Justice Shaukat Siddiqui removal is not enough, he Deserves Much more..should be charged for these crimes...

Kingfisher

Minister (2k+ posts)
Justice Shaukat Siddiqui but his removal not enough, he should but he need to be punished for his crimes as shown below:

  • Good decision by the Supreme Judicial Council, approved by the president as now bad fish is out of pool now but it seems that there are many more. .
  • He was a know crony of Nawaz Sharif and another Ex Justice Qayyum . He deserves much bigger punishment.
  • Creditable sources tell that he is closely related to Irfan Siddiqi, he through various statements gave the definite impression of having a soft corner for Sharif family as well as connections. But a judge should be above the board
  • Judges are not to indulge in political activism or promote political ideology of certain political party.It is evident that judge Siddiqi was violating the rules and betraying his OATH his not only removal was long overdue but he need to be punished
• He was talking more like a politician than a judge and deserved to be removed for violating the rules of his oath and ethical standards of his profession.

• "Justice Siddiqui had offered no evidence to support the claims he made" he failed to defend himself with concrete evidence. Allegations without any proof. He was asked to substantiate those allegations. Which he did not.

• Not enough. He needs to be charged and vetted

All judges & bureaucrats Justice Qayyum type and Justice Shaukat siddiqui type with political affiliations with any party or ties with politicians needs to be vetted and kicked out without benefits

Ihc justice Athar un minnallah is also a very well known judge who works for Nawaz sharif and ex corrupt Cj chaudhry ifthikar ,he worked for him in lawyers movement, he also need to be vetted .

what kind of whatsapp messages shukat siddiqui was sending to orya maqbool
 
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wasim k m

MPA (400+ posts)
CORRUPT GUZISHTA HAKUMATON KA GANDD SAAF KARNA PARAY GA, JO KE KISI AUR KI PAEDAWAR THAY, HUNN KAR LUO GALL !!
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What about other members of the ibd court who tried to become hero for a political party and protected the political masters at the expense of interests of public and law. They should also be charged in judicial council for their disregard and contempt for the law for the sake of their personal interest.
 

mskhan

Minister (2k+ posts)
If he thinks he was right, he should run in next election. Let people decide his fate.
Excuse me, have you lost your mind, what kind of stupid mentality is this, what the hell do people know about what he has done or said, kill a person, stand for election and let the people decide, what the hell the courts are doing, shut them all down. I think this bastard should be thrown in jail, he would have been thrown in jail long ago if he was in a civilised country. The bastard did that on purpose to enter politics.
 

mskhan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Justice Shaukat Siddiqui but his removal not enough, he should but he need to be punished for his crimes as shown below:

  • Good decision by the Supreme Judicial Council, approved by the president as now bad fish is out of pool now but it seems that there are many more. .
  • He was a know crony of Nawaz Sharif and another Ex Justice Qayyum . He deserves much bigger punishment.
  • Creditable sources tell that he is closely related to Irfan Siddiqi, he through various statements gave the definite impression of having a soft corner for Sharif family as well as connections. But a judge should be above the board
  • Judges are not to indulge in political activism or promote political ideology of certain political party.It is evident that judge Siddiqi was violating the rules and betraying his OATH his not only removal was long overdue but he need to be punished
• He was talking more like a politician than a judge and deserved to be removed for violating the rules of his oath and ethical standards of his profession.

• "Justice Siddiqui had offered no evidence to support the claims he made" he failed to defend himself with concrete evidence. Allegations without any proof. He was asked to substantiate those allegations. Which he did not.

• Not enough. He needs to be charged and vetted

All judges & bureaucrats Justice Qayyum type and Justice Shaukat siddiqui type with political affiliations with any party or ties with politicians needs to be vetted and kicked out without benefits
I totally agree with you, they should be severely punished.
 

Wazz

Councller (250+ posts)
People with no legal back ground might celebrate his removal but what happened with him was grave injustice.

He asked for a commission and open trial so his claims could be investigated but he was denied the open trial and no commission was made. A guilty person wouldn't ask for an open trial or would he?

Secondly in just 2 hearings the whole matter was decided without proper trial. Article 10 A clearly states right to fair trial but how can you call it a fait trial?

Third no reply was sought from the officers allegedly invole or isi. Why? Such a massive accusation and no investigation into the incident?

I am a pti voter but i am also a lawyer, and this decision will be remembered as one of the darkest one in our judicial history where judiciary completely surrendered.

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His CDA references are nothing but a farce too. He took action against CDA several times and against their head so they took it upon themselves to get their revenge.

You can go to any district court in Islamabad and you would find plenty of cases against CDA in every court. They are a complete mafia. You can get an idea of their honesty with how much land that has been recovered in Islamabad afrer encroachment operation. More than 3000 kanals. Was CDA sleeping all along that they didn't know? They ignored it because they are part of it.

CJ saab can take suo moto and ask for inquiry twice over a removal of DCO but can't order a inquiry or commission in face of such allegations. Think about it is removal of dco a bigger issue or alleged involvement of third parties in judicial proceedings?

Mubarik ho your next isb CJ would be atharminallah who stated forging documents isnt a crime. Lol.
 

Kingfisher

Minister (2k+ posts)
People with no legal back ground might celebrate his removal but what happened with him was grave injustice.

He asked for a commission and open trial so his claims could be investigated but he was denied the open trial and no commission was made. A guilty person wouldn't ask for an open trial or would he?

Secondly in just 2 hearings the whole matter was decided without proper trial. Article 10 A clearly states right to fair trial but how can you call it a fait trial?

Third no reply was sought from the officers allegedly invole or isi. Why? Such a massive accusation and no investigation into the incident?

I am a pti voter but i am also a lawyer, and this decision will be remembered as one of the darkest one in our judicial history where judiciary completely surrendered.

....
His CDA references are nothing but a farce too. He took action against CDA several times and against their head so they took it upon themselves to get their revenge.

You can go to any district court in Islamabad and you would find plenty of cases against CDA in every court. They are a complete mafia. You can get an idea of their honesty with how much land that has been recovered in Islamabad afrer encroachment operation. More than 3000 kanals. Was CDA sleeping all along that they didn't know? They ignored it because they are part of it.

CJ saab can take suo moto and ask for inquiry twice over a removal of DCO but can't order a inquiry or commission in face of such allegations. Think about it is removal of dco a bigger issue or alleged involvement of third parties in judicial proceedings?

Mubarik ho your next isb CJ would be atharminallah who stated forging documents isnt a crime. Lol.
If you dont know this let me tell you that a case against shaukat siddiqui disqualification was already underway for his misuse of funds and he was about to be convicted but before that he gave that statement against establishment in front of lawyers .
He is a known tout of ex cj kana dajjal chaudhry iftikhar was very active for him kn lawyers movement
He is well known for being a Patwari of nawaz Sharif
He is well known to be severly against imran khan
 

Kingfisher

Minister (2k+ posts)
Ihc justice Athar un minnallah is also a very well known judge who works for Nawaz sharif and ex corrupt Cj chaudhry ifthikar , he also need to be vetted .
 

Kingfisher

Minister (2k+ posts)
What about other members of the ibd court who tried to become hero for a political party and protected the political masters at the expense of interests of public and law. They should also be charged in judicial council for their disregard and contempt for the law for the sake of their personal interest.
ihc is most notrious court of pakistan due to some dirty fishers .
Sharif mafia has also invested lot of money in Lawyers of different bars and use them for their bad purposes. Many Lawyers bar presidents work for them .
Lawyer kamran murtaza is another known notrious LAwyer works for nawaz sharif
Nawaz sharif gave rise to Wakla Gardi and basmashi or lawyers which was never present before
 

Muhammad Jibran

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
He was the one spitting venom against tehreek labbaik during dharna days, got the treatment like others including Rao Anwar who injured 27 in karachi
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
People with no legal back ground might celebrate his removal but what happened with him was grave injustice.

He asked for a commission and open trial so his claims could be investigated but he was denied the open trial and no commission was made. A guilty person wouldn't ask for an open trial or would he?

Secondly in just 2 hearings the whole matter was decided without proper trial. Article 10 A clearly states right to fair trial but how can you call it a fait trial?

Third no reply was sought from the officers allegedly invole or isi. Why? Such a massive accusation and no investigation into the incident?

I am a pti voter but i am also a lawyer, and this decision will be remembered as one of the darkest one in our judicial history where judiciary completely surrendered.

....
His CDA references are nothing but a farce too. He took action against CDA several times and against their head so they took it upon themselves to get their revenge.

You can go to any district court in Islamabad and you would find plenty of cases against CDA in every court. They are a complete mafia. You can get an idea of their honesty with how much land that has been recovered in Islamabad afrer encroachment operation. More than 3000 kanals. Was CDA sleeping all along that they didn't know? They ignored it because they are part of it.

CJ saab can take suo moto and ask for inquiry twice over a removal of DCO but can't order a inquiry or commission in face of such allegations. Think about it is removal of dco a bigger issue or alleged involvement of third parties in judicial proceedings?

Mubarik ho your next isb CJ would be atharminallah who stated forging documents isnt a crime. Lol.
I have to differ. You are playing into the hands of (ex)Justice Siddique.
First, The right of the open trial and demand for the commission is not his automatic right, available to every accused. SJC acted according to the court regulations and your objection has no constitutional basis except to call for emotions. By calling for change of procedures, he expressed lack of trust on the very institution he wished to be a part of. Further he is accused of engaging in propaganda and maligning the courts, political activity and defaming the fellow judges. With these charges why he is to be provided a public forum for the same crimes and misconduct.

Perhaps it is you and J. Siddique who are framing this case in terms of accusations on ISI. However that's not the case.
First he accused CJ of IHC for misconduct and disservice.
Further by stating that CJ was ordered 'not to release before election', he not only questioned/tainted the verdict of nab judges but also prejudged the decision in the following case.
There was no reason for inquiring ISI in this case, as his musing about ISI was a hearsay to accuse CJ. If he had documentary proofs in this regard (phone conversation, letters etc.) he could present to SJC (and further now he is freed from the institutional obligations to present them to the public and media if he has a case.) Lacking documentary proof, it were the words of CJ of isbd court vs. his hearsay that SJC had to look into.
In any case, it is without doubt that a) he exhibited distrust on the court and maligned judges, b) interfered in the court proceeding of the fellow judges with ill intent, c) used a political forum to malign the courts, thus he surely had lost the right to be a member of bench in accordance with the law. Further, his media engagements and propaganda, his open favoritism to Nawaz Shareef (whom he were to help in the following court proceedings) are already part of public knowledge; SJC must had looked into that record before making decision about his misconduct.

Now he is out of the bench free to make whatever accusation he has to make - though I wish he has resigned before making such allegations on the bench. We have already seen such unbecoming conduct from judges. In a conducive and convenient political environment, nasim hasan shah had tried to put question mark on the judgement of the unanimous full court decision of LHC and SC in bhutto case (in very vague words, without any proofs and without any legal arguments but wished only to play media games) which have tainted the institution in the eyes of public.
 
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Kingfisher

Minister (2k+ posts)
I have to differ. You are playing into the hands of (ex)Justice Siddique.
First, The right of the open trial and demand for the commission is not his automatic right, available to every accused. SJC acted according to the court regulations and you objection has no constitutional basis except to call for emotions. By calling for change of procedures, he expressed lack of trust on the very institution he wished to be a part of. Further he is accused of engaging in propaganda and maligning the courts, political activity and defaming the fellow judges. With these charges why he is to be provided a public forum for the same crimes and misconduct.

perhaps it is you and J. Siddique who are framing this case in terms of accusations on ISI. However that's not the case.
First he accused CJ of IHC for misconduct and disservice.
Further by stating that CJ was ordered 'not to release before election', he not only questioned/tainted the verdict of nab judges but also prejudged the decision in the following case.
There was no reason for inquiring ISI in this case as his musing about ISI was a hearsay to accuse CJ. If he had documentary proofs in this regard (phone conversation, letters etc.) he could present to SJC (and further now he is free from the institutional obligations to present them to the public and media if he has a case.) Lacking documentary proof, it were the words of CJ of isbd court vs. his hearsay that SJC had to look into.
In any case, it is without doubt that a) he exhibited distrust on the court and maligned judges, b) interfered in the court proceeding of the fellow judges with ill intent, c) used a political forum to malign the courts, thus he surely had lost the right to be a member of bench in accordance with the law. Further, his media engagements and propaganda, his open favoritism to Nawaz Shareef (whom he were to help in the following court proceedings) are already part of public knowledge; SJC must had looked into that record before making decision about his misconduct.

Now he is out of the bench free to make whatever accusation he has to make - though I wish he has resigned before making such allegations on the bench. We have already seen the such unbecoming conduct from the judges. In a conducive and convenient political environment, nasim hasan shah had tried to put question mark on the judgement of the unanimous full court decision of LHC and SC in bhutto case (in very vague words, without any proofs and without any legal arguments but wished only to play media games) which have tainted the institution in the eyes of public.
Well said :clap:clap
 

Steyn

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This just shows how big of a joke judiciary in Pakistan is.

I guess the CJP had to do some magic trick to distract the nation again. He's worse than Nawaz Sharif, at least everyone knew Nawaz was corrupt and was openly eating this country, this harami justice has made himself appear to be the savior of this nation but stabbing it in the back AND NOBODY CAN EVEN DARE EXPOSE HIM.
 

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