Maybe Not Systematic Rigging But Surely Systematic Irregularity

Zain Itrat

Minister (2k+ posts)
When an election commission's irregularities always effect the big guns of one party,

and always other party gets benefits from those irregularities,

Then there's surely something systematic in those "irregularities".

Maybe rigging is not systematic and has no pattern,

But irregularities are clearly systematic and has a clear pattern.

which is serving only one party and thats PMLN

why those irregularities were not in favor of PTI

Point to ponder.


#NA154
#ElectionTribunal #Election2013

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chandaa

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Election 2013 is fully exposed by Allah(SWT). A deal was made to bring PML-N into power through systematic rigging. You can call rigging whatever you like but it is an open truth now.
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
An honest Party would itself have asked for implementation of law while conducting elections, so that everything is crystal clear..
 

Faisal Mian

Minister (2k+ posts)
I guess Keyani was also part of this systematic rigging while his brothers were busy making money from different projects in last 6 years...

DHACity Lahore is one of them
 

Zain Itrat

Minister (2k+ posts)
I guess Keyani was also part of this systematic rigging while his brothers were busy making money from different projects in last 6 years...

DHACity Lahore is one of them


Yes it was surely army that brought Nawaz Shareef In The "Greater Interest of Pakistan" so they can Get all the stuff approved from him Defense Ministry and Foreign Ministry And Then Army Courts... Imran Would Have Never Co-Operated and He would have tried to exercise his power in front of army and then his all notorious Taliban Dialogue policy was also not acceptable to Army. He would have resisted Operation Zarb-E-Azb. This was not digestible for Army. So All what Army is doing right now was not possible with Imran as a PM. :)
 

shahbaz tariq

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

Yes it was surely army that brought Nawaz Shareef In The "Greater Interest of Pakistan" so they can Get all the stuff approved from him Defense Ministry and Foreign Ministry And Then Army Courts... Imran Would Have Never Co-Operated and He would have tried to exercise his power in front of army and then his all notorious Taliban Dialogue policy was also not acceptable to Army. He would have resisted Operation Zarb-E-Azb. This was not digestible for Army. So All what Army is doing right now was not possible with Imran as a PM. :)

oh finally someone explain hole **** in one post... thank you Zain..... :biggthumpup:
 

sensible

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
زین صاحب اگر آپ کوئی پولنگ ایجنٹ ہیں تو آپ کا دماغ نہیں خراب آپ اپنی نوکری کی قیمت پر بے ظابطگی کریں گے.
اگر آپ کو پتا ہو آپ سے پوچھ گچھ ہو گی جو ذمہ داری آپ کو دی گئی اس پر جواب دہ ہونا پڑے گا تو آپ اپنی ڈیوٹی اسی طرح ایمانداری سے ادا کریں گے جتنی ایمانداری سے تنخواہ وصول کرتے ہیں ہمارے سیاسی ڈاکوؤں نے اسی بات کا سہارا لے کر پولنگ ایجنٹوں کو استعمال کرنا ہوتا ہے دھاندلی کرنے کو کوئی نہ بولے تو جیتے رہتے ہیں کوئی بولے تو کچرا پولنگ ایجنٹوں کے سر ڈال کر بے ضابطگی بن جاتی ہے .پاکستانی ہونے کی حیثیت سے ہم جانتے ہیں یہ دھاندلی کا ہی طریق کار ہے .اب بھی اتنا برا بحران ملک میں پیدا ہوا ہے کسی پولنگ اسٹیشن پر تعینات کسی پولنگ ایجنٹ کو بلا کر پوچھا نہیں گیا اتنے بڑے پیمانے پر تنخواہ وصول کر کے ایسی حرکتیں انہوں نے کس کے کہنے پر کیں جب کے ان کو ٹریس کرنا کوئی مشکل کام نہیں نہ ہی جعلی ووٹ ڈالنے والے کو ٹریس کرنا کوئی مشکل کام ہے آپ اب بھی اسے بے ضابطگی مانتے ہیں تو آپ کی اعلی ظرفی ہے.پورا پاکستان جانتا ہے دھاندلی کا نیا نام بے ضابطگی ہے
 

Zain Itrat

Minister (2k+ posts)
زین صاحب اگر آپ کوئی پولنگ ایجنٹ ہیں تو آپ کا دماغ نہیں خراب آپ اپنی نوکری کی قیمت پر بے ظابطگی کریں گے.
اگر آپ کو پتا ہو آپ سے پوچھ گچھ ہو گی جو ذمہ داری آپ کو دی گئی اس پر جواب دہ ہونا پڑے گا تو آپ اپنی ڈیوٹی اسی طرح ایمانداری سے ادا کریں گے جتنی ایمانداری سے تنخواہ وصول کرتے ہیں ہمارے سیاسی ڈاکوؤں نے اسی بات کا سہارا لے کر پولنگ ایجنٹوں کو استعمال کرنا ہوتا ہے دھاندلی کرنے کو کوئی نہ بولے تو جیتے رہتے ہیں کوئی بولے تو کچرا پولنگ ایجنٹوں کے سر ڈال کر بے ضابطگی بن جاتی ہے .پاکستانی ہونے کی حیثیت سے ہم جانتے ہیں یہ دھاندلی کا ہی طریق کار ہے .اب بھی اتنا برا بحران ملک میں پیدا ہوا ہے کسی پولنگ اسٹیشن پر تعینات کسی پولنگ ایجنٹ کو بلا کر پوچھا نہیں گیا اتنے بڑے پیمانے پر تنخواہ وصول کر کے ایسی حرکتیں انہوں نے کس کے کہنے پر کیں جب کے ان کو ٹریس کرنا کوئی مشکل کام نہیں نہ ہی جعلی ووٹ ڈالنے والے کو ٹریس کرنا کوئی مشکل کام ہے آپ اب بھی اسے بے ضابطگی مانتے ہیں تو آپ کی اعلی ظرفی ہے.پورا پاکستان جانتا ہے دھاندلی کا نیا نام بے ضابطگی ہے

بیشک سر میرا ساری کتھا کا مقصد یہی تھا کے
"کتی چوراں نال رلی ہے "
اور یہ بے ضابطگیاں ہمیشہ ایک ہی فریق کو فائدہ کیوں پہنچا رہی ہے ؟
تین نتائج آئے تینوں میں بے ضابطگیوں کا فائدہ ایک ہی فریق کو ؟
لہٰذہ میرا مطلب تھا کے چلو منظم دھاندلی نہ سہی مگر بے ضابطگیاں ضرور منظم ہیں
اور وہ ایک ہی فریق کو فائدہ پہنچا رہی ہیں لہٰذہ دھاندلی کی ہی شکل ہیں اور وہ بھی منظم

 
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Zain Itrat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Inta to BB bhee nahian roti thee election harney kay baad.

کاش روی ہوتیں تو یہ انتخابی نظام تب ہی بہتر ہوگیا ہوتا
مگر خان کے علاوہ کوئی نہیں کھڑا ہوا لوگوں کے ووٹ کے حق اور تقدس کے لئے
بیوقوف ہی نکلا ہے باقیوں جتنا سیانہ جو نہیں ہے
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

Yes it was surely army that brought Nawaz Shareef In The "Greater Interest of Pakistan" so they can Get all the stuff approved from him Defense Ministry and Foreign Ministry And Then Army Courts... Imran Would Have Never Co-Operated and He would have tried to exercise his power in front of army and then his all notorious Taliban Dialogue policy was also not acceptable to Army. He would have resisted Operation Zarb-E-Azb. This was not digestible for Army. So All what Army is doing right now was not possible with Imran as a PM. :)

But at the time Kiyani supported NS in 2013 elections there was NO Operation Zarb E Azab, in fact Kiyani was against the idea of an operation. As Taliban dialogue all he said was STOP drones first which is the main source of recruitment of terrorism and speak to them, try to dissociate the people of Wariztan from TTP with truth and reconcialiation.

US and other foreign powers did not want IK as leader so army which was influenced by the powers did not want IK either, also IK was persistent on stopping drones army was not. Finally as someone pointed out Kiyani was making money not sure how true it was but it does make sense why Kiyani helped NS.

Also you mentioned army brought NS so that they could approve army courts and get all the stuff from defence ministry, If Kiyani wanted army courts he would have had them in Zardari time, but his performance was near enough zero. Also I am sure IK would have approved want army wanted also allowed milatary courts if necessary.
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
PTI lost all by-elections so far.
It is 6-0 so far. Lets make it 9-0.

Good decision by PMLN

how do we really know those bye elections were free and fair? The three have been exposed as irregularities, and I am pretty sure there will be a fourth wicket very soon. I hope govt plays it fair this time round in the four that have been exposed, but if the same status quo machinery is used then yes it will bee 9-0
 

Zain Itrat

Minister (2k+ posts)
But at the time Kiyani supported NS in 2013 elections there was NO Operation Zarb E Azab, in fact Kiyani was against the idea of an operation. As Taliban dialogue all he said was STOP drones first which is the main source of recruitment of terrorism and speak to them, try to dissociate the people of Wariztan from TTP with truth and reconcialiation.

US and other foreign powers did not want IK as leader so army which was influenced by the powers did not want IK either, also IK was persistent on stopping drones army was not. Finally as someone pointed out Kiyani was making money not sure how true it was but it does make sense why Kiyani helped NS.

Also you mentioned army brought NS so that they could approve army courts and get all the stuff from defence ministry, If Kiyani wanted army courts he would have had them in Zardari time, but his performance was near enough zero. Also I am sure IK would have approved want army wanted also allowed milatary courts if necessary.



Respect;3472863]But at the time Kiyani supported NS in 2013 elections there was NO Operation Zarb E Azab, in fact Kiyani was against the idea of an operation. As Taliban dialogue all he said was STOP drones first which is the main source of recruitment of terrorism and speak to them, try to dissociate the people of Wariztan from TTP with truth and reconcialiation.

Zarbe-E-Azb had a different name back then and it was North Wazirastan Operation. but Zarb-E-Azb of course had more space to cover its a countrywide Operation. so in other words Zarb-E-Azb was very much there.

US and other foreign powers did not want IK as leader so army which was influenced by the powers did not want IK either, also IK was persistent on stopping drones army was not. Finally as someone pointed out Kiyani was making money not sure how true it was but it does make sense why Kiyani helped NS.

Yes global powers didn want IK in Power as they considered him a pro militancy and Taliban apologist. they just had this misconception due to his stance of Dialogue. and many of his supporters didn't agree to him on his this stance I am one of them.

Also you mentioned army brought NS so that they could approve army courts and get all the stuff from defence ministry, If Kiyani wanted army courts he would have had them in Zardari time, but his performance was near enough zero. Also I am sure IK would have approved want army wanted also allowed milatary courts if necessary

Zardari was smart he has been having confrontation with army and kept them busy in many other shits like memo gate etc and dragged an army chief to the court in that. so NO!! Getting Powers of defense and foreign ministery from Zardari was not a piece of cake. Army has never been comfortable with PPP.
 

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