India, Pakistan spar over terror suspect's claims

[WatanDost]

India, Pakistan spar over terror suspect's claims
If there was ever any hope that catching the terrorists behind the Mumbai attacks would ease tensions between India and Pakistan, it's dead and cremated now.
Jason OverdorfJuly 2, 2012 05:05

Indian schoolchildren hold placards as they take out a silent march in
memoryof those killed in bomb blastes in Mumbai on July 20, 2011.
(INDRANIL MUKHERJEE/AFP/Getty Images)

Does anybody still believe there's anything to be gained through publicly announcing added evidence that Pakistan's spy agency and perhaps other state forces allegedly played a role in the planning and execution of the November 2008 terrorist attacks on Mumbai?

Apparently. Or at least that's what it seems like from the pronouncements by Indian Home Minister P. Chidambaram over the past week or so -- which began practically before police could get the cuffs on Zabiuddin Ansari, aka Abu Jundal.

[HI]So far, Chidambaram and other Indian officials have revealed that Ansari/Jundal has told interrogators that there were about 10 people in the Karachi "control room" that ran the Mumbai attacks by remote control. They've said Ansari/Jundal has admitted to guiding the attackers himself by telephone. And they've revealed that Ansari/Jundal told them that men who appeared to be officers in Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) were in the control room and helped a Lashkar-e-Taiba communications expert to set it up. He also said that the room had at least four laptops with voice over internet protocol (VoIP) connects, though it foxes me why that's important.

[/HI]Has Pakistan suddenly 'fessed up and offered to make some arrests, look at sketches of the two men in the control room who Ansari/Jundal says "looked like ISI officers" or offered to pay reparations for the lives lost in the attacks?

Of course not. And the added "proof" -- I'm not sure how reliable we should consider this guy, and so far we're getting stuff second hand from interrogations rather than court testimony -- hasn't done much but sent India-Pakistan relations spiraling backward.

Chidambaram's counterpart in Pakistan, Rehman Malik, has answered his every utterance with a (okay, not very convincing) denial. When Ansari/Jundal was first nabbed, reportedly thwarting Pakistani diplomatic efforts to get him spirited out of Saudi Arabia, Malik's reaction was that he couldn't be Pakistani if he was a criminal traveling on a stolen passport. (That Ansari/Jundal is an Indian citizen wasn't at issue). A few days later he demanded that India apologize for sending a newly released prisoner to Pakistan to spy on its age-old enemy -- 30 years ago!

And in the latest response, Pakistani authorities claimed that there were at least 40 Indian nationals involved in the Mumbai attacks.

[HI]"Our information is that there were at least 40 Indian nationals who helped the attackers. We want India to come clean on this," an unnamed official of Pakistan's Foreign Office was quoted as saying by The Express Tribune, according to the HT.

[/HI]That may well be true. And if it is, maybe India would benefit from announcing it along with all the other revelations it's unloading in real time from the interrogation cell. But it's also a bit off-topic, if we're talking about allegations that the ISI was driving the whole operation.

[HI]But the back and forth shows one thing for sure. If there was ever any hope that catching the Mumbai attackers would ease tensions between India and Pakistan, it's dead and cremated now.

[/HI]http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/india/india-pakistan-spar

 

[PkRevolution]

40 INDIAN attackers involved in Mumbai attacks- Pakistan

INDIAN PROXY WAR AGAINST PAKISTAN

http://indiawest.com/news/5290--40-indians-involved-in-mumbai-attack.html

 

[hans]

Re: 40 INDIAN attackers involved in Mumbai attacks- Pakistan

[h=1]India wins another gulf war, gets Fasih[/h]After the arrest of 26/11 handler Abu Jundal, India is on the verge of another success in Saudi Arabia having convinced the authorities there to deport Bihar engineer Fasih Mahmood, accused of carrying out terror strikes in India and recruiting youths for terror-related activities. Highly placed sources in the government said India issued an identity certificate to the Saudi authorities for Fasih last week after Pakistani agencies too laid claim by stating that Fasih had a valid Pakistani passport. Pakistani agencies had made a similar claim for Jundal.

 

[Bangash]

Re: 40 INDIAN attackers involved in Mumbai attacks- Pakistan

انڈیا کتنے عرصےسے دہشت گردی کے ایک واقعے کے مجرموں کے پیچھے تحقیق کر رہا ہے جبکہ پاکستان میں ایسے ہزاروں واقعے ہوتے ہیں اور حکومت ایسے خاموش رہتی ہے جیسے کہ کچھ ہوا ہی نہیں یا ان دہشت گردی کے واقعیا ت سے ان کا کوئی تعلق ہی نہیں- عوام مرتے جائیں اور یہ لوگ اپنے اکاونٹ بھرتے جائینگے اپنی سیاست اور اقتدار کے مسلوں میں پڑے رہتے ہیں - لعنت ہو ایسے سیاست دانوں ایسے لیڈروں پر، الله سے یہی دعا کہ ان سب کا بیڑا غرق ہوجائے
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[Imranpak]

It'll all blow over because there is nothing really that India can do especially after the recent claim of Pakistanis sitting in Lahore about to attack Mumbai:lol:. Until they allow our officials access to Ajmal Kasab or whoever he is and bring the killers of Pakistanis on Samjhauta Express to justice nothing will change.

Hafiz Saeed has been cleared of any wrong doing so they just have to get over it. If we can stop USA/NATO supplies who are the most powerful military force then we're certainly not afraid of these Bharatis either.

 

[M Ali Khan]

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It'll all blow over because there is nothing really that India can do especially after the recent claim of Pakistanis sitting in Lahore about to attack Mumbai:lol:. Until they allow our officials access to Ajmal Kasab or whoever he is and bring the killers of Pakistanis on Samjhauta Express to justice nothing will change.

Hafiz Saeed has been cleared of any wrong doing so they just have to get over it. If we can stop USA/NATO supplies who are the most powerful military force then we're certainly not afraid of these Bharatis either.

Last I checked, Colonel Purohit is in jail and facing trial for the Samjhauta Express massacre.

Can we say the same about Hafiz Saeed, Zaki ur Rehman Lakhvi, Malik Ishaq Jhangvi, Maulana Abdul Aziz etc?

 

[Imranpak]

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Last I checked, Colonel Purohit is in jail and facing trial for the Samjhauta Express massacre.

Can we say the same about Hafiz Saeed, Zaki ur Rehman Lakhvi, Malik Ishaq Jhangvi, Maulana Abdul Aziz etc?

Purohit was not on his own, what about the Hindutva thugs that supported him?? The people you mentioned have all been cleared of any wrong doing unless you can prove otherwise. Give us access to question Ajmal Kasab and Abu Jundal even in your country, that's a fair demand that you should accept if you've nothing to hide. Also explain why Ajmal was using terms like "bhagwan" that a Muslim will never do.

 

[Imranpak]

Re: 40 INDIAN attackers involved in Mumbai attacks- Pakistan

He's from Bihar that is a part of India so you can do whatever you want to with him. You should know by now that Pak will not be bullied into accepting your claims as we can give far worse then what we receive.

 

[M Ali Khan]

Purohit was not on his own, what about the Hindutva thugs that supported him?? The people you mentioned have all been cleared of any wrong doing unless you can prove otherwise. Give us access to question Ajmal Kasab and Abu Jundal even in your country, that's a fair demand that you should accept if you've nothing to hide. Also explain why Ajmal was using terms like "bhagwan" that a Muslim will never do.

Of course they have since NO ONE was willing to come forward and testify against these scoundrels in a court of law.

The fact that they declared Mullah Abdul Aziz of Lal Masjid as INNOCENT after the 2007 Fitnah because everyone was scared of what these mullahs and their SSP-LeJ-ASWJ allies will do to them and their families just shows that the most wretched scoundrels and filth that have hijacked Pakistan are free to do their business of hate, bigotry and exploitation.

The fact that Malik Ishaq Jhangvi always boasted about killing so many Shias and THREATENED judges and lawyers in court over what would happen to their families, and the fact that many witnesses and judges were attacked and killed, yet he was released as "INNOCENT".

While anyone who raises objection to these monsters and calls for stopping discrimination against minorities and stopping religious bigotry is automatically called "Amreeki Hindu Agent".

What does that tell you?

Lets stop pandering to these Jihadis please. Yeh humarey Asteen k Saanp hain. Why else has the TTP become a deadly force? Because these Jihadis have joined them!

 

[Imranpak]

Of course they have since NO ONE was willing to come forward and testify against these scoundrels in a court of law.

The fact that they declared Mullah Abdul Aziz of Lal Masjid as INNOCENT after the 2007 Fitnah because everyone was scared of what these mullahs and their SSP-LeJ-ASWJ allies will do to them and their families just shows that the most wretched scoundrels and filth that have hijacked Pakistan are free to do their business of hate, bigotry and exploitation.

The fact that Malik Ishaq Jhangvi always boasted about killing so many Shias and THREATENED judges and lawyers in court over what would happen to their families, and the fact that many witnesses and judges were attacked and killed, yet he was released as "INNOCENT".

While anyone who raises objection to these monsters and calls for stopping discrimination against minorities and stopping religious bigotry is automatically called "Amreeki Hindu Agent".

What does that tell you?

Lets stop pandering to these Jihadis please. Yeh humarey Asteen k Saanp hain. Why else has the TTP become a deadly force? Because these Jihadis have joined them!

I dislike these jihadists more then anyone but we must remian vigilant of blaming everything on them which is what Bharat wants us to do. They have caused much damage in Pakistan by brainswashing youngsters into intolerance but that does not mean they were responsible for 26/11.

I should have said that they have been cleared of being involved in 26/11 yet still have many things to answer for.