Men and women pray together: A new mosque 'for all' in Britain

Geek

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
In the damp basement room of a Caribbean restaurant in London, Naima leads prayers for an audience of male and female worshippers.


They face Makkah, directed by an arrow scrawled on a blackboard in pink chalk.

But Naima she did not want to give her full name had just begun the Surah Al-Fatiha when a young woman got up and hurried out of the room in Camden in the north of the British capital.


As if on cue, Should I Stay Or Should I Go by punk band The Clash was playing in the restaurant.

Leila Bakkioui, 25, clad in a headscarf, admitted she was reeling.

I went downstairs to pray and a sister led the prayer, she explained breathlessly to her friend Tana Rasekh, who
was waiting for her in the restaurant.



Rasekh said: When she came out, I thought she had seen a ghost.


Bakkioui, a young mathematics teacher, had stumbled into a group of Muslims working towards a more inclusive Islam, where men and women pray in the same room, with women sometimes leading the prayers.



Tamsila Tauqir helped to launch the Inclusive Mosque Initiative (IMI) in November last year after she became frustrated by what she saw in mosques in Britain and the wider Muslim world.



There is nothing in the Quran that says that women and men cant pray together or that women cant lead prayers, said Tauqir, whose long black shirt with long sleeves matches her Dr Martens shoes, while a keffiyeh is arranged around her neck.



But Bakkioui strongly disagrees.


What you saw is not Islam. Its corrupt, she told AFP.


Women cant lead if there are men in the room. And they stay behind. When you pray you bend down and you dont
want to think he is looking at my bottom! Its the last thing you want to think about.


Her friend Rasekh agrees. You cant make things up the way you want, said the 26-year-old mother of two.


A few tables away, a dozen IMI members were congregating after prayers.


I understand that people are shocked because we have been taught that men and women pray separately, but I have adapted, said Sophia, a 33-year-old French woman who works in telemarketing. She is attending the prayer group for the first time.


A lot of people forget to focus on the essential things. They just do what everyone else does without taking the time to read the Quran, said Sophia, a tall woman who has her dark hair pulled up into a bun.

She admitted she doesnt agree with everything that goes on around this table, pointing to the presence of a handful of homosexual men at the session that evening.

One of her friends added: It is contradictory to be gay and Muslim.

IMI, which says it has 500 people on its mailing list, does not yet have a permanent home Tauqir describes it as a nomadic mosque.

The group has pointedly not found a mosque willing to host their meetings.


We meet two or three times a month and we hire rooms, Tauqir said. We are looking for donations to have a

physical space in London and somewhere else.


Tauqir admits she has received dismissive comments about the group, but insists they were not threatening.


When contacted by AFP for comment on IMI, two leading Islamic organisations in Britain failed to respond.

Hassan Wanini, a Kenyan man taking part in an IMI session for the first time, predicted that if the group continued to grow, there will be a backlash.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/588733/men-and-women-pray-together-a-new-mosque-for-all-in-britain/
 

sarbakaf

Siasat.pk - Blogger
HAHAH

lovers of mixed gathering also want mixed prayer

نماز کا تو معلوم نہیں
مگر ضرور ہو گیئ GUNNAH
 
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PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Another Fitna - Sure that Britians are behind it, like they created Ahmadis.

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The Inclusive Mosque Initiative (IMI) was set up in November last year.
Its UK co-ordinator Tamsila Tauqir said: "We want to offer Muslims an alternative space in which they can pray and meet.
"We will not discriminate against anyone, they can be Sunni or Shia, straight or gay, people with families and people without."

Tamsila Tauqir (Looks Hindu from Face)

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This is not a mosque but a Fitna center against Islam. Muslims are asked to Jihad against such Fitna. This is where TTP should go and not in Islamabad mosques.

http://inclusivemosqueinitiative.org/
 
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contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
1. An important feature of Islam is that it very clearly states, what is allowed and what is not allowed.

2. All the laws and practices are in writing.

3. I feel sorry for people like these. If they want "freedom & inclusiveness", then the only solution is to leave Islam and follow
some other religion.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
The Satanists emerge in different shapes.....it is one of them. Islam does not forbid women to pray in Masjid if U have separate place for women. However, it encourages them to pray in home. The effort shown in the post is like following Christian tradition of church.......and falls under the following Hadees-e-Rasoolpbuh

بخاری شریف میں ابو سعید خدریؓ سے روایت ہے کہ جناب نبی اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے ارشاد فرمایا کہ تم پہلی امتوں کے نقش قدم پر چلوگے، حتیٰ کہ اگر ان میں سے کوئی گوہ (صحرائی جانور) کے بِل میں گُھسا ہے تو تم بھی ضرور گھسو گے۔ صحابہؓ نے دریافت کیا کہ یارسول اللہ! کیا پہلی امتوں سے مراد یہود ونصاریٰ ہیں تو آنحضرت صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے جواب دیا کہ ’تو اور کون ہے

Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri: The Prophet said, "You will follow the ways of those nations who were before you, span by span and cubit by cubit (i.e., inch by inch) so much so that even if they entered a hole of a mastigure (a kind of reptile), you would follow them." We said, "O Allah's Apostle! (Do you mean) the Jews and the Christians?" He said, "Whom else?" (Sahih Bukhari-Book #92, Hadith #422)
 
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jason

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Another effort -directed towards probably new converts and the seculars to misguide mislead in there initial understanding.It is surely a fitna created with planning.
A similar effort was made in US where a woman started leading prayers in a church.
 

famamdani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Another Fitna - Sure that Britians are behind it, like they created Ahmadis.

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The Inclusive Mosque Initiative (IMI) was set up in November last year.
Its UK co-ordinator Tamsila Tauqir said: "We want to offer Muslims an alternative space in which they can pray and meet.
"We will not discriminate against anyone, they can be Sunni or Shia, straight or gay, people with families and people without."

Tamsila Tauqir (Looks Hindu from Face)

tt-imi-1.jpg


A HUMAN HAVE CANCER HE TOOK ONLY VITAMIN TABLET ........HE CAN FEEL HEALTHY ........NO FIRST HE TAKE MEDICINE AGAINST CANCER AFTER CONTROL THIS SICKNESS HE IMPROVE MORE BETTER WITH VITAMIN TABLET.....AND BECOME MORE BEST RESULT ...............OTHERWISE HE DIED PAINFULL ......(clap)
 
M

Mariam

Guest
خدارا کم از کم نماز کا تو مزاق نہ بناؤ
 

realityhurts

Councller (250+ posts)
Very well said brothers........ indeed behind every fitna .......

but the biggest fitna ever created are ahmaddies .... dont believe me just check out twitter , the amount of venom they are spreading against slam in general and Pakistan in particular is shocking ... the dangerous thing about them is that they are among us you can tell who is and who is not....... unless you have knowledge about them..... the only thing they hate is to be exposed...

brother i request you either read this

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B5A2Q5lxlDWzRnQ3bHVfelNqaE0/edit?pli=1

or watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Noyh0MKGeA

Another Fitna - Sure that Britians are behind it, like they created Ahmadis.

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The Inclusive Mosque Initiative (IMI) was set up in November last year.
Its UK co-ordinator Tamsila Tauqir said: "We want to offer Muslims an alternative space in which they can pray and meet.
"We will not discriminate against anyone, they can be Sunni or Shia, straight or gay, people with families and people without."
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
انسانی ناقص عقل اور خاص طور پر وہ عقل جو یورپ میں پروان چڑھی ہو وہ تو شاید اس عمل کو قبول کرلے
مگر الحمدللہ دین انسانی عقل کی قبولیت نہیں بلکہ دین وحی الہی کا نام ہے
چاہے یورپ میں پروان چڑھی عقل کو قبول ہو یا نہ ہو


 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
hum mein say aksar nimaz nahin padhtay aur chalein hain isay condemn karnay....kam say kam yeh log namaz toh padhtay hain....un kay aimal un key aur Allah keh beech mein hai...lets focus on ourselves instead...
 

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
hum mein say aksar nimaz nahin padhtay aur chalein hain isay condemn karnay....kam say kam yeh log namaz toh padhtay hain....un kay aimal un key aur Allah keh beech mein hai...lets focus on ourselves instead...

Gay Mosque and Namaz??
 
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lurker

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
It's ok. Let the person pray first and perhaps with time they will fall into the proper way of Salah. However if you quickly disregard, then you are gambling. Either the person will just leave prayer altogether or follow what you say. So I recommend that leave them be. Inform them how it is rightly done and that's about it. You do not need to break out the fatwas the hadiths etc.
 

famamdani

Minister (2k+ posts)
hum mein say aksar nimaz nahin padhtay aur chalein hain isay condemn karnay....kam say kam yeh log namaz toh padhtay hain....un kay aimal un key aur Allah keh beech mein hai...lets focus on ourselves instead...

KOUNSA KAAM HE JO ALLAH AUR IS K BANDE KE BEECH NAHI ..!!!!!!!!!!!!...............AUR US KAAM PE HUM TANQEED KIYOON KARTE HAIN.................GIVE ME ONE EXAMPLE.....................DEEN ME TWO WAY HAIN YES OR NO............AAP MANTE HO YA INKAR KARTE HO......................BUT U DID JOKE ITS ABSOLUTE NOT ALLOWED.....KISI BHI KAAM KO DEKH LAIN..................AAP KARTE HO YA NAHI KARTE BUT AGAR AAP IS KO MAZAQ BANA KAR KARO GE TOU YE KIA KEHLAE GA ............?????(clap)
 

gorgias

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اسلام کے کسی بھی فقہہ، کسی بھی مسلک میں عورت کی امامت کا کوئی تصور نہیں ہے۔

ویسے یہ تصویر دیکھ کر مجھے پشاور کے ایک مشہور عالم مولٰنا محمد امیر عرف مولانا بجلی گھر کی ایک حکایت یاد آئی۔
ان سے کسی نے پوچھا ؛کیا پینٹ میں نماز ہو جاتی ہےَ
انہوں نے جواب دیا۔ پینٹ والے کی نماز تو ہو جاتی ہے البتہ اس کے پیچھے کھڑے شخص کی نماز نہیں ہوگی۔۔

 

famamdani

Minister (2k+ posts)
It's ok. Let the person pray first and perhaps with time they will fall into the proper way of Salah. However if you quickly disregard, then you are gambling. Either the person will just leave prayer altogether or follow what you say. So I recommend that leave them be. Inform them how it is rightly done and that's about it. You do not need to break out the fatwas the hadiths etc.

THATS U R RIGHT BUT YE US WAQT ACHA HOTA AGAR UN TAK ILM NA POHNCHA HOTA.............THIS DONE IN UK AND NOT IN JUNGLE ......................JAHAN ILM KI ROSHNI NA POHNCHI HO ..................MAY BE I WRONG........!!!(clap)
 

aimless

Minister (2k+ posts)
com on bro we need to help ppl learn rather than getting angry and start accusing ... we have to believe that they have nice hearts and they will accept what is right and so do we. no on is perfect and if u find someone doing something wrong then try to talk to them as soft and nicely as u can and with logic. i hope ppl near that place will go and with wisdom and clear heart try to explain things and i hope ppl who r there to offer prayer will learn and able to change and able to understand as per the Will of ALLAH
 

Malik495

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
hum mein say aksar nimaz nahin padhtay aur chalein hain isay condemn karnay....kam say kam yeh log namaz toh padhtay hain....un kay aimal un key aur Allah keh beech mein hai...lets focus on ourselves instead...

its not namaz by the way...its a clear violance of shariah.. if someone don't practice islam it doesnt mean he/she has to accept every wrong doing in the name of religion. its an act of disrespect of Quran and Sunnah. and we all have to condemn it.
 

mnmdxb

Minister (2k+ posts)
No Huma... no hanky panky with our deen, we should offer Salah, as did our prophet pbuh.
No additions, and no innovations!!!
 

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