Malaysian Gov't Wins Right to Appeal 'Allah' Case

Liberal.Punjabi

Senator (1k+ posts)
Malaysian Gov't Wins Right to Appeal 'Allah' Case



Malaysia's government on Thursday won the right to appeal a court ruling that allowed the country's non-Muslim minority to use the word "Allah" to refer to God.


Appeal hearings are scheduled to start Sept. 10 to resolve the politically sensitive dispute that triggered attacks on Malaysian churches and other places of worship more than three years ago.


"Allah" is the Arabic word for God and is commonly used in the Malay language to refer to God.


The government, however, insists "Allah" is an Islamic word and that its use by others would confuse Muslims.


Roman Catholic representatives say the government's curb on their use of "Allah" is unreasonable because Christians who speak the Malay language had long also used the word to refer to God in their Bibles, literature and songs before authorities sought to enforce the ban in recent years.


A nearly 6-year-old court dispute over the issue stems from efforts by the newspaper of the Roman Catholic Church in Malaysia to use "Allah" in its Malay-language publication.


Malaysia's Court of Appeals ruled Thursday that the government has the right to challenge a 2009 verdict by a lower court that permitted the newspaper to use "Allah."


That earlier verdict sparked a string of arson attacks and vandalism at 11 churches, a Sikh temple, three mosques and two Muslim prayer rooms. The government's ban remains in effect because of a stay order on the verdict until the appeals process is completed.


Judge Abu Samah Nordin said Thursday that the dispute "is still a live issue," overruling church officials' contention that an appeal would be unjustified.


More than 100 Muslim activists gathered outside the court, with some shouting "Allahu Akbar," or "God is great," after the ruling.


The Rev. Lawrence Andrew, editor of the Catholic newspaper, The Herald, voiced disappointment but said his team would accept the ruling and argue its case next month.


The ban has become a symbol of grievances in Malaysia among Christian, Buddhist and Hindu minorities, who sometimes complain that their constitutional right to practice religion freely is undermined. The government denies any discrimination. Other disputes over the past decade include the demolition of temples illegally built on state-owned land.


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Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ایسی جھالت یا تو پاکستانی مولوی کر سکتے ھیں یا پھر ملائشین ۔ ملائشیا میں شراب سرعام پانی کی طرح پی جاتی ھے اور سوور کے گوشت کیلیے میلوں پر پھیلے ھوے فارم ھیں جن کے گوشت سے ملائشیا زرمبادلہ کماتا ھے اور وھاں کے عوام بھی کھاتے ھیں۔لڑکے اور لڑکی کے تعلقات یورپ کی طرح بغیر شادی کے ھوتے ھیں کوی عار نھیں سمجھا جاتا۔بس کوی لڑکا انکی لڑکی کے ساتھ ھونا چاھیے اور بڑے فخر سے کھتے ھیں کہ ھماری بیٹی کا فرینڈ ھے۔اب انکو اسلام کا کیا خاک پتا ھونا ھے ایسی ھی بونگیاں ماریں گے کہ کوی اللہ کا لفظ زبان پر نہ لاے
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Whatever they do they should argue according to Quran and sunah i am sure they will find a reference or a story regarding the use of the word Allah by non-muslims for their own god.
 

the.paki

Senator (1k+ posts)
ایسی جھالت یا تو پاکستانی مولوی کر سکتے ھیں یا پھر ملائشین ۔ ملائشیا میں شراب سرعام پانی کی طرح پی جاتی ھے اور سوور کے گوشت کیلیے میلوں پر پھیلے ھوے فارم ھیں جن کے گوشت سے ملائشیا زرمبادلہ کماتا ھے اور وھاں کے عوام بھی کھاتے ھیں۔لڑکے اور لڑکی کے تعلقات یورپ کی طرح بغیر شادی کے ھوتے ھیں کوی عار نھیں سمجھا جاتا۔بس کوی لڑکا انکی لڑکی کے ساتھ ھونا چاھیے اور بڑے فخر سے کھتے ھیں کہ ھماری بیٹی کا فرینڈ ھے۔اب انکو اسلام کا کیا خاک پتا ھونا ھے ایسی ھی بونگیاں ماریں گے کہ کوی اللہ کا لفظ زبان پر نہ لاے

acha . but i have seen malaysian girls in scarf most of time (in pictures and videos).
i know that malaysia is liberal in term of wine etc...
but this boyfriend girlfriend thing i didnt know about ..
are you sure about this ???
 

Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
acha . but i have seen malaysian girls in scarf most of time (in pictures and videos).
i know that malaysia is liberal in term of wine etc...
but this boyfriend girlfriend thing i didnt know about ..
are you sure about this ???
I have been studying there for quite a long time. most of my classs fellows were malaysians few were chinese.malaysian girls always use skarf but culture is same as i told in my early post.Being a Pakistani i feel shame but living together with boys and girls is very common there.some of my friends have been there for a long period and each of them have girl friends.malaysians are not hard workers leading jobs are occupied by europianss specially germans and british.malaysian boys with a gril friend whole the day drive motorbikes and enjoy.
 

the.paki

Senator (1k+ posts)
I have been studying there for quite a long time. most of my classs fellows were malaysians few were chinese.malaysian girls always use skarf but culture is same as i told in my early post.Being a Pakistani i feel shame but living together with boys and girls is very common there.some of my friends have been there for a long period and each of them have girl friends.malaysians are not hard workers leading jobs are occupied by europianss specially germans and british.malaysian boys with a gril friend whole the day drive motorbikes and enjoy.

Has any of pakistani married any malaysian girl ??
 

Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

Has any of pakistani married any malaysian girl ??
برادر ایک بات یاد رکھنا مشرق سے مغرب ساری دنیا گھوم لو اسلام اگر کچھ باقی ھے تو صرف پاکستان میں بے شک دھشت گردی ھے یا برداشت نھیں ھے فرقہ پرستی بھی ھے لیکن باقی سارے اسلامی ملکوں کے لوگوں سے مل چکا ھوں اور اپنی قوم ان سب میں بھت معصوم اور پیاری لگتی ھے باقی سب کوڑا ھو چکے ھیں صرف ملائشیا نھیں آپ نے ترکی نھیں دیکھا مصر بھی اسی طرح ھے
 

ranaji

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
acha . but i have seen malaysian girls in scarf most of time (in pictures and videos).
i know that malaysia is liberal in term of wine etc...
but this boyfriend girlfriend thing i didnt know about ..
are you sure about this ???
yes he is 100% right i have been there many times yeh log alcoholic perfume lagana haram samajhtey hain aur khulay aap beer aur whisky peetay hain ( not all but majority ) aur girl friend aur boy friend kaa khail yeh apney aap ko modren sabitt karney ke wastey khailtey hain aur bhi bohat si khirafat hain maggar kia faida inko discus karney kaa
 

ranaji

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم

برادر ایک بات یاد رکھنا مشرق سے مغرب ساری دنیا گھوم لو اسلام اگر کچھ باقی ھے تو صرف پاکستان میں بے شک دھشت گردی ھے یا برداشت نھیں ھے فرقہ پرستی بھی ھے لیکن باقی سارے اسلامی ملکوں کے لوگوں سے مل چکا ھوں اور اپنی قوم ان سب میں بھت معصوم اور پیاری لگتی ھے باقی سب کوڑا ھو چکے ھیں صرف ملائشیا نھیں آپ نے ترکی نھیں دیکھا مصر بھی اسی طرح ھے
aur shah ke dour mai iran to no. one thaa inn sabb khirafaat mai
 

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