False Messiah: Scientists Contend Recently Discovered God Particle Is An Impostor

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False Messiah: Scientists Contend Recently Discovered ‘God Particle’ Is An ‘Impostor’
Posted on July 10, 2012 at 4:21pm by
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Less than a week ago, the scientific community was celebrating the 99.9999 percent certain findings of a particle thought to be the Higgs boson. Scientists at the European Center for Nuclear Research (CERN) were cautious to step right out and say they officially found the subatomic particle with the nickname the “God particle,” stating the results were preliminary but hinting at it being the particle consistent with the theoretical one thought to help explain some fundamental questions of matter in our universe.

(Related: ‘Very, Very Preliminary Result’: CERN Scientists Tentatively ‘Find’ Infamous God Particle)

[HI]Now, a set of other scientists at the Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois reviewing data from the large hadron collider in Geneva are saying the particle physicists think could be the Higgs boson could actually be an impostor. [/HI]They write:
Assuming an unbroken custodial invariance as suggested by precision electroweak measurements, only four pos
sibilities are allowed if the scalar decays to pairs of gauge bosons, as exemplified by a dilaton/radion, a non-dilatonic electroweak singlet scalar, an electroweak doublet scalar, and electroweak triplet scalars. We show that current LHC data already strongly disfavor both the dilatonic and non-dilatonic singlet imposters. On the other hand, a generic Higgs doublet and a triplet imposter give equally good fits to the measured event rates of the newly observed scalar resonance, although a Standard Model Higgs boson gives a slightly better overall fit. [...] [HI]We emphasize that more precise measurements of the ratio of event rates in the WW over ZZ channels, as well as the event rates in bb and tau tau channels, are needed to distinguish the Higgs doublet from the triplet imposter.
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Gizmodo explains more on the “controlled enthusiasm” regarding the potential finding exhibited by CERN scientists — and much of the scientific community — and the Argonne researchers who have called up the possibility of an impostor:
The reason for his controlled optimism is the elusive nature of this particles. Since we can only create them for a very limited time before they decay into other particles, it’s very difficult to trace their signature. It’s even more difficult when, looking at the the data so far collected by CERN, the signature can be attributed to other particles.
[HI]This just further confirms that the actual presence of the Higgs boson cannot be unequivocally cited just yet.

[/HI](Related: Video Pop Quiz: Do Hipsters in Brooklyn Know What the God Particle Is? Their Answers Will Have You Laughing)

Read more from the Argonne scientists here.
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biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Need escape goat to prove that so much heavy investment made in that project & it went well.
BY THE WAY WHO INVESTED IN THAT PROJECT.. WHY??? WHAT WILL BE ITS USE??? WHATS THE BENEFIT??
Any sharing please...
Assalam-o-alaikum
Jaza-k-ALLAH
 

Dengue

MPA (400+ posts)
well even god particle is discovered .. it aint against any religious teaching except its name.. so y creating a fuss?
 

wmahmooood

Senator (1k+ posts)
I have heard that this particle is actually an agenty which gives mass to the objects. With further discoveries in this field they are now trying to explore it further so that they can change the matter into energy and distroy the existence of any object right from the beginning through this technology. If you can imagine, this is a very disasterous as well as revolutionary step.

Allah save us from this fitna because if the enemies of Islam get succeeded in this before muslims they will hurt muslims definitely.
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
I have heard that this particle is actually an agenty which gives mass to the objects. With further discoveries in this field they are now trying to explore it further so that they can change the matter into energy and distroy the existence of any object right from the beginning through this technology. If you can imagine, this is a very disasterous as well as revolutionary step.

Allah save us from this fitna because if the enemies of Islam get succeeded in this before muslims they will hurt muslims definitely.

Salam
Bro dont be afraid.. They have nuclear, hydrogen, atomic & many secret (yet to be revealed tech) bombs & weapons. Still u r alive (we r slave, but alive yes).. Yes we should ask ALLAH refuge from fitna either from outside or inside..
Remember.. WAMA KARO WAMA KARALLAH WALLAHO KHAIRUL MAKIREEN...
Jaza-k-ALLAH for your reply.
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Construction Cost:
According to CERN the total cost of the apparatus was 6.03B CHF (6.03 Billion Swiss Francs) which equates to $5.32 Billion. That is just for the construction of the tube and all the machines and data collectors.

Operating Cost:
According to CERN the operating costs for individual experiments (remember the LHC is just an apparatus) is borne almost entirely by the entity doing the experiment. CERN is always a contributor and contributes approximately 20%. I couldn't find a dollar amount or estimate for running cost...

I got these facts from a PDF located on CERN's website (below in sources)
[h=3]Source(s):[/h] http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1092437/fil…
2008
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Allah save us from this fitna because if the enemies of Islam get succeeded in this before muslims they will hurt muslims definitely.
The fitnah of "scientific illiteracy" is what is even more dangerous.

Those who have ZERO understanding or knowledge of particle physics and rely on cut-paste wikipedia articles should stop making fools of themselves.
 

zsheikh

MPA (400+ posts)
I don't fully understand this theory. what I understand that atom components like protons , electrons get mass from this so called god particle which itself has no mass. Is it right ? can anyone confirm?
 

Alias

MPA (400+ posts)
Yeah you are right. It's the particle which turned energy into mass.

I don't fully understand this theory. what I understand that atom components like protons , electrons get mass from this so called god particle which itself has no mass. Is it right ? can anyone confirm?
 
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A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
I have heard that this particle is actually an agenty which gives mass to the objects. With further discoveries in this field they are now trying to explore it further so that they can change the matter into energy and distroy the existence of any object right from the beginning through this technology. If you can imagine, this is a very disasterous as well as revolutionary step.

Allah save us from this fitna because if the enemies of Islam get succeeded in this before muslims they will hurt muslims definitely.

They have been working on antimatter for a long time and I have heard that they attained some success also.
 

zsheikh

MPA (400+ posts)
If so called god particle gives mass without energy where that energy comes from. it is against science kinetic theory and theory of relativity I guess. here the religion Islam comes, the energy given to atom is from Allah. All source of power comes from Allah. why these atheist scientist do not accept the God Allah. because they are dumb.
 

mirza40

Citizen
It is true that all powers belong to ALLAH Almighty and it is also truth that He wants to show His powers to all mankind and He gives them sense to explore the universe. But people go wrong side and think that they have invented anything by themselves and this is not truth.