Jeenay Do Karachi Ko - 1st September 2013 - Special Show on Karachi - Asad Umar, Shahi Syed

Geek

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Senator Pervaiz Rasheed PML-N, Sharjeel Inam Memon PPP, Senator Shahi Syed ANP, Faisal Sabzwari MQM, Asad Umar PTI, Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman JI, Sarwat Ejaz Qadri President Sunni Tehreek, Maulana Aurangzeb Farooqi Religious Scholar, Ahmed Chinoy Chief CPLC and Afzal Nadeem Dogar Geo News in fresh episode of Jeene Do Karachi Ko on Geo News and talk with Hamid Mir.




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Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Who will decide information is correct? mqm and other parties along with geo TV and Hamid Mir will start a campaign against them.

Media needs to stay away from speculations also.

Just observe Hamid Mir trying sooo hard to keep swinging the discussion giving the perception that Intelligence agencies are doctoring the reports.

Sharjeel Sahib What about government obeying the decisions of Courts? you want to take a look into PPPs history?
 

pakistanstube

Minister (2k+ posts)
Hamid Mir you done the Good job but Sharati Jalil is still stuck with judiciary but never make any law in this regard, something like Kala Bagh Dam and no other planning was done, now all the poor in all Pakistan suffering.
One big Criminal donate a fort to Zardari in Lahore, what you think he done that for Pakistan interest.
 

Pukaar

Senator (1k+ posts)
The problem of Karachi is ethnic.. Its Urdu Speaking people vs the rest of the Pakistani populace. But no one wants to talk about since it brings out the deep wounds in the very fabric of Pakistan.
 

syediqbal

Minister (2k+ posts)
Seedy Ung-lee say yea Ghee nahi neqklee ga........Ugg-lee tereh Kar-ne pare gee. Kill or arrest all political heads ..Karachi will flourish again with full bloom with in a weeks. Talking to these killers like you are talking to walls.
 

zafarbokhari

Senator (1k+ posts)
There is only ONE solution for Karachi and Baluchistan. Let everyone rule and run their own cities and villages. Do we want to destroy Pakistan by not giving powers to locals. Same happened in E. Pakistan and all criminals are dead along-with generations. Locals rule their own cities. This way happens not only in modern democracies but also in China and Africa. Small City Governments are responsible of their own territory. There are big metro governments like London, New York, Tokyo, Beijing, Paris, Shanghai, Delhi, Moscow, and many others. There are no Chief Ministers and provincial ministers in 99% of countries of the world. This curse is deep rooted in Pakistan. Unless we create Strong City Government with local police powers backed by Rangers and Army like USA & China; Pakistan will be destroyed by these political parties while Army is letting these criminals destroy Pakistan, rich businessmen have left Pakistan, poor has no power, middle class is busy with survival media and intellectuals are sold. Save Pakistan and go for Baldiati election by creating strong and powerful governments. Unless we give locals full powers Pakistan will never prosper. Police and Army can use force and tanks on illegal weapon holders, criminals, and foreigners, the way happens in China, USA, and Saudi Arabia. Metro Karachi should never be given in the hands of criminals. 1850s British system, current PPP provincial government from rural Sind, and 1850s Police are the key elements in destruction of Karachi and Pakistan. Writ of Government has to be established not ruling our own people but killing criminals. Decentralize power at local level people will hunt crminals as community.
 

farooqak

Minister (2k+ posts)
listening to these people talk is like a comedy show

mqm, ppp & anp are all killers in Karachi and after this 'bhutta' have killed several people for no reason, yet on this program they talk as if they are brothers and friends..lies, lies and more lies
 

PTI-Karachi

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
We always Argue to each other that either the solution of Karachi is politically or by military..but in reality the solution contain on both military & political concentration but unfortunately both institution are prevaricating from karachiits bad circumstances.

lot of karachiits (the PTI supporter & voters) are disappointed including me after IK statement about Karachi.. well there is a solution...
SOLUTION
The solution is to Appoint the neutral person (an ex-military officer) as Governor for at least 2 years or until the situation will not be under control. and do the military Operation finally....(we are talking about the neutral empire(neutral Governor) as IK always talk about neutral empire then why not for karachi??) meanwhile government should reform the policing & Rangers system & depoliticize it to make sure long term peace & order even after withdrawal of army from Karachi.Military always operate in civil areas with information that is given by intelligence agency.Otherwise what`s benefit of presence of intelligence agency either in Karachi and Baluchistan or in tribal areas??? the benefit of intelligence agency to collect the information and provide it to other institutions if required.. (am i right OR right?)... finally in my point of view there is solution if anyone agree with my opinion..

we don't need one core of army just send the one company of army with atleast 5000 soldiers for targeted operation and that`s it.. we are not with MQM because we don't want MQM Governor during Operation just replace the Ishrat-ul-Eibaad and appoint the neutral person (an ex-military officer) as Governor for atleast 2 years or until the situation will not be under control.. meanwhile Government should reform the policing and Rangers System and depoliticize the Policing & Rangers system to make sure the long term peace and order even after withdrawal of Army from Karachi.

Neither we want PPP representation nor MQM representation during this operation because they both will provide the save path to their militants... we want to get rid of the manslaughter, burglary, high handedness, extortionist and Political militant wings from Karachi.. and in future this is also good for PTI & PMLN in karachi.. because in the presence of Political Militant Wings in Karachi the PTI & PMLN Supporters will never raise their voice Openly with the PTI & PMLN ideology & agenda because of fear.. we need to eradicate specially Political militant Wings for Pakistan bright future & to increase the Pakistan economy which mostly depends on Karachi.

We are opting for NEUTRAL GOVERNOR RAAJ, powers with Neutral Governor rather than with Sindh's CM & MPA's. but unfortunately PML-N's leadership and our PM is one of the most coward guy around, they don't have will to get things corrected. Governor RAAJ is also not looked upon well so i doubt that they will go for these proactive solutions. they will save constitution and let our innocent karachiites die. PM and cabinet have meeting in karachi on 3rd September. lets see how sincere they are to resolve karachi issue..
"we are talking about neutral empire(neutral Governor) as IK always talk about neutral empire."

I am going to go simple for the readers. (How these will happen is another long discussion)

All arms licenses should be cancelled and ordered to deposit those in local police stations within 30 -40 or 60 days.

Names of all big guns should be entered in exit control list.
Army should be asked to take charge of Karachi and be given free hand
Any one found with a gun should be shot right at the spot ,regardless.
Army plus ISI should pin point 50 top leaders through proper intelligence and information.
50 commando teams should be formed with 70-80 fully equipped soldiers in each team , that will need 4000-5000 men.
Movement of all these 50 tops should be monitored all the times.
A time should be fixed to conduct raids on all these 50 at the same time.(No one should escape after one is caught)

They should be taken to some unknown place and make them stand in a single line.
Ask one on them to call their No.2 in the party rank that there should not be any violence in the city.
If nothing happens just place him infront of firing squad in the presence of other 49.
Then pick the second person and repeat the process.
I guarantee you that after 2 or 3 being hanged “dove of peace” will be flying in the city.
It is going to cast 2000-3000 lives but compare those with everyday anarchy and lose of lives in the city and the country. There is no other solution

If Federal Government want then this solution will only work after 8 September (Coming Soon) When Zardari will complete his constitutional term and hand over duties to a newly elected President "Mamnoon Hussain"

A WORD IS ENOUGH TO THE WISE
 

ifteeahmed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There is only ONE solution for Karachi and Baluchistan. Let everyone rule and run their own cities and villages. Do we want to destroy Pakistan by not giving powers to locals. Same happened in E. Pakistan and all criminals are dead along-with generations. Locals rule their own cities. This way happens not only in modern democracies but also in China and Africa. Small City Governments are responsible of their own territory. There are big metro governments like London, New York, Tokyo, Beijing, Paris, Shanghai, Delhi, Moscow, and many others. There are no Chief Ministers and provincial ministers in 99% of countries of the world. This curse is deep rooted in Pakistan. Unless we create Strong City Government with local police powers backed by Rangers and Army like USA & China; Pakistan will be destroyed by these political parties while Army is letting these criminals destroy Pakistan, rich businessmen have left Pakistan, poor has no power, middle class is busy with survival media and intellectuals are sold. Save Pakistan and go for Baldiati election by creating strong and powerful governments. Unless we give locals full powers Pakistan will never prosper. Police and Army can use force and tanks on illegal weapon holders, criminals, and foreigners, the way happens in China, USA, and Saudi Arabia. Metro Karachi should never be given in the hands of criminals. 1850s British system, current PPP provincial government from rural Sind, and 1850s Police are the key elements in destruction of Karachi and Pakistan. Writ of Government has to be established not ruling our own people but killing criminals. Decentralize power at local level people will hunt crminals as community.

Give the power to their local people as and always said by IK.
But PPP govt. doesn't want to do this.
 

rasheikh

Senator (1k+ posts)
Whoever support any Culprit , he should be hang on the chowk and his body should be left there for 1 week.
There should not be any Judicial Process , because Police / Rangers and Judiciary has been FAILED to perform their DUTY.
Either bring ARMY immediately or give the CURRENT System 1 Month Notice to show the IMPROVEMENT.