Does current day Taliban = KHAWAARIJ, A step back into History.

hans

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HISTORY OF KHAWAARIJ

Al-Khawarij is plural for Kharij, meaning one who rebels against the acknowledged Muslim ruler whom Islam obliges every Muslim to obey and not rebel against.

This definition of Al- Khawarij, which is taken from Islamic terminology, has become a trademark for the twelve thousand Muslims who rebelled against Caliph Ali bin Abi Talib, may Allah be pleased with him, and this includes all the groups that followed their way of understanding the religion.

These groups have since been known as Al-Khawarij even though they carried different names.

Among those groups are: Al- Muhakkimah, Ash- Sharat, Al- Haroriyyah, An- Nawa-sib, and Al- Mariqhah.

Al-Khawarij are the people whom the Messenger of Allah, Salla Allahu Alayhi Wasallam, mentioned when he said, what translated means, A group will go astray during a time of division between Muslims. The closest among the adversaries to the Truth will kill them (the deviant group, Al-Khawarij).

Also, the Messenger of Allah, Salla Allahu Alayhi Wasallam, said regarding a man who once accused him of injustice, From among the offspring of this man there will rise a people who will read the Quran but it will not go beyond their throats (meaning it will not enter their hearts). They will kill Muslims and spare Idol-worshippers. They will deviate from Islam (as fast and clean) as an arrow pierces the game. If I live to witness their appearance, I will kill them as the people of Aad (whom Allah utterly destroyed and annihilated because of their disbelief) were killed. [Al-Bukhari & Muslim].

He further said, Just before the end of time, young, idiotic people will rise. They will say words similar to (the good words) of the best people. They will recite the Quran, but it will not go beyond their throats. They will deviate from the religion as fast as an arrow pierces the game. If you meet them, kill them, for killing them will bring about a reward from Allah on the Day of Resurrection for whoever kills them. [Al-Bukhari & Muslim].

The companions of the Messenger of Allah, Salla Allahu Alayhi Wasallam, were unanimous in their decision to fight Al-Khawarij. Also, the majority of the scholars of Islam state that it is an obligation to fight them.

Soon after they appeared as a distinct group, Al-Khawarij divided into seven groups, among them Al- Muhakkimah who fought Ali bin Abi Talib.

Al-Khawarij accused Ali of Kufr and announced their animosity towards him. They departed to Haroraa and chose two men as their leaders, one to lead them in prayer and the other to lead their forces in battle. When Ali realized the danger posed by these people, he sent Abdullah Ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, to debate them and expose their erroneous ways. Ibn Abbas argued with them and refuted the arguments supporting the positions they took. Many of them abandoned the camp of Al-Haroriyyah and rejoined the camp of Caliph Ali bin Abi Talib.

However, their leaders and those who remained with them refused to abandon their rebellion against the righteous Khalifah, Ali. They announced that their campaign of war against their adversaries will continue. Ali bin Abi Talib then decided to meet them himself.

He called upon them to rejoin the ranks of the Khalifah and abandon their deviant ways. He also refuted their arguments and nullified their misguided way of understanding the religion.

However, they persisted in their defiance of the Khalifah and camped their forces at the area of An-Nahrawan.

On their way to An-Nahrawan, Al-Khawarij met Abdullah -- the son of Khabbab bin Al-Aratt, a noble companion of the Messenger Salla Allahu Alayhi Wasallam, and seized him. They asked him, Who are you? He replied, I am Abdullah bin Khabbab, the companion of the Messenger Salla Allahu Alayhi Wasallam. They said, Narrate to us a Hadith you heard from your father who related it to the Messenger Salla Allahu Alayhi Wasallam. He said, I heard my father say, The Messenger of Allah, Salla Allahu Alayhi Wasallam, said, There will be a Fitnah (calamity and division) in which those who sit idle are better than those who walk, and those who walk are better than those who rush. Therefore, whoever has no choice but to kill or be killed, let him be killed and let him not be the killer. They asked him, What do you say regarding Abu Bakr and Umar? Abdullah said good words of praise regarding them. They said, What do you say with regards to At- Tahkim (when Ali and Muawiyah reverted to some of the companions to judge between them in their dispute, according to the Quran and Sunnah)?

He said, I say that Ali has better knowledge in the Book of Allah, is more careful with the religion, and has more wisdom than you! They said, You do not follow the Truth and Guidance. Rather, you follow men according to their fame. They then said to him, This Quran (which you carry) around your neck commands us to kill you. He said, Whoever the Quran preserves his life, you preserve his life in turn.

And whoever the Quran sheds his blood, give him death in turn. Then, they brought Abdullah bin Khabbab closer to the river, and one of them, Musmi bin Qhadali, slit his throat. Then, they entered his house and killed his children and also his wife, who was pregnant, and slit open her stomach.

When Ali bin Talib heard what Al-Khawarij did to Abdullah bin Khabbab and his family, he led an expedition of four thousand soldiers to arrest those who committed this atrocity. When he reached their area, he asked them to deliver those who killed Abdullah. They said to Alis emissary, We all killed him. And, furthermore, if we catch you (meaning

Ali) we will kill you too. Then, Ali prepared to fight them.

But before the battle commenced, he asked them, What do you dislike as regards my matter? They said, We hate that you, when we fought with you on the Day (incident) of Al-Jamal, allowed for us their (the side of Aaishah, Talhah, and Az-Zubair) possessions after we defeated them but did not allow us to seize their women and children as slaves. Why did you allow us to shed their blood and seize their possessions but not their women and children? Ali said, I only allowed you to seize their possession in return for their looting the Muslim treasury in the city of Basrah before I came to meet them (to convince them to end their rebellion). As for their women and children, they did not fight against us and they, therefore, still enjoyed the rights of Muslims who live in the Islamic state. Also, if I had allowed their women for you, who among you would have liked to take Aaishah (the Prophets wife) as his share? They became ashamed and silent.

Thereafter, Ali refuted all their arguments and, as a consequence, eight thousand of them rejoined his camp. However, four thousand of them insisted on fighting, led by Abdullah bin Wahb Ar-Rasibi and Thu Al-Khuwaysirah (also known as Thu Ath-Thadiyyah), whose name was Hurqus bin Zaid.

Soon afterwards, the battle between Ali and Al-Khawarij commenced, and Alis army defeated and killed them all except nine people.

After the battle ended, Ali ordered his soldiers to search for Thu Ath- Thadiyyah, who was then found among the dead. Ali then said, Allah and His Messenger have said the truth, because before he passed away, the Prophet Salla Allahu Alayhi Wasallam had told Ali that he should search for Thu Ath-Thadiyyah among the dead when he meets these rebels.

This sect of Al-Khawarij, also known as Al-Muhakkimah, considers Uthman, Ali, Aaishah, Talhah, and Az-Zubair as Kuffar. They also oblige the removal or assassination of the Muslim ruler who does not agree with their way of understanding the religion.
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
what about the rulers nowadays. Can we call them Muslims rulers?
They all are the corrupt, following the path of "MUNAFAQEEN" and agents of enemies of Quran and Islam.
any one who struggle against these present rulers of Islamic countries is actually follow the orders of Allah given in Quran
 

rahat

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mhkhan1988

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what about the rulers nowadays. Can we call them Muslims rulers?
They all are the corrupt, following the path of "MUNAFAQEEN" and agents of enemies of Quran and Islam.
any one who struggle against these present rulers of Islamic countries is actually follow the orders of Allah given in Quran

Salaamu 3alaikum wr wb

The Prophet salAllaahu 3alaihi wassalam Forbid the Muslims to rebel against the Muslim Rulers in many of Saheeh Ahadeeth. Because These Rulers are from our Nations and if the Nation is Corrupt then they will be also corrupt. Allaah will not help this Ummah till they will start Practice Islaam from Quran und Sunnah.
al ilmu qablu qaul wal amal ( The Knowledge comes before speaking and doing )
Baraka Allaah feekum wa jazaka Allaahu khayran Start Practicing Islaam and our Situation will get better In shaa2 Allaah !!!

But Thanks to hans that he posted something about this dalal Group Al khawarij and Takfeeris who make Muslims Murtad when they do Big Sins!
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
HISTORY OF KHAWAARIJ

Al-Khawarij is plural for “Kharij”, meaning one who rebels against the acknowledged Muslim ruler whom Islam obliges every Muslim to obey and not rebel against.
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Very first success of Kharjiat was the Revolt against Hazrat Usman (R) which ended on his death.

Taliban absolutely adopted the wrong way, also there is no comparison of current ruler with Hazrat Uman and Ali (R). They are supporters of Taghoot – Secularism and Western Democracy.
 
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shagi

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[/COLOR][/SIZE]there is no comparison of current ruler with Hazrat Uman and Ali (R). They are supporters of Taghoot – Secularism and Western Democracy.[/QUOTE]

You are tottally wrong here. It is clear that you are a supporter of Talibans who want to destroy Pakistan with the help of Jews and Indian money. You cannot revolt against any muslim ruler. This is against the very spirit of islam and is a way to creat chaos in an Islamic society. Go to hell Talibans and their supports who are trying to creat chaos in Pakistan.
 
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khan125

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Very first success of Kharjiat was the Revolt against Hazrat Usman (R) which ended on his death.

Taliban absolutely adopted the wrong way, also there is no comparison of current ruler with Hazrat Uman and Ali (R). They are supporters of Taghoot Secularism and Western Democracy.

there will be no comparison with hazrat umer or hazrat ali till qyama but that does not mean there will be no khwarij after them

strange logic presented by you to defend khwarij.

khwarij did not faught nonmuslims they attacked muslims called them kafirs and mushriks.same thing is practised today they are killing muslims calling them kafirs and mushriqs.
 
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khan125

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what about the rulers nowadays. Can we call them Muslims rulers?
They all are the corrupt, following the path of "MUNAFAQEEN" and agents of enemies of Quran and Islam.
any one who struggle against these present rulers of Islamic countries is actually follow the orders of Allah given in Quran
sorry Mr. ther is a difference between munafiq and corrupt first try to figure out that difference.

after that look at the behaviour of this nation if you have some sight you will quickly find out that the leaders are same as the people of the state.

jo 50 rupey main apna eeman baichta he vo gila krta he us pe jo 50 krore main apna eeman baichta he.jurm to dono ne kia lakin aik ne apni keemat 50 krore lagaee aik ne 50 rupey abb apney aap ko 50 rupey main baichney vala 50 karore valey ko bura bhala keh raha he sharam nhi atee.

vohi 50 rupey main apney aap ko baichney vala phir ja kr kothey main 200 rupey main kisi larki ka jism khareedta he phir b seena chora krke nikalta he ore us larki ko bura bhala krhta he kionkey us larki ne apna jism baicha vo fahisha ho gaee lakin is ne paisey de kr gunah kia lakin phir b seena chora kr k chal rah he.

isko koi kahey k 5lakh me amreka ka visa mil jaey ga 5 saal k liaey to iska koiee parwa nhi k ye sahih he ghalat apni jaib me a raha he to sab theek he zardari ka dil krey to ghalat.

khud poori kom chaklo me ja rahee he aik dosrey ka hq maar rahee he zina aam he libada sharafat ka he sab k samney behn bhai or tanhaiee main aik charpaee he.

nikab pe koi baat ajaiey bara masla ho jata he lakin nikab to pehna jata he lakin is liaey k koi apna pehchan na sakey,

logo k samney baat hotee he to sarey sheikhul hadyt bun jatey hain momin ore parsa bun jatey hain lakin under kitne gund bhara he vo saaf zahir hain kionkey jesee riaya vesa hukamraan.

yahan pe aakr quran or islam yaad ajata he islam me gana bjana mana he lakin koi concert ho sarey jo yahan pe mufti jama hain zroor poghanchtey hain.

youtube pe pakistan ka naam likho to agey mujra khud hi likha hoa aa jata he ye to haal he.gaaney india k filmain india kee ore baatain quran or islam ki ye munafiqat nazar nhi atee.

yahan pe deen k thekedaar baney phirtey hain hr barey shehr me chakley khuley hoey hain kon jata he vahan pr kia zrdari jata he kis us ne khulwaey hoey hain.

afsoos aajtk valedain ne inhen ye nhi sikhaya k apney gareban me jhankney ka matlab kia he hmain sirf doosro pe ilzaam lagana ata he or bs.
 

lord_sultan

Councller (250+ posts)
no abbsolutely rubbish dont call taaliban khawarij they r not khawarij khawarij not just against muslim khalifa's they r faith was also changed they call hazrat ali god so they were also mushriks and dont call pakistani taaliban a taaliban the afghans r the only talibans and they r having some differences in froiey ikhtalaf otherways they all r complete muslims infact now a days they only have khilafat if you agreed or not and they r freedom fighters for their country so plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz dont compare them with khawarij
 
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khan125

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no abbsolutely rubbish dont call taaliban khawarij they r not khawarij khawarij not just against muslim khalifa's they r faith was also changed they call hazrat ali god so they were also mushriks and dont call pakistani taaliban a taaliban the afghans r the only talibans and they r having some differences in froiey ikhtalaf otherways they all r complete muslims infact now a days they only have khilafat if you agreed or not and they r freedom fighters for their country so plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz dont compare them with khawarij

Mufti sahab shayad aapko maloom nhi k khwarij ne Hazrat Ali ko nauzubillah kafir or mushrik kaha tha jao jakr pehley khwarij ki tareekh parho.

aap konsa propaganda kr rahey hain.

baki aapko to kuch b nhi maloom khwarij k barey main inki to yahi nishani he k ye nimaazo main rozzo me or baki ibaddat me bohut paband hongey.ye baat Hzur s.a.w ne kahee sahab karam r.a se k tum apni nimazo ore rozoon /ibadaat ko in se km paogey.abb khud andaza kr lo k zahiri shariat pe inho ne hulyey se lekr ibadaat tk itna bakaidgee se amal kia hoga k log is shak me mubtila ho jaingey k ye sahaih hain ore hm ghalat hain.

hazart abdullah ibn umer ne inkey barey main aik nishani btayee k inkee aik nishani ye ho gee k quran o hadyt me jo baatain kufar ki tarf ki gaee hain ye unko musalamno pe fit krtey hain.

yahi daikh lo aajkl jo ho raha he,musalmano pe vo ayat jo kafiro k liaey nazil hoee thee fit kr k kufr or shirk k fatwey lagayey ja rahey hain.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
[/COLOR][/SIZE]there is no comparison of current ruler with Hazrat Uman and Ali (R). They are supporters of Taghoot – Secularism and Western Democracy.

You are tottally wrong here. It is clear that you are a supporter of Talibans who want to destroy Pakistan with the help of Jews and Indian money. You cannot revolt against any muslim ruler. This is against the very spirit of islam and is a way to creat chaos in an Islamic society. Go to hell Talibans and their supports who are trying to creat chaos in Pakistan.[/QUOTE]

I think you missed the first part "Taliban absolutely adopted the wrong way"
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
khwarij did not faught nonmuslims they attacked muslims called them kafirs and mushriks.same thing is practised today they are killing muslims calling them kafirs and mushriqs.

Pakistan is providing intelligence support for Drone attacks, who many Non-Muslims are yet killed in these attacks, out of total casualties how many were the Taliban.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
While expressing your hate for Taliban keep in mind existing system is as far and against Islam as you think Taliban are.
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
I think, in the today world the real muslims are the peoples who are fighting and scarfies for the implementation of Quran and on that evluation we only find "TALIBAN" as the true muslims.
all the others claiming "Muslims" are actually 'Munafaqeen" as clearly explained in Quran
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I think, in the today world the real muslims are the peoples who are fighting and scarfies for the implementation of Quran and on that evluation we only find "TALIBAN" as the true muslims.
all the others claiming "Muslims" are actually 'Munafaqeen" as clearly explained in Quran

We have to look in the life of Muhammad SAW how did he implemented the Quran.
 
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khan125

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Pakistan is providing intelligence support for Drone attacks, who many Non-Muslims are yet killed in these attacks, out of total casualties how many were the Taliban.

they are terrorist dont try to mix it up with religion.jo mulk k kanoon k khilaaf baghawat kre ga uskey khilaaf krvaiee honee chahey.

abb logo ki ankhoon main khaak na dalo .
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
they are terrorist dont try to mix it up with religion.jo mulk k kanoon k khilaaf baghawat kre ga uskey khilaaf krvaiee honee chahey.
abb logo ki ankhoon main khaak na dalo .

oor joo Allah or Rashool (SAW) kay Deen say bagawat karay bathay hain un ka kya keeya jaay, oor kya keeya hay aab tak.

[FONT=&quot]ملا کو جو ہے ہند (پاکستان) ميں آذان کی اجازت[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]نادان یہ سمجھتا ہے کہ اسلام ہے آزاد[/FONT]
 
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khan125

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oor joo Allah or Rashool (SAW) kay Deen say bagawat karay bathay hain un ka kya keeya jaay, oor kya keeya hay aab tak.

[FONT=&quot]ملا کو جو ہے ہند (پاکستان) ميں آذان کی اجازت[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]نادان یہ سمجھتا ہے کہ اسلام ہے آزاد[/FONT]

abey o bewakoof insaan ye hind ki translation pakistan aapkey abba jee ne farmaiee he:angry_smile::angry_smile:

munafikat ki hadd he kaisey aik sahair ka matlab change kr rahey hoo sharam to nhi atee tumhain.
(thumbsdown)(thumbsdown)

teree ghatia soch pe ***** he tujhey ye hukamran to ghalat nazar atee hain lakin vo kharji jinko bud tareen insan kaha gaya vo ghalat nhi nazar atee jinkey barey me hukam he k inko qatal krney vala janati he unka fitna nazar nhi aya.

kis hukamran ne kaha he k sharab halal ho gaee ,zina halal ho gaya ya islam koi kanoon nhi kis ne deen k khilaaf koi baat ki he.

haan amal nhi ho raha to awam konsa deen pe amal kr rahee he chori fraud aik dosrey ka haq marna zina sharab ye sab to mashrey ka hisa hain.

kisi hukamran ne inko halal to nhi kaha koiey kahey to phir b begunah logo ka katl e aam jaiz nhi.

laanat ullah e aalal kazibeen /munafikeen.
 

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