Did America Save its Humiliation in Afghanistan by Withdrawing?

jet_li

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
According to Guardian News:

Biden said senior defense officials had told him that moving swiftly was the most effective method to protect US troops, and the president noted that no service members had been lost in the withdrawal process so far.

“In this context, speed is safety,” Biden said.

Retired Maj Gen James “Spider,” Marks told CNN on Thursday afternoon that he saw no outcome for Afghanistan in the near future other than civil war, with the Taliban surging to take control of vital chunks of the country but leaving enough of a vacuum to create, once again, “a breeding ground” for terrorism by Islamist fundamentalists.

For Further Analysis:

According to NBC News:
Biden has faced criticism from Republicans on Capitol Hill as intense fighting has broken out between the Taliban and Afghan security forces amid the rapid exit of U.S. troops.


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Future4Unity

MPA (400+ posts)
When you "chicken out" you have to calculate how many casualties versus safe exit you can actually do in reality actions
 

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
US had no plan what to do after the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. But lesson hard learned, US will no longer invade anymore

According to Guardian News:

Biden said senior defense officials had told him that moving swiftly was the most effective method to protect US troops, and the president noted that no service members had been lost in the withdrawal process so far.

“In this context, speed is safety,” Biden said.

Retired Maj Gen James “Spider,” Marks told CNN on Thursday afternoon that he saw no outcome for Afghanistan in the near future other than civil war, with the Taliban surging to take control of vital chunks of the country but leaving enough of a vacuum to create, once again, “a breeding ground” for terrorism by Islamist fundamentalists.

For Further Analysis:

According to NBC News:
Biden has faced criticism from Republicans on Capitol Hill as intense fighting has broken out between the Taliban and Afghan security forces amid the rapid exit of U.S. troops.


Sources:


Shameful and disastrous. The Superpower is shattering !!!

haha phir bhi humare brown angrez amreka bahadur ki kamyabi ki tarefein karta nahe thakta!

When you "chicken out" you have to calculate how many casualties versus safe exit you can actually do in reality actions
 

jet_li

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Yeah but difference is in Vietnam they got shot, target, lost helicopters but in Kabul not a single shot fired & no loss of life

Afghanistan seems wayy easier
Well, I respect your opinion but the facts are otherwise what happened in the last 20 years? How many lives do they lose?

This time Pakistan saved them by giving them the passage to exist by bringing them to the table with the Afghan Taliban in Doha Qatar.

They do not have any other choice but leave swiftly.
 

StarTrooper

MPA (400+ posts)
Well, I respect your opinion but the facts are otherwise what happened in the last 20 years? How many lives do they lose?

This time Pakistan saved them by giving them the passage to exist by bringing them to the table with the Afghan Taliban in Doha Qatar.

They do not have any other choice but leave swiftly.

Come out of your fools paradise

In Veitnam 60 thousand US troops died in 20 years
In Afghanistan just 23 hundred troops died in 20 years

Do not try to compare apples with oranges

Even the Iraqis kill rate of US Toops and Kashmiris kill rate of Indian Troops is better than Talibans and their useless trolls
 

jet_li

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Come out of your fools paradise

In Veitnam 60 thousand US troops died in 20 years
In Afghanistan just 23 hundred troops died in 20 years

Do not try to compare apples with oranges

Even the Iraqis kill rate of US Toops and Kashmiris kill rate of Indian Troops is better than Talibans and their useless trolls
Thank you for the update but keep in mind that this time America used private contractors, NATO allies, the Afghan Army, drones, mother of all bombs, and satellites.

These are the new facts and by the way, what was the cost of this war compare to the previous ones?
 

Future4Unity

MPA (400+ posts)
Come out of your fools paradise

In Veitnam 60 thousand US troops died in 20 years
In Afghanistan just 23 hundred troops died in 20 years

Do not try to compare apples with oranges

Even the Iraqis kill rate of US Toops and Kashmiris kill rate of Indian Troops is better than Talibans and their useless trolls
Thats exactly correct of factual data
You are Spot on
 

StarTrooper

MPA (400+ posts)
Thank you for the update but keep in mind that this time America used private contractors, NATO allies, the Afghan Army, drones, mother of all bombs, and satellites.

These are the new facts and by the way, what was the cost of this war compare to the previous ones?
America used all these things in Iraq too . Still the US troops kill rate by Iraqis is double than Talibans. Kashmiri kill rate of Indians is also double than Talibans

In Veitman America also had the support of Captalist Veitnam forces & government

In reality America is imporving its capabilities in every war
 

jet_li

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
America used all these things in Iraq too . Still the US troops kill rate by Iraqis is double than Talibans. Kashmiri kill rate of Indians is also double than Talibans

In Veitman America also had the support of Captalist Veitnam forces & government

In reality America is imporving its capabilities in every war
Interesting facts but then improving these capabilities does this bring any positive outcome?

I mean how many substantive wars Americans have won since world war 2? Just killing Afghans and destroying Afghanistan as a country and cost few peanuts of troops then safely stepping out does this make any sense?

On the contrary, Pakistan Army has strategized far better than the Americans they not only root all its enimies but also winning the war against terrorism inside its boundary and practically fighting since 9/11 against TTP, AL Qaeda, ISIS, and other banned outfits.

Now the civil war is edging its territories we have almost fenced our boundry towards Afghanistan. There will be spillover but far less.
 

Future4Unity

MPA (400+ posts)
The Americans killed 1.3 million Vietnamese in that war
The Americans killed 1 million+ Afghans in this war
Kill ratio is exactly 1 to 20 & 1 to 19
 

Future4Unity

MPA (400+ posts)
Interesting facts but then improving these capabilities does this bring any positive outcome?

I mean how many substantive wars Americans have won since world war 2? Just killing Afghans and destroying Afghanistan as a country and cost few peanuts of troops then safely stepping out does this make any sense?

On the contrary, Pakistan Army has strategized far better than the Americans they not only root all its enimies but also winning the war against terrorism inside its boundary and practically fighting since 9/11 against TTP, AL Qaeda, ISIS, and other banned outfits.

Now the civil war is edging its territories we have almost fenced our boundry towards Afghanistan. There will be spillover but far less.
Agree but Pakistan paid heavy price on War on America's Terror campaign
76,364 Pakistani lost their lives AND
it cost Pakistan $150 billion to run Zarb A Azm war on Afghan border
 

jet_li

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Agree but Pakistan paid heavy price on War on America's Terror campaign
76,364 Pakistani lost their lives AND
it cost Pakistan $150 billion to run Zarb A Azm war on Afghan border
Yes because we fought the war and on the contrary Americans just enjoyed Afghanistan while using technology.

Therefore, we paid the price and we are winning that's my point. And we are not a superpower in fact we are just a third-world country.

Since world 2 not a single substantive war America has won.

This is the bottom line of American military might.
 

Sonya Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
The defeat of a superpower will go down in history as the downfall of that superpower......
China has occupied central stage when US was trapped in Afghanistan quagmire...... All for what ??? .... Running away in the middle of night ??? ..... America will now try to wage big time overt or covert war with China to salvage the lost pride ..... but it’s too late now .....
 

Jawad66

MPA (400+ posts)
Muslim countries have no standing,fuking mighty taliban handed over kabul to American forces with out a fight, and America captured whole Iraq with in ten days.
 

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