India to engulf Kashmir Officially, today. What should be an appropriate response from Pakistan?

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India’s government will formally break up Jammu and Kashmir state into two federal territories on Thursday (i.e Today), as part of a sweeping move to tighten its grip over the restive region that is at the heart of more than 70 years of hostility with Pakistan.

Reuters (WORLD NEWS OCTOBER 30, 2019)

Now what can be an appropriate reply from Pakistan?

But are we moving for a dialogue, or are we going to accept the monologue of India on this matter?

Remember, that WAR IS NOT A SOLUTION, but a quagmire to Victory (not necessarily Success). It inflates ego, not necessarily a Cause.

It is very contrasting to see the diplomacy efforts from both sides, with the Indian side being more aggressive about their approach to the matter, whereas the Pakistani Govt, showed a political will to enhance regional coordination by opening the Kartarpur Border terminal. Not only this, but the captured Pilot of IAF was handed over within a matter of days.

Although, it is also quite enervating to observe how UN is moving about this matter. Even the Islamic Brothers turned their backs. Chips are down. Period.

Boiling economy, soaring internal threats, gyrating political situations and then our "Islamic Nukes".

Recently, India had been able to make a point in UN about Moulana Masood Azhar in 2017 and more recently in the case of Hafiz Muhammad Saeed.

IK's aggressive and staunch speech at UN was not able to generate the impetus to move anything in Pakistan's favor in the International corridors.

What are our options, in this case?
 

A.jokhio

Minister (2k+ posts)
We already have lost Indian occupied kashmir....seems Pakistan has surrendered not only its right over IoK but rights Kashmiri for plebiscite too....time when Pakistan unitedly mst fight on all forums for Kasmiris...whole opposition under leadership of Fazlu wth help of stooge media, deliberately diverted public attention from kashmir to useless . stupid march.....
Further, our army also does not seems have any plan and will to fight, with our enemy on any thing....this war is so far seems won by India....
 

Londoner/Lahori

Minister (2k+ posts)
India is fifth generation war+ within Pakistan, can’t you see, total uncertainty within Pakistan, caused by India inside Pakistan through Indian assets of all kinds ?
 

Immu123

Senator (1k+ posts)
Kashmir k lye pakistan khuch nahe kar sakta hey. Kashmir ko hamesha pakistan ney apney mafad k lye use kia hey chaye ho army budget barhwana ho ya india par pressure dalna. Ager kashmir important hota pakistan k lye to ye dekhey beger k kia nuqsan hoga pakistan india par attack kerdeta. Ager india karachi par qabza karley(god forbidden) to kia us waqt bhi pakistan hamla nahe karey ga?
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
We already have lost Indian occupied kashmir....seems Pakistan has surrendered not only its right over IoK but rights Kashmiri for plebiscite too....time when Pakistan unitedly mst fight on all forums for Kasmiris...whole opposition under leadership of Fazlu wth help of stooge media, deliberately diverted public attention from kashmir to useless . stupid march.....
Further, our army also does not seems have any plan and will to fight, with our enemy on any thing....this war is so far seems won by India....
Don't blame Fazlu. This pathetic Cocaine Addict can only deliver lengthy speeches for domestic consumption . He is opening up a kartar corridor and becoming friend with Indians while Kashmir is quietly falling in to Indians hands.If fazlu doesn't have a march towards Islamabad, does Bongi allow Azad Kashmiris to march toward LOC ? There is absolutely no strategy how to gain back the Kashmir. Sadly, I agree with your first part that we should say good bye to Kashmir now and concentrate on our internal problems.
 

Nadir Bashir

Minister (2k+ posts)
1. Pakistan shall continue to support and raise Kashmir issue on international forums but with a time limit.
2. In the mean time, Pakistan shall start Razakars training for the expected war.
3. Full dress war rehearsal shall be carried out in major cities and the towns.
4. Pakistan shall continue exposing Nazism in india against muslims, christians, sikhs and other minorities.
5. Pakistan shall support separate state for Manipor, Nagaland, Assam, arunachal pardesh, Meghalaya, Tripura and Sikim.
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Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
1. Pakistan shall continue to support and raise Kashmir issue on international forums but with a time limit.
2. In the mean time, Pakistan shall start Razakars training for the expected war.
3. Full dress war rehearsal shall be carried out in major cities and the towns.
4. Pakistan shall continue exposing Nazism in india against muslims, christians, sikhs and other minorities.
I am not sure what kind of cheap grass you have been taking . Have not we done that already when we facilitated these groups and infiltrated them inside the Loc and eventually got labelled as the fertile land of terrorists ? What is wrong with Fat ass army generals ? When would they be able to do anything productive ? Are they shitting in pants right now ? Who is holding them attacking India using LOC ?
 
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Nadir Bashir

Minister (2k+ posts)
I am not sure what kind of cheap grass you have been taking . Have not we done that already when we facilitated these groups and infiltrated them inside the Loc and eventually labelled as the fertile land of terrorists ? What is wrong with Fat ass army generals ? When would they be able to do anything productive ? Are they shitting in pants right now ? Who is holding them attacking India using LOC ?
1. I said razakars working with the army not independently.
2. Groups shall not be allowed to work and must be banned.
3. Everywhere you do not have to fight. You just need to turn the focus. We shall encourage seven states union in india and even south is volatile as well.
4. We have always focused with india over kashmir. So we have to force them to commit their resources in central and south india.
5. Until the end of this term, indian economic situation will force moodi for an adventure against Pakistan. We shall wait for that...........
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
1. I said razakars working with the army not independently.
2. Groups shall not be allowed to work and must be banned.
3. Everywhere you do not have to fight. You just need to turn the focus. We shall encourage seven states union in india and even south is volatile as well.
4. We have always focused with india over kashmir. So we have to force them to commit their resources in central and south india.
Why army need Razakars ? Have not they paid enough to fight ? what is the purpose of raising a shebang of shitting Razakars for ? Just for the sacrifice ? Get some lamb from the market and put them in front of army soldiers to protect their asses if they are so coward. The action on Kashmir is due now.Not 20 years from now. In 20 years, the Bunya will change the demographic of the valley so much that the plebiscite will have no effects ..
 

Nadir Bashir

Minister (2k+ posts)
Why army need Razakars ? Have not they paid enough to fight ? what is the purpose of raising a shebang of shitting Razakars for ? Just for the sacrifice ? Get some lamb from the market and put them in front of army soldiers to protect their asses if they are so coward. The action on Kashmir is due now.Not 20 years from now. In 20 years, the Bunya will change the demographic of the valley so much that the plebiscite will have no effects ..
I think k main khoty k aagy been baja raha hon...........
Let india do whatever they want. Does it matter? Action in Kashmir is still four years late. When enemy is going to give you an opportunity why you start an adventure. So wait but diplomatic offensive shall be maintained.
When Kashmiris did not accept india with 370 and 35A, will they accept India without that?
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I think k main khoty k aagy been baja raha hon...........
Let india do whatever they want. Does it matter? Action in Kashmir is still four years late. When enemy is going to give you an opportunity why you start an adventure. So wait but diplomatic offensive shall be maintained.
When Kashmiris did not accept india with 370 and 35A, will they accept India without that?
You need to understand that nothing is in the hands of Kashmiris. With this abrogation of their clause , they will not just sit back idle . The reason for their abrogation was to settle Hindus in the valley . It seems you guys don't understand the gravity of this change. Your old mantra of sit tight and wait for Minna and Silwa isn't going to work here. That is why I said forget Kashmir and solve your own internal problems .
 

Nadir Bashir

Minister (2k+ posts)
You need to understand that nothing is in the hands of Kashmiris. With this abrogation of their clause , they will not just sit back idle . The reason for their abrogation was to settle Hindus in the valley . It seems you guys don't understand the gravity of this change. Your old mantra of sit tight and wait for Minna and Silwa isn't going to work here. That is why I said forget Kashmir and solve your own internal problems .
Then a local movement will start within Kashmir. Kashmiris in IOK shall stand against india.
We already tried several times but we never found the desired results since people within Kashmir did not supported us much and only verbally to threat india. Actually Kashmiris have to choose with final decision and not with ambiguity.
We shall wait for that movement where indian forces will not be able to find any house safe for them. Let them settle whatever they want.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Then a local movement will start within Kashmir. Kashmiris in IOK shall stand against india.
We already tried several times but we never found the desired results since people within Kashmir did not supported us much and only verbally to threat india. Actually Kashmiris have to choose with final decision and not with ambiguity.
We shall wait for that movement where indian forces will not be able to find any house safe for them. Let them settle whatever they want.
Shit man. That is why I said you should forget Kashmir and pay attention to your own problems. what kind of square one was built here. Razakars, Jehad, fight , kashmir etc etc . All BS ....