Meray Mutabiq 30th may 2010 - Gen (R) Hameed Gul, Dr Saleem Bukhari

sakayani

Senator (1k+ posts)
It was a good discussion between extreme views of Gen. Gul and logics of Dr. Saleem. I think the way should be in-between. Desperate measures are needed with presence of mind. Unless civil, political and military are not on the same page, no measure will be valid. Civil sector is moving towards revolution, political sector has no solution and busy with survival politics, and military is been stretched, engaged and have different priorities. It was a good point by Dr Saleem that 17 million lives should not be put in danger but the problem is that they already are. Instead of dying with slow poison, why should not die with honour and dignity? Instead of being a victim of terror attack, why should not one die for the honour of its country?
We are clearly suffering because we are not able to identify our enemey as yet. Things will become easier if we know who are we fighting with.
 

sarmad

Senator (1k+ posts)
Zardari aur iss kay hawari murdabad aur pakistan hamesha kay liye zindabad..Pakistan super nation banay ga InshahAllah aur ye saray maslay hul ho jayein gay.
 

samy99

Minister (2k+ posts)
The shameless PPP govt is abusing the votes of people by reacting anti-national policies with totally destructive and selfish actions.Zardari have signed 18th amendment but he is still incharge and sitting on the steering wheel whereas dummy PM is not able to say anything.As long zardari is there,country will be moving towards a failed state because of bad governence and no direction.This govt have to go by judiciary or establishment, and replaced with a technocrat govt for some time to lead the country towards stability otherwise we are doomed.For a clean govt , direct taxes on doctors,lawyers,landlords , businessmen and others should be levied on fair basis and collected at any cost whereas indirect taxes are mostly effect the common person.Property taxes , sales and excise duties are mostly gone in the collectors pockets , corruption have to be checked. Accountability is the most important issue which have to be in place ,does not matter who is the personality.Richard Nixon,the late president of US did not once show his real income ,the revenue deptt fined him and collected the balance of income tax with penalty.In pakistan,NS is paying Rs.5000 as income tax,what kind of joke is this.NS did,t show his foreign income nor his son,same with others.The govt have to cut down its expenses and live within its means otherwise how long pakistan will act like beggar,i dont have to tell them -the govt knows this. I will repeat NS is not doing any justice with the country to keep its mouth shut,being an opposition leader,its is obligation to go after the govt and tell them to cut the expenses and ask for good governence on daily basis but he is waiting for his turn which will never come.All the politicians and others have to bring their money back into pakistan from foreign banks,it will not be done easily -someone have to use the stick for that.
 
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sshahid

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Gen. Gul is realist and Dr. Saleem is pragmatist. I think its time to be realist or we're doomed.
 
Pakistani establishment should come now to and take over the country and kill the entire corrupt PPP member including zardari and would be better to kill them in a square "CHOOK" in every city in order to protect the sovereignty of Pakistan.
 

Geek

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Zardari & Company must be removed from power as soon as possible BUT through a legal process.
 

Nawazish

Minister (2k+ posts)
is gov ko fikar hee nahi ka America oori tayari kar ka baitha ha kab moka milay aur pakistn per direct attack karay. yeh loog judicury ko unglian dainay main lagay hoy hain.
 

waleedhussain

Councller (250+ posts)
I standby Gen. Saab ... he is right at every point. He know all the logics he have been well groomed to hav an eyebird's view than other dr. saab who is similar to mummy daddy idealistics ... Pakistan needs a revolution ... May Allah provide me the opportunity to be part of that revolution for truely ISLAMIC Republic of Pakistan. Ameen
 

smalltimepro

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Dr. Saleem indeed has some good ponits, but as some one already said, he is not a realist. Sure we should reduce our expenses. Easy peasy. But that is not really a probability is it?

H Gul has indeed put in the more practical and realist viewpoint. I say lets hang all the elites. Let them have what they deserve. Enough with the exploitation. Lets have a Cuban style revolution. Damn them all. Hang them all. Make fresh start.
 
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Siasati

Guest
Dr Shahid Masood presented a good programme today and also it is very pleasing to see some new faces here and the comments are also quite enjoyable.

Lets keep this spirit.
 

moazzam

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Dr Shahid Masood presented a good programme today and also it is very pleasing to see some new faces here and the comments are also quite enjoyable.

Lets keep this spirit.

shahid masood sahab kabhi gen kiyani ko bhi lago
 

pakistanstube

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mr. Dr. Shahid Please try to control your internal problems dont work like Mubshar Luqman. We all know the crises and mismanagemnt of Poor Pakistan. Your both gust performed excellent performance, if they are colse to me I am going to kiss them. Patience and wisdom always bring sweet fruit. This time we proud on media and judiciary. Allah bless on both of them.
 

khanpanni

Minister (2k+ posts)
Khocha yeh americi afghanistan main khuid aa ga ab agar pakistan main bhi ana chaiti ha to aa jay kya farak parta ha . Khocha U.S.A tum apni marzi sa aye
Allah ki marzi say jei gha ya hamari marzi say aur 10 sall kay baad. Khocha aus wakat tak tum ko hamara NASWAR mafak aa jai ghe aur salageet bhee aur
addir ka mossam bhee aur pheer toum hamara sath NAMAZ bhee paree gha aur hamara bhai ban jay ghee INSHALLAH !

Khocha muslaman loog bhot fakir karti haa, fakar mat koro bus dowa koro kah yah aour 10 saal adar hie rahee sab theek ho jay gha !
 

usman6062

MPA (400+ posts)
its a very good discussion....and i totally agree with Gen. Hameed Gul.....aur wo yeh k log bahir niklain aur inn hukmuraanooo ko bahir nikaal daein....
Phir Imran Khan jaisay patriotic person k hath mein hakoomat aaye ... to inshAllah...Pakistan sahi simmat per chal niklay ga...inshAllah
 

khanpanni

Minister (2k+ posts)
Khocha yeh americi afghanistan main khuid aa ga ab agar pakistan main bhi ana chaiti ha to aa jay kya farak parta ha . Khocha U.S.A tum apni marzi sa aye
Allah ki marzi say jei gha ya hamari marzi say aur 10 sall kay baad. Khocha aus wakat tak tum ko hamara NASWAR mafak aa jai ghe aur salageet bhee aur
addir ka mossam bhee aur pheer toum hamara sath NAMAZ bhee paree gha aur hamara bhai ban jay ghee INSHALLAH !

Khocha muslaman loog bhot fakir karti haa, fakar mat koro bus dowa koro kah yah aour 10 saal adar hie rahee sab theek ho jay gha !


These both men are very patriotic one way or the other . It is a very good analysis . Thanx !

USA and NATO came in Afghanistan by themselves and now they want to quit Afghanistan leaving mess behind . Should they go as they did during Soviet
war ?
With all this distruction and anihilation of Pakistanies and Afghans some analisers say that they shaould stay in Afghanistan till enough air is out of the
ballon ?
Trust on ALLAH and dont worry , with douwas ,
PAK Forces ZINDABAD
Pakistan ZINDABAD
 

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