German court orders Muslim girl to join swim class

khan0786

Senator (1k+ posts)
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13-year-old Frankfurt girl had argued swimming with male pupils breached her religious modesty.


BERLIN (AP) - A court in Germany has ruled that a Muslim girl cannot be excused from mixed-sex swimming lessons on the grounds of religious belief.

The 13-year-old girl from Frankfurt had argued that the sight of bare-chested male pupils breached her religious modesty. She also claimed that accepting the school s offer that she herself could wear a full-body "burkini" swimsuit in the pool would expose her to discrimination among her peers.

But Germany s Federal Administrative Court ruled Wednesday that it was reasonable to compromise between the girl s religious freedom and the state s duty to educate its citizens.

The dpa news agency reported that the unnamed girl s father said before the verdict that he would accept the ruling. About 5 percent of Germany s population of 80 million is Muslim.


http://dunyanews.tv/index.php/en/World/191821-German-court-orders-Muslim-girl-to-join-swim-class


 
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aazad.mubassir

Minister (2k+ posts)
She's just creating more fuss to get cheap publicity in the news but it's just giving bad repute to Islam. I saw men/boys with half chest open doing Tawaf-e-Kaba shoulder to shoulder with the women/girls!
 

hassanattique

MPA (400+ posts)
oo bhai neem hakeem. that order is being given by God to wear ehraam like that and it is also ordered not to do outside haram.

She's just creating more fuss to get cheap publicity in the news but it's just giving bad repute to Islam. I saw men/boys with half chest open doing Tawaf-e-Kaba shoulder to shoulder with the women/girls!
 

aazad.mubassir

Minister (2k+ posts)
Did you ever have a chance to go for (Ziarah) pilgrimage? People outside of Haram also roaming around in the same condition.

Can you share the order of NOT doing it outside haram! why Suadi govt is not strictly implementing it?
Also Allah SWT mentioned in Surah Noor that women have to lower their gaze (keeping eyes down) that is part of their modesty, with the exception in certain conditions not in your control you will not be held responsible.

oo bhai neem hakeem. that order is being given by God to wear ehraam like that and it is also ordered not to do outside haram.
 
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hassanattique

MPA (400+ posts)
By God will i have perfumed hajj twice. This is the sunnat of rasul Allah SAS during tuwaf to uncover there right shoulder.

Do not uncover your right shoulder until you reach the Ka'bah and begin Tawaf. This is the time that the Messenger uncovered his shoulder and it is an act of Hajj, so we must follow when the Prophet did it.


http://www.almasjid.com/content/islamic_dress_code
Did you ever have a chance to go for (Ziarah) pilgrimage? People outside of Haram also roaming around in the same condition.

Can you share the order of NOT doing it outside haram! why Suadi govt is not strictly implementing it?
Also Allah SWT mentioned in Surah Noor that women have to lower their gaze (keeping eyes down) that is part of their modesty, with the exception in certain conditions not in your control you will not be held responsible.
 

niazi

MPA (400+ posts)
did you ever have a chance to go for (ziarah) pilgrimage? People outside of haram also roaming around in the same condition.

Can you share the order of not doing it outside haram! Why suadi govt is not strictly implementing it?
Also allah swt mentioned in surah noor that women have to lower their gaze (keeping eyes down) that is part of their modesty, with the exception in certain conditions not in your control you will not be held responsible.
who are you to point finger on Allahs orders,if Allah make haraam eating and drinking in a condition called fasting,it make it halal when doing hajj a certain code of dress and we are here to accept it ,it is part of our emaan to accept what Allah has ordered.i salute that girl may Allah make her stead fast in her religion.
 

niazi

MPA (400+ posts)
Ladki ka nautanki drama hai!! If they can't swim, then they should be sent to pakistani madrassa;)

Shame on you,what about your notanki drama when you guys wear tuban in schools and offices,and hindu's doing notanki infront of their fake and funny gods.B4 pointing finger to muslims religious beliefs first see ur self.
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I don't see the harm in swimming with people of the same gender. Us Muslim's in the west must also learn to co-exist instead of making an issue out of everything. In this case however she has every right to reject swimming with men.
 

IndiaGuy

Senator (1k+ posts)
I don't see the harm in swimming with people of the same gender. Us Muslim's in the west must also learn to co-exist instead of making an issue out of everything. In this case however she has every right to reject swimming with men.
Why do you bring the religion it it? Swimming got nothing to do with any religion.
 
I don't see the harm in swimming with people of the same gender. Us Muslim's in the west must also learn to co-exist instead of making an issue out of everything. In this case however she has every right to reject swimming with men.

I have never seen men and women swimming at same time in a pool.

She might have had to see other boys during shift breaks
 

jiashahood

Voter (50+ posts)
I think that you people are just misinterpreting the whole story, there is nothing wrong in joining the swimming classes, in fact every person should know how to swim for safety purposes... she is just trying to get some attention, If she really wants to protect her modesty, then there are lots of different styles of swimming costumes available, who has asked her to wear biking and jump into the pool. I am sharing onw as an example:

http://www.dhgate.com/product/dhgat...S||c|OSLNBH|&gclid=CIeA087NyLkCFeZxQgodvjYAZA

while this line really made me laugh " the sight of bare-chested male pupils breached her religious modesty".... she is living in Germany, and talking about bare-chested men, tell her to come to Karachi during summers, I am sure she will find many shirt-less uncles watering their plants outside their homes :)
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why do you bring the religion it it? Swimming got nothing to do with any religion.

This thread is about a Muslim lady refusing to swim with men due to her faith. It is her not I that has bought religion to it! Islam does not allow women to go swimming with men especially in revealing costumes!