Imran Khan's False Hope and Expectations from Pakistani Talibans and Militants.!

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Kaley Angreiz of Pakistan

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اس سے بڑھ کر اور کیا سبوت ہو سکتا ہے ان نام نہاد مسلمانوں کی منافقت کا

یہ ہندوں اور یہود و نصاریٰ کے کارکن ہیں ، انہوں نے ان کو پیسے دے کر خرید لیا ہیں

اور جو لوگ ان کی ٹفداری کرتے ہیں ان کو شرم آنی چاہے

عمران خان بھی ٹریپ ہو گیا ہے جماعت اسلامی کے ہاتھوں

آج بھی پشاور میں ایک بس میں دھماکہ ہوا ہے ، اٹھارہ بے گنہ مر گے ہیں
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
A man kills your family member. What do you do? Hold his hand and talk to him about it?

That's the point. When someone kills your family member and he goes and hide in his family, then you don't go on killing the whole family but you go and talk to his family to hand him over to your. Such things happen in tribal areas all the time.
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Do you seriously think that this process will work? Government should have given last warning to Taliban to talk or face the result. Taliban are on winning side and killing people and soldiers on daily basis.

Pakistan Army is not aggressor here but trying to protect its land with their blood. First idiot khan ask army to pull out from all tribal areas then from swat and now he is demanding to open TTP central office from where they can take responsibility of killing in press conference.

Who will protect TTP office when they will bomb a shia mosque full of innocent people? you think people of Peshawar will not go and burn this sort of offices? Idiot Khan is running a public relation campaign for Taliban even though Taliban don't want this service. Taliban took responsibility of General killing but Idiot khan is is still saying that it is not Taliban but someone else killed General. How much Idiot Khan is going to defend these killers? There must be a limit for that.

If imran is idiot then the other leaders are either Idiot(to support the negotiation) or they are coward(who due to the fear of imran khan that he might come out as a successful figure if their operation failed). Now lets come to the issue of who did the killings. Every Taliban group have denied to have carried out the attacks except for the one in the news which the taliban have said they are not related to TTP. Pakistan was going fine until The APC was conducted and agreed upon negotiations. Had the agreed on operation then perhaps similar things would have happened but from Taliban themselves and not the few elements in Taliban an foreign agencies. You have to talk to the pro Pakistan taliban and the Tribal people. Take them into confidence and help eradicate the trouble makers from your homeland Pakistan.

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...ncies-involved-in-killing-of-Army-Maj-General
 

chandaa

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
اس سے بڑھ کر اور کیا سبوت ہو سکتا ہے ان نام نہاد مسلمانوں کی منافقت کا

یہ ہندوں اور یہود و نصاریٰ کے کارکن ہیں ، انہوں نے ان کو پیسے دے کر خرید لیا ہیں

اور جو لوگ ان کی ٹفداری کرتے ہیں ان کو شرم آنی چاہے

عمران خان بھی ٹریپ ہو گیا ہے جماعت اسلامی کے ہاتھوں

آج بھی پشاور میں ایک بس میں دھماکہ ہوا ہے ، اٹھارہ بے گنہ مر گے ہیں

Dude there are 30 Groups operating so far in Pakistan. Lots of groups are fighting to take revenge of dead in Drone Strikes and army operations. Some groups are fighting for survival(Al-Qaeda) and some are fighting for money(RAW and CIA funded). At present we have mixed them and they are acting with full force. Dialogues can separate these groups and identity those who don't want peace. Once we seperate these groups then it will be very easy to deal with them. Otherwise keep fighting this endless useless war which will last for decades are there are 1 million armed warriors in Tribal belt who are not supporting Pakistani army as they think the army is acting for AMERICA(and that is a fact that army gets funding in form of coalition support fund)
 

Pak1stani

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
کیا پاکستانی حکومت اور آرمی طالبان کو پچھلے دس سال تک گلاب جامن کھلا رہئی تھی
(omg)(omg)(omg)


Do you seriously think that this process will work? Government should have given last warning to Taliban to talk or face the result. Taliban are on winning side and killing people and soldiers on daily basis.

Pakistan Army is not aggressor here but trying to protect its land with their blood. First idiot khan ask army to pull out from all tribal areas then from swat and now he is demanding to open TTP central office from where they can take responsibility of killing in press conference.

Who will protect TTP office when they will bomb a shia mosque full of innocent people? you think people of Peshawar will not go and burn this sort of offices? Idiot Khan is running a public relation campaign for Taliban even though Taliban don't want this service. Taliban took responsibility of General killing but Idiot khan is is still saying that it is not Taliban but someone else killed General. How much Idiot Khan is going to defend these killers? There must be a limit for that.
 

lurker

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
TTP is a Khawarij Organization (bigsmile)
Again. Self proclaimed declarations are childish pursuits. TTP is Khawarij. All the leaders under the non-secular constitution are secular. The ottomans never harmed a hair on their brothers and sisters. The khalifats were infallible, even though they all fell. Lurker is an Indian. Lurker is RAW, CIA, Mousad. Secularism is a deen. It is the Evil that God made when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. If I have a pait dard, its probably secularisms fault. Jinnah was all Islamic and was going to grow a beard but he just couldn't find the right color dye for the hair so he used to shave. We Islamics never made a single mistake in our 1400 year history. We are like Angels.

Grow a pair. God should start subtracting your Hasanahs for the representation you give Him. lol.

OK lurker, so how should we make sense out of this ?? (bigsmile)
Your Master the USA a secular country is negotiating with the Taliban and also paying Jizya in some provinces and One of the Pakistanis wants to talk so all of a sudden thats an issue ?? [hilar][hilar]
Can you even Look at us Patriots with a straight face ??

USA is not my master. I am not a resident or citizen of the United states. They can do whatever they desire, It is of no consequence. Unless ofcourse you all are negotiating with the Taliban because Secular US decided to do so? Say it ain't so? ;)


how many bombings did you have before 2003? and pls dont lump all kinds of voilence in same category... govt should go after the bombers but at the same time we should isolate the groups that want out...the other strategy presented by folks in media and may be you is BOOM BAAM BAAM... as always IK is showing you the way to isolate bad from worse but you don't want to listen do you...!!!

Do you remember how the Taliban came to power in Afghanistan in the mid to late 90s? They weren't giving the Northern Alliance bananas and sloppy kisses to gain ground. And when they came to power, how many nations recognized them? 3? How many of those 3 have pulled back from recognition? The bombings have been going on pre 2003. These cowards can't chase the Americans anymore so they flood into Pakistan across the Durrand line which they don't recognize. Imran Khan is an incompetent politician. I wasted my vote on him. He is going to sit down and talk to murderous thugs who have killed 40,000 Pakistanis in the name of Islam. If he can do that much for the TTP , Imran Khan should be hugging and kissing MQM guys too.

The church was blown up by Blackwater operatives ....apparently backed by several SECULAR COUNTRIES :lol: ...Just like the ones that used the nuke on Hiroshima (bigsmile)
And your talking morality to US ?? [hilar]

Hahah you know you remind of the old Iraqi Information minister

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modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Lurker, these childhood rantings are of no use to this conversation ...so get to the point. The TTP are khawarij as they are attacking Pakistan and killing Muslims and NOn Muslims alike ! Several scholars back this assertion as well. We are not making up "secularism" and imposing on an Islamic Quaid like you seculars try to do BUT fail miserably [hilar][hilar]

You need to answer these questions about Seculars ??

- Did the seculars not nuke hiroshima and nagasaki ??

- Have they not caused world wars ??

- Arent they responsible for removing the gold standard resulting in massive economic collapses due to the fiat currency system in place ??

- Their capitalism based economic model has led to major countries facing economic hardship due to inflation and unemployment.

Can you tell me why should such a sick system be tolerated !!!....The Islamic Khalifah's have never done any of this, and hence they are better (bigsmile)

THE US is your master since you crave living in that country ...come on now, like secularism dont become a hypocrite with this as well :lol:

Again. Self proclaimed declarations are childish pursuits. TTP is Khawarij. All the leaders under the non-secular constitution are secular. The ottomans never harmed a hair on their brothers and sisters. The khalifats were infallible, even though they all fell. Lurker is an Indian. Lurker is RAW, CIA, Mousad. Secularism is a deen. It is the Evil that God made when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. If I have a pait dard, its probably secularisms fault. Jinnah was all Islamic and was going to grow a beard but he just couldn't find the right color dye for the hair so he used to shave. We Islamics never made a single mistake in our 1400 year history. We are like Angels.

Grow a pair. God should start subtracting your Hasanahs for the representation you give Him. lol.



USA is not my master. I am not a resident or citizen of the United states. They can do whatever they desire, It is of no consequence. Unless ofcourse you all are negotiating with the Taliban because Secular US decided to do so? Say it ain't so? ;)




Do you remember how the Taliban came to power in Afghanistan in the mid to late 90s? They weren't giving the Northern Alliance bananas and sloppy kisses to gain ground. And when they came to power, how many nations recognized them? 3? How many of those 3 have pulled back from recognition? The bombings have been going on pre 2003. These cowards can't chase the Americans anymore so they flood into Pakistan across the Durrand line which they don't recognize. Imran Khan is an incompetent politician. I wasted my vote on him. He is going to sit down and talk to murderous thugs who have killed 40,000 Pakistanis in the name of Islam. If he can do that much for the TTP , Imran Khan should be hugging and kissing MQM guys too.



Hahah you know you remind of the old Iraqi Information minister
 
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Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Dude there are 30 Groups operating so far in Pakistan. Lots of groups are fighting to take revenge of dead in Drone Strikes and army operations. Some groups are fighting for survival(Al-Qaeda) and some are fighting for money(RAW and CIA funded). At present we have mixed them and they are acting with full force. Dialogues can separate these groups and identity those who don't want peace. Once we seperate these groups then it will be very easy to deal with them. Otherwise keep fighting this endless useless war which will last for decades are there are 1 million armed warriors in Tribal belt who are not supporting Pakistani army as they think the army is acting for AMERICA(and that is a fact that army gets funding in form of coalition support fund)

ڈڈو ، پھر تم تیس دفتر کھولو اور ہر ایک کی داد رسی کرو

جاہلوں کے لئے سکول کھولے جاتے ہیں ، ان کے دفتر نہی
 

lurker

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Can you tell me why should such a sick system be tolerated !!!....The Islamic Khalifah's have never done any of this, and hence they are better (bigsmile)
The Islamic Khalifat system FELL to Secularism. This is why its NOT better.