MANUFACTURED REVOLUTION IN SYRIA: USUAL SUSPECTS USA And UK

[crankthskunk]

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well, what else we expect. The hub of manufactured revolution in Syria exposed by a techie, the training to revolutionary is given in Turkey.

Sunday, August 26, 2012

Britain and US plan a Syrian revolution from an innocuous office block in Istanbul



An underground network of Syrian opposition activists is receiving training and supplies of vital equipment from a combined American and British effort to forge an effective alternative to the Damascus regime.
Dozens of dissidents have been ferried out of Syria to be vetted for foreign backing. Recipients of the aid are given satellite communications and computers so that they can act as a local "hub" linking local activists and the outside world.

The training takes place in an Istanbul district where handsome apartment blocks line the steep slopes and rooftop terraces boast views over the Golden Horn waterway.

Behind closed doors the distractions of outdoor coffee shops and clothing boutiques gives way to power point displays charting the mayhem sweeping Syria.

"We are not 'king-making' in Syria. The UK and the US are moving cautiously to help what has been developing within Syria to improve the capabilities of the opposition," said a British consultant overseeing the programme. "What's going to come next? Who is going to control territory across Syria. We want to give civilians the skills to assert leadership."

Once up and running dissidents can expect help to deal with local shortages and troubleshooting advice from sympathisers.

But the activists also face two days of vetting designed to ensure that the programme does not fall into the trap of promoting sectarian agendas or the rise of al-Qaeda-style fundamentalists.

"Rather than being about promoting political platforms in Syria, it's about creating a patchwork of people who share common values," the consultant said.

The schemes are overseen by the US State Department's Office of Syrian Opposition Support (OSOS) and Foreign Office officials. America has set aside $25 million for political opponents of President Bashar al-Assad while Britain is granting 5 million to the cause of overthrowing the regime.

Mina al-Homsi (a pseudonym) is one of the first graduates of the training.

She now spends her days plotting how to spread seditious messages throughout her homeland through her own network, named Basma.

One of its main activities is to repackage video shot by amateurs into a format that can be used by broadcasters.

In addition to running online television and radio forums, the Basma team have had "tens of thousands" of satirical stickers depicting President Bashar al-Assad as a featherless duck for distribution as agitprop.

"It comes from the emails that his wife Asma sent to him calling him duckie and the cartoon duck is featherless to show that he is an emperor with no clothes," she said. "People will stick them on walls, on car doors, on dispensers in restaurants and those who have not yet joined the revolution will know that we are everywhere."

Foreign intervention in civil wars has proven to be a perilous undertaking since the end of the Cold War but in Syria where an invasion has proven unfeasible, diplomats have had to resort to creative thinking.

It was the legacy of non-intervention, however, that provided the spark for the schemes now backing Basma and others.

An initiative, proposed by Foreign Secretary William Hague, to document evidence of crimes committed in the fighting for use in potential International Criminal Court trials, has been transformed into the multinational project to build Syria's next governing class.

"This has been a generational coming of age," said the consultant, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "The Foreign Secretary started this as a way to make sure that people who committed crimes in Syria would be held to account. Those of us with experience of the Balkans have taken the lessons of that conflict very much as a formative experience."

With the entry of American funding for a much wider scheme, the need to avoid the mistakes of wars in Afghanistan and Iraq has also driven the planning.

"It's also not Iraq or Afghanistan – there are no bundles of cash being dropped on the problem without accountability," he said.

Jon Wilks, the Foreign Office diplomat who serves as envoy to the Syrian opposition, told the Arabic newspaper al Sharq al Aswat last week that Britain was already working to lay the foundations of democracy in a post-Assad Syria.

He said: "We must train activists on governing locally in villages and cities in Syria for the post-transitional phase."

Officials are adamant there will be no crossover between the civilian "non-lethal" assistance and the military campaign waged by the rebel fighters.

The scheme has, however, infuriated the exiled opposition body, the Syrian National Council. Its failure to provide a united and coherent front against the regime has led some western officials to brief privately that foreign governments were shifting support beyond the exiled body.

But in a barely furnished office in a tower block near Istanbul airport an SNC official decried the false promises of its allies. "We've heard a lot of promises from the very beginning of the SNC but none of those have been fulfilled," the SNC official said. "This has reflected absolutely negatively on our work. The opposition of Syria wants the world to provide humanitarian aid for the people in need and the Free Syria Army wants intervention to stop planes bombing their positions.

"Instead they go around behind our back undermining our role."

A Whitehall official said the effort was not about building an alternative to the SNC but a means to enhance the role of those dissidents still within Syria.

Victoria Nuland, the State Department spokesman, confirmed the OSOS programme last week and said its full effect would only be seen when President Assad leaves office.

"There are groups inside and outside Syria beginning to plan for that day-after and beginning to plan for how they might quickly stand up at least that first stage of transition so that we could move on when Assad goes, because he will go."




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[wadera]

Syria is history and all roads lead to Iran for the next target ... collateral damage will be Pakistan ..

UNLESS .. our useless leaders wake up ..

 

[seekers]

i feel no wonder when some analyst promoting "jihadis" in Syria unintentionally even they know their support from number of stakeholders( US,UK,Israel, Saudis, Qatar,uae, and Alqaeda) . I have expressed many time here that the Syrian society have no match with Iran. i am saying this on basis of my own personal experience of 2 year in Syria. This is open society where everyone has given rights to live as per his religion. No restrictions over any Shia or sunni mosques , churches . Syrian govt is more socialist but not Islamic.
This is quite hard for Syria to solely fight against number of stake holders of jihadis, so help of Iran China and Russia should be no wonder for criticizers.

 

[fasmik]

Bro! Iran and hizbollah is involved with Asad regime. How can you find Iranians and lebanese shia pilgrims in Syria at this time of war?
On the other hand Saudi, qatar, uae supporting rebels....Muslims killing muslims what a waste !

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

Bro! Iran and hizbollah is involved with Asad regime. How can you find Iranians and lebanese shia pilgrims in Syria at this time of war?
On the other hand Saudi, qatar, uae supporting rebels....Muslims killing muslims what a waste !

This is not something which the above countries , KSA,UAE, QATAR have done first time. They are the ears and the eyes of USA and Isreal.They have historical participated in every war USA fought against Islamic Countries and helped USA achieve its mischevious goals. Either it is Iraq,Afghanistan, Yemen or Sudan, The Saudi and other gulf midgets get together under American flag and work to bring USA objectives. Recently, they are busy buying USA arms and equipment, trying to protect ( I just have to laugh) themselves against perceived Iranian threat. These munks don't have a brian of their own, they run on the fuel of other powers . So sickning to see their behaviour.

 

[fasmik]

This is not something which the above countries , KSA,UAE, QATAR have done first time. They are the ears and the eyes of USA and Isreal.They have historical participated in every war USA fought against Islamic Countries and helped USA achieve its mischevious goals. Either it is Iraq,Afghanistan, Yemen or Sudan, The Saudi and other gulf midgets get together under American flag and work to bring USA objectives. Recently, they are busy buying USA arms and equipment, trying to protect ( I just have to laugh) themselves against perceived Iranian threat. These munks don't have a brian of their own, they run on the fuel of other powers . So sickning to see their behaviour.

I agree! But what should be our stance in such situations? Secondly do u think it is easy for US to bring about regime changes in countries. Fact is that both Iran and saudi are wrong and responsible for killing of innocent muslims. Both are pathatic. Iran defending shia interests and never spoke rather facilitated US in iraq and Afghanistan. All northern alliance was equipped and trained by Iran against taliban. On the other hand Saudi funded taliban and saddam against iraq. How can we take sides in Pakistan when we have to suffer in their dirty game?
I think the true justice will be done only when every muslim country will be governed by true representatives of its people. So this will mean No Asad Alawi regime in syria and No sunni govt in bahrain. What do u say?

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

I agree! But what should be our stance in such situations? Secondly do u think it is easy for US to bring about regime changes in countries. Fact is that both Iran and saudi are wrong and responsible for killing of innocent muslims. Both are pathatic. Iran defending shia interests and never spoke rather facilitated US in iraq and Afghanistan. All northern alliance was equipped and trained by Iran against taliban. On the other hand Saudi funded taliban and saddam against iraq. How can we take sides in Pakistan when we have to suffer in their dirty game?
I think the true justice will be done only when every muslim country will be governed by true representatives of its people. So this will mean No Asad Alawi regime in syria and No sunni govt in bahrain. What do u say?

If you look in the historical prospective, Iran never invaded any country in its history.It always, as any other country would, made decision to safeguard its interests. During the time of shah of Iran, Iranian priorities were definately associated with west. After the Iranian revolution, those pririties were also changed. However, compare this to KSA and other Westerned Influenced Arab states, Their behaviour and their cooperation with west never ended. Their rulers were autocrats and dependent on western assistance to stay in power. They were either black mailed or have willingly agreed to side with western and American agenda in last 60 or 70 years. Its so shameful history of their individual rivaly that Muslim Umma wouldn't be able to digest their patty and daily issues among themselves. It is not a Shia or Sunni Issue. They can't even pass gases without asking Americans first.The majority of Shias and sunnis have nothing to do with their political motivated decisions. How pathatic you can get, when on the pressure of American policy makers, you start to make billions of dollars worth of military hardware for the troops which never even trained to use them. And this is all against the wishes of the majority of their population. Only because American started to scare them against Iran and its perceived Bomb, They all prepare to net the conspiracy against another Muslim Country to please USA. Off course, Iran , being isolated, will have to work to build its own parameters for its security when it sees the Muslims countries along with Jewish state and other Western countries open up a common front against the Iranian interests. Compare to other Arab counrtries, The Iranian regime and Government is more representive of its population. Better than the autocratic regimes and kingdoms in the region.

 

[fasmik]

If you look in the historical prospective, Iran never invaded any country in its history.It always, as any other country would, made decision to safeguard its interests. During the time of shah of Iran, Iranian priorities were definately associated with west. After the Iranian revolution, those pririties were also changed. However, compare this to KSA and other Westerned Influenced Arab states, Their behaviour and their cooperation with west never ended. Their rulers were autocrats and dependent on western assistance to stay in power. They were either black mailed or have willingly agreed to side with western and American agenda in last 60 or 70 years. Its so shameful history of their individual rivaly that Muslim Umma wouldn't be able to digest their patty and daily issues among themselves. It is not a Shia or Sunni Issue. They can't even pass gases without asking Americans first.The majority of Shias and sunnis have nothing to do with their political motivated decisions. How pathatic you can get, when on the pressure of American policy makers, you start to make billions of dollars worth of military hardware for the troops which never even trained to use them. And this is all against the wishes of the majority of their population. Only because American started to scare them against Iran and its perceived Bomb, They all prepare to net the conspiracy against another Muslim Country to please USA. Off course, Iran , being isolated, will have to work to build its own parameters for its security when it sees the Muslims countries along with Jewish state and other Western countries open up a common front against the Iranian interests. Compare to other Arab counrtries, The Iranian regime and Government is more representive of its population. Better than the autocratic regimes and kingdoms in the region.

I partially agree, & leaving aside the GCC states whose designs and pro US polices are evident. Lets discuss Iran first, please do not say that Iran never invaded any country. It provided arms and even forces to Northern alliance in afghanistan when it fully cooperated with US to fight the taliban even tough taliban never threatened iran. Secondly Iran's true representative, armed and equipped force hizbollah has taken over lebanon. Altough it has public support but decency never allows a force which is rep of 40% of the population. But yet i think hizbollah initiative against israel is appreciable.Thirdly there is evidence that iranian forces are fighting rebels in syria. I understand that at least iran has the ideologial and moral legitimacy to repel any attack and they were clearly the victims of agression in iran iraq war. here it is true that iran has the strength to forbid any aggression by US/Israel towards itself. May be the biggest defence will be oil route supply disruption as we all know the sorry state of its airforce and navy.
As for saudi, they are undoubtly insolent and behave as p!mps for the US. They in defiance of Allah's orders did not built any strong army and any force to be truly soverign and hence made US their masters. They are despicable and will never be safe this way. They illude themselves, their people and the entire Muslim Ummah. They will suffer sooner or later at the hand of their masters.

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

I partially agree, & leaving aside the GCC states whose designs and pro US polices are evident. Lets discuss Iran first, please do not say that Iran never invaded any country. It provided arms and even forces to Northern alliance in afghanistan when it fully cooperated with US to fight the taliban even tough taliban never threatened iran. Secondly Iran's true representative, armed and equipped force hizbollah has taken over lebanon. Altough it has public support but decency never allows a force which is rep of 40% of the population. But yet i think hizbollah initiative against israel is appreciable.Thirdly there is evidence that iranian forces are fighting rebels in syria. I understand that at least iran has the ideologial and moral legitimacy to repel any attack and they were clearly the victims of agression in iran iraq war. here it is true that iran has the strength to forbid any aggression by US/Israel towards itself. May be the biggest defence will be oil route supply disruption as we all know the sorry state of its airforce and navy.
As for saudi, they are undoubtly insolent and behave as p!mps for the US. They in defiance of Allah's orders did not built any strong army and any force to be truly soverign and hence made US their masters. They are despicable and will never be safe this way. They illude themselves, their people and the entire Muslim Ummah. They will suffer sooner or later at the hand of their masters.

Correct me if I am wrong, I did say that Iran never Invaded any country as an aggressor. In the even of assisting Northern Alliance, I think their behaviour was condemable, never the less, it was not out right invasion and trempling of the sovereignty of another country. Iran has become , as you mentioned, itself a victim of aggression of many countries in the past. I am not a apologist of Iranian history of any wrogfull mistakes, but compare its conduct with the most other muslims countries and you will find , it is the only country which furiously opposing international interfarence in to other countries internal affairs. It is the only country, which looks to offer any kind of resistance to the hegemony of western powers. It is the only country which opposes the illegal and illegetimate expansions of Isreali policies and threats to stop it by force. As far as Saudi Arabia and other Arab Countries are concerned, they are as you mentioned, a disgraced to the Islam. Instead of leading the Islamic Block, The current and former Saudi Arabian Government policies were caused of the disunity among Muslim countries only because of their slave like nature and bowing to the American and western pressure. They are the jokes of the Muslim umma and a sore to the eyes of the historian for the last half a century and more. They are incompetent,corrupt and wasteful of time and money. They are unable to resolve the Palestinian issue,neither able to be victorious against a comparably small Isreali force. You can see their long que heading to the open UAE border at each Thursday night. What a shame for an Islamic population and their leaders.

 

[fasmik]

Correct me if I am wrong, I did say that Iran never Invaded any country as an aggressor. In the even of assisting Northern Alliance, I think their behaviour was condemable, never the less, it was not out right invasion and trempling of the sovereignty of another country. Iran has become , as you mentioned, itself a victim of aggression of many countries in the past. I am not a apologist of Iranian history of any wrogfull mistakes, but compare its conduct with the most other muslims countries and you will find , it is the only country which furiously opposing international interfarence in to other countries internal affairs. It is the only country, which looks to offer any kind of resistance to the hegemony of western powers. It is the only country which opposes the illegal and illegetimate expansions of Isreali policies and threats to stop it by force. As far as Saudi Arabia and other Arab Countries are concerned, they are as you mentioned, a disgraced to the Islam. Instead of leading the Islamic Block, The current and former Saudi Arabian Government policies were caused of the disunity among Muslim countries only because of their slave like nature and bowing to the American and western pressure. They are the jokes of the Muslim umma and a sore to the eyes of the historian for the last half a century and more. They are incompetent,corrupt and wasteful of time and money. They are unable to resolve the Palestinian issue,neither able to be victorious against a comparably small Isreali force. You can see their long que heading to the open UAE border at each Thursday night. What a shame for an Islamic population and their leaders.

For the sake of discussion, It is obvious that GCC block fears Iranian Atomic programme, whereas Saudi atomic ambitions have also being disclosed. I must say we as pakistanis are the most broad-minded of Islamic nations as we tried to help iran and a few others to access the right to atomic power and weapons, which is the right of any nation. What is the real fear of Saudis regarding Iranian Atomic weapons? Is is the outright supremacy of Shia Iran or a threat to israel, which these parteners seem to defend? We will also have to analyse the past history and behaviour of post revolution Iranian regime towards Saudi. Specially when Iran rightfully despises saudi and others for fully supporting iraq to wage a bloody war against them. Will iran forget all that and forgive the aggressors when it achieves WMD? can anyone guarentee non aggressive Iran who does not intend to pay back?
These fears are more or less genuine coz GCC states know their past deeds and fear retaliation from Iran as soon as it gains enough power. Will that also trigger a saudi nuclear programme for WMD? will israel accept that coz the despots ruling saudi will not last forever and their people are true islamists who hate israel to the core. What is ur take on my questions?

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

If the Iranian nuclear abmition triggers a domino effect on the rest of the regional countries, it will be a welcoming aspect as far as the regional security is concerned. It will be a disaster for western/Isreali and Americans.It would means that influence on these countries would come down to almost non existance. This is why Isreal and American also are after Iranian to stop building this Bomb. There will be no justification left for rest of the countries not to follow up.

And as you mentioned in your post, The past acts of helping adversaries of Iran by these small states are causing a lot of anxiety among their rulers now. I think Iran has understood it well that their long time survival and protection of their interest require them to have their own nuclear deterrence. Since, it has seen the over all behaviour of these slave countries and their mischevious agendas. In my opinion, The Iranian nuclear threat to the regional countries will only be a threat of a defensive nature. It would be a catastrophic for Iranian to even think about attacking KSA since there is so much sentiments of millions of muslims around the world have attached with that sacred land, but American will use this occasion to milk Saudi Arabia as much as it can. And given the nature of the Saudi rulers, I doubt very much if American will have any problem getting their way.