PUNJABIMUNDANO1
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Do u guys agree with Abu Waleed?
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Hazrat Umer humiliated Christians to convert them to Islam, Muslims should do the Same....British Is
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With...sad.feelings...these type of Shiatan Mullahs..
please dont follow them....These Shiatan
Mullahs..should.be eliminated from Islam..immediately..
Islam..is the..most peaceful...and logical religious..in the
present wold..please..dont follow..these shiatan Mullahs...
please dont follow them....These Shiatan
Mullahs..should.be eliminated from Islam..immediately..
Islam..is the..most peaceful...and logical religious..in the
present wold..please..dont follow..these shiatan Mullahs...
Captain Safdar
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
what a bakwaas this guy is......typical BBCD ....and typical Khwarajee..... :angry_smile:
Tyrion Lannister
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
khoti k bche mulleh
Technocrat
MPA (400+ posts)
Disagree. This hadith is primarily related to one incident and it suggests pride of being a Muslim rather than a practice. This hadith has been taken out of context, very sad indeed.
PUNJABIMUNDANO1
Banned
Can u explain , How this Hadith was only about a Particular incident?
Technocrat
MPA (400+ posts)
According to the little knowledge I have about the context of this Hadith, Prophet Muhammed (SAW) was going to meet the jews/christians and He (SAW) had requested Sahabas' to not to greet but say "Wa'alaykum" if the non-Muslim greets them first. So primarily, these were instructions based on that visit.
PUNJABIMUNDANO1
Banned
What was that visit ....... will u like to explain about that visit from the Books of Hadiths or from early history books?
Waiting for your reply with substance not an arrow in the Air!
Technocrat
MPA (400+ posts)
Before I do that, do you agree with this video?
tashi_2233
Senator (1k+ posts)
Purpose :- Only To Defame Islam......Al e Yazeed
PUNJABIMUNDANO1
Banned
Yes I agree with this video!
Anyway I do not consider myself a faithful believer in Islam ... I have actually lost my belief, I am just a cultural Muslim!
Jami` at-Tirmidhi The Book on Military Expeditions
Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab:
That the Messenger of Allah (saws) said: "If I live - if Allah wills - I will expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula."
حَدَّثَنَا مُوسَى بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ الْكِنْدِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا زَيْدُ بْنُ الْحُبَابِ، أَخْبَرَنَا سُفْيَانُ الثَّوْرِيُّ، عَنْ أَبِي الزُّبَيْرِ، عَنْ جَابِرٍ، عَنْ عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " لَئِنْ عِشْتُ إِنْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ لأُخْرِجَنَّ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى مِنْ جَزِيرَةِ الْعَرَبِ " .
Sahih Muslim The Book of Jihad and Expedition (Kitab Al-Jihad wa'l-Siyar)
It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say:
I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.
وَحَدَّثَنِي زُهَيْرُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا الضَّحَّاكُ بْنُ مَخْلَدٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ جُرَيْجٍ، ح وَحَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ رَافِعٍ، - وَاللَّفْظُ لَهُ - حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، أَخْبَرَنَا ابْنُ جُرَيْجٍ، أَخْبَرَنِي أَبُو الزُّبَيْرِ، أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ جَابِرَ بْنَ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، يَقُولُ أَخْبَرَنِي عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ، أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ " لأُخْرِجَنَّ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى مِنْ جَزِيرَةِ الْعَرَبِ حَتَّى لاَ أَدَعَ إِلاَّ مُسْلِمًا " .
Bulugh al-Maram The Book on Jihad
’Umar (RAA) narrated, ‘I heard the Messenger of Allah (P.B.U.H.) say, “I will certainly expel the Jews and the Christians from theArabian Peninsula so as to leave only Muslims in it.” Reported by Muslim.
وَعَنْ عُمَرَ - رضى الله عنه - أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ رَسُولَ اَللَّهِ - صلى الله عليه وسلم -يَقُولُ: ** " لَأَخْرِجَنَّ اَلْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى مِنْ جَزِيرَةِ اَلْعَرَبِ, حَتَّى لَا أَدَعَ إِلَّا مُسْلِماً" ** رَوَاهُ مُسْلِمٌ. [SUP]1[/SUP] .
Jami` at-Tirmidhi The Book on Military Expeditions
Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah :
"Umar bin Al-Khattab informed me that he heard the Messenger of Allah (saws) say: 'I will expel the Jews and the Christians from theArabian Peninsula, and I will not leave anyone in it except a Muslim." [Abu 'Eisa said:] This Hadith is Hasan Sahih.
حَدَّثَنَا الْحَسَنُ بْنُ عَلِيٍّ الْخَلاَّلُ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَاصِمٍ، وَعَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، قَالاَ أَخْبَرَنَا ابْنُ جُرَيْجٍ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي أَبُو الزُّبَيْرِ، أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ جَابِرَ بْنَ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، يَقُولُ أَخْبَرَنِي عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ، أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ " لأُخْرِجَنَّ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى مِنْ جَزِيرَةِ الْعَرَبِ فَلاَ أَتْرُكُ فِيهَا إِلاَّ مُسْلِمًا " . قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيحٌ .
Phoenix11230
MPA (400+ posts)
The evil that is in the world almost always comes of ignorance and good intentions may do as much harm as malevolence if they lack understanding.
PUNJABIMUNDANO1
Banned
Tashi Bro ............ U need to open your eyes!
Islam is a big religion now , Such kind of things will never hurt Islam anymore!
The only thing we can do is that to criticize the things which are inhumane in any belief system
Hinduism is here , Sikhism came 1000 years after Islam is here and expanding , New religions are being established and all of them are succeeding in having converts, even Ahmdiya are successfully getting converts out of Muslims and Bahai's too...... we cannot destroy religions but yah we can reform People not to follow your religions blindly!
For me God is the creator of every thing is this universe , so we shall take care of everything, because God loves his every creation!
Technocrat
MPA (400+ posts)
The initial Hadith refers to visit to Bani Qurayza, who were at war with Muslims. Whereas, the pushing part refers to walking in the center of the road, which is both a matter of pride and a good strategy in case the enemy attacks. I believe you must agree with the notion of "pushing against the wall".
Furthermore, it is more evident that this was not a general rule rather a directive for a particular visit from the following Hadith from Ibn Bukhari itself:
http://sunnah.com/bukhari/75/24
he Prophet (ﷺ) rode a donkey having a saddle with a Fadakiyya velvet covering. He mounted me behind him and went to visit Sa`d bin 'Ubada, and that had been before the battle of Badr. The Prophet (ﷺ) proceeded till he passed by a gathering in which `Abdullah bin Ubai bin Salul was present, and that had been before `Abdullah embraced Islam. The gathering comprised of Muslims, polytheists, i.e., isolators and Jews. `Abdullah bin Rawaha was also present in that gathering. When dust raised by the donkey covered the gathering, `Abdullah bin Ubai covered his nose with his upper garment and said, "Do not trouble us with dust." The Prophet (ﷺ) greeted them, stopped and dismounted. Then he invited them to Allah (i.e., to embrace Islam) and recited to them some verses of the Holy Qur'an.
PUNJABIMUNDANO1
Banned
Banu Quraya were not at war with Muslims anytime in the history of Islam and especially before the battle of Badr
Banu Quraya were butchered after the battle of Trench
U need to find any other Hadith to fit the scene!
Go and listen Abu Waleed the Hadith he mentioned is about a street not about a gathering .... and the message of the hadith is exclusively about Christians and Jews not about the pagan of Medina
Anyway if u think the Hadith is about a special incident ... then u need to provide any evidence form Islamic Hadith Books or History that this Hadith is about a special incident
I again advise u please refrain from throwing arrows in Air!
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badmaash kantutta
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Khair Andesh
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
سب سے پہلے پروڈیوسرز کے بارے میں کچھ حقائق جس نے یہ ویڈیو ریلیز کی۔،۔
اور اب کچھ بات تھریڈ سٹارٹر کے متعلق بھی جن کا اگرچہ یہ کہنا ہے کہ وہ بس واجبی سے نام کے مسلمان ہیں،
پورا آرٹیکل پڑھنے کے لئے کلک کریں۔
اور اب کچھ بات تھریڈ سٹارٹر کے متعلق بھی جن کا اگرچہ یہ کہنا ہے کہ وہ بس واجبی سے نام کے مسلمان ہیں،
مگر درحقیقت ان کا تعلق ایک مخصوص طبقہ سے ہے ،وہ ایک کٹر فرقہ پرست ہیں، مزید جاننے کے لئے کلک کریں
PUNJABIMUNDANO1
Banned
Hahahaaaaaaaa!
Brother ....... Mullah Sahib is speaking in English and it is not a translation from Arabic to English by Mermri!
Anyway everyhting is from hadith books are form the History of Islam ........... How can u ignore all these fact?
As for as I am concerned , I have always been open about by beliefs on this forum!
I think u are running out of arguments!
Technocrat
MPA (400+ posts)
Be it street or a gathering, the following remains the same: The Prophet (ﷺ) greeted them, stopped and dismounted
Secondly, Banu Nadir had provoked Banu Qurayza to break the treaty, after which Prophet Muhammad (SAW) sent Saad bin Muadh and Saad bin Ubadah to confirm if the treaty was broken. Find better arguments.
