I think those who beat Junaid Jahmshed are Ghustaakh, I should beat them. - Hamza Ali Abbasi

[Geek]

Challo aao hum sub Ghustaakh Ghustaakh kheltay hain. Kuch logon ke liye Junaid Jamshed Ghustaakh...they beat him...i think those who beat JJ are Ghustaakh...i should beat them..maybe you think i am a Ghustaakh for thinking those men are Ghustaakh who think JJ is a Ghustaakh and you should kill or beat me.

Shias should kill all Sunnis for being Ghustaakh for not believing in Imamat of Ahl e Bayt and Sunnis should kill all the Shias for being Ghustaakh for believing Sahaba didnt recognize Imamat of Ahl e Bayt.

Those who are left can kill the rest of the world for being Ghustakh for not believing Prophet Muhammad (SAW) as a Prophet. Lets all kill eachother. Na koi zinda rahay ga aur na Ghustakhi ho gi. What do you say? Source

 

[Liberal 000]

Sometimes I wonder
How can prophet (PBUH) be offended when He is not alive ?

I wonder
Why People have a belief, Prophet (PBUH) is all hearing and all seeing?

Wondering
Who is most high, all hearing all seeing ?

Wondering as I wandering
What is called shirk ?



Sometimes I wonder
Why there is no law of God's blasphemy ?

I wonder
How can Prophet (PBUH) be above God?

Wondering
Why God treats believers and non beleivers alike if He gets offended ?

Wondering as I wandering
What is called shirk?



Sometimes I wonder
What is called Tooba ka Darwaza to last breath?

I wonder
How can someone close this door for someone else ?

Wondering
How man become God?

Wondering as I wandering
What is called shirk ?

 

[devoid feast]

Insaan ki jaan Allah ki den hain aur usay chennay ka haq sirf usi k pass hai.

"There's no compulsion in religion."
Chap:Surah Al-Baqarah
Verse:256

 

[Hunain Khalid]

پاکستان میں سیاسی اجارہ داری سے زیادہ مضبوط تو مذہبی اجارہ داری ہے_ عمران خان نے ملک کی کرپٹ جماعتوں کے خلاف آواز اٹھائی تھی تو اس کی ذاتی زندگی پر حملے کیے گئے تھے لیکن مذہبی انتہا پسند تو سیدھا گولی اور ڈنڈہ سے بات کرتے ہیں_


اگر اس ملک میں مخالف رائے رکھنے کی سزا یہ ہو گئی ہے تو ہم سب کا اب خدا ہی حافظ ہے_



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[The-Winner]

Isn't this what the thread starter had posted when Salman Taseer was assassinated ?

 

[دوسرا_سوال]

Sometimes I wonder
How can prophet (PBUH) be offended when He is not alive ?

I wonder
Why People have a belief, Prophet (PBUH) is all hearing and all seeing?

Wondering
Who is most high, all hearing all seeing ?

Wondering as I wandering
What is called shirk ?



Sometimes I wonder
Why there is no law of God's blasphemy ?

I wonder
How can Prophet (PBUH) be above God?

Wondering
Why God treats believers and non beleivers alike if He gets offended ?

Wondering as I wandering
What is called shirk?



Sometimes I wonder
What is called Tooba ka Darwaza to last breath?

I wonder
How can someone close this door for someone else ?

Wondering
How man become God?

Wondering as I wandering
What is called shirk ?

Okay, so from your poem, you seem to be from the sect that doesn't regard Prophet PBUH at a level the other sect does, that's why your down playing His (PBUH) importance.


It's okay, you've just shown that you're from another sect, and that's my point, that no poem or justifications for or against JJ will cure the sectarianism. It exists and it will exist as long as religion is used as a tool to rule over people.

 

[دوسرا_سوال]

Isn't this what the thread starter had posted when Salman Taseer was assassinated ?

You are literally keeping track of people's comments from 5 years ago?

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[The-Winner]

You are literally keeping track of people's comments from 5 years ago?

(clap) (clap) (clap)

No just accidentally bumped into that thread after Mumtaz Qadri's hanging.

 

[Geek]

Isn't this what the thread starter had posted when Salman Taseer was assassinated ?

So? No doubt Mumtaz Qadri was absolutely wrong but I still don't think Sulman Taseer a "Shaheed".

 

[Liberal 000]

Okay, so from your poem, you seem to be from the sect that doesn't regard Prophet PBUH at a level the other sect does, that's why your down playing His (PBUH) importance.


It's okay, you've just shown that you're from another sect, and that's my point, that no poem or justifications for or against JJ will cure the sectarianism. It exists and it will exist as long as religion is used as a tool to rule over people.

I do not believe in any sect , I am just a normal Muslim and for me blasphemy law is against the basic principles of Islam.

 

[دوسرا_سوال]

I do not believe in any sect , I am just a normal Muslim and for me blasphemy law is against the basic principles of Islam.

Careful man, why are you having a death wish? Also, there're easier ways to go if you really wanna die, like sleeping pills and such and not roasted with bullets in the middle of the street, but please man, value your life and don't say such things in public.

 

[zaheer_meo]

having seen both the "maslaks" closely,i can tell that the attackers are brain washed..they have zero knowledge about tablighi jamaat..please go and do research before doing such acts..

 

[behzadji]

Sometimes I wonder
How can prophet (PBUH) be offended when He is not alive ?

I wonder
Why People have a belief, Prophet (PBUH) is all hearing and all seeing?

Wondering
Who is most high, all hearing all seeing ?

Wondering as I wandering
What is called shirk ?



Sometimes I wonder
Why there is no law of God's blasphemy ?

I wonder
How can Prophet (PBUH) be above God?

Wondering
Why God treats believers and non beleivers alike if He gets offended ?

Wondering as I wandering
What is called shirk?



Sometimes I wonder
What is called Tooba ka Darwaza to last breath?

I wonder
How can someone close this door for someone else ?

Wondering
How man become God?

Wondering as I wandering
What is called shirk ?

If you are wondering that much, then would you please share with us if you have asked this question to someone who is knowledgeable and can answer your questions?

or just want to have a catharsis of your inner steam and spreading it on this forum to the forum users some of whom might not have an atom of knowledge except the sheikh Google or maulana Facebook sb..... 'And ask the knowers, if you know not'

 

[Liberal 000]

If you are wondering that much, then would you please share with us if you have asked this question to someone who is knowledgeable and can answer your questions?

or just want to have a catharsis of your inner steam and spreading it on this forum to the forum users some of whom might not have an atom of knowledge except the sheikh Google or maulana Facebook sb..... 'And ask the knowers, if you know not'

To whom should I ask?
Who has the copyright of Islam?

 

[I Love Muhammad (PBUH)]

Sometimes I wonder
How can prophet (PBUH) be offended when He is not alive ?

I wonder
Why People have a belief, Prophet (PBUH) is all hearing and all seeing?

Wondering
Who is most high, all hearing all seeing ?

Wondering as I wandering
What is called shirk ?



Sometimes I wonder
Why there is no law of God's blasphemy ?

I wonder
How can Prophet (PBUH) be above God?

Wondering
Why God treats believers and non beleivers alike if He gets offended ?

Wondering as I wandering
What is called shirk?



Sometimes I wonder
What is called Tooba ka Darwaza to last breath?

I wonder
How can someone close this door for someone else ?

Wondering
How man become God?

Wondering as I wandering
What is called shirk ?

Dear, Answer to all your questions lies in Quran e Pak. Allah has Instructed us to follow quran and Sunnah for every question. Unfortunately in pakistan molvis are trying to become god before even becoming a human being .

 

[jaypakistan]

Finally , I have realized that why our govts don't spend money on Education and why our religious groups are against education.

 

[behzadji]

To whom should I ask?
Who has the copyright of Islam?

All your questions can be answered but you will first need to confirm what are your beliefs and what basis would be acceptable for you. e.g Presenting Quran as an evidence for someone who is Christian and does not believe in Quran would be regarded as useless as he does not even believe in Quran then how could he be satisfied with an evidence from Quran? Once you share your set of beliefs and basis, then i would be able to seek answers to your questions.

 

[Liberal 000]

All your questions can be answered but you will first need to confirm what are your beliefs and what basis would be acceptable for you. e.g Presenting Quran as an evidence for someone who is Christian and does not believe in Quran would be regarded as useless as he does not even believe in Quran then how could he be satisfied with an evidence from Quran? Once you share your set of beliefs and basis, then i would be able to seek answers to your questions.

Lol now I am Christian(clap)

Come on if you have any arguments plz put forward , you can give arguments from Quran and Hadiths if you like

 

[behzadji]

Lol now I am Christian(clap)

Come on if you have any arguments plz put forward , you can give arguments from Quran and Hadiths if you like

I did not say that you are Christian. i just gave an example of evidence basis....


How can prophet (PBUH) be offended when He is not alive ?

I wonder
Why People have a belief, Prophet (PBUH) is all hearing and all seeing?

Narated By AbuHurayrah: The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said: If any one of you greets me, Allah returns my soul to me and I respond to the greeting. [Abu Dawud Book 004, Hadith Number 2036:]

Imam Jalal ud-din Suyuti (rah) said: The word "radda" means `ala al-dawam," i.e. permanently, and not temporarily: in other words, Allah does not return the Ruh and take it back, then return it again and then take it back again, but He returned it to the Prophet permanently, and the Prophet is alive permanently. [Al-Hawi lil Fatawi, Vol.2, Page No.271-272]
Imam al-Nawawi (rah) says of this hadith :

رَوَاهُ أبُو دَاوُدَ بإسناد صحيح

Translation: It is narrated by Abu Dawud with a “SAHIH CHAIN” [Riyadh us Saliheen 1/255, Hadith # 1402]



Allah, ta^ala, said in the Qur’an:

إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَصَدُّوا عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ ثُمَّ مَاتُوا وَهُمْ كُفَّارٌ فَلَن يَغْفِرَ اللَّهُ لَهُمْ​

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Innal-ladhina kafaru wa saddu ^an sabilillahi thumma matu wa hum kuffarun falay-yaghfirallahu lahum.​

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Ayah 34 of Surah Muhammad means: {Those who blaspheme and prevent others from embracing Islam, then die as blasphemers, will not be forgiven by Allah.**
Blasphemy is the opposite of belief, just as darkness is the opposite of light. It is of three types: likening God to the creation (tashbih), contradicting (takdhib), and denying (ta^til).
Tashbih: Likening Allah to His creation. An example is to say or believe that Allah has legs.
Takdhib: Contradicting the honorable Qu’ran or what was undoubtedly related from the Prophet and known by every Muslim scholar, like negating the resurrection of the bodies and souls, or negating the obligation of prayer, fasting, or Zakah.
Ta^til: Negating or denying the existence of Allah. This type is the most blasphemous. Likewise is denying any of Allah’s Thirteen Attributes.
Blasphemers are of two types. One is the original blasphemer. The other one is the apostate (murtadd).
The original blasphemer is the one who was born to two blasphemous parents and reached pubescence on a blasphemous belief.
The apostate (murtadd) is the person who was Muslim, then committed one of the types of blasphemy (riddah).
Allah, ta^ala, said in the Qur’an:

وَلَئِن سَأَلْتَهُمْ لَيَقُولُنَّ إِنَّمَا كُنَّا نَخُوضُ وَنَلْعَبُ قُلْ أَبِاللّهِ وَآيَاتِهِ وَرَسُولِهِ كُنتُمْ تَسْتَهْزِؤُونَ​

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لاَ تَعْتَذِرُواْ قَدْ كَفَرْتُم​

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Qul abillahi wa ayatihi wa rasulihi kuntum tastahzi’un. La ta^tadhiru qad kafartum ba^da imanikum.
Ayahs 65-66 of Suratut-Tawbah mean: {O Muhammad, say: Do you mock Allah, His verses, and His Messenger? Do not offer excuses. Now you are judged as blasphemers, after you were judged as Muslims.**
Apostasy (Riddah) is leaving Islam. It is the most abhorrent type of blasphemy. Hence, it is obligatory on every Muslim to preserve his Islam and protect it from apostasy (riddah), which invalidates his Islam. May Allah protect us from it.
The categories of blasphemy: The scholars classified blasphemy into three categories: blasphemy of belief, blasphemy of action, and blasphemy of saying.
Each category of these categories is divided into many subdivisions:
Examples of the blasphemy of belief include:

• Denying the existence of Allah.
• Believing that Allah does not have the Power to do something.
• Believing Allah is ignorant.
• Believing that Allah is a body, light, or a soul.
• Believing that drinking alcohol or stealing is permissible.
• Believing that Allah did not obligate the five prayers, fasting the month of Ramadan, paying Zakah, or making Hajj.

Examples of the blasphemy of action include:

• To throw the Qur’an or other Islamic papers purposely in the trash.
• To prostrate to an idol, or the sun, or to any other creation with the intention of worshipping it.
• To write ayahs of the Qur’an in urine.

Examples of the blasphemy of saying include:

• Cursing Allah, His prophets, angels, Islam, or the Qur’an.
• Mocking the prayer or fasting.

The Messenger of Allah, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, said:

إِنَّ الْعَبْدَ لَيَتَكَلَّمُ بِالْكَلِمَةِ لاَ يَرَى بِهَا بَأْساً يَهْوِي بِهَا فِي النَّارِ سَبْعِينَ خَرِيفًا​

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Innal-^abda layatakallamu bil-kalimati la yara biha ba’say yahwi biha finnari sab^ina kharifa.​

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Which means: “A slave may utter a word that he deems harmless that may result in his falling the depth of seventy years into Hellfire.” (Related by at-Tirmidhiyy.)
Falling the distance of seventy years means falling to the deepest bottom of Hellfire, which is reserved for the blasphemers. This hadith is a proof that it is not a condition for falling into blasphemy that one knows the judgment, or feels happy with, or believes in the uttered words.
The Messenger of Allah, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, said:

أَكْثَرُ خَطَايَا ابْنِ ءَادَمَ مِنْ لِسَانِهِ​

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Aktharu khataya bni Adama mil-lisanih.​

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Which means: “Most of one’s sins are from one’s tongue.” (Related by at-Tabaraniyy.)
The Rule: Any belief, action, or saying which belittles Allah, His Books, His Messengers, His Angels, His Rites, the well-known practices of His Religion, His Rules, His Promise, or His Threat is blasphemy. So, one must use caution with one’s utmost effort to avoid blasphemy at all times.
Benefit: The scholars said: Denying what is commonly known among the Muslims to be a part of the Religion is blasphemy. For something to be commonly known to be part of the Religion means that it is a matter that is known by all Muslims, both the laypeople and the scholars alike. In other words, it is not something known only by scholars. This is like the obligation of the five prayers, fasting Ramadan, the permissibility of buying and selling, and the unlawfulness of drinking alcohol and stealing.

 

[dawasherpa]

Isn't this what the thread starter had posted when Salman Taseer was assassinated ?

ha ha ha .......................he is in house liberal for muslims only . not liberal for masihis .hipocrisy at will