From Imam Farahi to Al Mawrid - Javed Ahmed Ghamidi

meezan

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
ہماری عمومی تربیت ایسی ہوئی ہے کہ ہم یہ سمجھتے ہیں کہ بس ہمارے پاس جو کچھ ہے وہی مستند اور درست ہے- صحیح رویّہ یہ ہے کہ جب اپنی غلطی کا احساس ہو ، اسے اچھی طرح تحقیق و جستجو کے بعد درست کر لیا جاے، اپنی رائے کو چھوڑنا اور درست کو اپنا لینا اور جو اس وقت درست رائے بنائی گئی اس آزمایش کیلیے بھی تیار رہنا کہ اس میں بھی غلطی نکل سکتی ہے۔ واضح رہے کہ اہل حق کی یہی سب سے بڑی آزمایش ہے۔
 

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Thanks for uploading, Excellent words but that wont stop xxxx from trolling...
 
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meezan

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
‎"نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے ...ایسی تمام چیزوں کے استعمال سے منع کیا ہے جن سے امارت کی نمایش ہوتی ہو یا وہ بڑائی مارنے، شیخی بگھارنے، دون کی لینے، دوسروں پر رعب جمانے یا اوباشوں کے طریقے پر دھونس دینے والوں کی وضع سے تعلق رکھتی ہوں۔ریشم پہننے، قیمتی کھالوں کے غلاف بنانے اور سونے چاندی کے برتنوں میں کھانے پینے سے آپ نے اِسی لیے روکا ہے۔ یہاں تک کہ چھوٹی ڈاڑھی اور بڑی بڑی مونچھیں رکھنے والوں کو بھی یہ متکبرانہ وضع ترک کر دینے کی نصیحت کی اور فرمایا ہے کہ وہ ڈاڑھی بڑھا لیں، لیکن مونچھیں ہر حال میں چھوٹی رکھیں۔"
[جاوید احمد غامدی "میزان" 'اخلاقیات' 235]
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
ہماری عمومی تربیت ایسی ہوئی ہے کہ ہم یہ سمجھتے ہیں کہ بس ہمارے پاس جو کچھ ہے وہی مستند اور درست ہے- صحیح رویّہ یہ ہے کہ جب اپنی غلطی کا احساس ہو ، اسے اچھی طرح تحقیق و جستجو کے بعد درست کر لیا جاے، اپنی رائے کو چھوڑنا اور درست کو اپنا لینا اور جو اس وقت درست رائے بنائی گئی اس آزمایش کیلیے بھی تیار رہنا کہ اس میں بھی غلطی نکل سکتی ہے۔ واضح رہے کہ اہل حق کی یہی سب سے بڑی آزمایش ہے۔

YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE WORTHLESS. Whe you go for treatment to a doctor first thing you look at is this Doctor qualified or not! If some tells you that the Doctor is ataee (I mean DUNGAR Doctor) who says you do not need any medcine books to treat someone all you need is good knowledge and rejects all medications as being useless decides to give the patient cow muttar for cure, then would you be willing to have the same doctor operate on your wife or your mother or your father??? Your relative is captured by police and is facing murder charges and you are looking for a good lawyer. Looking around you find there are many good lawyers who fought and won a lot of their cases but you decide one a lawyer who says who cares about what all other lawyers say. You must use your intelligence when approaching a case you do not need any book of law and goes to the judge with same argument??

My friend when you start believing a person who has never been to a madrassah, who has changed his names 4 or 5 times. Who negates everyone in the history of Islam as some one who had any knowledge. Who rejects hadith. Who knowledge Quran is so poor that even his Arabic grammar is questioned - then why on earth would someone in his sane mind pay any attention to this dungar???
 

meezan

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
How are you so sure 'he's never been in Madrasas? You are questioning his skills and Qualifications?
Your whole post presents 'mass of your ignorance.
 

Internet

Banned
Is this forum molvi.pk or siasat.pk ?

Farahi was honoured by his own cousin Shibli with the title of molvi so on what basis have you made him an Imam NAUZOBILLAH ?
 

electric

Councller (250+ posts)
@ Watan Dost. Thanks for Sharing this information.

Assalamo Alaikum
He was named kaku shah on birth
he named himself as shafiqu rehman while joining jamaat e islami
during his period in jamaate islami he changed his name to shafiq javed
and then to javed ahmed
later on he added the suffix GHAMDI to his name
he remained in mental hospital for a period of about six months
due to INKAR_E_HADITH
and now he has become a GREAT SCHOLAR
I disagree with him about 90% because he had a 30 years research of History not Islam
he tried to prove that at the RUKHSATI of Mother of Maumineen Ayesha Siddiqa TAyyiba Tahira's age was not 9 years but was over 17 years and he just assumed that no proof was given by him
Sahih Bukhari (age of Ayesha Siddiqa was 9 years at the time of RUKHSATI)
and it has been proved in these days that even an 8 year old girl can give birth to a child(Daily dawn, NAwaie-waqt: ref on demand)
he mostly says "jahan tak main samjhta hoon" means its his thinking, not Islam
he mostly quotes from history written by
ibne khuldoon
ibne is-haq
ibne hasham
tabri
etc., whom even an ordinary student of Islamic history can prove as wrong
because at one place they say a person died in 2 hijri, but at the time of khandaq they say he was alive,
there are many proves but unfortunately i dont have them with me right now, they can be delivered to anyone who wants to seek out the truth.
thanks
Jazakallah.
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
How are you so sure 'he's never been in Madrasas? You are questioning his skills and Qualifications?
Your whole post presents 'mass of your ignorance.

Well it is not just me. Look around you. Tell me why did kaku Shah change his name??? Isn't changing your nisbat a sin?? But who cares - Kaku Shah can refute anything. When he can refute Hadith mutawatir then what else is left??
 
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karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
@ Watan Dost. Thanks for Sharing this information.

Assalamo Alaikum
He was named kaku shah on birth
he named himself as shafiqu rehman while joining jamaat e islami
during his period in jamaate islami he changed his name to shafiq javed
and then to javed ahmed
later on he added the suffix GHAMDI to his name
he remained in mental hospital for a period of about six months
due to INKAR_E_HADITH
and now he has become a GREAT SCHOLAR

I disagree with him about 90% because he had a 30 years research of History not Islam
he tried to prove that at the RUKHSATI of Mother of Maumineen Ayesha Siddiqa TAyyiba Tahira's age was not 9 years but was over 17 years and he just assumed that no proof was given by him
Sahih Bukhari (age of Ayesha Siddiqa was 9 years at the time of RUKHSATI)
and it has been proved in these days that even an 8 year old girl can give birth to a child(Daily dawn, NAwaie-waqt: ref on demand)
he mostly says "jahan tak main samjhta hoon" means its his thinking, not Islam
he mostly quotes from history written by
ibne khuldoon
ibne is-haq
ibne hasham
tabri
etc., whom even an ordinary student of Islamic history can prove as wrong
because at one place they say a person died in 2 hijri, but at the time of khandaq they say he was alive,
there are many proves but unfortunately i dont have them with me right now, they can be delivered to anyone who wants to seek out the truth.
thanks
Jazakallah.

Writing such allegations against the greatest scholar that meezan has ever come accros (hmm)