Deoband fatwa bans photography as "un-islamic"

[M Ali Khan]

Still living in the stone age, Maulana? Every picture is haraam except when printed on a rupee/dollar/riyaal note in a mullah's pocket

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...graphy-as-un-Islamic/articleshow/22483056.cms
[h=1]Deoband issues fatwa banning photography as un-Islamic[/h]PTI | Sep 11, 2013, 02.34 PM IST

NEW DELHI: India's leading Islamic seminary Darul Uloom has issued a fatwa, saying "photography is unlawful and a sin", even though Saudi Arabia allows photographers inside the holy city of Mecca and live telecast of 'namaz' is beamed on Islamic channels across the world.

Mufti Abdul Qasim Nomani, Mohtamim (Vice-Chancellor) of Darul Uloom Deoband, said on the phone, "Photography is un-Islamic. Muslims are not allowed to get their photos clicked unless it is for an identity card or for making a passport."

He said Islam does not permit video-taping of marriages or clicking of pictures to save as mementos for future generations.

When pointed out that Saudi Arabia, which follows the Wahabi school that aspires to return to the earliest fundamental sources of Islam, allows photography in the holiest of Islamic cities Mecca and beams live coverage through the year, Nomani said, "Let them do it. We do not allow it. Not everything they do is correct."

Nomani agreed with the fatwa -- a religious edict issued by Darul Ifta in Deoband -- regarding a query from an engineering graduate saying he was passionate about photography and wanted to pursue it as a career.

"Photography is unlawful and sin. Hadith (recorded Islamic tradition) warns sternly against it. Do not do this course. You should search any suitable job based on your engineering course," reads the fatwa posted on the school's website.

All India Muslim Law Personal Board member Mufti Abul Irfan Qadri Razzaqi also agreed with Nomani's fatwa.

"Islam forbids photographing of humans and animals. Whoever does that will be answerable to God," Razzaqi told .

When reminded that Saudis allow it, he said, "Just because they are richer than us doesn't mean they are also correct. If they are allowing photography they will be answerable on the Day of Judgment in the court of God."

Islam does not permit video-taping of marriages or clicking of pictures to save as mementos for future generation: Deoband.

 

[M Ali Khan]

 

[barca]

یہ کون ہے جو روز کوئی نہ کوئی فتویٰ دیتا ہے
اور تھریڈ سٹاٹر تو رہتا ہی اسی آڑ میں ہے (omg)​

 

[Bangash]

پرسنل تصاویر کسی شخص کے لینا اس کے اجازت کے بغیر لازمی بین ہونے چاہئے اسی طرح تصویروں کو بگاڑنا جیسے فوٹو شاپ سے لوگ کرتے ہیں اس پر بھی سزا ملنی چاہئے
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[lurker]

Shukar hai India does not have some religion running the show, otherwise it'd be like a bad Jerry Springer re-run over and over again everytime a Mullah decided to tackle a fatwa. lol.

 

[Believer12]

یہ کون ہے جو روز کوئی نہ کوئی فتویٰ دیتا ہے
اور تھریڈ سٹاٹر تو رہتا ہی اسی آڑ میں ہے (omg)

فتوی دینے والا کوی عام مفتی نھیں بلکہ ادارھ دیوبند جسکی بنیاد برٹش لارڈ(وائسراے) نے رکھی تھی اس کے مھتمم یعنی دیوبندیوں کے سب سے بڑے عالم کا فتوی ھے۔فتوے کا اطلاق کرنسی نوٹوں پر نھیں ھوگا اور نہ ھی بینک کارڈز پر کیونکہ ان دونوں پر فوٹو کا ھونا لازمی ھے۔ اب بغیر نوٹوں کے مولوی ایسے ھی ھے جیسے انڈے کے بغیر مرغی۔ اگر مفتی بینک کارڈ بھی لینا چاھے تو اس پر بھی فوٹو لازمی ھے سمجھ سے باھر ھے مفتی نے یہ فتوی کیوں دے دیا لگتا ھے مفتی جی نے بندر کی طرح وھی شاخ کاٹنا شروع کردی ھے جس پر براجمان ھیں ​

 

[Unicorn]

This news was posted yesterday under heading " Shining India " so I decided to google Islam and photography and found that its not only Deobandi who has issued Fatwa in this regard but there are Arab scholars who have given similar Fatwas. I also found a video from Zakir Naik addressing this question. He read the sources and translated them and he is not very far away from this fatwa.

 

[anasmr]

فتوی دینے والا کوی عام مفتی نھیں بلکہ ادارھ دیوبند جسکی بنیاد برٹش لارڈ(وائسراے) نے رکھی تھی اس کے مھتمم یعنی دیوبندیوں کے سب سے بڑے عالم کا فتوی ھے۔فتوے کا اطلاق کرنسی نوٹوں پر نھیں ھوگا اور نہ ھی بینک کارڈز پر کیونکہ ان دونوں پر فوٹو کا ھونا لازمی ھے۔ اب بغیر نوٹوں کے مولوی ایسے ھی ھے جیسے انڈے کے بغیر مرغی۔ اگر مفتی بینک کارڈ بھی لینا چاھے تو اس پر بھی فوٹو لازمی ھے سمجھ سے باھر ھے مفتی نے یہ فتوی کیوں دے دیا لگتا ھے مفتی جی نے بندر کی طرح وھی شاخ کاٹنا شروع کردی ھے جس پر براجمان ھیں ​

Deoband ki bunyad Viceroy ne rakhi thi?
Lo yar, ham bhi bare bewaqoof hain. Viceroy se sirf aik anaar ka darakht hi mila madarsay keh liye.

Hamain bhi Aala Hazrat ki tarah aik fatwa dena chahiye tha keh Angraiz keh hote huey Hindustan Darul Islam hai. Aur Angraiz keh khilaf jihad nahe hosakta.

Aur waise bhi, is baat par tamam hi ulema ka ittefaq hai keh jahan tasweer bilkul zaruri ho (passport, ID Card, etc) wahan ijazat hai, warna shoqiya nahe khinchwani chahiyeh.
Aqal ki baat karo. Kabhi tasweer keh baghair bhi ID Card ya passport ban sakta hai?

Aur yeh batao keh is fatway main currency note ka zikr kahan hai?

 

[Believer12]

Deoband ki bunyad Viceroy ne rakhi thi?
Lo yar, ham bhi bare bewaqoof hain. Viceroy se sirf aik anaar ka darakht hi mila madarsay keh liye.

Hamain bhi Aala Hazrat ki tarah aik fatwa dena chahiye tha keh Angraiz keh hote huey Hindustan Darul Islam hai. Aur Angraiz keh khilaf jihad nahe hosakta.

Aur waise bhi, is baat par tamam hi ulema ka ittefaq hai keh jahan tasweer bilkul zaruri ho (passport, ID Card, etc) wahan ijazat hai, warna shoqiya nahe khinchwani chahiyeh.
Aqal ki baat karo. Kabhi tasweer keh baghair bhi ID Card ya passport ban sakta hai?

Aur yeh batao keh is fatway main currency note ka zikr kahan hai?

مدرسہ دیو بند ھندوستان کی بنیاد وائسراے نے رکھی تھی نھیں یقین تو کبھی انڈیا جا کر انکے مدرسے کی لائبریری سے پرانے اخبار نکالیں جو انھوں نے شائع کیے تھے۔ان سے آپکو پتا چل جاے گا۔رھی بات شوقیہ کی تو جو چیز ممنوع از روے اسلام ھے وھ کسی بھی صورت ممنوع ھی ھے اگر اسلام سے محبت کا دعوی ھے تو نہ بنوایئں کارڈ۔ منافقت تو نہ کریں کہ ضرورت ھے تو حلال شوقیہ ھے تو حرام
پھر تو یہ بھی کھیں گے کہ ضرورت کے تحت شراب پینا حلال ھے ھاں شوقیہ پینا منع ھے

 

[anasmr]

مدرسہ دیو بند ھندوستان کی بنیاد وائسراے نے رکھی تھی نھیں یقین تو کبھی انڈیا جا کر انکے مدرسے کی لائبریری سے پرانے اخبار نکالیں جو انھوں نے شائع کیے تھے۔ان سے آپکو پتا چل جاے گا۔رھی بات شوقیہ کی تو جو چیز ممنوع از روے اسلام ھے وھ کسی بھی صورت ممنوع ھی ھے اگر اسلام سے محبت کا دعوی ھے تو نہ بنوایئں کارڈ۔ منافقت تو نہ کریں کہ ضرورت ھے تو حلال شوقیہ ھے تو حرام
پھر تو یہ بھی کھیں گے کہ ضرورت کے تحت شراب پینا حلال ھے ھاں شوقیہ پینا منع ھے

MashaAllah. Mujhe pata nahe tha keh aik Google Mufti se wasta para hai
Aik mufti keh fatway ki mere aage ziada qadr hai, kisi airay ghairay ki raye ki nahe

Wassalam

 

[taban]

agar is ko pehlay paisoon ka khayal aa jata tu is ki boltee fitwee pehlay he band ho jatee. afsos k molvee ko paisoon ki na soojhee

 

[Believer12]

MashaAllah. Mujhe pata nahe tha keh aik Google Mufti se wasta para hai
Aik mufti keh fatway ki mere aage ziada qadr hai, kisi airay ghairay ki raye ki nahe

Wassalam

waalaikam salam jeetey raho

 

[awan4ever]

Deoband ki bunyad Viceroy ne rakhi thi?
Lo yar, ham bhi bare bewaqoof hain. Viceroy se sirf aik anaar ka darakht hi mila madarsay keh liye.

Hamain bhi Aala Hazrat ki tarah aik fatwa dena chahiye tha keh Angraiz keh hote huey Hindustan Darul Islam hai. Aur Angraiz keh khilaf jihad nahe hosakta.

Aur waise bhi, is baat par tamam hi ulema ka ittefaq hai keh jahan tasweer bilkul zaruri ho (passport, ID Card, etc) wahan ijazat hai, warna shoqiya nahe khinchwani chahiyeh.
Aqal ki baat karo. Kabhi tasweer keh baghair bhi ID Card ya passport ban sakta hai?

Aur yeh batao keh is fatway main currency note ka zikr kahan hai?

Is hisab say tu phir textbooks mein tasweerain allowed hein ya wo bhe ghair zaruri hein?

Ajkal online video lectures, seminars, research presentations waghera hoti hein, kya ye sab bhe ghair zaruri hein?

Google Maps mein jo fotography hoti hay saari dunya ke aur jisko hum daily istimaal kertay hein for navigation kya wo bhe na-jaiz hay kyunkeh us mein bhe insaan waghera aa jatay hein.

 

[Fakhre Alam]

This news was posted yesterday under heading " Shining India " so I decided to google Islam and photography and found that its not only Deobandi who has issued Fatwa in this regard but there are Arab scholars who have given similar Fatwas. I also found a video from Zakir Naik addressing this question. He read the sources and translated them and he is not very far away from this fatwa.

it has nothing to do with india. its an islamic thing and most of our scholars agree upon this fatwa. don't know why people react specifically against islamic fatwas. Mufti fatwa lagaye toh aam muslamano ko is ky against nai bolna chahiye.

 

[ualis]

:angry_smile:

 

[ualis]

in deos ko band karo kaheen cave may jahan say yeh kabhi nikal na sakain....in jahiloon ki wajah say aaj islam ko saab bura kahtay hein....

 

[anasmr]

Is hisab say tu phir textbooks mein tasweerain allowed hein ya wo bhe ghair zaruri hein?

Ajkal online video lectures, seminars, research presentations waghera hoti hein, kya ye sab bhe ghair zaruri hein?

Google Maps mein jo fotography hoti hay saari dunya ke aur jisko hum daily istimaal kertay hein for navigation kya wo bhe na-jaiz hay kyunkeh us mein bhe insaan waghera aa jatay hein.

Jahan tak video lectures ki baat hai, kuch ulema ID Card aur passport k sath sath Tableegh e Deen ko bhi aik ehem zarurat samajhte hain aur us keh liye bhi video ko use karte hain.

Lekin bohut se aise ulema bhi hain jinhon ne is ko bhi mana kia hai aur khud bhi har kism ki video aur photo se parhaiz karte hain.

Ab jis baat par Ulema ka ikhtilaf ho, to main apne kam ilmi ki waja se us par koi tabsira nahe karta.

Wassalam

 

[modern.fakir]

Arab scholars from the same sect that this idiot belongs too. Anyways kafirs shouldnt worry about this stuff [hilar][hilar]

This news was posted yesterday under heading " Shining India " so I decided to google Islam and photography and found that its not only Deobandi who has issued Fatwa in this regard but there are Arab scholars who have given similar Fatwas. I also found a video from Zakir Naik addressing this question. He read the sources and translated them and he is not very far away from this fatwa.

 

[modern.fakir]

The correct Islamic Faith :

AS PER QURAN, DRAWING / TAKING / HANGING OF PICTURES FOR GOOD PURPOSES IS ALLOWED IN ISLAM
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(1) It is in Quran - The people of (Prophet) Musa (علیھ السلا م )made in his absence, out of their ornaments, the image of calf, (for worship): it seemed to low: did they not see that it could neither speak to them, nor show them the way? They took it for worship and they did wrong. (Al-Araf - 148).

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(2) It is in Quran - We bestowed aforetime on Abraham (علیھ السلا م ) his righteousness of conduct, and well were We (سبحانہ و تعا لی) acquainted with him. Behold! He (Abraham-علیھ السلا م ) said to his father (the brother of his father whom he used to call father out of affection) and his people, "What are these images, to which you are (so assiduously) devoted?" They said, "We found our fathers worshiping them." He said, "Indeed you have been in manifest error, you and your fathers." (Al-Anbiya - 51-54).
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(3) It is in Quran - "They worked for him (Prophet Sulaiman - علیھ السلا م) as he desired, (making) arches, images, basins as large as reservoirs, and (cooking) cauldrons fixed (in their places): "Work O' Sons of David (علیھ السلا م ) with thanks! but few of My servants are grateful!". (Saba - 13).
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The first Quranic verse says that in the absence of Prophet Musa ( علیھ السلا م ) some people made an image of a Calf for worship. This act on their part was wrong.


The second Quranic verse says that some people in Prophet Ibrahim's ( علیھ السلا م ) time made some images and worshiped them. This act on their part was wrong.


The third Quranic verse says that some people worked as per the orders of Prophet Sulaiman ( علیھ السلا م ) and made images. This act on their part was right. Why?

Because these images were not meant for worship.


The above Quranic verses confirm the fact that the intention behind making images has to be virtuous. Images made with bad intention (for worship) are disallowed and images made out of good intention are allowed in Islam.
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[modern.fakir]

AS PER AHADITH, DRAWING / TAKING PICTURES OR EVEN MAKING DOLLS ( HUMAN OR ANIMAL SHAPES ) FOR GOOD PURPOSES IS ALLOWED IN ISLAM
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(1) It is in Hadith - Narrated by Ummul Momineen Aisha(رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہا) - "I used to play with dolls in the presence of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم)and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) would call them to join and play with me. (Bukhari).




(2) It is in Hadith - Narrated by Ummul Momineen Aisha(رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہا) "When the Apostle of Allah (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) arrived after the expedition of Tabuk or Khaybar (the narrator is doubtful), the drought raised an end of a curtain which was hung in front of her store-room, revealing some dolls which belonged to her. He asked: What is this? She replied: My dolls. Among them he saw a horse with wings made of rags, and asked: What is this I see among them? She replied: A horse. He asked: What is this that it has on it? She replied: Two wings. He asked: A horse with two wings? She replied: Have you not heard that Solomon (علیھ السلا م ) had horses with wings? She said: Thereupon the Apostle of Allah(صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) laughed so heartily that I could see his molar teeth. (Abu Dawud).
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From above Ahadith, we can draw the following conclusions.

(1) Pictures drawn, taken or even making shapes of human beings or animals is allowed in Islam provided they are made for some good purpose; even as play things for children.
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(2) Pictures can be drawn in text books / drawing books / black boards, etc., to explain various subjects to students.
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(3) Pictures can be drawn / taken for scientific and technological research and education at Colleges, Universities and laboratories.
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(4) Human / Animal models can be made for scientific research and education.
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(5) Medical fraternity can work on dead bodies of humans and animals for their education and research. They can record their findings by way of pictures.
(6) Pictures can be taken and used for Passports / I-Cards / Driver licenses / social security and a host of other requirements.
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(7) Pictures of Islamic scholars / Shuyooks can be drawn / printed in books for identification.
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(8) Islamic scholars / Shuyooks can appear on TVs, Internet and Videophones to explain Islamic issues to people.
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(9) Pictures of family members can be drawn / taken with the help of a Camera. Since these pictures are used as a remembrance for the following generations, these can be hanged on walls.
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