"City of 333 Saints" Timbuktu... No more.

[hans]

Mali's Taliban destroy Timbuktu religious treasures

BAMAKO Hardline Islamists(Taliban) occupying northern Mali went on the rampage in Timbuktu on Saturday, destroying ancient tombs of Muslim saints and threatening to wipe out every religious shrine in the fabled city.


The onslaught by armed militants from the fundamentalist Ansar Dine group was launched just two days after UNESCO named the city an endangered world heritage site because of the unrest in the vast desert north of Mali.

"They have raped Timbuktu today. It is a crime," said a source close to a local imam in the town known as the "City of 333 Saints".

Witnesses said the Islamists had destroyed the ancient tomb of one revered Muslim figure after encircling a cemetery in the north of the Timbuktu, and were on the attack against another in the east.


"This is tragic news for us all," Alissandra Cummins, chair of UNESCO's executive committee, said in a statement to AFP in Russia, where the body is meeting this week, describing the attacks as "wanton damage".


"I appeal to all those engaged in the conflict in Timbuktu to exercise their responsibility."
Ansar Dine, one of the hardline Islamist groups which seized control of the vast desert north of Mali in the chaotic aftermath of a March coup in Bamako, said no site would be safe in Timbuktu.
"Ansar Dine will today destroy every mausoleum in the city. All of them, without exception," spokesman Sanda Ould Boumama told AFP through an interpreter from the city.
The Ansar Dine spokesman suggested Saturday's action was in retaliation for the UNESCO decision to put the World Heritage site, a cradle of Islamic learning founded in the fifth century, on its endangered list on Thursday

Source:http://news.msn.co.nz/worldnews/8492149/islamists-destroy-timbuktu-treasures



Unique manuscripts have been conserved for centuries in Timbuktu, a scholarly city of 333 saints, where practically every household is a heritage site, a library,

The origins of Timbuktu - the name is believed to derive from the words Tin-Boctou (meaning the place or well of Boctou, a local woman) - date back to the 5th century.
The site is on an old Saharan trading route that saw salt from the Arab north exchanged for gold and slaves from black Africa to the south, blossomed in a 16th century Golden Age as an Islamic seat of learning, home to priests, scribes and jurists.

 

[Mojo-jojo]

We should not lament about these things now. Our societies have been breeding these elements and attitudes for a while and now we are witnessing the consequences. A simple example is this website itself -- how many threads and postings are about religion and a very narrow and distorted view of it.

 

[alimohsan52]

Aulia Allah spread Islam and the tauheed with love. These hardliners have no respect for anyone and they have zero loyalty towards Pakistan. However, the thread starter is an MQM tout, a party which does not respect any human life and has murdered many innocent people. MQM is worse than hardliners.

 

[Mullah Omar]

There is no mention of Taliban in the link you provided.

 

[muslim01]

hans is an indian. He is a huge fitna just like Mr. Parwaiz

 

[Hathamreborn]

this country is in west africa, who come talibans be there???

 

[barca]

Washington Report
Hindu Extremists Now Focusing Violence Against India's Christians

By M.M. Ali

March 1999, page 52

The recent physical attacks on members of the Christian minority and the burning down of scores of churches in the state of Gujarat and other parts of India reflect the gospel of hatred on which the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and its religious coalition partners are based. The otherwise staid and respected English language daily Times of India observed that after having targeted the Muslims and the Sikhs for a long time, Hindus have now turned toward the small, unprotected minority of Indian Christians.

BJP's extensions, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), the Rashtriya Sewak Sangh (RSS) and Bajrang Dal, have openly incited their rank-and-file to demolish all vestiges of Christianity from India. The atmosphere of fear and hatred against Muslims whipped up at the time of the destruction of the Babri mosque in 1992, and against Sikhs in Delhi following the assassination of Indira Gandhi in 1984, now is focused on Indian Christians.

The establishment throughout India of Hindutva-land of the Hindus alone-is the objective of all of the right-wing Hindu religious parties that exist under the BJP umbrella. It is their declared policy to use all means, including violence, to reach that end.

Support for secularism comes only from a modest, educated, urban fringe. Recent events have shown that such voices of sanity are muted and drowned in a rising wave of Hindu fundamentalism that is sweeping India today.

Christians are a mere 26 million in a population of almost a billion, and they are scattered all over the country, particularly in remote villages and tribal areas. They do not constitute a force of any kind, and are traditionally peaceful and friendly people.

India's dominant Hindu society is laden with class and caste distinctions. A small segment, the Brahmins, remain at the top. A vast majority, the Sudras, form the bottom that traditionally was considered "untouchable." Through the centuries they have been treated as less than human.

In the past 200 years, some from this bottom tier have converted to Christianity. Hindus today accuse Christian missionaries of forcibly converting Hindus to Christianity. Such charges obscure the truth. It is the level of humanity and tolerance that draws people toward a dogma or a doctrine, just as discrimination and hatred turn them away.

It is being argued that Hindu extremists, after encountering effective resistance from the Sikhs and the Muslims, have turned on a softer target-the Christians. In fact, this is only partially true. No minority is safe in the BJP's India.

Political analysts attribute the upsurge in anti-Christian ire to the fact that Congress leader Sonia Gandhi, who has recently become politically active in her role as highly respected widow of assassinated Congress leader Rajiv Gandhi, happens to be a Roman Catholic from Italy. The anti-Christian argument is that if the Congress Party returns to power, Christians will receive undue patronage from the government. This charge may instill fear among the uneducated masses, but it does not make any political sense.

By the same token, misgivings are being expressed by some Indians about the motives for awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to the late Mother Teresa and this year's Nobel Prize for Economics to Amritya Sen, both of whom are Christians. For that matter, one might wonder why current Indian Defense Minister George Fernandez, a Christian, is unable to hold back the BJP goons?

The real issue, however, is that now that a Hindu party has come to power, some Hindu extremists have ambitions of re-converting the Muslims, the Sikhs and the Christians of India to Hinduism. Minorities in India should be braced for more to come under BJP governments, which have little sympathy for the secularism of India.

Prof. M.M. Ali is a consultant and a fellow with The Center for Planning & Policy Studies in the Washington, DC area.

 

[barca]

This section deals with Hindutva. The term Hindutva was first coined in the late 1800's by Hindu nationalists in India who preferred to call their religion with an indigenous Indian name, it means "Hinduness". Unfortunately, this term in the modern era has come to exclusively describe Hindu religious fanatics such as groups like Shiv Sena and Bajrang Dal, this section will refer only to Hindu nationalists, chauvinists, and fanatics as "Hindutva supporters" or "Hindutva fanatics" for the sake of avoiding confusion.​

Hindutva is perceived by intellectuals as a threat to the stability of India due to their increasing influence and their religious fanaticism, a fanaticism which manifested itself in it's most virulent form when the Babri Masjid (Mosque) was demolished by Hindutva fanatics in 1992, justifying their actions on a claim that the Mosque was allegedly built on the site of a temple which supposedly marked the spot where their god Rama was born and was apparently destroyed by the first Mughal Emperor Babar even though this claim originated in the 1800's and has absolutely no supporting evidence.​

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Articles and links on this site will refute Hindutva claims (which also includes the blatantly false claim that the Taj Mahal was a Hindu temple and that Hindus used flying machines 7000 years ago!) and will present the chauvinistic agenda of these people which aims to present a (false) sense of history of Hindu India to the Hindus in order for them to feel pride in their old civilisation and to create a "Hindu Rashtra" (Hindu theocratic state) to restore this "old glory". These claims have had such an affect that communal riots where thousands of people clashed and died have happened between Hindus and other religious minorities in India, most notably the Muslims just because the false sense of history implanted in these people's fanatic minds has stirred up hate for the religious minorities whom these Hindutva fanatics perceive as having had destroyed the Indian civilisations of old.​

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The kind of hatred espoused by these fanatics can be seen when one visits the official site of the Hindutva fanatic group Bajrang Dal at Hinduunity.org. An example of the paranoid, fanatical hate they teach against non-Hindu minorities in India can be seen by this picture of a woman whose image personifies India called Bharot-Mata (Mother India) being attacked by people who personify Islam, Christians, seculars, and "traitor liberals", it alleges that these people are out to destroy India.​

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It must be remembered that these fanatics are not small in number, the hinduunity.org site is the official site of the Bajrang Dal which is the political students wing a of a right-wing Hindutva fascist group called the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), the Banjrang Dal alone (asides from the numerous other Hindu fundamentalist groups) number about 3 million and are trained in armed combat readying themselves against an imagined threat posed by Muslims and other minorities in India who apparently will attempt to destroy the Indian state and wipe out Hinduism some time in the future. They also claim that Christian missionaries are in actual fact Western spies out to cause disruption in Indian society. Their actions and beliefs are fascist in nature. Indeed, many of the early founders of Hindutva did indeed admire fascists like Hitler and Mussolini.​

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In short, Hindutva is a virulently hateful ideology which survives by instilling false grievances amongst the Hindu population against Muslims and other minorities and then nurturing that anger to incite communal riots with the ultimate purpose of cleansing India of non-Hindus [1] [2]. They distort history and invent history to achieve that goal.​

 

[barca]

Police arrest ‘dacoits’, find ‘Hindu extremist bombers’

Five men arrested last week in Patiala on charges of planning a dacoity have confessed to carrying out at least four bombings targeted at Muslims in Haryana in 2009 and 2010, police in Haryana and Punjab said today.
The men allegedly belong to a Hindu extremist group called Azad Sangathan, headed by a Jind resident called Azad, also known as Sagar and Kala. Azad was arrested along with his comrades Praveen Sharma, Ram Niwas, Gurnam Singh and Rakesh Kumar at Shambhu barrier in Patiala. All are in Haryana Police custody.
“They have told interrogators that they wanted to spread terror among Muslims and chose Muslim targets for their attacks,” Inspector Rohtash Singh, station house officer of Jind city police station, who is investigating the attacks, said. “They chose a madrasa and a meat factory in Jind district, and a mosque in Mehlab village of Mewat district. They wanted to target Muslim buildings.”
Jind superintendent of police Ashok Kumar said, “So far they have confessed to carrying out blasts at four places. It is a sensitive matter. We are not in a position to divulge many details.”
The Jind-Mewat area was rocked by a series of apparently unexplained blasts in 2009-10. Apart from a madrasa and meat factory, bombs went off in Nuh in Mewat and Safidon in Jind. All were low intensity explosions in which no one was killed, police said. Haryana Police have been treating the madrasa blast, which took place in October 2009, as triggered by a leaking septic tank
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/police-arrest-dacoits-find-hindu-extremist-bombers/914713/

 

[Scorpion]

There is no mention of Taliban in the link you provided.

Mention of Taliban is the result of a Shite brain . . . .

 

[Scorpion]

Allah ka Rasool (SA) ka Hukum pura kurnay pur Timaktu ka Mujahideen ko Salute . . . . Peeri, Muridee ma jukray aalumay Islam ko isi tara in business chilanay waaloun sa nijat dilai ja sakti hai . . . .


Aulia ki shan ma sun sa bari gustakhi ya hai ka in ki qabroun ko Sijdah gah baba lia jai . . . . Wahan juay ka adday chilai jain . . . . Prostitution or larkioun ko baichnay ka karobaar kia jai . . . . Sharab pee kur naacha jai . . . . Or Aurutoun or Murdoun ka makhloot ijtama karwaya jai . . . .


Or phir is sub ko Islam kaha jai . . . .

 

[hans]

Sir jeeeee it looks like I am progressing .. Now I am a Shia Brain, a few weeks back I was a Hindu RAW Agent.
Come on guys, give me a break..... chose between Shia or RAW Agent.

I will give you Taliban a break, leave Pakistan for good, and I be what ever you want. Agree?

Mention of Taliban is the result of a Shite brain . . . .

 

[Star Gazer]

Police arrest ‘dacoits’, find ‘Hindu extremist bombers’

Five men arrested last week in Patiala on charges of planning a dacoity have confessed to carrying out at least four bombings targeted at Muslims in Haryana in 2009 and 2010, police in Haryana and Punjab said today.
The men allegedly belong to a Hindu extremist group called Azad Sangathan, headed by a Jind resident called Azad, also known as Sagar and Kala. Azad was arrested along with his comrades Praveen Sharma, Ram Niwas, Gurnam Singh and Rakesh Kumar at Shambhu barrier in Patiala. All are in Haryana Police custody.
“They have told interrogators that they wanted to spread terror among Muslims and chose Muslim targets for their attacks,” Inspector Rohtash Singh, station house officer of Jind city police station, who is investigating the attacks, said. “They chose a madrasa and a meat factory in Jind district, and a mosque in Mehlab village of Mewat district. They wanted to target Muslim buildings.”
Jind superintendent of police Ashok Kumar said, “So far they have confessed to carrying out blasts at four places. It is a sensitive matter. We are not in a position to divulge many details.”
The Jind-Mewat area was rocked by a series of apparently unexplained blasts in 2009-10. Apart from a madrasa and meat factory, bombs went off in Nuh in Mewat and Safidon in Jind. All were low intensity explosions in which no one was killed, police said. Haryana Police have been treating the madrasa blast, which took place in October 2009, as triggered by a leaking septic tank
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/police-arrest-dacoits-find-hindu-extremist-bombers/914713/

You should post it as new thread! and title it, Police arrest Hindu Terrorist in Haryana. Confessed to killing of Muslims in India!

 

[only_truths]

blast, triggered by a leaking septic tank

LOL""" these guys need training across the border, still trying to trigger a blast by leaking septic tank ????????
[MENTION=8742]Star Gazer[/MENTION] - do you still want a separate thread for blast by a leaking septic tank?

 

[Scorpion]

Sir jeeeee it looks like I am progressing .. Now I am a Shia Brain, a few weeks back I was a Hindu RAW Agent.
Come on guys, give me a break..... chose between Shia or RAW Agent.

I will give you Taliban a break, leave Pakistan for good, and I be what ever you want. Agree?

Have I ever declared you a RAW Agent . . . . In fact on many threads I ve supported you . . . .

It is you yourself is responsible . . . . As the word Taliban was used where you know very well that they don t have any relations to the Taliban . . . . Next time take care and I will not brand you as such . . . .

Rest I and Taliban are here to stay . . . . The earlier you and your Army realise this fact and it will be better . . . . However, denying this fact will only put this nation to more bloodshed and a civil war . . . . Which is what I hated most . . . . Better stop this USA's war for terror, and stop the Genocide in FATA, Swat, Baluchistan . . . . And reaction will also stop . . . .

 

[desicad]

three back to back posts by barca to counter the first post......(hmm)..........wonder why this fierce retaliation when there is no Indian angle to the news and also the thread starter is not an Indian?.........:)

 

[hans]

I am very sorry, but let me tell you one thing very clearly.....Taliban are not Muslims, they are simply killers. Nothing to do with Sunni Fiqh, Or main stream Islam.
Kafir will stay a Kafir, and a Hyprocite will always attck the weakest of the Chain.

There is a diffrence between Taliban and Muslim Brotherhood for example in Egypt. Its time we kicked Taliban idiology and revoke Pakistani Citizenship.

I use the word Taliban to subjugate set of People, who support set of ugly and wild Principles. People who opposes democratic society as well as Constitutional law of countries. For example I refer Boko Haram as Taliban too.

 

[dahashatkush]

Allah ka Rasool (SA) ka Hukum pura kurnay pur Timaktu ka Mujahideen ko Salute . . . . Peeri, Muridee ma jukray aalumay Islam ko isi tara in business chilanay waaloun sa nijat dilai ja sakti hai . . . .


Aulia ki shan ma sun sa bari gustakhi ya hai ka in ki qabroun ko Sijdah gah baba lia jai . . . . Wahan juay ka adday chilai jain . . . . Prostitution or larkioun ko baichnay ka karobaar kia jai . . . . Sharab pee kur naacha jai . . . . Or Aurutoun or Murdoun ka makhloot ijtama karwaya jai . . . .


Or phir is sub ko Islam kaha jai . . . .

aur sabse badi baat yeh hai ki kabra tode ya ghar phoonke apna phoonkange, qatl kare to musalmano ka karenge doosaro ke baap ka kya jaata hai.

 

[dahashatkush]

three back to back posts by barca to counter the first post......(hmm)..........wonder why this fierce retaliation when there is no Indian angle to the news and also the thread starter is not an Indian?.........:)

usako dard bhi indian angle se hota hai ,i mean angle se hota hai

 

[onlykami]

Mali's Taliban destroy Timbuktu religious treasures

BAMAKO — Hardline Islamists(Taliban) occupying northern Mali went on the rampage in Timbuktu on Saturday, destroying ancient tombs of Muslim saints and threatening to wipe out every religious shrine in the fabled city.


The onslaught by armed militants from the fundamentalist Ansar Dine group was launched just two days after UNESCO named the city an endangered world heritage site because of the unrest in the vast desert north of Mali.

"They have raped Timbuktu today. It is a crime," said a source close to a local imam in the town known as the "City of 333 Saints".

Witnesses said the Islamists had destroyed the ancient tomb of one revered Muslim figure after encircling a cemetery in the north of the Timbuktu, and were on the attack against another in the east.


"This is tragic news for us all," Alissandra Cummins, chair of UNESCO's executive committee, said in a statement to AFP in Russia, where the body is meeting this week, describing the attacks as "wanton damage".


"I appeal to all those engaged in the conflict in Timbuktu to exercise their responsibility."
Ansar Dine, one of the hardline Islamist groups which seized control of the vast desert north of Mali in the chaotic aftermath of a March coup in Bamako, said no site would be safe in Timbuktu.
"Ansar Dine will today destroy every mausoleum in the city. All of them, without exception," spokesman Sanda Ould Boumama told AFP through an interpreter from the city.
The Ansar Dine spokesman suggested Saturday's action was in retaliation for the UNESCO decision to put the World Heritage site, a cradle of Islamic learning founded in the fifth century, on its endangered list on Thursday

Source:http://news.msn.co.nz/worldnews/8492149/islamists-destroy-timbuktu-treasures



Unique manuscripts have been conserved for centuries in Timbuktu, a scholarly city of 333 saints, where practically every household is a heritage site, a library,

The origins of Timbuktu - the name is believed to derive from the words Tin-Boctou (meaning the place or well of Boctou, a local woman) - date back to the 5th century.
The site is on an old Saharan trading route that saw salt from the Arab north exchanged for gold and slaves from black Africa to the south, blossomed in a 16th century Golden Age as an Islamic seat of learning, home to priests, scribes and jurists.