Khari baat - 28th May 2012 - Hassan Nisar & Haroon Rasheed - Zardari wants to "BUY" next election??

[Khari Baat]

 

[PakistaniFirst]

Re: Khari baat - 28th May 2012 - Hassan Nisar & Haroon Rasheed - Planning?? nonsense Planning

A nice program to watch.

 

[munafiqqoom!]

Re: Khari baat - 28th May 2012 - Hassan Nisar & Haroon Rasheed - Planning?? nonsense Planning

hasan nisar zindabaad!!

 

[mkamd]

3 old guys with their own self fulfilling prophecies.

1- Haroon Rashid is obsessed with Imran and he thinks that he can fix anything. He does not question that neither Imran has any prior experience of running something of comparison nor he has an organized party to help him. When US President wins election, he brings 80 thousand people with him to run the governament. I doubt if Imran has even 80. At least PPP has a team to run governament. He is a one man show. His answer to all problems is " Pure Justice". However, he does not have an answer that even if he wins with absolute majority, how is going to balance Military, Civil beuracracy, Feudal Lords, corrupt Industrialized, organized crimes, nationalist movement, Taliban , Foreign countries,etc. These forces won't disappear with his victory and SJ can tackle them even today. Either he is too naive or he is fooling everyone. He is absolutely confrontational with everyone. Thats why you do not see him presenting any solution, but rather he always try to profit on confrontation and arguement.

Second is Hassan Nissar. He thinks bloody revolution as an answer. But with his imbecil thinking he does not realize that despite the fact Paksitan is bankrupted by the corruption of its ruling class, Pakistan's lower and middle class is also divided on religious or ethnic lines. Any revolution which will destroy rit of governament will leash free ethinic group and whole country will be divided on ethnic lines, perhaps after lot of blood shed, and will let neighbours take over small pieces of this country.

Third Nazir Naji, I do not think he is an honest brooker.

Matter of fact is that we need to admit that as a nation we are very corrupt, weak and divided. We do not have a single leader who is capable of delivering honestly, with concensus, and with long term vision. In such case our only hope is that we try to develop institutes which deliver these targets though downside is that this will be a very slow process. Despite all its weakness and corruption I am not disappointed by current government. We have to admit that Zardari is not as confrontational and hard head as Nawaz or Benazir. He has shown how to hold government even he does not have 50% votes. He is capable of sharing as he did with Nawaz, Altaf, JUI, ANP etc. He respects courts more than Nawaz himself did. He worked with confrontational forces like Army, beuracrates, courts, pressure group and passed several budgets and laws. Though he has a very tainted past, but not a single corruption case has arisen against him since he is the president. He gave all his powers of 58B. Though Gillani and his governament is corrupt but Zaradari has not tried to save them illegally. I would say in these circumstances he is the best you guys have got. Work with him and hope to find someone better in next 5-10 years.

 

[Sedqal]

@ mkamd, That was a great post! why don't you share your thoughts more often (bigsmile)

 

[rahulNYC]

3 old guys with their own self fulfilling prophecies.

1- Haroon Rashid is obsessed with Imran and he thinks that he can fix anything. He does not question that neither Imran has any prior experience of running something of comparison nor he has an organized party to help him. When US President wins election, he brings 80 thousand people with him to run the governament. I doubt if Imran has even 80. At least PPP has a team to run governament. He is a one man show. His answer to all problems is " Pure Justice". However, he does not have an answer that even if he wins with absolute majority, how is going to balance Military, Civil beuracracy, Feudal Lords, corrupt Industrialized, organized crimes, nationalist movement, Taliban , Foreign countries,etc. These forces won't disappear with his victory and SJ can tackle them even today. Either he is too naive or he is fooling everyone. He is absolutely confrontational with everyone. Thats why you do not see him presenting any solution, but rather he always try to profit on confrontation and arguement.

Second is Hassan Nissar. He thinks bloody revolution as an answer. But with his imbecil thinking he does not realize that despite the fact Paksitan is bankrupted by the corruption of its ruling class, Pakistan's lower and middle class is also divided on religious or ethnic lines. Any revolution which will destroy rit of governament will leash free ethinic group and whole country will be divided on ethnic lines, perhaps after lot of blood shed, and will let neighbours take over small pieces of this country.

Third Nazir Naji, I do not think he is an honest brooker.

Matter of fact is that we need to admit that as a nation we are very corrupt, weak and divided. We do not have a single leader who is capable of delivering honestly, with concensus, and with long term vision. In such case our only hope is that we try to develop institutes which deliver these targets though downside is that this will be a very slow process. Despite all its weakness and corruption I am not disappointed by current government. We have to admit that Zardari is not as confrontational and hard head as Nawaz or Benazir. He has shown how to hold government even he does not have 50% votes. He is capable of sharing as he did with Nawaz, Altaf, JUI, ANP etc. He respects courts more than Nawaz himself did. He worked with confrontational forces like Army, beuracrates, courts, pressure group and passed several budgets and laws. Though he has a very tainted past, but not a single corruption case has arisen against him since he is the president. He gave all his powers of 58B. Though Gillani and his governament is corrupt but Zaradari has not tried to save them illegally. I would say in these circumstances he is the best you guys have got. Work with him and hope to find someone better in next 5-10 years.

Mkamd,

Wtf is wrong with you ? You are not supposed to make sense on Pakistani forums. ;)

 

[Afraheem]

3 old guys with their own self fulfilling prophecies.

1- Haroon Rashid is obsessed with Imran and he thinks that he can fix anything. He does not question that neither Imran has any prior experience of running something of comparison nor he has an organized party to help him. When US President wins election, he brings 80 thousand people with him to run the governament. I doubt if Imran has even 80. At least PPP has a team to run governament. He is a one man show. His answer to all problems is " Pure Justice". However, he does not have an answer that even if he wins with absolute majority, how is going to balance Military, Civil beuracracy, Feudal Lords, corrupt Industrialized, organized crimes, nationalist movement, Taliban , Foreign countries,etc. These forces won't disappear with his victory and SJ can tackle them even today. Either he is too naive or he is fooling everyone. He is absolutely confrontational with everyone. Thats why you do not see him presenting any solution, but rather he always try to profit on confrontation and arguement.

Second is Hassan Nissar. He thinks bloody revolution as an answer. But with his imbecil thinking he does not realize that despite the fact Paksitan is bankrupted by the corruption of its ruling class, Pakistan's lower and middle class is also divided on religious or ethnic lines. Any revolution which will destroy rit of governament will leash free ethinic group and whole country will be divided on ethnic lines, perhaps after lot of blood shed, and will let neighbours take over small pieces of this country.

Third Nazir Naji, I do not think he is an honest brooker.

Matter of fact is that we need to admit that as a nation we are very corrupt, weak and divided. We do not have a single leader who is capable of delivering honestly, with concensus, and with long term vision. In such case our only hope is that we try to develop institutes which deliver these targets though downside is that this will be a very slow process. Despite all its weakness and corruption I am not disappointed by current government. We have to admit that Zardari is not as confrontational and hard head as Nawaz or Benazir. He has shown how to hold government even he does not have 50% votes. He is capable of sharing as he did with Nawaz, Altaf, JUI, ANP etc. He respects courts more than Nawaz himself did. He worked with confrontational forces like Army, beuracrates, courts, pressure group and passed several budgets and laws. Though he has a very tainted past, but not a single corruption case has arisen against him since he is the president. He gave all his powers of 58B. Though Gillani and his governament is corrupt but Zaradari has not tried to save them illegally. I would say in these circumstances he is the best you guys have got. Work with him and hope to find someone better in next 5-10 years.

علاج تو آپ کا یہ ہے کے آپ کا یہ سارا تبصرہ اردو ترجمے کر کے آپ کے گلے میں لٹکا کر عوام میں چھوڑا جائے تاکے آپ کے حقیقت پسندانہ باتیں لوگ پڑھ کر آپ کو حقیقت میں جواب دیں اللہ کا خوف کرو اور اس سے رحم کی التجا کرو کیوں اپنے آپ اور دوسروں کو ننگے دھوکے میں ڈال رے ہو تمھارے مطابق زرداری ہی ہماری آخری امید ہے اس سے اچھا ہے کے سری قوم زہر کھا کر مر جائے کیوں کے روز روز مرنے سے ایک دن ہی مر جانا اچھا ہے آج تک اس فورم پر میں نۓ اس سے بری چوال نہیں دیکھی اور نہ ہی میں نۓ کبھی اتنا افسوس کیا ہے کسی کی کم عقلی پر نورا لیگ کے کارکن بہت بولتے ہیں اور بیشمار بکواس کرتے ہیں لیکن آج آپ نۓ میدان مار لیا ایک ہی بال پر ٦ چکھے ماردیے آپ کی باتیں اتنی بکواس ہیں کے دل نہیں کر راہ ان کا جواب دینے کو کل بات کرتے ہیں آپ کی اس خودکش حملہ اور تحریر پر شب خیر

 

[imyrathore]

3 old guys with their own self fulfilling prophecies.

1- Haroon Rashid is obsessed with Imran and he thinks that he can fix anything. He does not question that neither Imran has any prior experience of running something of comparison nor he has an organized party to help him. When US President wins election, he brings 80 thousand people with him to run the governament. I doubt if Imran has even 80. At least PPP has a team to run governament. He is a one man show. His answer to all problems is " Pure Justice". However, he does not have an answer that even if he wins with absolute majority, how is going to balance Military, Civil beuracracy, Feudal Lords, corrupt Industrialized, organized crimes, nationalist movement, Taliban , Foreign countries,etc. These forces won't disappear with his victory and SJ can tackle them even today. Either he is too naive or he is fooling everyone. He is absolutely confrontational with everyone. Thats why you do not see him presenting any solution, but rather he always try to profit on confrontation and arguement.

Second is Hassan Nissar. He thinks bloody revolution as an answer. But with his imbecil thinking he does not realize that despite the fact Paksitan is bankrupted by the corruption of its ruling class, Pakistan's lower and middle class is also divided on religious or ethnic lines. Any revolution which will destroy rit of governament will leash free ethinic group and whole country will be divided on ethnic lines, perhaps after lot of blood shed, and will let neighbours take over small pieces of this country.

Third Nazir Naji, I do not think he is an honest brooker.

Matter of fact is that we need to admit that as a nation we are very corrupt, weak and divided. We do not have a single leader who is capable of delivering honestly, with concensus, and with long term vision. In such case our only hope is that we try to develop institutes which deliver these targets though downside is that this will be a very slow process. Despite all its weakness and corruption I am not disappointed by current government. We have to admit that Zardari is not as confrontational and hard head as Nawaz or Benazir. He has shown how to hold government even he does not have 50% votes. He is capable of sharing as he did with Nawaz, Altaf, JUI, ANP etc. He respects courts more than Nawaz himself did. He worked with confrontational forces like Army, beuracrates, courts, pressure group and passed several budgets and laws. Though he has a very tainted past, but not a single corruption case has arisen against him since he is the president. He gave all his powers of 58B. Though Gillani and his governament is corrupt but Zaradari has not tried to save them illegally. I would say in these circumstances he is the best you guys have got. Work with him and hope to find someone better in next 5-10 years.

Bud not sure where ur coming from but seriously PPP has people to run government now thats the joke of the century. If u call the last 4.5 yrs of rule governance then u r taking some strong stuff - zardari and nawas between them have destroyed every institution in pak whilst making a mint for themselves. Mate people like u complicate and present issues like ther is no bloody hope and u have to stick with status qou mafia. ther many examples where good sincere leadership can make a transformational difference to a country / state. Nitish Kumar turned Bihar around from it being a basket case to one of the fastest growing states in India (he focused on eliminating corruption at the top - which goes against the approach of zardari, gilani, sharif etc), Erdogan did the same in turkey - his first term was focused on nursing the economy back into health after years of mismanagement and then the second and third term once he had established a strong economy and hence support from the people he tackled the military head on. Bud u carry on supporting zardari n co like a true slave but the rest of pak if given a chance would hang em.

 

[Sedqal]

@ mkamd, That was a great post! why don't you share your thoughts more often​

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No need to answer, now I know why (bigsmile)

 

[sherkhan314]

علاج تو آپ کا یہ ہے کے آپ کا یہ سارا تبصرہ اردو ترجمے کر کے آپ کے گلے میں لٹکا کر عوام میں چھوڑا جائے تاکے آپ کے حقیقت پسندانہ باتیں لوگ پڑھ کر آپ کو حقیقت میں جواب دیں اللہ کا خوف کرو اور اس سے رحم کی التجا کرو کیوں اپنے آپ اور دوسروں کو ننگے دھوکے میں ڈال رے ہو تمھارے مطابق زرداری ہی ہماری آخری امید ہے اس سے اچھا ہے کے سری قوم زہر کھا کر مر جائے کیوں کے روز روز مرنے سے ایک دن ہی مر جانا اچھا ہے آج تک اس فورم پر میں نۓ اس سے بری چوال نہیں دیکھی اور نہ ہی میں نۓ کبھی اتنا افسوس کیا ہے کسی کی کم عقلی پر نورا لیگ کے کارکن بہت بولتے ہیں اور بیشمار بکواس کرتے ہیں لیکن آج آپ نۓ میدان مار لیا ایک ہی بال پر ٦ چکھے ماردیے آپ کی باتیں اتنی بکواس ہیں کے دل نہیں کر راہ ان کا جواب دینے کو کل بات کرتے ہیں آپ کی اس خودکش حملہ اور تحریر پر شب خیر

Likhnay walay ko Chittar maarnay ka bohat shukriya. Woh post isi liaq hai

 

[nomishah]

which column are they referring to?

 

[sherkhan314]

Naji ki kafi "Phatti" wi hai is program mein.

obviously hassan nisar aur Haroon Rasheed ki presence mein.

Yehi haal iska tha jab Imran Khan se aik show mein questions kar raha tha. Darpok sala

 

[InsafianPTI]

wow a zardari lover is still alive in this world??
I'm amazed at you passion, love,trust and obsession about ZORDARI!
(bigsmile)
aap mernay key baad seedhay janaat mein jaein gaye

3 old guys with their own self fulfilling prophecies.

1- Haroon Rashid is obsessed with Imran and he thinks that he can fix anything. He does not question that neither Imran has any prior experience of running something of comparison nor he has an organized party to help him. When US President wins election, he brings 80 thousand people with him to run the governament. I doubt if Imran has even 80. At least PPP has a team to run governament. He is a one man show. His answer to all problems is " Pure Justice". However, he does not have an answer that even if he wins with absolute majority, how is going to balance Military, Civil beuracracy, Feudal Lords, corrupt Industrialized, organized crimes, nationalist movement, Taliban , Foreign countries,etc. These forces won't disappear with his victory and SJ can tackle them even today. Either he is too naive or he is fooling everyone. He is absolutely confrontational with everyone. Thats why you do not see him presenting any solution, but rather he always try to profit on confrontation and arguement.

Second is Hassan Nissar. He thinks bloody revolution as an answer. But with his imbecil thinking he does not realize that despite the fact Paksitan is bankrupted by the corruption of its ruling class, Pakistan's lower and middle class is also divided on religious or ethnic lines. Any revolution which will destroy rit of governament will leash free ethinic group and whole country will be divided on ethnic lines, perhaps after lot of blood shed, and will let neighbours take over small pieces of this country.

Third Nazir Naji, I do not think he is an honest brooker.

Matter of fact is that we need to admit that as a nation we are very corrupt, weak and divided. We do not have a single leader who is capable of delivering honestly, with concensus, and with long term vision. In such case our only hope is that we try to develop institutes which deliver these targets though downside is that this will be a very slow process. Despite all its weakness and corruption I am not disappointed by current government. We have to admit that Zardari is not as confrontational and hard head as Nawaz or Benazir. He has shown how to hold government even he does not have 50% votes. He is capable of sharing as he did with Nawaz, Altaf, JUI, ANP etc. He respects courts more than Nawaz himself did. He worked with confrontational forces like Army, beuracrates, courts, pressure group and passed several budgets and laws. Though he has a very tainted past, but not a single corruption case has arisen against him since he is the president. He gave all his powers of 58B. Though Gillani and his governament is corrupt but Zaradari has not tried to save them illegally. I would say in these circumstances he is the best you guys have got. Work with him and hope to find someone better in next 5-10 years.

 

[InsafianPTI]

hey seems like you like zordari too much, should we not send him to US and india?
I bet if we can do that, pak don't need to built an army, our enemies will definitely die, and die very quick!Guaranteed!

Mkamd,

Wtf is wrong with you ? You are not supposed to make sense on Pakistani forums. ;)

 

[InsafianPTI]

they were first talking about Haroon rasheed column the latest one(it is on this forum in siasat discussion section) and then hassan nissar column, which is also the latest one and in the same section.

which column are they referring to?

 

[InsafianPTI]

what happened to nazeer naji?:13:

Haroon sahib and hassan both had a real go at nawaz and he didn't defend him, not even tried:13:

what is going on, did he have a change of heart?

 

[alimohsan52]

what happened to nazeer naji?:13:

Haroon sahib and hassan both had a real go at nawaz and he didn't defend him, not even tried:13:

what is going on, did he have a change of heart?

The ship is sinking and the rats are the first to run, maybe he realizes he is no longer a potent force.

 

[Nice2MU]

علاج تو آپ کا یہ ہے کے آپ کا یہ سارا تبصرہ اردو ترجمے کر کے آپ کے گلے میں لٹکا کر عوام میں چھوڑا جائے تاکے آپ کے حقیقت پسندانہ باتیں لوگ پڑھ کر آپ کو حقیقت میں جواب دیں اللہ کا خوف کرو اور اس سے رحم کی التجا کرو کیوں اپنے آپ اور دوسروں کو ننگے دھوکے میں ڈال رے ہو تمھارے مطابق زرداری ہی ہماری آخری امید ہے اس سے اچھا ہے کے سری قوم زہر کھا کر مر جائے کیوں کے روز روز مرنے سے ایک دن ہی مر جانا اچھا ہے آج تک اس فورم پر میں نۓ اس سے بری چوال نہیں دیکھی اور نہ ہی میں نۓ کبھی اتنا افسوس کیا ہے کسی کی کم عقلی پر نورا لیگ کے کارکن بہت بولتے ہیں اور بیشمار بکواس کرتے ہیں لیکن آج آپ نۓ میدان مار لیا ایک ہی بال پر ٦ چکھے ماردیے آپ کی باتیں اتنی بکواس ہیں کے دل نہیں کر راہ ان کا جواب دینے کو کل بات کرتے ہیں آپ کی اس خودکش حملہ اور تحریر پر شب خیر

Thanks buddy you saved our time but usually I don't read such rubbish because I don't have so much patience. But I must appreciate your patience for reading such idiotic writings.

 

[rahulNYC]

hey seems like you like zordari too much, should we not send him to US and india?
I bet if we can do that, pak don't need to built an army, our enemies will definitely die, and die very quick!Guaranteed!

The problem is that you pakistanis need to stop looking at things in black and white. And be very wary of people who portray things as such....for example : Imran Khan, Sheikh Rasheed etc etc. The issues facing Pakistan today are as grey as they come. Bravado , displayed often by IK and SR, will make the problems worse and worse.

 

[InsafianPTI]

Thanks very much, I am happy to see things in black and white, by the way who are you to tell me anything about OUR matters! maybe you should Mind your own business!
Don't care about sheikh rasheed but IF what IK says, if he does that, and say it goes worse, we are ready for it! BE IT!
Why die in 10 days, why not die tomorrow!

so seems like you would be happy to have zordari, so when we through him out soon, you are very welcomed to have him!

The problem is that you pakistanis need to stop looking at things in black and white. And be very wary of people who portray things as such....for example : Imran Khan, Sheikh Rasheed etc etc. The issues facing Pakistan today are as grey as they come. Bravado , displayed often by IK and SR, will make the problems worse and worse.