Breaking: Obama decides to seek authorization from Congress for military action against Syria

Bani Adam

Senator (1k+ posts)
AJELive @AJELive President #Obama says he will seek authorisation of use of force against #Syria from Congress. http://aje.me/live

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US President Barack #Obama says he has decided to seek authorization for use of force against #Syria from congress.

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US President Barack #Obama says he has decided the US should take military action against #Assad regime. #Syria

Obama to seek authorisation from Congress on Syria air strikes

There will be a debate and a vote "as soon as Congress comes back into session", Obama says.

He says he is "confident" that he has the authority to launch strikes without that authorisation, but says the decision will be stronger with it.

He says the US is primed to strike on Syria.

"The chairman of the joint chiefs has informed me that we are prepared to strike whenever we choose."

Obama says the chairman has informed him that the military is ready for his order. He says strikes "will be effective tomorrow, next week or one month from now".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/middle-east-live/2013/aug/31/syria-usforeignpolicy
 
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sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Obama said that he believes that he has authority to attack Syria as Commander in-Chief but he will seek congressional vote on this matter. But question is what happens if Congress votes against the attack. Desertation by UK in the middle of the crisis was a real blow to Obama. He felt very lonely and very isolated today.

 
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Bani Adam

Senator (1k+ posts)
Obama said that he believes that he has authority to attack Syria as Commander in-Chief but he will seek congressional vote on this matter. But question is what happens if Congress vote against the attack. Desertation by UK in the middle of crisis was a real blow to Obama. He felt very lonely and very isolated today.

yea, BO ducked that question, shouted by a reporter on what happens if Congress votes against.... things getting complicated
 

tudywala

Minister (2k+ posts)
its same ploy what brits played in theior commons go kam na kerna hoo wo parliment key khatey main dal do yeh hi kam UK main howa that abb congress krey gi in other words barak hussain obama is backing off from war not surprise at all ,if he wants to do limited strikes he can do it its own he does not authorization its face saving retreat woh gi main to kerna chata tha per congress nahi manee[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]
 
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vote4pti

Minister (2k+ posts)
already decided,planned.....:angry_smile::angry_smile: DEATH TO US:angry_smile:

DEATH TO US:angry_smile:

:P

Yeh tau hona hee tha. "Nwishta e Deewaar" matlab 'writing on the wall'!

Unrest in Egypt is helping their cause already, means Iran is next in line, then Pakistan. Are you ready???

1.5 billions muslims are in sleep-mode, if not, then they r definitely on silent-mode!

Qaum ko sonay doo, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
 
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Bani Adam

Senator (1k+ posts)
It appears that any US action in Syria will be delayed after Obama said he would wait for authorisation from Congress before launching air strikes. The president said he would wait for a debate and a vote on action in Syria, but said he will not call Congress back from recess early. That will seemingly postpone any action until 9 September at the earliest – the date Congress is due back in Washington.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/middle-east-live/2013/aug/31/syria-usforeignpolicy

hhhmmm.... means that someone on this Forum is likely to lose her wager! (omg)
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
yea, BO ducked that question, shouted by a reporter on what happens if Congress votes against.... things getting complicated

They knew he had to go to Congress to get authorization...Make no mistake, Americans have spoken loud and clear, THEY DON'T WANT WW 3!.... It is smart politics by Obama. He is just keeping the pressure up on Assad. He want to get a legal support for future actions. ...this fight is not over!!! Going to Congress is ploy to dump (calm) the situation this time.

Is Assad an Arab hero in the making ?
 

Pak Falcon

Minister (2k+ posts)
haqeeqat ye hai k US ki govt khud eik puppet govt hai jews aur zionist lobby ki. Agar Obama khud se humla karna chahta to bohot pehle ka faisla kar leta obama humla nhi karna chahta aur na he america ki awam chahti hai lekin Israel aur Zionists chahte hain jo asal maalik hain US k!
 

Bani Adam

Senator (1k+ posts)
They knew he had to go to Congress to get authorization...Make no mistake, Americans have spoken loud and clear, THEY DON'T WANT WW 3!.... It is smart politics by Obama. He is just keeping the pressure up on Assad. He want to get a legal support for future actions. ...this fight is not over!!! Going to Congress is ploy to dump (calm) the situation this time.

Is Assad an Arab hero in the making ?

To add, besides the well of the public opinion, Fact-check was also in play for the Noble Peace Laureate who had said on Dec 20, 2007 that: "the President does not have the power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve an imminent or actual threat to the nation."

Realpolitik was also in play -- going solo without UK (but along with France) would have been the final epitaph on the demise of the British Empire; so the road has only become a bit more tortuous....

I don't see Assad becoming an Arab hero - he's hanging by the Russian/Iranian supports... but I rather posit that: (a.) the Round-1 of this duel has gone to Iran (on points), (b.) Russia has strongly reasserted itself back into the international stage, and (c.) Saudis and Israels now share increasingly common interests and there will be increased Saudi-Israel collaboration (secret) in the days/months to come, i.e. a new powerful regional superpower-bloc is born.
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

To add, besides the well of the public opinion, Fact-check was also in play for the Noble Peace Laureate who had said on Dec 20, 2007 that: "the President does not have the power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve an imminent or actual threat to the nation."

Realpolitik was also in play -- going solo without UK (but along with France) would have been the final epitaph on the demise of the British Empire; so the road has only become a bit more tortuous....

I don't see Assad becoming an Arab hero - he's hanging by the Russian/Iranian supports... but I rather posit that: (a.) the Round-1 of this duel has gone to Iran (on points), (b.) Russia has strongly reasserted itself back into the international stage, and (c.) Saudis and Israels now share increasingly common interests and there will be increased Saudi-Israel collaboration (secret) in the days/months to come, i.e. a new powerful regional superpower-bloc is born.

Arabs hate jews. I am talking about common Arabs not their Saudi rulers. Hero are born from love of common people. The block you are mentioning is unatural and fairly temporary.
 

Bani Adam

Senator (1k+ posts)
Arabs hate jews. I am talking about common Arabs not their Saudi rulers. Hero are born from love of common people. The block you are mentioning is unatural and fairly temporary.


I see these as two separate issues: (a.) yes, there's likely going to be an increased divide between the rulers and the ruled in these sheikhdoms and kingdoms for a host of reasons - which in itself becomes a ticking timebomb; and (b.) Assad has never had the standing of a popular Arab leader (his father still had some respect); he's already a much loathed person among ordinary Arab households for his oppression and ~100,000 civilians killed in the past 2 years; so I'm doubtful that he could cash this to become the voice of the Arabs -- the Saudis would never let that happen!
 

Faheem Niaz

Senator (1k+ posts)
Obama wants 9/9 BEFORE 9/11, therefore delayed .


seeking authorization from congress is just bullshyte.
 

Niazi Hawk

Minister (2k+ posts)
وقت دعا



جب بغداد تباہ ہوا تو شیخ سعدی نے لکھا کے اس سانحے پے آسمان آنسو بہاے یا رسول الله اگر آپ نے قیمات کے دن اپنے روضہ مبارک سے اٹھنا ہے تو اٹھ جائیں کیوں کے آپ کی امت پے قیمات آ گیی
آج کوئی شیخ سعدی تو نھی کے امت کا درد آقا مصطفیٰ کو بتاے لکین ساتھ ہی سوچ رہا ہوں کے آیا یہ وقت امت کے لیے قیمات ہے کے وہ وقت قیمات تھا کم سے کم اس وقت دوستوں اور دشمنوں کی تمیز تو تھی آج تو وہ بھی نہی
کوئی جائے اور جا کے کعبہ کے متولی کو بتاے کے سرکار دو عالم کا ارشاد ہے کی مسلمان کے خون کی حرمت کعبہ سے زیادہ ہے،آج مصر میں ہزاروں مسلمانو کا خون بہا ہے لکین خادمین حرمین اس شیطان سیسی کی پشت پے ہیں
کوئی جائے اور جا کے حزب اللہ کو بتاے کے وہ سب محبت اور عزت جو اسریل کے خلاف جنگ لڑ کے حاصل کی تھی وہ سب بشار جیسے درندے کی حمایت کر کے کھو دی ایران کا معملا بھی یہی ہے
اگر سعودیہ یہ سمجھتا ہے کی بشار شیطان ہے تو سیسی کو استثنیٰ کیوں .......جو چیز مصر میں حرام ہے وہ شام میں حلال کیسے ہے .......لکین کیا کریں امریکا کا حکم ہے ،ٹال تو نہی سکتے
اب اس بحث میں کیا پڑھنا کے بشارتو مسلمان بھی نہی ....نصیری ہے .......کم سے کم شام میں ہتھیار اٹھانے والے تو مسلمان ہیں ......




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کہیں پڑھا تھا کے فتنوں کے دور میں صحابہ نے تلواریں توڑ دیں .....اسی کتاب میں یہ بھی لکھا تھا کے فتنوں کے دور میں اصحاب کہف کی طرح غاروں میں چپ جانا چاہے ..........تو کیا وہ وقت آ نہی گیا
آخر میں پھر شیخ سعدی کی بات دورہوں گا کی سرکار دو عالم آپ کی امت پے قیمات ا چکی ہے
خاصا خاصان رسل وقت دعا ہے
آ کے تیری امت پے عجب وقت پڑا ہے
 

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