Mazar Shareef falls without a bullet fired
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StarTrooper
MPA (400+ posts)
Do not know what game is being played?
sipa salaar
MPA (400+ posts)
NDS and RAW are frustrated
StarTrooper
MPA (400+ posts)
If the above news is true that Dostum along Afghan forces fled to Uzbekistan instead of fighting then be sure the game is being played by someone else instead of ISI
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Shiiiiiit so much for that legendary Afghan bravery and fighting till the last bullet and drop of blood. They are more chicken shit than the Kuwaitis. Took Saddam around hour, hour and half to invade Kuwait. The time needed to reach kuwait city from the Iraqi border.
Iconoclast
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Most Pashtuns are on Taliban's side... The rest of gunk bent over backwards when the Russians arrived, then Americans. The Shumali Ittehad is what the rest is called. Persians, uzbeks, tajiks etc.
PS: The day Pashtuns in Afghanistan start fighting against Taliban will be the day Taliban cease to exist..
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Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Then I hate to say it and I know you'll get upset but Afghan pashtoons are idiots then for supporting these savages.
Iconoclast
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
That's a matter of perspective.... you're entitled to yours....
StarTrooper
MPA (400+ posts)
Afghan Pusthuns are on the side of Danda. Who ever has a Danda majority of Afghan Pushtuns are with him
Against Russians it were Tajik Ahmad Shah Masood and Turk Dostum who fought and became heros not Pustun leaders
Raiwind-Destroyer
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Most-of-the-afgan-soliders-were-tarined-by-Muttar-indian-army
what-else-do-you-expect
what-else-do-you-expect
Common men look for alternatives IF they are suppressed and when they see that only a small portion of people are privileged and corrupt to the core. Taliban almost disappeared between 2002 and 2005 because people anticipated development and prosperity. But when Sharif's and zardaris of the Afghans took over the country, people had an option and the rest is history. Remember what happened in Bangladesh, Pakistanis asked for help from India against Pakistanis.
karachiwala
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
opening up the conspiracy that Taliban are killing people and blowing hospitals! every province that has fallen has fallen without fighting. let this sink in Taliban are NOT SAVAGES but brilliant tacticians and they have won without fighting
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I remember in the morning you were praising dostam and Tajiks and Uzbeks for standing against Talibans and bashing pashtoons for being surrendering to Talibans. Do you still stick to your thesis? I know from where you are coming...Iran and it's tricks are doomed!
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Fuck them all. Like I said Afghanistan was a shithole even before the Russians invaded and is still a shithole today. For me there is only one option deport all afghanis and seal the borders. Let them fuck each other over.
Nothing has changed, if they like to live in the stone ages, then let them
Eyeaan
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Afghans and pushtuns do not fight to Last Breath. That is western way of warfare which, however, all US training couldn't ingrained in Afghan soldiers. - which is good!
Current war in Afghanistan is going on for the last three months (or even more) and Talibans have already captured supply routs and major posts. Presently 5 or 6 out of 7 regiments are decapacitated. Only current capacity the government has is air power or power to defend Kabul.
In Pushtun war, when one group is surrounded with no sight of victory it surrenders and a safe passage is given to retire/exile - (if there are tribal elders they are given respect after surrender)- that is part of Pukhtunwali and old tradition of warfare. (Rules are different when personal animosity or honor is involved, unlike territorial claims. even then often it ends in exile.) History is testimony to this tradition. How Osama was let go in tora bora? (But ussr led communists had not followed this tradition). However afghan don't give up ever or accept they were conquered and they continue war at a later time. War and fight for honor is a way of life in afghan/pushtoon triball traditions and not a matter of life and death. So the current situation cannot be judged on western standards.
About air power - US has agreement in place for not attacking but they have violated it twice recently however they hit a hospital and a school. That attack (or breeching agreement) was a big mistake. and now they have to fear about their embassy -- although real danger to western embassies is from afghan government sponsored groups or IS Daesh - Taliban are least expected to hit Nato. When Ghani government used air force in Kudoz and Mizar Shareef and helicopters in lashkargharh there was much collateral damage. Current 1200+ death toll comes from such warfare. As it appears Ghani or his military is not going to kill their people at this scale - whatever US training.
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Saboo
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Hahaha….The name of the game is "Save your neck .run and don't look back or you will go blind."
Every one is afraid of the Talibans.
Together Northern alliance claim to represent all major non-Pashtun fractions, so technically they claim to represent majority of Afghanistan population but still they are failing miserably and surrendering without putting up any fight.
Result is the rapid advance of Talibans. This couldn’t ve been possible without support from common people. Which is what Western media doesn’t want to accept or report.
in reality normal Afghani tajiks, uzbeks and hazara people must be sick and tired of these Harami, corrupt and Londaybaz Warlords like Dostum, Atta Noor and Hekmatyar. These M****f***s are just like badmash in their respective areas with their own army of goons. Therefore for ordinary Afghans its a good riddance to see these cowards running for their life.
Result is the rapid advance of Talibans. This couldn’t ve been possible without support from common people. Which is what Western media doesn’t want to accept or report.
in reality normal Afghani tajiks, uzbeks and hazara people must be sick and tired of these Harami, corrupt and Londaybaz Warlords like Dostum, Atta Noor and Hekmatyar. These M****f***s are just like badmash in their respective areas with their own army of goons. Therefore for ordinary Afghans its a good riddance to see these cowards running for their life.
