History lesson to Coward Nawaz Sharif: How Musharraf did dealings with Indian Prime Minister

[fannekhan]

مشرف نے انڈیا کے سامنے پتلوں اتار دی تھی اب اگر پٹواری چڈی اتار رہے ہیں تو کیا ہوا،
لوگ ویسے ہی پٹواریوں کو طعنے دے رہے ہیں

this is not a case of pant or chaddi of a single person.
when you are responsible for the whole nation , you can not think and speak and behave like zaid hamid lal topi wala and hamid gul ww3 wala , you are responsible for the lives of 150 crore human beings .

 

[fannekhan]

You are right about him but this is not complete story he was taken hostage from his father, later Shah Alam II Played double game with him resulting in retaliatory attack which you are mentioning. I am mentioning the poem of Iqbal in which Rohela addressed to the Mughal haram regarding their behaviour when he ordered them to dance, anyway I appreciate your knowledge.

can you give me the link of that poem , thanks .

 

[Pak1stani]

Are only nawaz sharif and Musharraf are responsible or modi also responsible for liveslives of his 1.2 billion people.

this is not a case of pant or chaddi of a single person.
when you are responsible for the whole nation , you can not think and speak and behave like zaid hamid lal topi wala and hamid gul ww3 wala , you are responsible for the lives of 150 crore human beings .

 

[fannekhan]

Are only nawaz sharif and Musharraf are responsible or modi also responsible for liveslives of his 1.2 billion people.

both nawaj and modi are responsible let them settle it , but people on extreme are not letting them do it properly .

 

[cheetah]

On page 2 of this post Gorgias has already posted this poem you can see it. It is in Bang Daraa

can you give me the link of that poem , thanks .

 

[imtiazahmed]

Re: Chalaktay jam caption plz

١٠٠ سیٹ کا وعدہ مشرف نے کیا تھا - اپنی زبان سے پھر گیا - اسکی بیگم کا اس سے کچھ لینا دینا نہیں تھا

 

[gorgias]

you are supporting the person who damaged Kashmir cause more than any other politician, is that not boot licking?

Or may be you are doing it in hatred of Nawaz than in love of Mush.

[h=1]Differences delay Manmohan-Musharraf joint statement, now it is expected today[/h]Mon, 2005-04-18 05:00 admin

By M Rama Rao in New Delhi

New Delhi: 18 April (Asiantribune.com): The joint statement on the Manmohan Singh-Musharraf talks is said to have been delayed due to differences between the two sides on some issues to be mentioned. It is expected only on Monday.
The wording relating to a reference to the January 6, 2004 statement (issued during Atal Bihari Vajpayee's visit to Islamabad where in Pakistan leader had committed to end use of Pak territory for terrorism targetted at India) is said to be one area of differences. Another area relates to the phrasing of the confidence-building measures.
However, both sides have expressed optimism that the differences would be sorted out before Musharraf left for Manila on Monday morning.
Musharrafs foreign minister Kasuri pointedly told reporters to avoid speculation and wait for the joint statement to know the substance of talks. Media sensationalism has the potential of undermining good work and it happened once, he said in an obvious reference to the first visit of Musharraf for his Agra summit with Vajpayee in 2001. The summit failure was partly attributed to a section of the media, particularly English TV going in for a spin on the unfolding story.
Musharraf said on Sunday night at a dinner hosted by Pakistan High Commissioner Aziz Ahmed Khan that he was satisfied with the discussions with Dr Singh and their outcome.

http://www.asiantribune.com/news/20...sharraf-joint-statement-now-it-expected-today

http://www.dawn.com/news/1067768

جو حقیقت ہے وہ حقیقت ہے، اس سے نظریں چُرانے اور گالیاں دینےسے حقیقت نہیں بدلی۔ اور تم کہتے ہو کہ مشرف نے کشمیر کاز کو نقصان پہنچایا۔ میں کہتا ہوں اس نے پورے پاکستان کو نقصان پہنچایا۔دہشت گردی کا مسئلہ اسی کے دور میں اُٹھاْ امریکہ کے سامنے اس نے پاکستان کے مفادات بیچے، لیکن کون ہے جو اس کا احتساب کرے۔اور اب تو خیر سے نواز شریف کی حکومت ہے یہ حکوت کیوں اس پر مقدمہ نہیں چلاتی؟
اس نے نیب بنا کر تمام کرپٹ سیاست دانوں کو پلی بارگین کے نام پر ڈرائی کلین کیانواز نے اس کے خلاف کیا ایکشن لیا۔ وہ لے بھی نہیں سکتا کیوں کہ پلی بارگین کا سب سے زیادہ فائدہ ہی نواز شریف نے اُٹھایا۔

کسی سیاست دان کی اندھی محبت میں اتنا بھی نہیں ڈوبنا چاہیے کہ غلط کو غلط نہ کہہ سکو۔

 

[pkfighter]

Differences delay Manmohan-Musharraf joint statement, now it is expected today

Mon, 2005-04-18 05:00 — admin

By M Rama Rao in New Delhi

New Delhi: 18 April (Asiantribune.com): The joint statement on the Manmohan Singh-Musharraf talks is said to have been delayed due to differences between the two sides on some issues to be mentioned. It is expected only on Monday.
The wording relating to a reference to the January 6, 2004 statement (issued during Atal Bihari Vajpayee's visit to Islamabad where in Pakistan leader had committed to end use of Pak territory for terrorism targetted at India) is said to be one area of differences. Another area relates to the phrasing of the confidence-building measures.
However, both sides have expressed optimism that the differences would be sorted out before Musharraf left for Manila on Monday morning.
Musharraf’s foreign minister Kasuri pointedly told reporters to avoid speculation and wait for the joint statement to know the substance of talks. Media sensationalism has the potential of undermining good work and it happened once, he said in an obvious reference to the first visit of Musharraf for his Agra summit with Vajpayee in 2001. The summit failure was partly attributed to a section of the media, particularly English TV going in for a spin on the unfolding story.
Musharraf said on Sunday night at a dinner hosted by Pakistan High Commissioner Aziz Ahmed Khan that he was satisfied with the discussions with Dr Singh and their outcome.

http://www.asiantribune.com/news/20...sharraf-joint-statement-now-it-expected-today

http://www.dawn.com/news/1067768

جو حقیقت ہے وہ حقیقت ہے، اس سے نظریں چُرانے اور گالیاں دینےسے حقیقت نہیں بدلی۔ اور تم کہتے ہو کہ مشرف نے کشمیر کاز کو نقصان پہنچایا۔ میں کہتا ہوں اس نے پورے پاکستان کو نقصان پہنچایا۔دہشت گردی کا مسئلہ اسی کے دور میں اُٹھاْ امریکہ کے سامنے اس نے پاکستان کے مفادات بیچے، لیکن کون ہے جو اس کا احتساب کرے۔اور اب تو خیر سے نواز شریف کی حکومت ہے یہ حکوت کیوں اس پر مقدمہ نہیں چلاتی؟
اس نے نیب بنا کر تمام کرپٹ سیاست دانوں کو پلی بارگین کے نام پر ڈرائی کلین کیانواز نے اس کے خلاف کیا ایکشن لیا۔ وہ لے بھی نہیں سکتا کیوں کہ پلی بارگین کا سب سے زیادہ فائدہ ہی نواز شریف نے اُٹھایا۔

کسی سیاست دان کی اندھی محبت میں اتنا بھی نہیں ڈوبنا چاہیے کہ غلط کو غلط نہ کہہ سکو۔

Just to be clear I did not give you galli. I called you boot licker which is sarcastic term for someone who is toeing the line of army. I don't think that qualifies for galli
Anyway, I just want to clear that. Rest of the debate is not important for me. You seem to have made up you mind already.

ps: the other day Muqadas used the term yoouthia and some PTI supporter started abusing her that she gave galli to him. yoouthia is not galli. You guys really need to understand what qualifies for galli. So when someone is sarcastic or use some slang term you folks don't go about abusing them.

 

[gorgias]

Just to be clear I did not give you galli. I called you boot licker which is sarcastic term for someone who is toeing the line of army. I don't think that qualifies for galli
Anyway, I just want to clear that. Rest of the debate is not important for me. You seem to have made up you mind already.

ps: the other day Muqadas used the term yoouthia and some PTI supporter started abusing her that she gave galli to him. yoouthia is not galli. You guys really need to understand what qualifies for galli. So when someone is sarcastic or use some slang term you folks don't go about abusing them.

چلو بھئی ہو سکتا ہے آپ کی اصطلاح مین بوٹ لکر بہت معزز لفظ ہوگا۔ ہمارے مطابق تو ہر وہ لفظ جس میں کسی کی بے عزتی کا شائبہ ہو گالی ہی ہوتی ہے۔

 

[pkfighter]

چلو بھئی ہو سکتا ہے آپ کی اصطلاح مین بوٹ لکر بہت معزز لفظ ہوگا۔ ہمارے مطابق تو ہر وہ لفظ جس میں کسی کی بے عزتی کا شائبہ ہو گالی ہی ہوتی ہے۔

let me explain one more time, when I called you boot licker it was sarcastic remark on your political thought which (in my opinion) was toeing army line. It was not meant as gali and neither as personal insult. Anyway, I will try to avoid that in future.