Indian journalist reveals inside politics of Indian army and opposes out of turn appointment of new

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Questions about an appointment


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The blame for the Centre’s unnecessary and dangerous effort to scuttle the long-held convention of appointing the most senior among eligible officers as Chief of the Army Staff cannot be laid at the doorstep of the political executive alone. A significant part of it should go to the Army leadership, which has been betraying significant nepotism and lack of conviction on a range of issues in recent times.


The government has justified the appointment of Lt. Gen. Bipin Rawat superseding two commanders saying he had superior professional capabilities. It argues that the prerogative to select the military chief lies with the executive and the decision has been taken purely on merit. Those close to the present government also argue that a factor taken into consideration was the ease of doing business with the new chief.


None of those arguments, however, addresses the concern that the decision could be seen as an unnecessary and dangerous political meddling in the working of a professional military. Arguments in favour of merit do not hold much water here.


Disparity within the Army


The impending political intervention, with excuse of merit, was in the air for sometime. The appointment of Lt. Gen. Rawat suits not just the political leadership but also the present chief, Gen. Dalbir Suhag, and his comrades from the infantry. Both are from the Gorkha Rifles. The two officers who are senior to Lt. Gen. Rawat and lost out to him — Lt. Gen. Praveen Bakshi and Lt. Gen. P.M. Hariz — are from armoured corps and mechanised infantry, respectively.


The unwritten part of the Indian Army’s contemporary history is the deep divisions among the senior leadership between infantry and other arms. This has worsened under the outgoing chief, who has aggressively promoted those from infantry, especially from the Gorkha regiments.


Gorkha Rifles officers today occupy an unusually large number of crucial posts at the senior level. And the recent promotion list from Major General to Lieutenant General also saw had a noticeably large number of officers from Gorkha regiments. This situation finally reflects on the force, even if it is not intended.


The Army leadership has been unusually silent, or at least according to available public records, as the Kashmir situation began to spin out of control in recent times after years of steady improvement. The Army has lost at least 63 soldiers in Jammu and Kashmir this year so far, which is more than the casualty figures of the last two years and among the highest in a decade.


The relative peace attained in Kashmir since heavier Army deployment in the late 1980s had come at the cost of thousands of lives — at least 6,000 security personnel deaths, according to reliable databases. The Army leadership has a responsibility to ensure that its men do not end up being cannon fodder to myopic security perspectives and unwise political moves. Leading the Indian Army is a privilege as well as a heavy responsibility.

Mediocrity and merit


It might sound Orwellian, but perceived mediocrity is sometimes better than merit. It is true especially when it comes to military promotions in a political system like ours. At all levels of military promotions, mediocrity has several chances to creep in, and it makes regular appearances. Sometimes they appear as deliberate conspiracies, at other times as an incompetent leadership playing safe.


Under the existing norms, the Vice Chief and the seven Army Commanders are eligible to be considered for the post of Chief of the Army Staff. The Ministry of Defence sends a panel of the three most senior among them to the Appointments Committee of the Cabinet, chaired by the Prime Minister, which finally decides the successor.
In recent memory, except on one occasion in 1983, the most senior eligible officer has been appointed. In 1983, the Indira Gandhi government decided to make Lt. Gen. A.S. Vaidya the Army chief, superseding Lt. Gen. S.K. Sinha. Among the reasons speculated was the latter’s firm professional mind, and his rumoured advice against an armed intervention against Sikh militants lodged in Amritsar’s Golden Temple. A few months after Lt. Gen. Sinha resigned, the Army under Gen. Vaidya launched Operation Blue Star, with disastrous consequences that played out over several years.


The professional and apolitical nature of the Indian military has played a vital role — a role that has not been documented enough — in India’s stability as the world’s largest democracy. While its neighbours have struggled with military dictatorships and the constant undermining of civilian governments by Army HQ, in India the very professional and skilled military has helped in the creation of a unique template of democratic governance despite the country’s huge economic and sociopolitical challenges.


Unlike in Pakistan and Bangladesh, in India the military has never aspired to be an arbitrator of power. One of the factors for the politicisation of the military in these countries has been meddling by the political class in its professional running. India’s civilian governments, and its political class at large, on the other hand, have studiously heeded the military’s professionalism.


Military officers have not felt the need to pay extra-constitutional obeisance to political leaders to secure the top post. It is against this backdrop that the appointment of Lt. Gen. Rawat, by all accounts a highly competent officer, must be explained by the Narendra Modi government.


As disconcerting as a professional military losing a battle must be its senior Generals queuing up for a rendezvous with wily politicians.


Source : http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/col...appointment/article16913382.ece?homepage=true
 
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Dawood Magsi

Minister (2k+ posts)
WoW, this guy is going to be disapeared by Modi;s RSS gang. aik Kaala Ooper sey Christian Desh Drohi , iss ki himmat kaisey hoyi Bhata Maata k khilaaf bolnay ki :P
 

ramlal

Banned
HAHAHAH I think you live on another planet :P

since you live in pakistan so you can not imagine what real secular democracy is ?
this is india , no security state where army and i.s.i. calls the shot ,here parliament and political leaders are the decision makers .
army chief can not meet even defence minister without prior appointment . :)
 
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ramlal

Banned
There is world renown Dr. Zakir Naik...I wonder so many decades he was allowed to talk until the arrival of murdood modi.....

woh khud hi bhagora hai ,kyo nahi aata india ?

use india a kar apna kam karna chahiye ,no body has said he has done blasphemy ,no mumtaz qadri is waiting him .

jab pichhle 30 years se woh apna kaam kar raha hai tub to kisi ne kuchh nahi kaha ,ab kaun use maar dega .kisi hindu ko us se koi matlab nahi .

sare leaders uske programme me jate hai .

pakistan me qadianio ko jis tarah murder kia jata hai india waisa nahi.

 

mubarik Shah

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
woh khud hi bhagora hai ,kyo nahi aata india ?

use india a kar apna kam karna chahiye ,no body has said he has done blasphemy ,no mumtaz qadri is waiting him .

jab pichhle 30 years se woh apna kaam kar raha hai tub to kisi ne kuchh nahi kaha ,ab kaun use maar dega .kisi hindu ko us se koi matlab nahi .

sare leaders uske programme me jate hai .

pakistan me qadianio ko jis tarah murder kia jata hai india waisa nahi.



Baat shuroo hui thee YEH ENDIA HAI......
tau phir endia ko hee discuss karlo.... qadiani... yeh ..woh... na kar warna GOLDEN TEMPLE endia meh hai naaaaa????

Haan tau app bola kee woh bhagora hai...ainnn???
laikin khabar tau yeh lagee hoee hai..achanak napand ho gaya endia ko......



NEW DELHI: The government on Tuesday banned Islamic Research Foundation (IRF), the NGO of preacher Zakir Naik, as an 'unlawful organisation' for five years with immediate effect. The ban has been enforced under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act (UAPA) and approved at a meeting of the Union cabinet.Nov 16, 2016

[h=3]India Bans Organization Run by Controversial Televangelist Preacher ...[/h]www.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/world/asia/india-preacher-zakir-naik-banned.html
Nov 16, 2016 - NEW DELHI — The Indian government has banned a non
governmental organization run by a popular televangelist preacher, Zakir Naik,



 

ramlal

Banned
Baat shuroo hui thee YEH ENDIA HAI......
tau phir endia ko hee discuss karlo.... qadiani... yeh ..woh... na kar warna GOLDEN TEMPLE endia meh hai naaaaa????

Haan tau app bola kee woh bhagora hai...ainnn???
laikin khabar tau yeh lagee hoee hai..achanak napand ho gaya endia ko......



NEW DELHI: The government on Tuesday banned Islamic Research Foundation (IRF), the NGO of preacher Zakir Naik, as an 'unlawful organisation' for five years with immediate effect. The ban has been enforced under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act (UAPA) and approved at a meeting of the Union cabinet.Nov 16, 2016

India Bans Organization Run by Controversial Televangelist Preacher ...

www.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/world/asia/india-preacher-zakir-naik-banned.html
Nov 16, 2016 - NEW DELHI — The Indian government has banned a non
governmental organization run by a popular televangelist preacher, Zakir Naik,





oh bhai yeh india wapas kyo nahi aata ?

aakhir benazir bhutto ,nawaz sharif pakistan wapas aye ya nahi ?

yeh kyo choro ki tarah bhag raha hai ?

india wapas aye ise hindu aur musalman dono ka support milega .
 

Dawood Magsi

Minister (2k+ posts)
since you live in pakistan so you can not imagine what real secular democracy is ?
this is india , no security state where army and i.s.i. calls the shot ,here parliament and political leaders are the decision makers .
army chief can not meet even defence minister without prior appointment . :)

HAHAHA kid, You dont have any democracy, you have hindu theocracy. in Hindu Theocracy a puppet Sikh manmohan can become a PM but cant give justice to over hundered thousand his Sikhs brothers who were butchard in 80s. Democracy is just a veil for Hindu extremists of RSS Bajrang Dal and BJP. Pakistan is million times better we do not fight election in enemity of India while your elections are held uner the slogan of destroying Pakistan. So Stop pretending to be a democratic country. if you had even 1% of democracy your 40% of India wudnt be run by Army with the help of AFSPA from occupied Kashmir to Seven sister states and Red Corridor to United states of south India. wake up you cant make fool to genuine people :P
 

Dawood Magsi

Minister (2k+ posts)
since you live in pakistan so you can not imagine what real secular democracy is ?
this is india , no security state where army and i.s.i. calls the shot ,here parliament and political leaders are the decision makers .
army chief can not meet even defence minister without prior appointment . :)

Can you please free this poor guy from the claws of hindu Democracy ?
 
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mubarik Shah

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
oh bhai yeh india wapas kyo nahi aata ?

aakhir benazir bhutto ,nawaz sharif pakistan wapas aye ya nahi ?

yeh kyo choro ki tarah bhag raha hai ?

india wapas aye ise hindu aur musalman dono ka support milega .

Dr Zakir kub India say baga????? Please verify exact month/year..
 

ramlal

Banned
HAHAHA kid, You dont have any democracy, you have hindu theocracy. in Hindu Theocracy a puppet Sikh manmohan can become a PM but cant give justice to over hundered thousand his Sikhs brothers who were butchard in 80s. Democracy is just a veil for Hindu extremists of RSS Bajrang Dal and BJP. Pakistan is million times better we do not fight election in enemity of India while your elections are held uner the slogan of destroying Pakistan. So Stop pretending to be a democratic country. if you had even 1% of democracy your 40% of India wudnt be run by Army with the help of AFSPA from occupied Kashmir to Seven sister states and Red Corridor to United states of south India. wake up you cant make fool to genuine people :P

this is your point of view .................[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]
 

mubarik Shah

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
google it .he is perhaps in malaysia or soudi arab .


OKay I googled it and found it that he was giving lectures for the past 25 years until modi along with his RSS came to rule india... that's where all problems started for him and he had to leave ENDIA ... this proves your statement wrong that "it is ENDIA you can say anything you want....."


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[h=1]No plan to return to India soon: Zakir Naik[/h][h=2]Preacher says he is ‘totally against terror, killing innocent human beings’[/h]
[FONT=&quot]By: Express News Service | Mumbai | Updated: July 25, 2016 4:41 pm[/FONT]
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Zakir Naik accused of hate speech clarifies his statements with the Indian Media via videoconferencing arranged at a venue in Mazagaon, Mumbai
Express photo by Nirmal Harindran
[FONT=&quot]AFTER FOUR failed attempts to get a venue, controversial televangelist Dr Zakir Naik finally managed to address a press meet, where he termed himself a “messenger of peace” and said he had no plans of returning to India this year.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]During the press meet, held at a banquet hall in Mazagaon where he lives, he addressed the media from Medina over Skype. The meet lasted 5 hours, 10 minutes. “I have been giving lectures for more than 25 years, there is not a single talk of mine where I have encouraged any human being to kill any other innocent human being, whether Muslim or non-Muslim. I am totally against terrorism…,” Naik said.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Naik came under fire after reports that some terrorists involved in Dhaka attack followed him on social media and were inspired by his speeches.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He said he was available for any probe. “…no government agency has approached me. I welcome any probe against me. …but as per my plan I will come back next year.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Naik alleged that the Centre had failed to protect “messengers of peace” and fanatics were becoming powerful under the current regime. “If I would have been a member of ruling party or the information and broadcasting minister, I would have pulled up all those people (referring to the media) who have been targeting a messenger of peace. But, the present government remains silent,” he added.
WATCH VIDEO: Dhaka Attack: Zakir Naik Says He Did Not Influence Anyone[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]He added: “PM Modi was banned in more countries than I am. But just because he won the polls, situation for him changed. See the Gujarat riots… So many cases have been filed against him. But nobody will ask him anything because he is the Prime Minister,” he said.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Asked about his proximity with Congress, he said: “It was during the Congress rule that Peace TV was denied downlinking permission. So, to say I am close to Congress would be incorrect.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Replying to a query on a tape where he is heard saying, “Let’s have suicide bombings”, he said the tape was doctored and added that he had referred to suicide bombings” as a war tactic. “…Like the way it was used during World War II, Japan had Kamakazi pilots who did suicide bombings. I am against suicide bombings, it is the second major sin in Islam.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]To a question by The Indian Express on one of the parents of the recently busted IS module in Kerala claiming that Naik met his son, he replied that he is a popular figure and many people love to pose with him for photos.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]On his travel plans, he said, “I was not supposed to come back to India this year… Whenever I come to Mecca, I return only after a couple of months. But seeing the media trial of mine, I was ready to come for one-and-half days…but when I heard hotels are not welcoming, I thought of taking it on Skype. Why should I change my plans because of media trial?” he said.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]He also clarified that Peace TV hasn’t been banned, but has been denied downlinking permission, which makes its transmission by cable operators deemed illegal.[/FONT]
 

ramlal

Banned
OKay I googled it and found it that he was giving lectures for the past 25 years until modi along with his RSS came to rule india... that's where all problems started for him and he had to leave ENDIA ... this proves your statement wrong that "it is ENDIA you can say anything you want....."


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tell him to return india , why he is running from his country .
world's best muslim theology schools are running in deoband , barreilly , nadwa lucknow , no body stops them why naik is running away from his country .
there is no threat to him ,this is not pakistan .
 

mubarik Shah

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
tell him to return india , why he is running from his country .
world's best muslim theology schools are running in deoband , barreilly , nadwa lucknow , no body stops them why naik is running away from his country .
there is no threat to him ,this is not pakistan .


I
begged
him
to
return
to
ENDIA
and
he
said
he
will
once
murdood
modi
returns
to
his
hole
that
is
RAILWAY
STATION
and
again
starts
selling
CHAI
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