being, his good side is overwhelming in his personality, though he would also have his weaknesses.
 

Tyrion Lannister

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
He has been spreading respect, love, tolerance and forbearance throughout the world among muslims of different sects. All I have for this man is RESPECT.

Secondly, there are people who think TARIQ JAMIL will be right and should be right in everything he does, everything he says. HE is a good man, an Islamic Scholar, a loving person...but he is not a PROPHET who cannot do or say anything wrong. You might find him at fault in different matters, that's just natural. But as a human being, his good side is overwhelming in his personality, though he would also have his weaknesses.
deepest realms of hell are for people who remain neutral in time of moral crisis: Dan Brown
 

Res1Pect

Minister (2k+ posts)
deepest realms of hell are for people who remain neutral in time of moral crisis: Dan Brown

Deepest realms of Hell are for those who 'say one word' that starts fire of hatred in the society' and burns countless innocents in it.
Secondly, people like Maulana Tariq Jamil has spent their entire life in making real 'efforts' (not mere empty words) to treat the moral crisis of Muslim Ummah, not only in Pakistan but around the world.
its always easier said than done...He may not say something, but he is doing everything in his capacity to put off this fire of hatred.
May Allah accept all his sincere efforts. Ameen
 

Steyn

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
مولانا طارق جمیل صاحب کے پاس عامر خان اور وینا ملک کو ہدایت دینے کا وقت ہے لیکن ملک میں اسلام کے نام پر افراتفری پھیلانے والوں کیلئے ایک جملہ کہنے کا وقت نہیں۔

Please don't involve him in this. He has always been the voice of love and tolerance for anyone.

Molana Sami ul Haq lost his life already cause of this mess, we don't want another religious leader to lose his.

It's all a fire and the sane Maulvis should steer clear of it.

Nobody is seeing reason.

Government should solve this with dialogue even if they have to sack the judges. Do everything!.
 

aka DURRANI

MPA (400+ posts)
in a war of words, only prayers can win the battle. who knows whose prayers are answered.

be positive gentleman....
 

Tyrion Lannister

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Deepest realms of Hell are for those who 'say one word' that starts fire of hatred in the society' and burns countless innocents in it.
do not rush in answering, think about what I wrote. It is not actions of few that destroy nations but silence of the influential people.
 

Steyn

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
He has been spreading respect, love, tolerance and forbearance throughout the world among muslims of different sects. All I have for this man is RESPECT.

Secondly, there are people who think TARIQ JAMIL will be right and should be right in everything he does, everything he says. HE is a good man, an Islamic Scholar, a loving person...but he is not a PROPHET who cannot do or say anything wrong. You might find him at fault in different matters, that's just natural. But as a human being, his good side is overwhelming in his personality, though he would also have his weaknesses.

I completely agree with you.

The only person that has been nothing but preaching the true face of Islam - of love, respect and tolerance for everyone and bringing everyone to Islam is to be dragged into this and called names.

He is also not an angel, i don't agree with his involvement with Nawaz Sharif, his wife but he is a human and has his own point of view. I respect him deeply and he should be left alone unless he wants to comment.

I don't think he will, he knows siding with anyone would hurt the emotions of others and he isn't going to do that.
 

Res1Pect

Minister (2k+ posts)
do not rush in answering, think about what I wrote. It is not actions of few that destroy nations but silence of the influential people.

I am rushing in answering ???... I read every word of your post before I answered.

You want him to say some words of hatred for SOME GROUPS / SOME PEOPLE and according to you he would be GOOD if he says that. However, he always been speaking against SIN and EVIL throughout his life, not against the SINNER by calling his name.

Hate the SIN, not the SINNER.

Fire of Hatred cannot be put out by some other words of HATRED in reply. Hatred in reply to Hatred would only double Hatred.
 

Tyrion Lannister

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am rushing in answering ???... I read every word of your post before I answered.

You want him to say some words of hatred for SOME GROUPS / SOME PEOPLE and according to you he would be GOOD if he says that. However, he always been speaking against SIN and EVIL throughout his life, not against the SINNER by calling his name.

Hate the SIN, not the SINNER.

Fire of Hatred cannot be put out by some other words of HATRED in reply. Hatred in reply to Hatred would only double Hatred.
He cannot even condem TTP, I asked him personally and he did not dare, useless to elaborate any further philosophy regarding nations psychology.
 

Hussain1967

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Please don't involve him in this. He has always been the voice of love and tolerance for anyone.

Molana Sami ul Haq lost his life already cause of this mess, we don't want another religious leader to lose his.

It's all a fire and thee sane Maulvis should steer clear of it.

Nobody is seeing reason.

Government should solve this with dialogue even if they have to sack the judges. Do everything!.
Govt can't sack any judge. This is what our constitution says. Period.
 

Res1Pect

Minister (2k+ posts)
He cannot even condem TTP, I asked him personally and he did not dare, useless to elaborate any further philosophy regarding nations psychology.

Why would he condemn someone without having proof against them?

What would you show ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY if HE asks you on the Day of Judgment as a proof against TTP or PPT or anybody??? Would you give today's MEDIA CLIPS as a proof from where you came to know that this group is made of terrorists and that is made of terrorists???
 

Tyrion Lannister

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why would he condemn someone without having proof against them?

What would you show ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY if HE asks you on the Day of Judgment as a proof against TTP or PPT or anybody??? Would you give today's MEDIA CLIPS as a proof from where you came to know that this group is made of terrorists and that is made of terrorists???
if you believe you still need proofs against TTP then this discussion is over
 

Shareef

Minister (2k+ posts)
With due respect to Molana sahib, he always professes that all sins will be pardoned when you do tauba. This gives an impression to innocent people that sins against humanity (huqooq ul ibaad) are pardonable while the Holy Quran says they are not. Because of his this favorite lenient stance on sins, muslims are becoming more and more and bigger and bigger sinners with each passing day. He never preaches to abstain from sins. He always talks of sins being pardoned easily. In other words he wants to gain cheap popularity while misguiding innocent people.
 

Steyn

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
if you believe you still need proofs against TTP then this discussion is over
You can't have both.

You are against a Molana who is vocal about everything

You are against a Molana who is silent about everything

Just make up your damn mind.

They are also humans, they interpret things according to their point of view.

The country is divided on this issue. I am with neither but i don't have the audacity to call Khadim Rizvi anything because only Allah knows if he is right or wrong. Some people are siding with Khadim Rizvi, some are against him and there are some who don't care about Allah and using this opportunity to hurt Islam.

The sane thing is to let the government handle it and speak the voice of logic and reason not violence. Just because someone is showing violence doesn't mean they are wrong.

You want violence and there are people who are spewing insults against ALL MOLANAs and they have the audacity to call Khadim Rizvi wrong. How are they any better than Khadim Rizvi if their language is dirty like his and they want violence as well
 

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