Great Work Khadim-e-Ala, Say NO To Foreign Aid...

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
Munafiq-e-Ala thinks World Bank aid doesnt count as 'foreign aid'? $750 million dollar loans taken in just 2 months (March-April 2012)


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It’s time to say ‘no’ to foreign aid: Shahbaz Sharif
http://tribune.com.pk/story/169730/no-to-foreign-aid-for-punjab-shahbaz-sharif/

$150 million loan:
http://dawn.com/2012/03/21/investing-on-dreams-punjab-eyes-projects-beyond-tenure/

$250 million loan:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/358298/another-top-heavy-irrigation-scheme/

$350 million loan:
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-3-100172-World-Bank-okays-$350m-education-sector-loan-for-Punjab

Ye Munafiqat to nahi hai :) @shiningstar @thepearl @PMLN97 @Joker @Mansif @universal007
 
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Councller (250+ posts)
There is a difference between loan and aid. You think all business people who are running big projects are taking aid?
 

jagga9

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ye pagal hair tranplant ki bijaye agar brain transplant kera leta to aaj punjab ki ye halat nahi hoti
 

jagga9

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Jee Nahi

There is a difference between Foreign Aid and IMF Loans.

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arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
There is a difference between loan and aid. You think all business people who are running big projects are taking aid?

World Bank se specific conditions pe loan lo ge to 'independence' kahan se aye gi? Wo tumharay rishtedaar hain jo baghair kisi terms aur conditions 750 million dollar ke loans de rahe hain?
 

Sedqal

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
World Bank se loans le ke us ki conditions pe nahi chalna parta? Ya wo Allah ke naam pe loan de deta hai, koi condition nahi lagatay?

Zara Wazahat ker saktay hein k kia difference hai?
Phir mein aap ko batata hun k kaisay ye same hai...

Foreign Aid is usually for execution of specific aims which the GIVING authority decides. For example empowerment of women might be the larger policy where aid can be given for building girl schools or women specific industry initiatives.
IMF/ World Bank/ ADP give loans on easy terms but the executing authority remains the Receiving party. IMF and pother banks get the power only when the receiver is unable to payback and is in a position to be exploited.
 

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
Foreign Aid is usually for execution of specific aims which the GIVING authority decides. For example empowerment of women might be the larger policy where aid can be given for building girl schools or women specific industry initiatives.
IMF/ World Bank/ ADP give loans on easy terms but the executing authority remains the Receiving party. IMF and pother banks get the power only when the receiver is unable to payback and is in a position to be exploited.

Doctors issue pe PMLN walay yehi ro rahe hain ke humaray pas paisay nahi, wasayel nahi, iss ka matlab ab World Bank se loans + dictation len ge aur 'No to foreign aid' ko Solid Waste Management ke dabbay mai phenken ge...
 

Sedqal

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Doctors issue pe PMLN walay yehi ro rahe hain ke humaray pas paisay nahi, wasayel nahi, iss ka matlab ab World Bank se loans + dictation len ge aur 'No to foreign aid' ko Solid Waste Management ke dabbay mai phenken ge...
Foreign Aid is not Equal to Loans. The basic premises of you post is faulty. If you want to criticize PMLN find some real issues, it shouldn't be that difficult.
 

anasyounus

Citizen
Please add to this another $70 Million dollors, which Punjab government has applied for as 'Additional financing' for the ongoing World Bank funded project of Land Record Computerisation
 

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
Foreign Aid is not Equal to Loans. The basic premises of you post is faulty. If you want to criticize PMLN find some real issues, it shouldn't be that difficult.

Your Showbaaz Sharif was saying NO to foreign aid on the principle that it makes you vulnerable to foreign dictation, and as you accepted that the borrowing party can be exploited by the bank if it fails to payback the loan, currently Punjab government officials accept they dont have much money so obviously they will take dictation from World Bank in exchange for 750 million dollars + put burden of interest on the public.
Sorry if my logic is too hard for you to understand because you just dont want to accept your leader's hypocrisy in this matter.
 

anasyounus

Citizen
Foreign Aid is not Equal to Loans. The basic premises of you post is faulty. If you want to criticize PMLN find some real issues, it shouldn't be that difficult.

All these listed are Loans, not some non-refundable Aid.. These are also listed in Budget document's "Foreign Debt" section with thier applicable interest rates as well
 

jagga9

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I mean just imagine, you got such a great feeling when you tell ppl in west that I am from the country of Imran Khan, the cricketer, social worker, chancellor of bradford uni, a lecturer, oxford graduate. IK can do anything worldwide if wants to.
never joined any political party but started his own struggle.

Now just imagine telling anyone Nawaz sharif or shehbaz sharif, roads builder lol, peeli taxi lol, graduate??? i don't know. .. IQ level??? let them judge it.... administrator??? dengue, ephedrine, drugs scandal, bridge collapse... ...
success story = call general zia your dad and general gillani your mentor and here you go .. success hi success

loans write off ... .. scams scams scams is what they are known for. ... hair transplants.
 

thepearl

Minister (2k+ posts)
پہلے یہ سمجنے کی ضرورت ہے کے بھیک اور قرض میں فرق ہے
دوسرا قرض جس مقصد کے لئے لیا گیا تھا پیسے اسی پر استعمال ہوےہیں
اگر کسی کے پاس شہباز شریف کی بدعنوانی ایک بی پروف ہے تو اور عدالت میں ثابت کرے
ہم آپ کے ساتھ ہوں گۓ
 

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
پہلے یہ سمجنے کی ضرورت ہے کے بھیک اور قرض میں فرق ہے
دوسرا قرض جس مقصد کے لئے لیا گیا تھا پیسے اسی پر استعمال ہوےہیں
اگر کسی کے پاس شہباز شریف کی بدعنوانی ایک بی پروف ہے تو اور عدالت میں ثابت کرے
ہم آپ کے ساتھ ہوں گۓ

Farq to sab ko pata hai, similarity samajhne ki zarurat hai... Kya aisa ho sakta hai ke 750 million dollars ap ko baghair kisi condition (dictation, interference) ke mil jayen? Phir to Pakistan ko chahiye World Bank se 1 trillion dollars ka loan le ke America ki ghulami chor de aur 'independent' state ban jaye...
 

thepearl

Minister (2k+ posts)
Farq to sab ko pata hai, similarity samajhne ki zarurat hai... Kya aisa ho sakta hai ke 750 million dollars ap ko baghair kisi condition (dictation, interference) ke mil jayen? Phir to Pakistan ko chahiye World Bank se 1 trillion dollars ka loan le ke America ki ghulami chor de aur 'independent' state ban jaye...

baat aap ki sahi hay, magar bhai central govt. support nahi kar rahi 12 karoor kay soobay ko chalana koi aasan baat nahi, kisi bi govt. ko funds na dain to do din main fail ho jaye gi. sab hamain patwarion ka tana detay they, kal hi SS ne bataya kay pichlay chaaar saal main us ne aik bi patwari barti nahi kia halankay MPA aur MNA'a ka bohot pressure tha. Land record k computerize karnay ka kam shuruh ho chuka hay.
 

anasyounus

Citizen
The Current Project of Land Record Computerisation was started in early 2007 with financing from WB, the project implementation completion date was dec'11 while the program closing date was March'12.
Till SC took the Case last year and pushed Provincial government for implementation of the project on priority, there was very little progress done. Till Now only 4-5 % of the implementation is done on a Project that was suppose to complete last year. Only 30-50% work is done in 4-5 districts of Punjab out of 36 Districts, and for this they have consumed 95% of the funding made available by WB.

NOW, Punjab Government has negotiated with WB to limit the Scope of the project from 36 districts to 18 districts and have also applied for additional financing of 70 Million dollors for the project.
 
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