Check the security of Bilawal Bhutto

[hamzabaloch]

The Young and Brave Bhagat Singh of Saroop Ijaz

It is a well known fact that Pakistani liberals(aka Fake Liberals) are more than extra anti Imran and more than extra Pro-PPP.

Here is one example of Saroop Ijaz love for Bilawal Bhuto Zerdari. He wrote a blog a on Bilawal Bhuto Speech and compare him even with Bhagat Singh and also crticize Imran Khan for not condemning Malala attackers like the brave bilawal:

But Mr Saroop Ijaz, did not mentioned that brave Bilawal Bhuto Zerdari gave this speech behind the bullet proof Mirror, and Imran Khan do jalsas with out such brave acts:

Mr Saroop Ijaz also did not mentioned that Bilawal move with 33 Vehicles in which more than half are for his security.While Imran move within his people without any security.

Mr Saroop Ijaz praise Bilawal for openly condemning Malala Killers, but he not only did not mentioned that Bilawal that statement was taken back, but Saroop also try to prove that for him words speak louder than actions, as Imran Khan was the first leader who visited Malala hospital .

Mr Saroop Ijaz also did not mentioned that the ruling party duty is to do actions, not give hollow statements only. Just because PPP is known is liberal, we can not give them credit for their statements over their Zero actions in stopping the terrorism . Yes, Zero action, As Bilawal himself mentioned that same forces who killed Benzir also killed Blour than what his government did in Four years, in stopping the same & known forces ??

Saroop Ijaz may gave his vote to PPP, but I will not even think of this till Bilawal or Zardari visit Waziristan, Quetta or Karachi streets(even with security).

Bilawal first visit these areas, than Mr Saroop will have this right to question that who is more brave, bilawal or Imran Khan.

 

[hamzabaloch]

Re: The Young and Brave Bhagat Singh of Saroop Ijaz

http://blogs4pti.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-young-and-brave-bhagat-singh-of-saroop-ijaz/

 

[jeaybhutto]

hmmm, PPP and Bilawal, unlike PTI and IK and PML and NS, are not on the "good" side of the taliban...Bilawal doesnot say on live TV that I cannot speak against TTP because I am scared (IK) for party workers....

PPP and other moderate parties are at war with TTP...Hence, the security is a requirement....

GA Bhutto

 

[Umair King]

Yes you are so right in your observation that these Fake Liberals are so so very much Pro PPP.
Not only Saroop Ijaz but also Raza Rumi, Beena Sarwar, Nadeem F Paracha and many more; are merely slaves of Bhuttos name.
I dont know why these people even after getting education still support the corrupt and shameless PPP.
Just imagine guys if Imran Khan comes into power then what these fake liberals are going to do.

 

[UKPakistani]

hmmm, PPP and Bilawal, unlike PTI and IK and PML and NS, are not on the "good" side of the taliban...Bilawal doesnot say on live TV that I cannot speak against TTP because I am scared (IK) for party workers....

PPP and other moderate parties are at war with TTP...Hence, the security is a requirement....

GA Bhutto

Allah Na Karay

Your entire post proves that Bilawal has NO FAITH WHATSOEVER in ALLAH and the way the Almighty works. When it is his time to go, he will DIE whether he is in a nuclear bunker or totally without security in London with his boyfriend........ not a second before or after

 

[jeaybhutto]

hmmm, PPP and Bilawal, unlike PTI and IK and PML and NS, are not on the "good" side of the taliban...Bilawal doesnot say on live TV that I cannot speak against TTP because I am scared (IK) for party workers....

PPP and other moderate parties are at war with TTP...Hence, the security is a requirement....

GA Bhutto[/QUOTE]

Allah Na Karay

Your entire post proves that Bilawal has NO FAITH WHATSOEVER in ALLAH and the way the Almighty works. When it is his time to go, he will DIE whether he is in a nuclear bunker or totally without security in London with his boyfriend........ not a second before or after

The time for death will be decided by Allah, no harm in being careful....and maybe this logic should be put to IK so that he comes out of his "dreamy" policy with respect to TTP!

 

[zhohaq]

Bilawal and his "Jiyalas"..
Fish are the Jiyalas..In time they will be ground up and fed to him on a silver platter..

Do you know how many so called Jialas pathetically committed suicide just to attract the momentary attention
of their uncaring leader....
How many poor working class Jialas from Lyari unnecessarily were killed forming a macabre human shield around Benazirs Bomb proof truck. While Rehman Malik,Aitizaz and Babar Awan enjoy the fruits of kleptocracy.


Human sacrifice of useful idiots is what keeps the PPP death cult alive...

And it is a cult. If Bilawal ever came into the fish tank his English sensibilities would be aghast.
But in time he will take pleasure in it, and have a good laugh at the expense of his acolytes, and thank his lucky stars for his good fortune.

In his mind he is living in Rudyard Kiplings Oriental adventure novel "The Man who would be king".

Just Like Dany Dravot He has descended on Kafiristan and convinced the natives he is a living god.
I can only vainly hope the Kafirs some day see he is a mere mortal and throw him and the other parasites over the closest gorge.His crowned head preserved as a gory token to remind everyone of the insanity of a time passed.

This is what passes for democracy..

Commemoration or deification? Pakistanis honor 'martyred queen' Benazir Bhutto - World News

'Modern political goddess'
"[During the] last five years, the death anniversary of Bhutto has turned out to be a bigger event than many actual mainstream religious events across Pakistan," said Rumi, the policy analyst.[HI] "That's phenomenal politics. The invocation of Sufi legends with a modern political goddess have altered the spiritual consciousness of the rural population."
[/HI][HI]

"The legends and myths of famous Muslim sacrifices through the centuries [HI]have set the parameter for this religious/magical/political framework that now dominates her narrative[/HI]," he said.

At last week's rally, the smell of hashish and whiskey whiffed from dark corners, mixing exotically with the aroma of the langar, a makeshift community cafeteria designed to feed thousands. [/HI]But it was the combination of mysticism and politics that make the growing movement surrounding the Bhutto legacy unique.

[HI]Dilawar, 28, and Samina, 20, who had trekked from neighboring Dadu with their 2-year-old child, swore about the magical powers of “Bibi Shaheed,”[/HI] which translates from Urdu as “Martyred Lady.”[HI]“It was this annual ziarat and dua (pilgrimage and prayers) to her grave that made our baby come into the world. Our conditions got better. That’s why we com[HI]e every year,” [/HI]Dilawar told NBC News.

“I’m here because the ‘martyred queen’ was there for us,”[/HI] said Mustafa, a police officer from Bhutto’s nearby hometown of Larkana who volunteered to oversee security during a [HI]rally last week at a massive Bhutto mausoleum, a modern rendition of the Taj Mahal[/HI].

 

[gotti]

Bilawal and his "Jiyalas"..
Fish are the Jiyalas..In time they will be ground up and fed to him on a silver platter..

Do you know how many so called Jialas pathetically committed suicide just to attract the momentary attention
of their uncaring leader....
How many poor working class Jialas from Lyari unnecessarily were killed forming a macabre human shield around Benazirs Bomb proof truck. While Rehman Malik,Aitizaz and Babar Awan enjoy the fruits of kleptocracy.


Human sacrifice of useful idiots is what keeps the PPP death cult alive...

And it is a cult. If Bilawal ever came into the fish tank his English sensibilities would be aghast.
But in time he will take pleasure in it, and have a good laugh at the expense of his acolytes, and thank his lucky stars for his good fortune.

In his mind he is living in Rudyard Kiplings Oriental adventure novel "The Man who would be king".

Just Like Dany Dravot He has descended on Kafiristan and convinced the natives he is a living god.
I can only vainly hope the Kafirs some day see he is a mere mortal and throw him and the other parasites over the closest gorge.His crowned head preserved as a gory token to remind everyone of the insanity of a time passed.

This is what passes for democracy..

Commemoration or deification? Pakistanis honor 'martyred queen' Benazir Bhutto - World News

Well, well, well...

Someone here is well-read!

Pulling out a Kipling reference for a Brit (clap)

Personally, I would've gone with the White Man's Burden but that was a great reference nonetheless (couldn't help but notice the reference to the specific book and the author. You probably made it because of your interest in "cults"?).

Also, especially, since that was the topic you were talking about, may be thats what clicked in your mind, immediately?

But I am still left to wonder, why did this specific "cult" come to mind and not a different one - you know which one I am talking about - the one that Sir Syed, Nehru's dad and the Nawabs (Saif's grandfather) were a part of.

BTW, I usually don't bother responding to something unless there's a point to be made or a discussion to be had but I don't come across people who just like to "read", plain and simple, so I was forced.

Most folks here on this site and in general are 9 o'clock news, YouTube or Google everything scholars.

So you get my applause (for whatever it's worth) (clap)

Now that we've established you're a scholar, the jury is still out on whether you're a gentleman;)

You can prove that you are if you tell me why (bigsmile)

No, I am sure you're a gentleman (although, I'll remain skeptical till I get a convincing response:P)

 

[zhohaq]

Well, well, well...

Someone here is well-read!

Pulling out a Kipling reference for a Brit (clap)

Personally, I would've gone with the White Man's Burden but that was a great reference nonetheless (couldn't help but notice the reference to the specific book and the author. You probably made it because of your interest in "cults"?).

Also, especially, since that was the topic you were talking about, may be thats what clicked in your mind, immediately?

But I am still left to wonder, why did this specific "cult" come to mind and not a different one - you know which one I am talking about - the one that Sir Syed, Nehru's dad and the Nawabs (Saif's grandfather) were a part of.

BTW, I usually don't bother responding to something unless there's a point to be made or a discussion to be had but I don't come across people who just like to "read", plain and simple, so I was forced.

Most folks here on this site and in general are 9 o'clock news, YouTube or Google everything scholars.

So you get my applause (for whatever it's worth) (clap)

Now that we've established you're a scholar, the jury is still out on whether you're a gentleman;)

You can prove that you are if you tell me why (bigsmile)

No, I am sure you're a gentleman (although, I'll remain skeptical till I get a convincing response:P)

Gotti sahab rest of us are just trying to keep up.;)
Still am digesting your last night posts on the sphinx Tahir ul Qadri.
I was nodding along some parts and shaking my head at other parts.
But that is for another post.


"White mans burden" is also Kipling ,a warning to the then infant Pax Americana.
Does it apply to the young Bilawal? in the sense as a warning by Kipling to the native Brown sahab left to rule on what was once the Bristish Raj? I suppose it does.

Good advice probably wasted on the likes of Bilawal unfortunately.

Take up the White Man's burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!
Internet History Sourcebooks

And the "cult" you pointed out. The mother of all cults, I know little about unfortunately.
The water in the regard is so muddied its hard to separate truth from fiction for the uninitiated.

Same problem I have getting a good handle on early Herzl and Ahad Ham era Zionism.
My father does have quite the story from his student days of when the Lodge in Peshawar was stormed by students and turned into a mosque. But a cult rarely needs offices to function,
I am sure its still hidden in plain view, moving mountains.

I would deeply appreciate a more detailed post by yourself to increase my very limited knowledge.

---

Kipling again did incidentally write a poem I just discovered it seems just to tie up this post.
Coincidence?(omg)


The Mother-Lodge

There was Rundle, Station Master,
An' Beazeley of the Rail,
An' 'Ackman, Commissariat,
An' Donkin' o' the Jail;
An' Blake, Conductor-Sargent,
Our Master twice was 'e,
With 'im that kept the Europe-shop,
Old Framjee Eduljee.

Outside — "Sergeant! Sir! Salute! Salaam!"
Inside — "Brother", an' it doesn't do no 'arm.
We met upon the Level an' we parted on the Square,
An' I was Junior Deacon in my Mother-Lodge out there!

We'd Bola Nath, Accountant,
An' Saul the Aden Jew,
An' Din Mohammed, draughtsman
Of the Survey Office too;
There was Babu Chuckerbutty,
An' Amir Singh the Sikh,
An' Castro from the fittin'-sheds,
The Roman Catholick!

We 'adn't good regalia,
An' our Lodge was old an' bare,
But we knew the Ancient Landmarks,
An' we kep' 'em to a hair;
An' lookin' on it backwards
It often strikes me thus,
There ain't such things as infidels,
Excep', per'aps, it's us.

For monthly, after Labour,
We'd all sit down and smoke
(We dursn't give no banquits,
Lest a Brother's caste were broke),
An' man on man got talkin'
Religion an' the rest,
An' every man comparin'
Of the God 'e knew the best.

So man on man got talkin',
An' not a Brother stirred
Till mornin' waked the parrots
An' that dam' brain-fever-bird;
We'd say 'twas 'ighly curious,
An' we'd all ride 'ome to bed,
With Mo'ammed, God, an' Shiva
Changin' pickets in our 'ead.

Full oft on Guv'ment service
This rovin' foot 'ath pressed,
An' bore fraternal greetin's
To the Lodges east an' west,
Accordin' as commanded
From Kohat to Singapore,
But I wish that I might see them
In my Mother-Lodge once more!

I wish that I might see them,
My Brethren black an' brown,
With the trichies smellin' pleasant
An' the hog-darn passin' down;
An' the old khansamah snorin'
On the bottle-khana floor,
Like a Master in good standing
With my Mother-Lodge once more!

Outside — "Sergeant! Sir! Salute! Salaam!"
Inside — "Brother", an' it doesn't do no 'arm.
We met upon the Level an' we parted on the Square,
An' I was Junior Deacon in my Mother-Lodge out there!

Brother Kipling, Mark Master of the Lahore Lodge

 

[staray khaatir]

Allah Na Karay

Your entire post proves that Bilawal has NO FAITH WHATSOEVER in ALLAH and the way the Almighty works. When it is his time to go, he will DIE whether he is in a nuclear bunker or totally without security [HI]in London with his boyfriend.....[/HI]... not a second before or after

:13::13::13::13:

 

[zubair1234]

awam k numainde my foot

 

[behzadji]

bulbul ka bacha....khata tha awam ko....ik din abbay kay saath..... baitha hua tha......main nay uraya(shooted).....uss ka abba bhi bhagaya

 

[gotti]

Gotti sahab rest of us are just trying to keep up.;)
Still am digesting your last night posts on the sphinx Tahir ul Qadri.
I was nodding along some parts and shaking my head at other parts.
But that is for another post.


"White mans burden" is also Kipling ,a warning to the then infant Pax Americana.
Does it apply to the young Bilawal? in the sense as a warning by Kipling to the native Brown sahab left to rule on what was once the Bristish Raj? I suppose it does.

Good advice probably wasted on the likes of Bilawal unfortunately.

Take up the White Man's burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!
Internet History Sourcebooks

And the "cult" you pointed out. The mother of all cults, I know little about unfortunately.
The water in the regard is so muddied its hard to separate truth from fiction for the uninitiated.

Same problem I have getting a good handle on early Herzl and Ahad Ham era Zionism.
My father does have quite the story from his student days of when the Lodge in Peshawar was stormed by students and turned into a mosque. But a cult rarely needs offices to function,
I am sure its still hidden in plain view, moving mountains.

I would deeply appreciate a more detailed post by yourself to increase my very limited knowledge.

---

Kipling again did incidentally write a poem I just discovered it seems just to tie up this post.
Coincidence?(omg)


The Mother-Lodge

There was Rundle, Station Master,
An' Beazeley of the Rail,
An' 'Ackman, Commissariat,
An' Donkin' o' the Jail;
An' Blake, Conductor-Sargent,
Our Master twice was 'e,
With 'im that kept the Europe-shop,
Old Framjee Eduljee.

Outside — "Sergeant! Sir! Salute! Salaam!"
Inside — "Brother", an' it doesn't do no 'arm.
We met upon the Level an' we parted on the Square,
An' I was Junior Deacon in my Mother-Lodge out there!

We'd Bola Nath, Accountant,
An' Saul the Aden Jew,
An' Din Mohammed, draughtsman
Of the Survey Office too;
There was Babu Chuckerbutty,
An' Amir Singh the Sikh,
An' Castro from the fittin'-sheds,
The Roman Catholick!

We 'adn't good regalia,
An' our Lodge was old an' bare,
But we knew the Ancient Landmarks,
An' we kep' 'em to a hair;
An' lookin' on it backwards
It often strikes me thus,
There ain't such things as infidels,
Excep', per'aps, it's us.

For monthly, after Labour,
We'd all sit down and smoke
(We dursn't give no banquits,
Lest a Brother's caste were broke),
An' man on man got talkin'
Religion an' the rest,
An' every man comparin'
Of the God 'e knew the best.

So man on man got talkin',
An' not a Brother stirred
Till mornin' waked the parrots
An' that dam' brain-fever-bird;
We'd say 'twas 'ighly curious,
An' we'd all ride 'ome to bed,
With Mo'ammed, God, an' Shiva
Changin' pickets in our 'ead.

Full oft on Guv'ment service
This rovin' foot 'ath pressed,
An' bore fraternal greetin's
To the Lodges east an' west,
Accordin' as commanded
From Kohat to Singapore,
But I wish that I might see them
In my Mother-Lodge once more!

I wish that I might see them,
My Brethren black an' brown,
With the trichies smellin' pleasant
An' the hog-darn passin' down;
An' the old khansamah snorin'
On the bottle-khana floor,
Like a Master in good standing
With my Mother-Lodge once more!

Outside — "Sergeant! Sir! Salute! Salaam!"
Inside — "Brother", an' it doesn't do no 'arm.
We met upon the Level an' we parted on the Square,
An' I was Junior Deacon in my Mother-Lodge out there!

Brother Kipling, Mark Master of the Lahore Lodge

Just wanted to know if you were aware about (if not, then, bring your attention to) the poem you quoted last and the underlying theme of the "Kafiristan" story

Watch the movie inspired by it with Connery, you'll kind of get what I was trying to get at in that regard ;)

The "White Man's Burden" was that Kipling felt it was the White Man's burden to fix the people of the third world, it was a poem written in the favor of colonialism, if I am not mistaken and brought forth subsequent versions of it by ex-slaves or anti-slave activist working for abolition. Even Native Americans had a go at Kipling for that poem. If am not mistaken, it was in favor of American colonialism in Philippines but I am just talking out of my a$s so you're welcome to add, edit or correct me on this.

I never cared for Kipling though, hated Jungle book but like the fact that he believes animals can raise human beings. I wonder if that's what happened with the Bhutto family vis-a-vis Bilawal but then again, we don't know the gender of the parents considering the changing of his last names, so it is possible as I am not aware of how animals deal with the whole naming thing.

BTW, is it the first time in human history the boy took the mother's name? Wait, the last time was with the Messiah, commonly known as Jesus - is he our Messiah - nauzobillah, can't even allude to him as that, as a joke.

BTW, if your kids enjoyed the Jungle Book cartoon, you don't need to worry because I am sure they won't get caught up into the whole brotherhood facade. Or will they? Bears, Lions (Sher Khan) and wolves with a human (possibly Kipling) all getting along and in peace with each other?

I don't read too much into these things - after all, I live in the real world - why couldn't Kipling do the same? He would have to now, given that the White Man's burden is now being shared by the lesser, coloured folks who are finally capable of washing dishes (and their hands, too).

I related it to Bilawal because these people feel it's their burden to help the "worthless" people of the third world (their constituents) and help them or do things for them as they are obviously incapable of doing the same for themselves. Thus, the reason to maintain their status as "riyayah" and keep them ignorant, uneducated and backwards, while they live the life of luxury, have palaces and world-class education, abroad.

With regard to the Qadri comment, I would appreciate your point by point input and anything you feel I was wrong in as a reply so I can get "notified" and I can reply with ease.

It seems I got the Zardari connection right with the Talpur and Jatoi kid and the other side being Gabol but I am sure you read that (if not, go fish (bigsmile) - I can't find it as there are about 50 battles that need to be fought - also, I was never taught how to fish, I just deal with it, one fish at a time)

Happy Fishing!

PS. I fight with words, not Trishuls (yes, it's Indians this time, specifically, Hindutva extremists).

EDIT: Forgot I had to follow up on the "gentleman" comment. So, you know, you replied. What can I say? I concede: You're a scholar and a ... wait for it ... here it comes...and a ... Gentleman! (bigsmile)