India Surrenderd to China AGAIN: India withdraws troops from disputed Himalayan region

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India withdraws troops from disputed Himalayan region, defusing tension with China






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In this July 2006 photo, a Chinese and Indian soldier place a barbed wire fence following a meeting of military representatives at the Nathu La border crossing between India and China in India's northeastern Sikkim state. (Desha-Kalyan Chowdhury/AFP/Getty Images)
By Simon Denyer and Annie Gowen August 28 at 4:31 AM


BEIJING — India has begun withdrawing troops from a disputed Himalayan region on the border with China, foreign ministries from the two countries announced Monday, defusing a tense stand-off that had threatened to provoke armed conflict between thenuclear-armedAsian rivals.

For the past two months, Indian and Chinese troops had faced off on a plateau in the Doklam area in Himalayas, after Indian troops moved in to prevent the Chinese military building a road into territory claimed by India’s close ally, Bhutan.

China had repeatedly and furiously denounced the Indian move as a direct infringement of its sovereignty, demanded an immediate and unconditional withdrawal, and warned that conflict was a real possibility if that didn’t happen.

On Monday, the two sides announced they had reached an agreement. But it was unclear if Beijing offered any concessions in return, such as agreeing to halt the construction of the road.

China said only that it would redeploy its forces according to the changing situation, but would continue to patrol and garrison the area.
In a short statement, India’s Ministry of External Affairs said the two countries had maintained diplomatic communication over the dispute in recent weeks.
“During these communications, we were able to express our views and convey our concerns and interests,” it said. “On this basis, expeditious disengagement of border personnel at the face-off site at Doklam has been agreed to and is on-going.”

China’s Foreign Ministry said it was happy to confirm that all Indian “individuals and facilities” have withdrawn to the India side of the border.
Without saying so directly, Beijing implied it would not need to keep so many troops stationed in the area, having moved a number there in response to the Indian deployment.

“The Chinese frontier defense force will continue to patrol and garrison in the Doklam area,” spokeswoman Hua Chunying told a regular news conference. “The situation at the spot has changed, and China will adjust and deploy according to current situation.”

Hua said China will “exercise its sovereign rights according to the historical treaty and guard its territorial sovereignty.”

China maintains the area in question was listed as on its side of the border under the 1890 “Convention Between Great Britain and China Concerning Sikkim and Tibet.”

“The Chinese government values the development of a harmonious neighborly relationship with India,” Hua said. “China hopes India will join it in maintaining border peace and stability on the basis of mutual respect, and keep the relationship developing in a healthy way.”

Earlier on Monday, the state-owned China Daily newspaper had warned India stood “to face retribution” over the incident, arguing that New Delhi was complacent if it thought China was not prepared for military conflict if necessary.

The announcement clears the air ahead of a meeting of the “BRICS” countries in China this weekend, a bloc comprising Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.
“It’s hugely good news,” said Wang Dehua, an Indian studies expert at the Shanghai Institute for International Studies.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, he said, had “made a sound decision at a crucial moment that will benefit both Chinese and Indian people and the generations to come.”

“We have avoided falling into the situation where two major countries with ancient civilizations become hostile enemies,” Wang said, while cautioning against declaring the incident a big win or a diplomatic victory for China.

He said China would try to address India’s security concerns when Modi visits for the summit, but would continue building roads in border areas. “We should show them that building roads will be beneficial for all and there’s nothing to worry about,” he said.

In India, some experts interpreted the statements — and New Delhi’s comments about having raised its security concerns — to mean that China had quietly agreed to stop building the road in question, but would not say so publicly. Others said this was not clear.

“As the Chinese have stated publicly that Indian troops have withdrawn, India should also state clearly that China won't make that road,” Sushant Singh, associate editor of the Indian Express tweeted. “That will clear all the confusion about the terms on which the disengagement happened.”

Noting that China said it would continue to fulfill its territorial rights, opposition member of parliament Shashi Tharoor asked if this would include road-building.
“Did we blink?,” he tweeted.

The tiny Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan was inadvertently swept up into the dispute when Indian soldiers moved from a nearby garrison into territory Bhutan contests with China, to block a crew from China's People’s Liberation Army that was preparing to build a “motorable” road in the area.

A few hundred troops from India and China were eventually deployed in a standoff that has produced harsh rhetoric — mostly from the Chinese side — and sparked a period of tension between the neighbors not seen for decades, analysts have said.


Although India and China have often sparred over the disputed areas along their estimated 2,100 mile border — and fought a brief war over it in 1962 — this clash was unusual because it involved a third country and came at a time when relations between India and China were at a low ebb.

Whether India — long a great patron of Bhutan — moved after coordinating with Bhutanese forces, as the Indians have said, or moved in on their own, as China claims, is the subject of much debate.

The Bhutan government was careful not to make comments and inflame tensions, and, aside from one brief statement from their Foreign Ministry, maintained a calculated silence throughout the dispute.

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Gowen reported from New Delhi. Shirley Feng and Luna Lin in Beijing contributed to this report.

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Dawood Magsi

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Lagta hai Baniye k sarr sey Uncle Sam nain Haath Uthha liye hai, aor bata diya k Cheeni Kacha Chaba jayain gay jiss k Bahd Baniye nain hosh k Nakhun liye aor Wapas ghar lot aaey, Chinese hans rahay hain k 1962 main jo zillat Baniye ko milli wohi ab bhi iss k Naseeb main aayi.
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Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
That is good that there is no war and loss of life.
Indian policy has been quite weak. They would had faced further animosity of Bhutani people, if they had lingered the conflict. Modi sarkar will pay the price as Bhutanis will, from now on, seriously have to reach out towards away from India to safeguard their interests. That has been another dumb move by Modi which will cost India in the coming days.

As a well wisher of all common people of the region, I assume, the current Modi/Trump nexus regarding war in Afghanistan is quite harmful for India in the long run, and the price could be quite high on a number of fronts. India is best served by an Indo/pak settlement regarding their business interests in Afghan otherwise they risk being altogether out of business in Afghanistan within decades. It is so strange and unfortunate that sensible Indians are not coming out to oppose Modi's disastrous policies - it seems like the opposition in India is quite weak or too inward looking.
 
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nepali.nationalist

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lo bhi ...agaya chain ch@ddi ko ???....dediyay na phir say RASGULLAY ??....arey SUPA PAWA kahan hain ??[hilar][hilar][hilar]

ary jub aukaat nahi hai to acting kiyoon kertay ho ??....kahan gaee 56 inch ka breast aur baqi ub bakwaas ???[hilar][hilar]

China nay is dafa to 1962 baton mein hi kerkay dikha diya hai [hilar][hilar][hilar]
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
lo bhi ...agaya chain ch@ddi ko ???....dediyay na phir say RASGULLAY ??....arey SUPA PAWA kahan hain ??[hilar][hilar][hilar]

ary jub aukaat nahi hai to acting kiyoon kertay ho ??....kahan gaee 56 inch ka breast aur baqi ub bakwaas ???[hilar][hilar]

China nay is dafa to 1962 baton mein hi kerkay dikha diya hai [hilar][hilar][hilar]

Ch@ddian to China nay cheer dein. Pursa dainay kay liyae jeeray wali daal ham peish kar daitay hein.
 

nepali.nationalist

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ch@ddi kay chailon ko boht bhera SHOCK laga hai ...isliay abhi woh kuch dinoan tk nazer nahi ayeingay..[hilar][hilar]

yeh saal kuch acha nahi hai ch@ddi kay liay ....her jaga mu ki khani per rahi hai .....[hilar][hilar][hilar]

champions trophy kay baad yeh doosra tamaacha khaya hai ....jeeray ka tarka laga kay [hilar][hilar]

Ch@ddian to China nay cheer dein. Pursa dainay kay liyae jeeray wali daal ham peish kar daitay hein.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
ch@ddi kay chailon ko boht bhera SHOCK laga hai ...isliay abhi woh kuch dinoan tk nazer nahi ayeingay..[hilar][hilar]

yeh saal kuch acha nahi hai ch@ddi kay liay ....her jaga mu ki khani per rahi hai .....[hilar][hilar][hilar]

champions trophy kay baad yeh doosra tamaacha khaya hai ....jeeray ka tarka laga kay [hilar][hilar]

@ChandBibi to ho sakta hay apnay Chanda maamon kay visit par hon. Magar doosri Ch@ddiyan to itni baysharam hein keh unkay liyae to yeh maamool ki baat thi. Lagta hay unka langar band hay.
 

nepali.nationalist

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bilcul sahi kaha hai apnay. mager ch@ddi nay yeh samjha tha kay ch@ddi sarkar shayad thori "ijjat" banaday ....mager is zillat kay baad ab unhein is baat ka pata lag jana chahiyay ....kay Bina TOILET kay ACTUAL Super Power say panga nahi leyna chahiyay [hilar][hilar][hilar]

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@ChandBibi to ho sakta hay apnay Chanda maamon kay visit par hon. Magar doosri Ch@ddiyan to itni baysharam hein keh unkay liyae to yeh maamool ki baat thi. Lagta hay unka langar band hay.
 

canadian43

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Sorry Guys as far as i beleive India won in this situation , this is what india wanted that chines will leave that doklam Area. Here india wins.

I might be wrong too.. but lagta aise hai india jita hai un ki diplomacy or fauji takat ne china ko majboor kia kay wo apni constructions rok ker apni army wapis lay jay ...


Long live Pakistan.
 
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Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Sorry Guys as far as i beleive India won in this situation , this is what india wanted that chines will leave that doklam Area. Here india wins.

I might be wrong too.. but lagta aise hai india jita hai un ki diplomacy or fauji takat ne china ko majboor kia kay wo apni constructions rok ker apni army wapis lay jay ...

Long live Pakistan.

Ch@ddi under false flag.........................[hilar]
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Sorry Guys as far as i beleive India won in this situation , this is what india wanted that chines will leave that doklam Area. Here india wins.

I might be wrong too.. but lagta aise hai india jita hai un ki diplomacy or fauji takat ne china ko majboor kia kay wo apni constructions rok ker apni army wapis lay jay ...


Long live Pakistan.

The situation was simple, in my opinion. Unless Bhutan had an issue and had made demands/requests, Indians had no case for interference. Bhutanis wanted no war, which simply meant that Indian forces should return back to their positions. It was the BJP/modi sarkar who made claims for unilateral actions under the India/Bhutan treaty and brought in the forces.

I assume, you are repeating the convoluted logic as espoused by BJP followers and what BJP ministers are claiming in parliament for the consumption of Indian populace and local politics -- that we stood up to mighty China ---- and that led to what --they got reluctant Bhutani government and opposition from the common/educated Bhutanis who demanded to come out of the holds of Indian over their external affairs and to diversify their business meaning they ought to make better economic relation with China to balance the Indians. The purpose of the chinese roads was to have better business relations with Bhutan.
Now, of course, BJP/modi sarkar will attempt for regime change in Bhutan but that would be have no different results what they got in Nepal.
 
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kakamana

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Ch@ddion ki chadi phattt gaye bhag gaye. chale thae hamaliya ko fateh karne...chalo beta lago 1962 ki tasvireen. aaj ch@dion ke ache din aa gaye hain aik unka guru garmet ram ko rape ki saza hogaye dosri china ne inki baja de. bulo ab apne international CEOs ko shayad wohi koi izat bacha lain