Deen-o-Danish - 29th August 2010 - Topic: Reality of Namaz-e-Taraveh

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[Muhammad Ikhlaq Siddiqui]

Jazak Allah !!"!!!!

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

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[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

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[anees1980]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

Jazak Allah brother, may Allah shower His blessings on you.

 

[onlykami]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

Aap nay bilkul sahi kaha k yeh nafl namaz hai 20 kya 40 bhi parhi ja sakti hain per masnoon tareeqa jo nabi pbuh say sabit hai wo 8 rakat hi hai:

is per mutadad salaf ulema ka ittefaq hai balkay ulemae deoband bhi is per muttafiq hain :

mjhay yeh samajh nahi ati hazrat umar R.A ki sahih rivayat ko chor kar munkata rivayat hamesha q pesh ki jati hain :

meri aap sab say guzarish hai k firqa parasti ki ainak utar kar agar aap is jawab e pamphlet ko parh lain tu aap ko is main tamam tafseel mil jaigi 11 rakat k na sirf sahaba, tabeen, balkay aaimae arbaa bhi isi k qail hain :

http://www.4shared.com/document/_nnSUviw/Namaz-e-Taraweehi.html?

@faiza
@pakistani1947
@such bolo
@waleedhussain

 

[sahiL]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

JazakAllah brothers.......both of you shed some light on a very important topic and thousands of muslims are confused about it whether to perform 20 Raka or 8 Raka.....I personally pray 8 Raka's Taraveeh....but please let this thread keep going without making it a sectarian issue....i learned alot from these 2 posts....thanks

Aap nay bilkul sahi kaha k yeh nafl namaz hai 20 kya 40 bhi parhi ja sakti hain per masnoon tareeqa jo nabi pbuh say sabit hai wo 8 rakat hi hai:

is per mutadad salaf ulema ka ittefaq hai balkay ulemae deoband bhi is per muttafiq hain :

mjhay yeh samajh nahi ati hazrat umar R.A ki sahih rivayat ko chor kar munkata rivayat hamesha q pesh ki jati hain :

meri aap sab say guzarish hai k firqa parasti ki ainak utar kar agar aap is jawab e pamphlet ko parh lain tu aap ko is main tamam tafseel mil jaigi 11 rakat k na sirf sahaba, tabeen, balkay aaimae arbaa bhi isi k qail hain :

http://www.4shared.com/document/_nnSUviw/Namaz-e-Taraweehi.html?

@faiza
@pakistani1947
@such bolo
@waleedhussain

 

[Pakistani1947]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

JazakAllah brothers.......both of you shed some light on a very important topic and thousands of muslims are confused about it whether to perform 20 Raka or 8 Raka.....I personally pray 8 Raka's Taraveeh....but please let this thread keep going without making it a sectarian issue....i learned alot from these 2 posts....thanks

Dear Brother Sahil,

May Allah bless you and your family, (Aameen). A Muslim has no other way than total submission to Allah and His Rasool (صلى الله عليه وسلم). Whenever a Muslim find evidence (Quraan and authentic Hadeeth) he should accept it without any resistance.

 

[umairel]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

JazakAllah brothers.......both of you shed some light on a very important topic and thousands of muslims are confused about it whether to perform 20 Raka or 8 Raka.....I personally pray 8 Raka's Taraveeh....but please let this thread keep going without making it a sectarian issue....i learned alot from these 2 posts....thanks

Yeh MashaAllah very informative discussion with references from both sides. And this also proof the necessity of Taqleed as ordinary person cannot do such deep research in minor(Furoee) issues. So we have to follow whom we consider more reliable in extracting ahkam from Quran and sunnah and tolerate other opinion open heartedly as well.

 

[atensari]

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[Faiza]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

 

[Pakistani1947]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

Yeh MashaAllah very informative discussion with references from both sides. And this also proof the necessity of Taqleed as ordinary person cannot do such deep research in minor(Furoee) issues. So we have to follow whom we consider more reliable in extracting ahkam from Quran and sunnah and tolerate other opinion open heartedly as well.

Dear umairel, No it is not "taqleed" if you see evidences from both sides and act according to most authentic evidence. In this way you are not doing "taqleed" (blind following of any person) but just following the most authentic evidence (Quraan and authentic Hadeeths). It is not necessary that only a scholar can produce most authentic evidences sometime an ordinary person has access to most authentic evidence.

"Taqleed" would be ONLY if you bindly follow a personality (other than our beloved Prophet Muhammad pubu) without even asking for any evidence (Quraan and authentic Hadeeths).

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

yar 1888 main malka victoria firqay bana gaee ahl-e-hadith k naam say ...

mery share karda artical main dalail bhi mojoodh hain or last paragraph main ulema ki tarf say ki gaee
tanmbhi bhi mojoodh hai...


her sal internet pay alhuda or degar ahl-e-hadith firqay yeh behas chair daytay hain
abb tu mery pass kaee logo ki audios bhi jama hogaee hain..


jo Taraweeh k maslay pay bak bak karty etnay agay chalay gay k Khulfa-e-rashdeen ki biddat
keh gay esko ..


any way humari sharing serf Ahl-e-sunnat wal jamat k leyh hai

barray sagheer main angrayz k banay hoay firqay k leyh nahi essay ziyada kuch nahi kehta ...

 

[umairel]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

Dear umairel, No it is not "taqleed" if you see evidences from both sides and act according to most authentic evidence. In this way you are not doing "taqleed" (blind following of any person) but just following the most authentic evidence (Quraan and authentic Hadeeths). It is not necessary that only a scholar can produce most authentic evidences sometime an ordinary person has access to most authentic evidence.

"Taqleed" would be ONLY if you bindly follow a personality (other than our beloved Prophet Muhammad pubu) without even asking for any evidence (Quraan and authentic Hadeeths).

Dear brother!. I was discussing the point that every person cannot practically research each and every hadith/ references then how can he say which is authentic one??? One option is to adopt most strict one..Second is to adopt most easy one9 it will be nafs parasti) the third is to follow one whom he considered best and followable and this is the way adopted by Ahle Sunnat WalJamaat

 

[onlykami]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

aray yar agar koi practically research nahi kar sakta tu ulema haina un say aap quran o hadith ki roshni main masla poch lain, aap log logon ko nabi pbuh ki ataat say hata kar auron ki taqleed main laga rahay hain ? kya koi Allah k nabi pbuh ka shareek ho sakta hai ? kya Allah nay nabi k ilawa auron ki ataat ka hukum bhi dya hai ????

Dear brother!. I was discussing the point that every person cannot practically research each and every hadith/ references then how can he say which is authentic one??? One option is to adopt most strict one..Second is to adopt most easy one9 it will be nafs parasti) the third is to follow one whom he considered best and followable and this is the way adopted by Ahle Sunnat WalJamaat

@pakistani1947
@such bolo

 

[umairel]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

aray yar agar koi practically research nahi kar sakta tu ulema haina un say aap quran o hadith ki roshni main masla poch lain, aap log logon ko nabi pbuh ki ataat say hata kar auron ki taqleed main laga rahay hain ? kya koi Allah k nabi pbuh ka shareek ho sakta hai ? kya Allah nay nabi k ilawa auron ki ataat ka hukum bhi dya hai ????



@pakistani1947
@such bolo

yar ap logon k dimag me ye baat bitha di gai ha k aimma nabi sallaho alehe wassalam k khilaf masla batate hain. ye baat zehen se nikalo ge to samjo ge. tamam aima quran hadith sahaba k aqwal o amal se hi masail nikalte hain aur batate hain. ahle sunnah wa jamaah quran o sunnah ki roshni me ak ki itteba krte hain aur dosron ka ahtaram krte hain.

 

[onlykami]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

I dont know but i know that we are muslim :alhamd: and we follow quran and sunnah we only blind follow our prophet PBUH and if we are not on the path of jannah please tell us one ayah or one sahih hadeeth and we will follow accordingly inshallah we are not like others that what ever sahih hadeeth say just defend my mazhab even with zaeef hadeeth, mashallah this is our quality that we always strive for the best and try to do exactly as nabi pbuh teaches and sahaba RA act .

yar 1888 main malka victoria firqay bana gaee ahl-e-hadith k naam say ...

mery share karda artical main dalail bhi mojoodh hain or last paragraph main ulema ki tarf say ki gaee
tanmbhi bhi mojoodh hai...


her sal internet pay alhuda or degar ahl-e-hadith firqay yeh behas chair daytay hain
abb tu mery pass kaee logo ki audios bhi jama hogaee hain..


jo Taraweeh k maslay pay bak bak karty etnay agay chalay gay k Khulfa-e-rashdeen ki biddat
keh gay esko ..


any way humari sharing serf Ahl-e-sunnat wal jamat k leyh hai

barray sagheer main angrayz k banay hoay firqay k leyh nahi essay ziyada kuch nahi kehta ...

 

[onlykami]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

:alhamd: hum nay aaj tk kisi imam, tabaee ko bura bhala nahi kaha na hum nay unhain bhatka hua kaha hum un say pyar kartay hain wo hamaray salaf main say hain aur jo un say bughuz rakhay hum bhi un say bughuz rakhtay hain. Lekin bhai koi kitna bhi naik ho perfect nahi ho sakta ya nabi pbuh k barabar nahi ho sakta ittaba tu hamain Allah k nabi pbuh hi ki karni hai aur ulema hamain wo rasta dikhatay hain jo nabi pbuh say ja kar milta hai, so simple si baat hai tamam masail ka hal quran aur hadith main pinha hai agar aap nahi dhond saktay tu ulema say madad li jiay lekin reference k sath :)

yar ap logon k dimag me ye baat bitha di gai ha k aimma nabi sallaho alehe wassalam k khilaf masla batate hain. ye baat zehen se nikalo ge to samjo ge. tamam aima quran hadith sahaba k aqwal o amal se hi masail nikalte hain aur batate hain. ahle sunnah wa jamaah quran o sunnah ki roshni me ak ki itteba krte hain aur dosron ka ahtaram krte hain.

 

[onlykami]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

Zakir Naik always make things very simple, i love him but i did not blind follow him :)

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

Re: Namaz-e-Taraweeh..

Bhai Ghair Muqalideen Ya APny Apko Salfi Or Ahlehadith kehalwanay Walay
Jitny Bhi Firqay Yahan Hain Wo AKhri Bar In dalail ko deakh layin ..


esko ahl-e-sunnat wal jamat ki tarf say hujjat tamam sumhaj layin..

angrayz 30kia 300 mazeed firqay bhi sahi hadith k naam pay bana day tu bhi InshahAllah
Haram Shareef samet dunya bhar main 20rakat taraweeh parhny say musalmano ko nahi rok payga InshahALllah