Javed Hashmis brave show of empathy with minorities

Geek

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) of Imran Khan has cobbled together a dedicated team of media managers. Most of them switched to marketing political messages after spending many years in launching consumer products and cultivating lifelong loyalty with their brand names as PR professionals.



Thanks to this path dependency, they focused more on promoting the charismatic side of Imran Khan. The strategy they adopted did produce a massive crowd of youthful supporters equipped with all possible tools of digital communication for Imran Khan. But their passionate presence on social media also made the PTI look more like a cult rather than a political party with doable ideas to govern.



For whatever reason, Imran could not make it to prime ministers office, but for his party that is hardly the end of the world. Besides running the government in a volatile but dynamic province, Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, the PTI also has an impressive presence in the National Assembly. Many youthful persons sit on the NA benches, rubbing shoulders with acclaimed professionals and veteran parliamentarians like Shah Mehmood Qureshi and Javed Hashmi. They have tremendous potential to dominate the discourse in the National Assembly with a carefully crafted script and the ability to execute the same by intelligent coordination.


Of late, many from the diehard fans and ardent admirers of Imran Khan have started to feel disappointed. They just cant understand why he continues to promote and defend the need of engaging Taliban in negotiations for peace, even after the killing of a major general in Upper Dir and the massacre of Christians in Peshawar.



Imran Khan and his party need to wake up to the reality that their core constituency is primarily made of urbanite middle class. His supporters do not feel good about the US and feel rather annoyed with its arrogant and militaristic policies. Doing so, they do not want to look like political activists mostly identified with our religious-right. They want to appear as liberals. Imran Khan will certainly alienate this constituency by behaving like a rigid Taliban Khan.
Javed Hashmi does appear conscious of the possible blowback: his speech in the National Assembly on Tuesday seemed to confirm his desire to retain the loyalty of the partys urban liberals.



Legislators use this day to introduce laws in their private capacity but on this Tuesday, they all agreed to abandon that privilege and deliver speeches to express solidarity with Pakistani Christians. Notwithstanding the noble intention, they sounded duplicitous while beating their chests on the House floor.



Javed Hashmi proved an exception by bravely taking on the blasphemy law in a sincere sounding flow of empathy with minorities living in the country. Before coming to the point, though, he proudly reminded the house that even when the anti-blasphemy law was introduced in the early 1990s, he had opposed it despite sheer violation of party discipline. Those days, lest you forget, he had been a front ranking member of the PML-N. After calling it a bad law, he firmly asserted that most people in this country abuse this law to settle personal scores. While in jail I even met devout Muslims serving terms under the same law, he claimed.



Sitting in the press gallery most reporters were shocked to notice that no one from the crowd of self-styled liberals sitting on the PPP and the MQM benches cared to build any momentum in favour of Hashmis position during their speeches. Mindlessly indifferent they squandered away a perfect opportunity to revisit the anti-blasphemy law and prepare grounds for its reformation.



Dr Shireen Mazari did not need any tutor to discover that with clear support expressed from the PTI benches, media would prefer to presume as if Hashmi had simply stated personal reservations against the blasphemy law in a whimsical fit. Demanding the parliamentary review of this law was not the PTI policy.



After a lengthy preamble that also acknowledged the fact that she had attended Convent schools, she profusely praised the Christian communitys contribution in the fields of health and education and finally came to endorse Javed Hashmis demand for a dispassionate review of the blasphemy law. In the process, she also admitted that the curriculum taught at our schools for the past many decades has turned most of our youth into mindless bigots. As a professor of Quaid-e-Azam University, she admitted with regret, I have personally witnessed the devastating sides of this curriculum. I fully affirm her thoughts.



Published in The Express Tribune, September 25th, 2013.
 

shahbaz tariq

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
[h=5]تحریک انصاف نے توہین رسالت کے قانون میں جو خرابیاں ہیں ان کو دور کرنے کے لیے اس میں ترمیم کا مطالبہ کیا ہے_ اس پر ہمیں تنقید کی بجائے حوصلہ افزائی کرنی چاہیے_

موجودہ قانون کے مطابق کوئی بھی شخص کسی سے صرف کسی ذاتی عداوت میں بھی کسی غیرمسلمان کو مجرم ٹھہروا سکتا ہے، بس اسے ٤ سے ٥ گواہان کی ضرورت پڑے گی_ یہی نہیں بلکہ بہت سے غئر مسلمان جو بے قصور ہوتے ہوئے بھی جیلوں میں سڑ رہے ہیں_ یہ سراسر اقلیتی طبقے کا استحصال ہے اس کا سدباب ہونا چاہیے_

کچھ جذباتی لوگ جو کماحقہ اس قانون کے بارے میں بھی علم تک نہیں رکھتے وہ صرف توہین رسالت کا لفظ دیکھ کر ہی اپنی رائے قائم کر لیتے ہیں_ لیکن حقیقت میں یہاں معاملہ پاکستان کے قانون کی بہتری لانے کا ہے نہ کہ اسلام کے کسی تقاضے میں ترمیم کرنے کا_


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mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Very well done Mr. Hashmi. Salute to your courage. Really, no body wants to take a stand upon this issue while religious extremists are encouraged by Mullahs to kill every person who questions the validity of this law.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Sorry to say folks, I have lost all respect for this old fellow, Javed Hashmi. Dont get me wrong. I am a PTIer myself, but truth has to be told. He sounds like a complete jahil from Islamic point of view. This is why I think of him this way:

1. he labelled the victims of the terror in All Saints as 'shaheed'. Jahil enough not to know what shaheed is.
Wahts more, he did dua for them. I bet it was dua-e-maghfirah, even though I am not clear if he said that. Even Nabipbuh was told not to do dua for his non-Muslim chacha. Allah revealed:

oh! Muhammad (pbuh) agar aap sattar (70) baar bhi dua kareingey to qbool nahi hogi

then finally fil-muqam-e-akhir: aye Muhammad (pbuh)! aap in kafiron ki maghfirat ki dua na kijyey'

Then Nabi (pbuh) stopped asking for chacha's maghfirah.
Who is Hashmi to dua for them. We have all the reasons to sympathize, help them financially which KP Govt has announced, console them in comfort, hug, comfort, and protect them. Do everything is need for them to forget the loss of lives but you CAN NOT dua for their maghfirah.

Hashmi turned out be more jahil than I thought. Leaderon ka yeh haal hai to qaum ka kya hoga

2. he wants to revise blasphemy law. What he means that revise it and let the flood gate of insults to Nabi saheb pbuh open. he did not saw he meant revise the law to protect from abuse, may be he meant but did not say it.Mumtaz Qadri's one brave action (punishing the secular and munafiq Gov Taseer) stopped further blasphemy.
After the illing of Taseer, Sherry Rehman ko saanp hi soongh gaya. Earlier she had made a negative comments about polygamy mentioned in Suarh Nissa. After killing she totally disappeared into cave.


I personally agree that Blasphemy law is black and if I were the PM, I would make it even more black. I would even bring a law - Quran Negation Bill- No Pakistani would be allowed to mention that any ayah is wrong.
I remember this:

Zaid Hamid: inn lillah-e-wa-inna ilaih-e-rajeoon on a talk show

Marvi Sarmad: Kya khurafat buk rahey hain aap. (ma'azAllah)

With Quran Negation law, she would have been hanged in public.

We do not need to revise blasphemy law. We need to educate people by TV messages, publicize in media and at the same time, make police more responsible for their tasks.
Posted on PTI facebook
 
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ایک بات طے کر لو کہ گستاخِ رسول کو قانون کے تحت عدالتوں سے سزا دلوانی ہے یا خنجر ونجر چلا کر اُسکا فیصلہ بارو بائر خود ہی کر دینا ہے۔


اگر فیصلہ خنجر بازی سے کرنا ہے تو قانون کی کیا ضرورت، اگر قانون سے کروانا ہے تو اُسکو شانِ رسالت کے کم از کم معیار کے مطابق تو رکھو کہ کوئی ایرا غیرا اپنی دو ٹکے کی ذاتی رنجش کیلئے سرورِ کائنات کے نام و ناموس کا غلط استعمال نہ کر سکے۔


اِسمیں ہاشمی صاحب نے غلط کیا کہہ دیا، پاکستان میں رائج توہینِ رسالت کا موجودہ قانون اسی پارلیامنٹ کا بنایا ہوا ہے اُسے ہی اختیار ہے کہ وہ اِسمیں بہتری کیلئے ترمیم بھی کرے۔
 

FAISAL315

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Totally agree with Javedd hashmi sab. there is need of amendment there. majorly this law is being used against non Muslims. we must protect our minorities from our hot liners. to whom we declare Kafir.
 

amir1974

Councller (250+ posts)
Sorry to say folks, I have lost all respect for this old fellow, Javed Hashmi. Dont get me wrong. I am a PTIer myself, but truth has to be told. He sounds like a complete jahil from Islamic point of view. This is why I think of him this way:

1. he labelled the victims of the terror in All Saints as 'shaheed'. Jahil enough not to know what shaheed is.
Wahts more, he did dua for them. I bet it was dua-e-maghfirah, even though I am not clear if he said that. Even Nabipbuh was told not to do dua for his non-Muslim chacha. Allah revealed:

oh! Muhammad (pbuh) agar aap sattar (70) baar bhi dua kareingey to qbool nahi hogi

then finally fil-muqam-e-akhir: aye Muhammad (pbuh)! aap in kafiron ki maghfirat ki dua na kijyey'

Then Nabi (pbuh) stopped asking for chacha's maghfirah.
Who is Hashmi to dua for them. We have all the reasons to sympathize, help them financially which KP Govt has announced, console them in comfort, hug, comfort, and protect them. Do everything is need for them to forget the loss of lives but you CAN NOT dua for their maghfirah.

Hashmi turned out be more jahil than I thought. Leaderon ka yeh haal hai to qaum ka kya hoga

2. he wants to revise blasphemy law. What he means that revise it and let the flood gate of insults to Nabi saheb pbuh open. he did not saw he meant revise the law to protect from abuse, may be he meant but did not say it.Mumtaz Qadri's one brave action (punishing the secular and munafiq Gov Taseer) stopped further blasphemy.
After the illing of Taseer, Sherry Rehman ko saanp hi soongh gaya. Earlier she had made a negative comments about polygamy mentioned in Suarh Nissa. After killing she totally disappeared into cave.


I personally agree that Blasphemy law is black and if I were the PM, I would make it even more black. I would even bring a law - Quran Negation Bill- No Pakistani would be allowed to mention that any ayah is wrong.
I remember this:

Zaid Hamid: inn lillah-e-wa-inna ilaih-e-rajeoon on a talk show

Marvi Sarmad: Kya khurafat buk rahey hain aap. (ma'azAllah)

With Quran Negation law, she would have been hanged in public.

We do not need to revise blasphemy law. We need to educate people by TV messages, publicize in media and at the same time, make police more responsible for their tasks.
Posted on PTI facebook
Jo es Law ko misuse karte hai un ki kia saaza honi chaiey sirf 6 month. es ka matlab agaer koi joota ilzaam laagta hai aur nahi pakra jaata tu jis per ilzam laaga hai woh tu mara gaya magar
i m agree wit this law sirf jo joota ilzaam laage os ko b woh hi saaza milni chaiey thats all.
 

tz00007

Minister (2k+ posts)
javed hashmi is right.... this blasphemy law is crap.... yes we need to have a punishment...but the law needs to be changed... in the current law..if 2 ppl come n say we saw u do blasphemy, ur fu***d.... thats it....

ab khud socho ye law insano ka hay???????// aaj kal jhootey log or jhootey muqadmey kitne hote hein...

this law is useless..jinho ne blasphemy ki, onka kucn nahi hua.... or law ko use kia personal fights k liye... ya land grabbing k liye...

no one wants to insult anyone... kisi ka kaam kia... the law should be changed and a good investigation should be added so no one can mis use the law



Sorry to say folks, I have lost all respect for this old fellow, Javed Hashmi. Dont get me wrong. I am a PTIer myself, but truth has to be told. He sounds like a complete jahil from Islamic point of view. This is why I think of him this way:

1. he labelled the victims of the terror in All Saints as 'shaheed'. Jahil enough not to know what shaheed is.
Wahts more, he did dua for them. I bet it was dua-e-maghfirah, even though I am not clear if he said that. Even Nabipbuh was told not to do dua for his non-Muslim chacha. Allah revealed:

oh! Muhammad (pbuh) agar aap sattar (70) baar bhi dua kareingey to qbool nahi hogi

then finally fil-muqam-e-akhir: aye Muhammad (pbuh)! aap in kafiron ki maghfirat ki dua na kijyey'

Then Nabi (pbuh) stopped asking for chacha's maghfirah.
Who is Hashmi to dua for them. We have all the reasons to sympathize, help them financially which KP Govt has announced, console them in comfort, hug, comfort, and protect them. Do everything is need for them to forget the loss of lives but you CAN NOT dua for their maghfirah.

Hashmi turned out be more jahil than I thought. Leaderon ka yeh haal hai to qaum ka kya hoga

2. he wants to revise blasphemy law. What he means that revise it and let the flood gate of insults to Nabi saheb pbuh open. he did not saw he meant revise the law to protect from abuse, may be he meant but did not say it.Mumtaz Qadri's one brave action (punishing the secular and munafiq Gov Taseer) stopped further blasphemy.
After the illing of Taseer, Sherry Rehman ko saanp hi soongh gaya. Earlier she had made a negative comments about polygamy mentioned in Suarh Nissa. After killing she totally disappeared into cave.


I personally agree that Blasphemy law is black and if I were the PM, I would make it even more black. I would even bring a law - Quran Negation Bill- No Pakistani would be allowed to mention that any ayah is wrong.
I remember this:

Zaid Hamid: inn lillah-e-wa-inna ilaih-e-rajeoon on a talk show

Marvi Sarmad: Kya khurafat buk rahey hain aap. (ma'azAllah)

With Quran Negation law, she would have been hanged in public.

We do not need to revise blasphemy law. We need to educate people by TV messages, publicize in media and at the same time, make police more responsible for their tasks.
Posted on PTI facebook
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
javed hashmi is right.... this blasphemy law is crap.... yes we need to have a punishment...but the law needs to be changed... in the current law..if 2 ppl come n say we saw u do blasphemy, ur fu***d.... thats it....

ab khud socho ye law insano ka hay???????// aaj kal jhootey log or jhootey muqadmey kitne hote hein...

this law is useless..jinho ne blasphemy ki, onka kucn nahi hua.... or law ko use kia personal fights k liye... ya land grabbing k liye...

no one wants to insult anyone... kisi ka kaam kia... the law should be changed and a good investigation should be added so no one can mis use the law

hahaha, get real brother

blasphemy law IS what's keeping people from insulting. You think Taseer and others, such Marvi Sarmad, Sherry Rehman etc, would let any day go by w/o making some negative remarks?


law must remain intact but must be publicized to correct use. false accuser must be punished. Failure to protect the honor of Nabi pbuh is our own failure, dont remove the law, bring more law to pretect the law.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Jo es Law ko misuse karte hai un ki kia saaza honi chaiey sirf 6 month. es ka matlab agaer koi joota ilzaam laagta hai aur nahi pakra jaata tu jis per ilzam laaga hai woh tu mara gaya magar
i m agree wit this law sirf jo joota ilzaam laage os ko b woh hi saaza milni chaiey thats all.

Thats why change is being proposed. I am not against the change, I am against total repealing of the law.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)

ایک بات طے کر لو کہ گستاخِ رسول کو قانون کے تحت عدالتوں سے سزا دلوانی ہے یا خنجر ونجر چلا کر اُسکا فیصلہ بارو بائر خود ہی کر دینا ہے۔


اگر فیصلہ خنجر بازی سے کرنا ہے تو قانون کی کیا ضرورت، اگر قانون سے کروانا ہے تو اُسکو شانِ رسالت کے کم از کم معیار کے مطابق تو رکھو کہ کوئی ایرا غیرا اپنی دو ٹکے کی ذاتی رنجش کیلئے سرورِ کائنات کے نام و ناموس کا غلط استعمال نہ کر سکے۔


اِسمیں ہاشمی صاحب نے غلط کیا کہہ دیا، پاکستان میں رائج توہینِ رسالت کا موجودہ قانون اسی پارلیامنٹ کا بنایا ہوا ہے اُسے ہی اختیار ہے کہ وہ اِسمیں بہتری کیلئے ترمیم بھی کرے۔

I fear that when secular people sit down to revise, they will attempt to remove it all together
 

tz00007

Minister (2k+ posts)
do u have problem understanding????? who said to "remove" the law??????????

everyone is saying to "ammend" it...not remove it...


hahaha, get real brother

blasphemy law IS what's keeping people from insulting. You think Taseer and others, such Marvi Sarmad, Sherry Rehman etc, would let any day go by w/o making some negative remarks?


law must remain intact but must be publicized to correct use. false accuser must be punished. Failure to protect the honor of Nabi pbuh is our own failure, dont remove the law, bring more law to pretect the law.
 

electric

Councller (250+ posts)
Gustakh e Rasool kon hota hay? Kin Kalimat se Gustakhi Sabit
hoti hay (YouTube, Session One)


Gustakh e Rasool kon hota hay? Kin Kalimat se Gustakhi Sabit
hoti hay (YouTube, Session Two)

  1. Who is a denigrator of the Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him)?
  2. What words precisely prove denigration?
  3. Protection of the Messengers holiness and the protection of the
    inviolability of Din

Blame game and issuing edicts of disbelief against others is a common
practice of the mischief-monger Ulama in our country. Sometimes, it develops
into riots, tribulations, vandalism and bloodshed. Those who hold an opinion
different from these disruptive, riotous and rowdy Ulama, are also declared
denigrators and Kafirs. As a result, the pragmatic and rational Ulalma
expediently keep reticent in self-regard. Performing his duty, as ever, of
leading the Ummah to the right path, Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri has
dilated upon this complex scholarly subject of research:

Who is a denigrator of the Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him)?

What words precisely prove denigration?

How the protection of the Messengers holiness and the inviolability of the
Prophets Din are co-related? And what are its pre-requisites?

The first part of the session is of introductory nature and comprises the
historical perspective of the issue while his talk on the main issue begins
after one hour and thirty minutes.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
do u have problem understanding????? who said to "remove" the law??????????

everyone is saying to "ammend" it...not remove it...



I understand perfectly and much better than any one else.

Amendment is actually a request for removal disguised as Amendment OR amend the law to the point that it becomes useless.

This is chalaki by the kafereen and seculars.
 

khan27

Minister (2k+ posts)
Sorry to say folks, I have lost all respect for this old fellow, Javed Hashmi. Dont get me wrong. I am a PTIer myself, but truth has to be told. He sounds like a complete jahil from Islamic point of view. This is why I think of him this way:

1. he labelled the victims of the terror in All Saints as 'shaheed'. Jahil enough not to know what shaheed is.
Wahts more, he did dua for them. I bet it was dua-e-maghfirah, even though I am not clear if he said that. Even Nabipbuh was told not to do dua for his non-Muslim chacha. Allah revealed:

oh! Muhammad (pbuh) agar aap sattar (70) baar bhi dua kareingey to qbool nahi hogi

then finally fil-muqam-e-akhir: aye Muhammad (pbuh)! aap in kafiron ki maghfirat ki dua na kijyey'

Then Nabi (pbuh) stopped asking for chacha's maghfirah.
Who is Hashmi to dua for them. We have all the reasons to sympathize, help them financially which KP Govt has announced, console them in comfort, hug, comfort, and protect them. Do everything is need for them to forget the loss of lives but you CAN NOT dua for their maghfirah.

Hashmi turned out be more jahil than I thought. Leaderon ka yeh haal hai to qaum ka kya hoga

2. he wants to revise blasphemy law. What he means that revise it and let the flood gate of insults to Nabi saheb pbuh open. he did not saw he meant revise the law to protect from abuse, may be he meant but did not say it.Mumtaz Qadri's one brave action (punishing the secular and munafiq Gov Taseer) stopped further blasphemy.
After the illing of Taseer, Sherry Rehman ko saanp hi soongh gaya. Earlier she had made a negative comments about polygamy mentioned in Suarh Nissa. After killing she totally disappeared into cave.


I personally agree that Blasphemy law is black and if I were the PM, I would make it even more black. I would even bring a law - Quran Negation Bill- No Pakistani would be allowed to mention that any ayah is wrong.
I remember this:

Zaid Hamid: inn lillah-e-wa-inna ilaih-e-rajeoon on a talk show

Marvi Sarmad: Kya khurafat buk rahey hain aap. (ma'azAllah)

With Quran Negation law, she would have been hanged in public.

We do not need to revise blasphemy law. We need to educate people by TV messages, publicize in media and at the same time, make police more responsible for their tasks.
Posted on PTI facebook

hamesha daleel ke saath baat kiya karo jo likha hai batao kahan likha hai
 

tz00007

Minister (2k+ posts)
why are u mullah and mullah types so insecure????????

by the way,, this is originally a british law... lolzz...

amend means to change it... doznt mean make it useless... koi ghaas khaate hein log jo ise useless kareinge...aur agar useless kia tu aap jese ***** sarko pa ajayeinge...

the law is already useless and is used for personal grudges and land grabbing.... but u dont see that...

aap jese log jab tak honge tab tak Islam k bera gharak he rahega...


I understand perfectly and much better than any one else.

Amendment is actually a request for removal disguised as Amendment OR amend the law to the point that it becomes useless.

This is chalaki by the kafereen and seculars.
 

HomoSapien

MPA (400+ posts)
پیغمبر اور مسلمانوں کو شایاں نہیں کہ جب ان پر ظاہر ہوگیا کہ مشرک اہل دوزخ ہیں۔ تو ان کے لیے بخشش مانگیں گو وہ ان کے قرابت دار ہی ہوں (۱۱۳) اور ابراہیم کا اپنے باپ کے لیے بخشش مانگنا تو ایک وعدے کا سبب تھا جو وہ اس سے کر چکے تھے۔ لیکن جب ان کو معلوم ہوگیا کہ وہ خدا کا دشمن ہے تو اس سے بیزار ہوگئے۔ کچھ شک نہیں کہ ابراہیم بڑے نرم دل اور متحمل تھے (۱۱۴)

hamesha daleel ke saath baat kiya karo jo likha hai batao kahan likha hai