India: the Story You Never Wanted to Hear

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Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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When people ask me about my experience studying abroad in India, I always face the same dilemma. How does one convey the contradiction that over the past few months has torn my life apart, and convey it in a single succinct sentence?

“India was wonderful," I go with, "but extremely dangerous for women.” Part of me dreads the follow-up questions, and part of me hopes for more. I'm torn between believing in the efficacy of truth, and being wary of how much truth people want.

Because, how do I describe my three months in the University of Chicago Indian civilizations program when it was half dream, half nightmare? Which half do I give?

Do I tell them about our first night in the city of Pune, when we danced in the Ganesha festival, and leave it at that? Or do I go on and tell them how the festival actually stopped when the American women started dancing, so that we looked around to see a circle of men filming our every move?

Do I tell them about bargaining at the bazaar for beautiful saris costing a few dollars a piece, and not mention the men who stood watching us, who would push by us, clawing at our breasts and groins?

When people compliment me on my Indian sandals, do I talk about the man who stalked me for forty-five minutes after I purchased them, until I yelled in his face in a busy crowd?

Do I describe the lovely hotel in Goa when my strongest memory of it was lying hunched in a fetal position, holding a pair of scissors with the door bolted shut, while the staff member of the hotel who had tried to rape my roommate called me over and over, and breathing into the phone?

How, I ask, was I supposed to tell these stories at a Christmas party? But how could I talk about anything else when the image of the smiling man who masturbated at me on a bus was more real to me than my friends, my family, or our Christmas tree? All those nice people were asking the questions that demanded answers for which they just weren't prepared.

When I went to India, nearly a year ago, I thought I was prepared. I had been to India before; I was a South Asian Studies major; I spoke some Hindi. I knew that as a white woman I would be seen as a promiscuous being and a sexual prize. I was prepared to follow the University of Chicago’s advice to women, to dress conservatively, to not smile in the streets. And I was prepared for the curiosity my red hair, fair skin and blue eyes would arouse.

But I wasn't prepared.

There was no way to prepare for the eyes, the eyes that every day stared with such entitlement at my body, with no change of expression whether I met their gaze or not. Walking to the fruit seller's or the tailer's I got stares so sharp that they sliced away bits of me piece by piece. I was prepared for my actions to be taken as sex signals; I was not prepared to understand that there were no sex signals, only women's bodies to be taken, or hidden away.

I covered up, but I did not hide. And so I was taken, by eye after eye, picture after picture. Who knows how many photos there are of me in India, or on the internet: photos of me walking, cursing, flipping people off. Who knows how many strangers have used my image as pornography, and those of my friends. I deleted my fair share, but it was a drop in the ocean-- I had no chance of taking back everything they took.

For three months I lived this way, in a traveller's heaven and a woman's hell. I was stalked, groped, masturbated at; and yet I had adventures beyond my imagination. I hoped that my nightmare would end at the tarmac, but that was just the beginning. Back home Christmas red seemed faded after vermillion, and food tasted spiceless and bland. Friends, and family, and classes, and therapy, and everything at all was so much less real than the pain, the rage that was coursing through my blood, screaming so loud it deafened me to all other sounds. And after months of elation at living in freedom, months of running from the memories breathing down my neck, I woke up on April Fool's Day and found I wanted to be dead.

The student counselors diagnosed me with a personality disorder and prescribed me pills I wouldn't take. After a public breakdown I ended up in a psych ward for two days held against my will, and was released on the condition that I took a "mental leave of absence" from school and went to live with my mother. I thought I had lost my mind; I didn't connect any of it to India-- I had moved on. But then a therapist diagnosed me with PTSD and I realized I hadn't moved a single inch. I had frozen in time. And I’d fallen. And I’d shattered.

But I wasn't the only one, the only woman from my trip to be diagnosed with PTSD, to be forced into a psych ward, to wake up wanting to be dead. And I am not the only woman who is on a mental leave of absence from the University of Chicago for reasons of sexual assault and is unable to take classes.

Understanding my pain has helped me own it, if not relieve it. PTSD strikes me as a euphemism, because a syndrome implies a cure. What, may I ask, is the cure for seeing reality, of feeling for three months what its like for one's humanity to be taken away? But I thank God for my experiences in India, and for my disillusionment. Truth is a gift, a burden, and a responsibility. And I mean to share it.

This is the story you don't want to hear when you ask me about India. But this is the story you need.


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Quicqsolution

Senator (1k+ posts)
بھارتی گیدڑ اپنی مردانگی صرف خواتین پر نکال کر ظاہر کرتے ہیں۔کہ ہم بھی کوئی قوم ہیں۔
 

albany

Senator (1k+ posts)
actually Indians have the unique skill of portraying their country as hub of rich civilisation "colours" history. Europeans do believe it and when they visit that **** hole, they come back with promise of not going back again. Recently I met with a Swedish guy and he told me that during all his time in India it felt like he was visiting a gutter. He said he could smell **** and stink all the time everywhere.
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
india has issues, but why these naive students go there is the question, me as a man will hesitate to go so deep travel in india or even pakistan(bigsmile)
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
بھارتی گیدڑ اپنی مردانگی صرف خواتین پر نکال کر ظاہر کرتے ہیں۔کہ ہم بھی کوئی قوم ہیں۔

probably bharatee geedurr sick n tired of their dark, short, stinky, shapeless malnourshed indian females want now goora stuff, taste change, they are not muslims to think its zinnah right, just a thought.(bigsmile)
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
i think the common citizens in western countries are misled by shining india campaigns. The government should also mandate a mandatory security disclosure from the state department about the precautions to be taken while in India. They need to take the cigarette-ad approach :)
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The eyes of Bharati men are full of lust whenever they look at any woman. I would say that Sikh men in particular are very popular for having "gandi nazar" amongst Pakistani society that is very true. I remember once suggesting to a Sikh man who was lusting over a women as usual that he should sleep with his sister or mother if he was that desperate, my comment instantly removed the grin of his face. They all look upon white women as trophies to fight over instead of human beings hence all the rapes in their country. It does not help when many temples in Bharat are decorated with scriptures of naked women in intimate positions.
 
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Zionist Hindu

Senator (1k+ posts)
I am glad these stories are coming out. This kind of behavior is unacceptable. Government needs to crackdown on these perverts. Crime against women should be considered the biggest crime. Even bigger than terrorism. If India hangs 1000 sex offenders it will have great impact. India also needs effective policing. I don't have much hope though unless India has radical change in leadership. My heart goes out to those people who were protesting. There are two India one which is educated and working hard and succeeding the other who are left behind. Then there are those who are only good at producing lots of children that they can't afford then they forbid girl child to get higher education or work and marry them early. Worse kind of humans are those who don't respect women like those who takes dowry, thinks of daughter as burden stops them from becoming independent.
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
The eyes of Bharati men are full of lust whenever they look at any woman. I would say that Sikh men in particular are very popular for having "gandi nazar" amongst Pakistani society that is very true. I remember once suggesting to a Sikh man who was lusting over a women as usual that he should sleep with his sister or mother if he was that desperate, my comment instantly removed the grin of his face. They all look upon white women as trophies to fight over instead of human beings hence all the rapes in their country. It does not help when many temples in Bharat are decorated with scriptures of naked women in intimate positions.

Its all same India, Pakistan, Sirilanka, bangladesh, gulf countries, they lust woman with eyes and in some places even young cute boys are glanced too, horrific but true. The reason is because shadee is considered very expensive and guy has to get established to get married. So by 35-45 years average guy form cities get married unless born rich. This means as per our islam shadee when baaligh, well baaaligh at 12, wait another 30 years, its a natural phenomenon, not justified as we all nice guys go through and if brought up islamically stay away and place our gaze down on females. So cannot just blame India only, I mean in Dubai, abudhabee, young or old arab guys gaze without any fear your wife or your sister even your mom if she is young without any fear and then think they are muslims.(bigsmile)
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am glad these stories are coming out. This kind of behavior is unacceptable. Government needs to crackdown on these perverts. Crime against women should be considered the biggest crime. Even bigger than terrorism. If India hangs 1000 sex offenders it will have great impact. India also needs effective policing. I don't have much hope though unless India has radical change in leadership. My heart goes out to those people who were protesting. There are two India one which is educated and working hard and succeeding the other who are left behind. Then there are those who are only good at producing lots of children that they can't afford then they forbid girl child to get higher education or work and marry them early. Worse kind of humans are those who don't respect women like those who takes dowry, thinks of daughter as burden stops them from becoming independent.

What a racist statement, so you who is successful absolve yourself of your brethren citizens because they are uneducated, poor and uncivilized, u Indians need to learn to get rid of your prejudices and learn from Islam how to live like a human and not an animal. how to not oppress so called by you the lower class, This type of behavior can't go on, sooner or later people inwest will come to know real India and than all that good will be replaced by dislikes for India.
 

only_truths

Minister (2k+ posts)
While I do not deny that there are instances of the type posted in this thread (though with malicious intent being anti India story), there are positive aspects like two sides of coin. It is appropriate that this thread is posted when " Raksha Bandan" being celebrated only in India, no where heard of in the World. While there are few cases like Rose Chasm reported here, no denying that there are many cases of brotherly affection showed to many women visitors to the country.

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Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Its all same India, Pakistan, Sirilanka, bangladesh, gulf countries, they lust woman with eyes and in some places even young cute boys are glanced too, horrific but true. The reason is because shadee is considered very expensive and guy has to get established to get married. So by 35-45 years average guy form cities get married unless born rich. This means as per our islam shadee when baaligh, well baaaligh at 12, wait another 30 years, its a natural phenomenon, not justified as we all nice guys go through and if brought up islamically stay away and place our gaze down on females. So cannot just blame India only, I mean in Dubai, abudhabee, young or old arab guys gaze without any fear your wife or your sister even your mom if she is young without any fear and then think they are muslims.(bigsmile)

It's true that many men lust over women but from my experience Indians especially Sikh men are the worst. This is why rape is out of control in Bharat, they also show women as sexual beings not human beings in their movies.
 
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abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
It's true that many men lust over women but from my experience Indians especially Sikh men are the worst. This is why rape is out of control in Bharat, they also show women as sexual beings not human beings in their movies.

You are right the culture is loose and provocative. But things like that in their culture has been there for thousands of years, why now sudden rape epidemic, maybe due to half naked dances by bollywood actresses as katrina kaif and kareena kapoor;)
 
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Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You are right the culture is loose and provocative. But things like that in their culture has been there for thousands of years, why now sudden rape epidemic, maybe due to half naked dances by bollywood actresses as katrina kaif and kareena kapoor;)

In Bharat rape has always been committed in mass numbers only that now the victims have become more vocal. It's a common perception in their society that scantly clad women ask to be treated in such a manner as seen in Bollywood "item numbers" where the purpose is to sexually arouse men. Rape or not Bollywood makes money even if it's at the expense of this epidemic that is shattering their society.
 
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desicad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What a racist statement, so you who is successful absolve yourself of your brethren citizens because they are uneducated, poor and uncivilized, u Indians need to learn to get rid of your prejudices and learn from Islam how to live like a human l and not an animal. how to not oppress so called by you the lower class, This type of behavior can't go on, sooner or later people inwest will come to know real India and than all that good will be replaced by dislikes for India.
stop this fake and meaningless self righteousness.......better you learn to live like humans first and stop all crimes against women and killings in your country and then even think about preaching others, which anyway is not needed.........and don't worry about west, India is not on some other planet, they know what India is all about.........you just concentrate on how to improve image of your society......
 

imran_hosein_fan

Minister (2k+ posts)
the problem is not the indian people, the problem is the por-nography which has came from the west to east. similar sort of things happen in pakistan as well, so for this kind of attitude only the gora people are to blame themselves and sort the por-nography first and then see the attitude of people will be changed.