Bottom Line - 23rd February 2013 - 5 years Performance of PPP

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Dr. Ayatullah Durrani PPP, Ahsan Iqbal PML-N and Asad Umar PTI in fresh episode of Bottom Line on Aaj News and talk with Absar Alam.

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[tipupk]

Noon League`s whole so-called leadership cannot face alone Asad Umer.Ahsan Iqbal was counting cities of Punjab just like a bus conductor.

 

[pakistanstube]

What kind of Glasses PTI use when it look to PPP+MQM+(Q) vs Punjab. I think there glassed need to be little cleaning on Punjab side, may be establishment does not like it.
According to Imran Khan Zardari is his leader so no PTI worker allowed to speak against PPP.

 

[Abdulmaalik]

What kind of Glasses PTI use when it look to PPP+MQM+(Q) vs Punjab. I think there glassed need to be little cleaning on Punjab side, may be establishment does not like it.
According to Imran Khan Zardari is his leader so no PTI worker allowed to speak against PPP.

When Imran Khan said that Zardari was his leader? Perhaps, you saw in your dream.However, Nawaz Sharif catagorically said in January 2011, "Zardari sahab! Even if your own party left you, I will be with you".It was the time when MQM divorced PPP for a brief period and Zardari's govt became a minority govt with only 150+ members.Also, Q-league and JUI-F were already in opposition at that time and they all were looking towards PMLN for moving a vote of no-confidence against Yousaf Raza Gilani.Had PMLN gathered all opposition parties at that time, the country would have come out of Zardari's menace and Noon League would have full chance to perform well at federal level for 27 months (Jan 2011-Mar 2013) alongwith their Punjab Govt.If Nawaz didn't trust MQM and/or PMLQ, then why did he take almost all MNAs/MPAs of Q-league over the last one year and why did he thinking to form a grand-alliance(including MQM) against PPP in Sindh for 2013 elections?

As far as your take on the 'good governance of Punjab' is concerned, this perception is due to two reasons.
1.Because Punjab govt is less bad as compared to other three provinces.In my view, Punjab govt is bad (not good) whereas the other three govts are worse.
2.Due to the propaganda machinary of Noon League.It is no secret that majority of print and electronic media is Punjab-based where PMLN has a thirty years of penetration at all level.PMLN has links with media owners,anchors,columnists,editors, news reporters etc.This is the reason that media never called the representatives of the four provinces and aksed them to give their figures of economic growth rate, agricultural growth rate,the revenue collection, borrowing from banks/federation, the education indices , the general law-n-order ( in terms of killing, ransome, robbery, theft etc), the production of energy(electricity and gas) after 18th amendment etc.

Instead of putting PMLN under radar, it was given free hand and all the focus was put on PPP.Even judiciary showed some soft corner for PMLN.I will here give you three examples from judiciary.

1.Indeed, Asghar Khan case was heard and decided after 15 years, but when it came to giving clear verdict against politicians (which includes Nawaz Sharif as well), FIA was ordered to carry-out enquiry.Even I would have satisfied with this verdict if the follow-up of this vedict was done by SC as it did in case of NRO's verdict and Rental Power verdict.It is to be remembered that SC formulated implementation benches to ensure that govt didn't run away from abiding by it.I will go to the extent that even if you find any PTI leader (e.g Javed Hashmi) involved in taking money from ISI, do not spare him.But atleast force FIA to conduct enquiry into the whole matter.

2.Nawaz Sharif and his family is a defaulter of Rs.4.5 Billion since the 90s but that case has not been heard since 1997.This fact is revealed during loan-write-off case that is currently being heard in SC.Why lower court and Lahore High Court didn't not fix that case? If Nawaz Sharif is not guilty, exonerate him and if he is guilty, then punish him but do not put things on hold for indefinite period of time.You can not say that Nawaz Sharif's case is pending as thousands of other cases are pending.This is because Nawaz Sharif is not an ordinary citizen; he is the head of a large political party.

3.Nawaz Sharifs case of money laundering and Hudaibia Paper mills is also pending.Why Nawaz doesn't explain how his sons created business empires in Jeddah and London when they both had nothing there before 1999?It is a false arguement that Musharaff had investigated against Nawaz Sharif's corruption but didn't find anything against him.The fact of the matter is that the investigation against Nawaz Sharif was stopped after Dec 2000 when Nawaz signed an agreement with Musharraf and flew to Saudi Arabia.It was part of the deal that Musharraf would withdraw all cases and stop all investigations against Nawaz Sharif if he kept himself awas from politics for 10 years.

 

[punjabimunda1]

So you proved PTI only speaks against PMLN ???????

When Imran Khan said that Zardari was his leader? Perhaps, you saw in your dream.However, Nawaz Sharif catagorically said in January 2011, "Zardari sahab! Even if your own party left you, I will be with you".It was the time when MQM divorced PPP for a brief period and Zardari's govt became a minority govt with only 150+ members.Also, Q-league and JUI-F were already in opposition at that time and they all were looking towards PMLN for moving a vote of no-confidence against Yousaf Raza Gilani.Had PMLN gathered all opposition parties at that time, the country would have come out of Zardari's menace and Noon League would have full chance to perform well at federal level for 27 months (Jan 2011-Mar 2013) alongwith their Punjab Govt.If Nawaz didn't trust MQM and/or PMLQ, then why did he take almost all MNAs/MPAs of Q-league over the last one year and why did he thinking to form a grand-alliance(including MQM) against PPP in Sindh for 2013 elections?

As far as your take on the 'good governance of Punjab' is concerned, this perception is due to two reasons.
1.Because Punjab govt is less bad as compared to other three provinces.In my view, Punjab govt is bad (not good) whereas the other three govts are worse.
2.Due to the propaganda machinary of Noon League.It is no secret that majority of print and electronic media is Punjab-based where PMLN has a thirty years of penetration at all level.PMLN has links with media owners,anchors,columnists,editors, news reporters etc.This is the reason that media never called the representatives of the four provinces and aksed them to give their figures of economic growth rate, agricultural growth rate,the revenue collection, borrowing from banks/federation, the education indices , the general law-n-order ( in terms of killing, ransome, robbery, theft etc), the production of energy(electricity and gas) after 18th amendment etc.

Instead of putting PMLN under radar, it was given free hand and all the focus was put on PPP.Even judiciary showed some soft corner for PMLN.I will here give you three examples from judiciary.

1.Indeed, Asghar Khan case was heard and decided after 15 years, but when it came to giving clear verdict against politicians (which includes Nawaz Sharif as well), FIA was ordered to carry-out enquiry.Even I would have satisfied with this verdict if the follow-up of this vedict was done by SC as it did in case of NRO's verdict and Rental Power verdict.It is to be remembered that SC formulated implementation benches to ensure that govt didn't run away from abiding by it.I will go to the extent that even if you find any PTI leader (e.g Javed Hashmi) involved in taking money from ISI, do not spare him.But atleast force FIA to conduct enquiry into the whole matter.

2.Nawaz Sharif and his family is a defaulter of Rs.4.5 Billion since the 90s but that case has not been heard since 1997.This fact is revealed during loan-write-off case that is currently being heard in SC.Why lower court and Lahore High Court didn't not fix that case? If Nawaz Sharif is not guilty, exonerate him and if he is guilty, then punish him but do not put things on hold for indefinite period of time.You can not say that Nawaz Sharif's case is pending as thousands of other cases are pending.This is because Nawaz Sharif is not an ordinary citizen; he is the head of a large political party.

3.Nawaz Sharifs case of money laundering and Hudaibia Paper mills is also pending.Why Nawaz doesn't explain how his sons created business empires in Jeddah and London when they both had nothing there before 1999?It is a false arguement that Musharaff had investigated against Nawaz Sharif's corruption but didn't find anything against him.The fact of the matter is that the investigation against Nawaz Sharif was stopped after Dec 2000 when Nawaz signed an agreement with Musharraf and flew to Saudi Arabia.It was part of the deal that Musharraf would withdraw all cases and stop all investigations against Nawaz Sharif if he kept himself awas from politics for 10 years.

 

[Abdulmaalik]

As far as using different glasses to judge the performance of PMLN is concerned, you have to do this.Any person with average IQ level knows that PMLN is the party that is waiting for its turn in Islamabad over the last 5 years.PMLN was the largest opposition party in Natioanal Assembly.PMLN was the party that has been ruling 60% of Pakistan for the last 5 years and that too after the passing of 18th amendment in 2009 when provinces were given much greater autonomy.So, bigger the share you get, more you should be answerable.Moreover,PPP is almost died after its pathetic performace, MQM is limited only to Karachi , ANP is limited only to Pakhtun belt of KPK, JUI-F is even smaller than ANP.So, what else is left? It is PMLN that has to be held answerable.

PMLN didn't do any single fundamental change in Punjab.It did only patch work.e.g

Sasti Roti Scheme: So much waste of money that the scheme had to be abondoned after burning Rs.21 Billion.
Danish Schools: 4 or five schools have been built by spending a total of billions of rupees but it didn't do any change to the overall education system in Punjab.This money could have been spent in building the missing infrastructure of the 25000 existing govt schools.
Yellow Cabs: Another failed scheme: graduates kay liay taxian.
Laptop: 100% politically motivated scheme as it was started after 30th october 2011.Again,hundreds of thousands of desktop computers could have been purchased using this same amount and these computers should have been put in computer labs and libraries of colleges and universities as is practised in whole Europe and North Americal.Ab ya to hamari Punjab govt bohat genius hai ya yeh Europians aur Americans donkeys hain jo inhay laptops wala khial nahin aya.
Solar Lamps:Again for getting youth votes.This Punjab govt did nothing to have some coal-based plants and/or run-of-river projects over the last 3.5 years after the passing of 18th amendments.Had they generated their own electricity, it would have not only benefited students but it would have also solved the problems of Punjab's industry.Instead of this, PMLN leadership advised its MNAs/MPAs to participate in the public protest against load-shedding.What a shame?

Phir kehtay ho ke Punjab Govt kay khilaf baat na karain! Khuda ki qasam! hamaray dil dukhtay hain Jab hum Pakistan aur Punjab ki yeh halat dekhtay hain.
Note: This is not 80s or 90s when the failure of PPP resulted in bringing PMLN back and vice-a-versa.

 

[Abdulmaalik]

So you proved PTI only speaks against PMLN ???????

I proved why PTI speaks more against PMLN than others.I didn't say that PTI speaks only against PMLN.This is your own conclusion.If you have logical answers to all the points that I have raised, please do it, so that many of PTI supporters could also support PMLN.Atleast, I will be the first one to vote for PMLN alongwith my family.But please do not give generic replies as most of PMLN's supporters give: e.g jalnay walay ka moon kala, hamain roke kar dikhao, tum logon say hamari jeet hazam nahin ho rahi, rapid bus ko rok kar dikhao etc etc.

All these generic replies have nothing to do with the questions that PTI's supporters ask from Noon League.Your policy seems same like PPP.PPP say jo bhi poocho, wo har baat kay jawab mein yahi kehtain, ham nay jamhooriat kay liay bari qurbanian dee hain.

 

[Abdulmaalik]

By the way, I am also a Punjabi Munda like you.My mother tongue is Punjabi and I am an ex-voter and supporter of PMLN.

 

[punjabimunda1]

Theek hai bhai sb ,,main aap ke andaz e takhatab ko pasand karta hoon,,realy nice,,

By the way, I am also a Punjabi Munda like you.My mother tongue is Punjabi and I am an ex-voter and supporter of PMLN.

 

[aimless]

bro where was PML N when PTI did protest against zardari when he was going to be the president .. .where was PML N when for 3 yrs PTI keep saying things against PPP ... where was PML N when PTI requested them to give resign and go in election ...
PML N was the support of PPP so if u want to get ppp first u have to go through PML N ... and NS is proudly accept that ... that zardari and PPP is in govt becz of him ... so now PTI says more thing to PML N becz they r like MQM ... they r just B team of PPP but they act like they r opposition ... and believe me if PML N wins the election they will let zardari be the president for next 4 yrs...