India: (After South India now) Efforts to impose Hindi will meet with protests: Bengal academician

Beef.Bhaijan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Efforts to impose Hindi will meet with protests: Bengal academicians, writers
The Sahitya Akademi awardee also refused to say if the National Education Policy draft was part of the Centre's efforts to "saffronise education".


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Indo-Asian News ServiceKolkataJune 2, 2019UPDATED: June 2, 2019 17:39 IST

Students participate in a programme to mark 'Hindi Diwas', at a school in Moradabad, on September 14, 2018 (PTI)

Academicians and writers in West Bengal on Sunday opposed the draft National Education Policy that recommends making teaching of Hindi compulsory up to class 8, saying efforts to impose any language would meet with all-round protests.

Former Rabindra Bharati University vice-chancellor and renowned linguist Pabitra Sarkar said the K Kasturirangan Committee's suggestion with regard to mandatory teaching of Hindi would "put more pressure" on the students of primary classes.

He said while students of class 6, 7 and 8 could be taught Hindi, it was not be proper to make the language compulsory from class 1. "The present education system already puts too much burden on the students. Let us not increase it," Sarkar told IANS.

He said it was wrong to "impose anything from above", and pointed out that the southern states had already protested against any such move.
Instead, Sarkar suggested that in non-Hindi speaking states, the Hindi speaking people should also learn the main regional language.
"For instance, in Bengal, the Hindi speaking population should learn Bangla. This will help in the spread of regional languages as well as in national integration by upholding India's core philosophy of unity in diversity," he said.

Legendary Bengali author Shirshendu Mukhopadhyay took heart from the central government's assurance that there would be no imposition.

"This is only a draft. I think if there are protests, they won't impose this on us. South India is already protesting. There will hopefully be protests in Bengal too.
"Imposing anything is not right. What language an individual should learn must be a voluntary decision," Mukhopadhyay told IANS.
The Sahitya Akademi awardee also refused to say if the NEP draft was part of the Centre's efforts to "saffronise education".

"Efforts to impose Hindi on the country's non-Hindi speaking people have been going on for a long time. Some sections in the Hindi belt have been doing this. So I don't think this is saffronisation of education," said the octogenarian, who has penned nearly 100 books of short stories and novels for the adult readers, and 34 for teenagers -- most of them bestsellers.

Jadavpur University vice-chancellor Suranjan Das refused to comment, saying he was yet to go through the complete draft.

Famed poet and academician Subodh Sarkar had a different take on the controversy. "If they want to make Hindi compulsory upto class 8, I'll ask why not Bangla? With 25 crore speakers, it is a more international language. In the world ranking of languages, Bangla mostly figures above Hindi," Sarkar told IANS.
Sarkar said any imposition of Hindi would not be acceptable in a country like India. "There are so many other languages like Marathi, Urdu, Malayalam and so on. Why just Hindi? These languages must be given their due importance," he said.

Dividing states into Hindi speaking and non-Hindi speaking, the Kasturirangan Committee recommends teaching of Hindi in non-Hindi speaking states in addition to the regional language and English.

In the case of Hindi speaking states, the Committee suggests teaching of Hindi, English and one of the modern Indian languages from other parts of India.
However, it has not specified what the modern Indian language would be. Tamil has been accorded a classical language status by the Central government.

 
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Beef.Bhaijan

Minister (2k+ posts)
What needs to be understood is India NEVER HAD One language as it is a collection of 550 independant states.


It was the MUSLIM MUGHAL RULERS of Hindustan that made Two Variants of Hindustani known as URDU and Hindu and it consisted of words from persian, turkish, arabic and sanskrit languages for the Muslim Rulers and the Hindu Population class .

Mughals are known as the most Multi-cultural and Multi-linguistically accomodating people. Thats why they created an Arabic Script Hindustani language known as URDU which was used in the Mughal Army and the sanskrit script to keep the Hindu population happy.

The Muslims NEVER IMPOSED ARABIC SCRIPT of Urdu on Hindus - ? Infact Every Hindustani language and religion was preserved!

Such was the benevolence of Muslim Rulers of India that India today is 80 % Hindu with all their culture and Language Intact !
 
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Beef.Bhaijan

Minister (2k+ posts)
But ch@ddi sarkar in continuing its r@cist policies wants to Impose Hindi on all south Indian states, bengal and other states where Hindi barely spoken and this is why all of South India, bengal, Muslims who speak Urdu are opposing this latest cultural assault.
 

Beef.Bhaijan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Pakistan stands with South India and Bengal and will work to promote regional languages like Tamil, malayalam, bangla inorder to realise the culture of those people and preserve their language.

JOY BANGLA ?
 

insouciant

Minister (2k+ posts)
I don't know how South Indians can bear Stupidness of the North Indians. South is the most prosperous and educated region of India with one of the most hard working people you'll find on earth! Yet severely marginalized by the North! I think South will for sure announce Independence under Modi... !!

But ch@ddi sarkar in continuing its r@cist policies wants to Impose Hindi on all south Indian states, bengal and other states where Hindi barely spoken and this is why all of South India, bengal, Muslims who speak Urdu are opposing this latest cultural assault.
 

Beef.Bhaijan

Minister (2k+ posts)
And they also dont carry the historical humiliation of being slaves to muslims which is why they dont always have Pakistan phobia as well. ?

It is only the brahman-nagar of the Hindi-belt which feels this humiliation!

I don't know how South Indians can bear Stupidness of the North Indians. South is the most prosperous and educated region of India with one of the most hard working people you'll find on earth! Yet severely marginalized by the North! I think South will for sure announce Independence under Modi... !!
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What needs to be understood is India NEVER HAD One language as it is a collection of 550 independant states.


It was the MUSLIM MUGHAL RULERS of Hindustan that made Two Variants of Hindustani known as URDU and Hindu and it consisted of words from persian, turkish, arabic and sanskrit languages for the Muslim Rulers and the Hindu Population class .

Mughals are known as the most Multi-cultural and Multi-linguistically accomodating people. Thats why they created an Arabic Script Hindustani language known as URDU which was used in the Mughal Army and the sanskrit script to keep the Hindu population happy.

The Muslims NEVER IMPOSED ARABIC SCRIPT of Urdu on Hindus - ? Infact Every Hindustani language and religion was preserved!

Such was the benevolence of Muslim Rulers of India that India today is 80 % Hindu with all their culture and Language Intact !

Hindi/ Urdu was never a official language in Mugal empire . Mugal Empire language was Persian.

Hindi was the language of Hindu Bhagti movement and of some sufi poets who were in contact with local Hindus. Urdu was created by British to get rid of Persian , Persian was removed as state language and local Hindi language with Arabo/Persian script was imposed to created unity between Hindus and Muslims . Hence Urdu was created.

Hindus objected to the use of Arabo/ Persian script on the contention that Indo/ Pak has their own writing script , so does not need any Arabic script . Hindus did not want Arabic script to destroy their Indian script as it destroyed the ancient Persian script and left poor Persians without any culture of their own and made them a permanent slaves of Arabs!

Hindus are brave people even Akbar had to make up with them and founded a big Mugal empire with the help of Hindus . Auragzeb hired this big Empire but his anti Hindu policies destroyed the empire .

Brave Hindus succeeded in saving the culture and language of their ancestors but those Hindus who converted to Islam their culture and languages were destroyed by invaders ,

Look at Pashtuns , Sindhis , Western Punjabis and Baloch now all of them do not remember what was their ancient writing script all of them robbed of their culture and languages by Invaders and now all of them are writing their language in Arabic script all were turned into Arabic slaves . Keep enjoying you shame Beef ?

Soon brave gharatmand Pakistanis will revive the script of their ancestors as did the brave Muslims of Bangladesh , Malaysia and Indonesia ?
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
And they also dont carry the historical humiliation of being slaves to muslims which is why they dont always have Pakistan phobia as well. ?

It is only the brahman-nagar of the Hindi-belt which feels this humiliation!

Candidly speaking Hindus are still independent people , those Hindus who got scared and converted to the religion of Invaders became permanent slaves like Persians and are nowaday living in Pakistan

Look at brave Bangladeshi , Indonesian and Malaysian Muslims they are still proud of their culture and language they do not use Arabic script nor they became Arabic slaves .Even Turks have left Arabic script but we Pakistanis are big timed fucked up by Turkish invaders lost our culture our languages our identity , our pride . We are really fucked up Beef , and fucked up people like us can only produce people like Beef.Bhaijan ?
 

Beef.Bhaijan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Who said Persian was NOT the official language of the Mughal Empire ??

How many cow-dung patties have you had for breakfast today ??
Hindus never had one language as their is no one hindu. Hindu means from the land of the sindh river . Hinduism doesnt have one diety, its not one people, and it certainly does not have one book either.

British had nothing to do with URDU which was developed as a military language to get the Muslim and HIndu subjects to understand each other.

Britain is known to spread ENGLISH which was to confuse the local population which is why you are so confused today ?

The reason you want to discredit Urdu and Hindi is because it destroys the RSS narrative of Extreme Cultural accomodation by the Muslim Mughals, THAT is the real reason , jealousy and nothing else. so be it.

Here is an excerpt from the BBC Historical Alamniac talking about who created URDU ?

Since you are bed-fellows with them maybe you will understand the language of your masters ...here read :

Introduction

The Mughal Empire
The Taj Mahal houses the jewelled tomb of Mumtaz Mahal, much loved wife of emperor Shah Jehan ©
The Mughal (or Mogul) Empire ruled most of India and Pakistan in the 16th and 17th centuries.

It consolidated Islam in South Asia, and spread Muslim (and particularly Persian) arts and culture as well as the faith.

The Mughals were Muslims who ruled a country with a large Hindu majority. However for much of their empire they allowed Hindus to reach senior government or military positions.

The Mughals brought many changes to India:

  • Centralised government that brought together many smaller kingdoms
  • Delegated government with respect for human rights
  • Persian art and culture
  • Persian language mixed with Arabic and Hindi to create Urdu
  • Periods of great religious tolerance
  • A style of architecture (e.g. the Taj Mahal)
  • A system of education that took account of pupils' needs and culture

Go cook some fake history elsewhere....the educated world knows where to give credit !

Hindi/ Urdu was never a official language in Mugal empire . Mugal Empire language was Persian.

Hindi was the language of Hindu Bhagti movement and of some sufi poets who were in contact with local Hindus. Urdu was created by British to get rid of Persian , Persian was removed as state language and local Hindi language with Arabo/Persian script was imposed to created unity between Hindus and Muslims . Hence Urdu was created.

Hindus objected to the use of Arabo/ Persian script on the contention that Indo/ Pak has their own writing script , so does not need any Arabic script . Hindus did not want Arabic script to destroy their Indian script as it destroyed the ancient Persian script and left poor Persians without any culture of their own and made them a permanent slaves of Arabs!

Hindus are brave people even Akbar had to make up with them and founded a big Mugal empire with the help of Hindus . Auragzeb hired this big Empire but his anti Hindu policies destroyed the empire .

Brave Hindus succeeded in saving the culture and language of their ancestors but those Hindus who converted to Islam their culture and languages were destroyed by invaders ,

Look at Pashtuns , Sindhis , Western Punjabis and Baloch now all of them do not remember what was their ancient writing script all of them robbed of their culture and languages by Invaders and now all of them are writing their language in Arabic script all were turned into Arabic slaves . Keep enjoying you shame Beef ?

Soon brave gharatmand Pakistanis will revive the script of their ancestors as did the brave Muslims of Bangladesh , Malaysia and Indonesia ?
 

Beef.Bhaijan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Which Hindus ?

You mean the people of 550 independant states who were too busy fighting amongst each other for 5000 years ?????

Those people were a colossal Failure throughout History.

They used to attack each others temples and take over the gold and other treasures kept in those temples as state treasury...

The caste discrimination was such that a Lower Caste Native was never allowed in a high cast Temple or was killed for entering a temple!

On the other hand the Lower castes could enter a Muslim Mosque or Dargah under the Protectio of the Mughal Rulers for their spiritual development.

This is why they accepted ISLAM ?

Islam gave Hindustan culture, architecture, language, military, advanced politics and economic progress .

where as the ch@ddi culture only produced snake charming, devdasi exploitation, satti and other such despicable acts of human suffering!
Name ONE monument that comes from them that gives any cultural importance from those people ?

Similarly, scripts and usage of Language depends on how the local cultures adapted to Islam :)

Turkish was written in the Arabic script up until the Ottoman Empire days , now they are on a fast tragectory to flip it back again.

Most of the Muslim world including arabs, Pakistanis, persians, older turks, north africans and MUSLIMS worldwide use either Arabic or arabic script in their everyday works?

Candidly speaking Hindus are still independent people , those Hindus who got scared and converted to the religion of Invaders became permanent slaves like Persians and are nowaday living in Pakistan

Look at brave Bangladeshi , Indonesian and Malaysian Muslims they are still proud of their culture and language they do not use Arabic script nor they became Arabic slaves .Even Turks have left Arabic script but we Pakistanis are big timed fucked up by Turkish invaders lost our culture our languages our identity , our pride . We are really fucked up Beef , and fucked up people like us can only produce people like Beef.Bhaijan ?
 
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Beef.Bhaijan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Which invaders ??
If you are referring to Zaheer-uddin Babar then he was INVITED by the Hindu Raja Sangha to militarily defeat a Born and Bred Hindustani Muslim King - Ibrahim Lodhi ?

So buddy when you invite someone to your house to come and attack one of your own then its called TREASON not Invasion - understand !??

This example shows what kind of mindset that Raja Sangha ch@ddi had and he honestly deserved what he got !


Candidly speaking Hindus are still independent people , those Hindus who got scared and converted to the religion of Invaders became permanent slaves like Persians and are nowaday living in Pakistan

Look at brave Bangladeshi , Indonesian and Malaysian Muslims they are still proud of their culture and language they do not use Arabic script nor they became Arabic slaves .Even Turks have left Arabic script but we Pakistanis are big timed fucked up by Turkish invaders lost our culture our languages our identity , our pride . We are really fucked up Beef , and fucked up people like us can only produce people like Beef.Bhaijan ?
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Who said Persian was NOT the official language of the Mughal Empire ??

How many cow-dung patties have you had for breakfast today ??
Hindus never had one language as their is no one hindu. Hindu means from the land of the sindh river . Hinduism doesnt have one diety, its not one people, and it certainly does not have one book either.

British had nothing to do with URDU which was developed as a military language to get the Muslim and HIndu subjects to understand each other.

Britain is known to spread ENGLISH which was to confuse the local population which is why you are so confused today ?

The reason you want to discredit Urdu and Hindi is because it destroys the RSS narrative of Extreme Cultural accomodation by the Muslim Mughals, THAT is the real reason , jealousy and nothing else. so be it.

Here is an excerpt from the BBC Historical Alamniac talking about who created URDU ?

Since you are bed-fellows with them maybe you will understand the language of your masters ...here read :

Introduction

The Mughal Empire
The Taj Mahal houses the jewelled tomb of Mumtaz Mahal, much loved wife of emperor Shah Jehan ©
The Mughal (or Mogul) Empire ruled most of India and Pakistan in the 16th and 17th centuries.

It consolidated Islam in South Asia, and spread Muslim (and particularly Persian) arts and culture as well as the faith.

The Mughals were Muslims who ruled a country with a large Hindu majority. However for much of their empire they allowed Hindus to reach senior government or military positions.

The Mughals brought many changes to India:

  • Centralised government that brought together many smaller kingdoms
  • Delegated government with respect for human rights
  • Persian art and culture
  • Persian language mixed with Arabic and Hindi to create Urdu
  • Periods of great religious tolerance
  • A style of architecture (e.g. the Taj Mahal)
  • A system of education that took account of pupils' needs and culture

Go cook some fake history elsewhere....the educated world knows where to give credit !

You saying British invaded Indo Pak that was great time of harmony ... Brithish introduced their art , culture and language . Present day languages of Pakistan came into existence after Mixing English with Hindi ? Remember there are more words of English in the languages of Pakistan than Persian and Arabic ? You are fucked up Beef!

Now show us any example that give any proof that under Mugal Empire , Urdu ever existed to begin with?

For your kind information Persian is not a Muslim culture and language. It is a culture of Fire worshiper Parsis who were the cousins of Hindus and who were protected and given refugee by Indo Pak people after Arab invasion of Iran.

India always had two cultures North Indian and South Indian . North Indian language like Hindi, Punjabi, Sindhi , Gujrati , Marathi , Orya , Bengali, Asami ,Sir lankan and Nepali all are one language basically only small differences between them because of geographic differences and all cultures have these differences even such differences exists in Chinese . A Punjabi can easily understand Sindhi because people are same and all words are same just the difference of pronunciation. Same situation in South India , the language is same only differences of pronunciation and geography hence Tamil , Kanada , Malaylum , Teligu languages but all are same basically !
 
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Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Which Hindus ?

You mean the people of 550 independant states who were too busy fighting amongst each other for 5000 years ?????

The Hindus who call their country Bharat and still all of them live in one country while Muslims have number of countries killing each others on the basis of language and sects . Proves beyond doubt Hindu is a nation while Muslims are not one nation?????
 

Beef.Bhaijan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Hindus live in one country ??..really ??...dude seriously cut down on that cow-piss dossage its affecting your brains.

Hindus live in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri lanka, Malaysia, Indonesia etc....and Including INdia.

And the Irony is Indian Hindus dont have good relations with ANY neighbouring countries including Nepal which is a HIndu country and is allied with China ? ? ?

In india itself there are 42 independance movements where lower caste hindus, khalistani sikhs , maoists and other hindu minorities are fighting for independance AFTER Pakistan and Bangladesh left India for good ???

what is left of hindustan is a Toiletless Rape capital which is hardly anyting to be proud off !...

Compare this to the Mughal Era where Hindustan was 25% of the world GDP, had a highly educated populace, great culture, great languages and was a world Military power NOT dependant on anyone ?

Stop being Jealous of Muslim achievements and work to become someone.

The Hindus who call their country Bharat and still all of them live in one country while Muslims have number of countries killing each others on the basis of language and sects . Proves beyond doubt Hindu is a nation while Muslims are not one nation?????
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Hindus live in one country ??..really ??...dude seriously cut down on that cow-piss dossage its affecting your brains.

Hindus live in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri lanka, Malaysia, Indonesia etc....and Including INdia.

And the Irony is Indian Hindus dont have good relations with ANY neighbouring countries including Nepal which is a HIndu country and is allied with China ? ? ?

In india itself there are 42 independance movements where lower caste hindus, khalistani sikhs , maoists and other hindu minorities are fighting for independance AFTER Pakistan and Bangladesh left India for good ???

what is left of hindustan is a Toiletless Rape capital which is hardly anyting to be proud off !...

Compare this to the Mughal Era where Hindustan was 25% of the world GDP, had a highly educated populace, great culture, great languages and was a world Military power NOT dependant on anyone ?

Stop being Jealous of Muslim achievements and work to become someone.

Go ask any Hindu they will tell you they are ancient Bharatis . Even if they live in Nepal , Bangladesh , Pakistan or Sir Lanka ? ? You are big time fucked up Beef ?
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Compare this to the Mughal Era where Hindustan was 25% of the world GDP, had a highly educated populace, great culture, great languages and was a world Military power NOT dependant on anyone ?

Wrong again under Mugal empire there was always civil war in India . Mugal vs Sikhs , Mugals vs Marathas , Mugals vs Jats , Mugals vs Stnamis , Mugals vs Rajputs

Great Pesian language of Mugals is no where seen in Sub continent now ???

Even no Mugal seen ... only fews wanna be Mugals like you ? ??

Anyway, looking at Popalzai it seems that Mongol hords have left some of their seeds behind to create conflict still lol
 

Beef.Bhaijan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Civil war ??...Is that how they made the largest Economy, an educated populace, major linguistic and cultural contributions ??? ? ? ?

No Ch@ddi in their right mind could challenge the power of the Mughal- They were too powerful for them.

I think your cow dung dosage is on a high again ....Why dont you atleast read some biased british history even they have the courage to recognise the GREATNESS of the Muslim Mughal Prowess ...Here read :

Mughal Empire

The Mughal Empire grew out of descendants of the Mongol Empire who were living in Turkestan in the 15th century. They had become Muslims and assimilated the culture of the Middle East, while keeping elements of their Far Eastern roots.

They also retained the great military skill and cunning of their Mongol ancestors, and were among the first Western military leaders to use guns.


Babur
Babur
Jewelled archway in Humayun's tumb in Delhi ©

Babur the first Mughal Emperor, was a descendent of Genghis Khan and Tamerlaine.

Babur succeeded his father as ruler of the state of Farghana in Turkestan when he was only 12, although he was swiftly deposed by older relatives.

Babur moved into Afghanistan in 1504, and then moved on to India, apparently at the invitation of some Indian princes who wanted to dispose of their ruler. Babur disposed of the ruler, and decided to take over himself.

He captured the Turkic Ghur'iat Sultanate of Delhi in 1526, imposing his rule on most of Northern India.

The Empire he founded was a sophisticated civilisation based on religious toleration. It was a mixture of Persian, Mongol and Indian culture.

Under Babur Hinduism was tolerated and new Hindu temples were built with his permission.

Trade with the rest of the Islamic world, especially Persia and through Persia to Europe, was encouraged.

The importance of slavery in the Empire diminished and peace was made with the Hindu kingdoms of Southern India.

Babur brought a broad-minded, confident Islam from central Asia. His first act after conquering Delhi was to forbid the killing of cows because that was offensive to Hindus.

Babur may have been descended from brutal conquerors, but he was not a barbarian bent on loot and plunder. Instead he had great ideas about civilisation, architecture and administration





Wrong again under Mugal empire there was always civil war in India . Mugal vs Sikhs , Mugals vs Marathas , Mugals vs Jats , Mugals vs Stnamis , Mugals vs Rajputs

Great Pesian language of Mugals is no where seen in Sub continent now ???

Even no Mugal seen ... only fews wanna be Mugals like you ? ??

Anyway, looking at Popalzai it seems that Mongol hords have left some of their seeds behind to create conflict still lol
 

Beef.Bhaijan

Minister (2k+ posts)
The problem with the ch@ddis is their perpetual jealousy which they have been nurturing looking at the success of Muslims. What they could not dream off, the Muslims achieved not only for themselves but also for all the castes of India.

This was a major threat to the otherwise brutal ch@ddi rule whose only intention was to shove their heads behind a cow and punish lower castes for going to a temple.??

Please let go of your historical jealousy and learn to work hard.

Wrong again under Mugal empire there was always civil war in India . Mugal vs Sikhs , Mugals vs Marathas , Mugals vs Jats , Mugals vs Stnamis , Mugals vs Rajputs

Great Pesian language of Mugals is no where seen in Sub continent now ???

Even no Mugal seen ... only fews wanna be Mugals like you ? ??

Anyway, looking at Popalzai it seems that Mongol hords have left some of their seeds behind to create conflict still lol
 

Beef.Bhaijan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Not Bharatis...they are citizens of Hindustan - the Muslim Country ???...who wants to be associated with a Toiletless Rape capital !

Go ask any Hindu they will tell you they are ancient Bharatis . Even if they live in Nepal , Bangladesh , Pakistan or Sir Lanka ? ? You are big time fucked up Beef ?
 

ram lal

Senator (1k+ posts)
Not Bharatis...they are citizens of Hindustan - the Muslim Country ???...who wants to be associated with a Toiletless Rape capital !

abe aaj bhikh mangne nahi gaya tu ? tera PM to kashkol le kar ghoom raha hai saudi arab me.............????

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