Black water, mqm, ttp different name moto same.

mrBonga

Citizen
Blackwater and MQMs Hallmarks on Karachi Fire-Bombing

MQM and Blackwater/Xe are US sponsored mafia style mercenary outfits due to their management structure as it is almost the same both groups chiefs are out of Pakistan to start with.
There is no difference between Tehreek Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and MQM because both are sponsored by India and USA. Sawat type operation against MQMs Clean Shaven Taliban who are supporting Blackwater/Xe is a must because people will support. President Zardari, the Putin of Pakistan can he do anything of for Karachi or he has become a cuddly toy now?
The recent bombings of a religious procession in Karachi and fire bombings of small businesses miles away from the incident reportedly owned by mostly Sunni Tableghie Jamat a non violent religious group, got all the hall marks of private mercenaries Blackwater with the support of MQM. According to reports it is physically not possible for any one attending the procession to go miles away, get special fire bombing chemicals and equipment to set fire 300 hundred shops in Bolton Market. It is only possible if one already knows the timing of the bombings and part of the plot. They targeted a Sunni areas where it is almost impossible for an angry Shia protestor to reach from the crime scene keeping in the view the distances. So Shia procession was bombed, Sunni business were burnt down and MQMs fire engines did not arrive. Seems perfect Blackwater Inc style operation?
Blackwater, MQMs Plus plan was meticulous and well timed. (a) Timing of the bombing few days before the end of the term of City Government Term. So City Government building burnt down with the record to cover-up corruption? (b) Selection of the venues to be fire bombed (c) Torching of Light House Market predominantly owned by the Pashtuns who did not pay extortion money to the MQM Score settled, Job done (d) Torching of Bolton Market mostly business are owned by peaceful Sunni Muslims Memon Community. They refused to be relocated outside the city because shops worth millions. High ups of the current regime allegedly President Zardari & Co had interest in the land to develop and build flats and plazas. (Job done) (e) Why MQM leaders both reportedly Shias Haider Abbas Rizvi and Faisal Sabzwari not in the Ashura procession? (f) Why police and rangers did not stop the arsonists and terrorists? (g) Who ordered them not to act? (h) Remote control bomb was planted in an ambulance which might be carrying a head too? (i) Who is Hasham Al-Zafar (central) and what is his role in the bombing and burning of Karachi? (j) What is his relationship with Saleem Shezad alleged master mind of the operation and why he only reports to Altaf Hussain?
MQM and Blackwater/Xe are US sponsored mafia style mercenary outfits due to their management structure as it is almost the same both groups chiefs are out of Pakistan to start with. MQM are the local collaborators of Blackwater/Xe in Pakistan?
According to sources similar kinds of chemicals and fire bombing equipments have been used in Iraq and Lebanon. Pakistans security agencies must look into the links between MQM lead City Government and Blackwater. What kind of assistance they are providing to the mercenaries. City mayor Syed Mustafa Kamal and Governor Sind Dr Ashrat Abad Khan recently visited sensitive institutions of the USA related to protection of US national interests aboard. Why would a mayor of a third world country visit US State Department? Did he inform Pakistanis foreign ministry? He is on the grooming list. To his credentials it was Mustafa Kamal who opened the door for the assassins came to kill his uncle Azeem Ahmed Tariq, leader of the MQM, as it was an inside job. It sounds like nephew shopped his uncle according to a source.
Altaf Hussains MQM and his mafia have caused more economic and human losses to Pakistan by strikes and terrorist activities then three wars with India. After the incident on Monday December 28, 2009, three thousand shops were burnt; one thousand were burnt after looting which caused loss of Rs. 60 billion to Pakistani economy. Armed men stopped fire engines for over three hours according to reports. Why?
Elements close to MQM were also allegedly involved in the terrorism, arson, and killings after tragic death of Benazir Bhutto on 27th December 2007. Many analysts believe that it was a dry run by the foreign sponsored elements to separate Karachi from the rest of the country. There is another dimension to the burring of some markets with small business. Some people from land mafia were making hostile offers to these old pre partition businesses.
There are reports that MQM has issued thousands of arms licences to its workers and sympathisers in Karachi and some of the licences might have been issued from other provinces. Disarming of the terrorist groups including MQM in Karachi is necessary to avoid future blackmails.
It is also reported that armed gunmen did not allow fire engines to leave the fire stations. All the fire engines and security cameras are under the control of City Government run by MQM whose leader Altaf Hussain controls this group in a mafia style. Within minutes he blamed Taliban for the bombings. How did he know it was Taliban and not Indian RAW or Blackwater/Xe? Altaf Hussain deliberately tried to make this a sectarian issue in his live TV broadcast on a news channel, which matches the agenda of private mercenaries and India.
Asia Times Online reported few years ago during Musharraf era, sources says that, only US diplomatic intervention stopped General Musharraf from taking strong action against the MQM after he received the report on the recent unrest in which the MQM was implicated. Washington indeed has a powerful southern ally in Pakistan. After September 11, the United States identified even more with the MQM as it was the only party in Pakistan that widely mourned the attacks on the US, openly condemned the Taliban and al-Qaeda, and launched a powerful campaign in support of the US attack on Afghanistan.
When President Zardari speak about non state & political actors, probably he also meant Altaf Hussain too? His long distance proactive and dramatic telephonic speeches are more or less what Lord Nelson said, If you cant baffle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bullshit!. He is never been to Pakistan for more then 15 years but did travel to India on his British passport. Most of the members in mafia style Rabita Committee are wanted by Pakistani authorities for heinous crimes. He hides behind this kangaroo committee.
A political analyst said, to get poodle status in US administration Altaf Hussain exaggerates things beyond imagination. For example, he claimed his supporters in Karachi increased by 10 million in just two years because he claimed to have 20 million supporters in an interview with Edgware Times in November 1998. But in 2001 MQM claimed to have 30 million supporters when MQM send a fax to Reuters on 22 September 2001. (MQM leader) Altaf Hussain has offered the unconditional support of over 30 million MQM supporters to the U.S. president and the international community, its London-based international secretariat said in a statement faxed to Reuters on September 22, 2001″.
According to sources, Altaf group is planning and preparing for armed fight with other groups in Karachi. There might be a plan to divide Karachi on ethnic zones as Rehman Malik mentioned in Dera Ismail Khan? The alleged transfer of money from Karachi to London, Germany, Dubai, South Africa, Canada, and United States is alarming. There reports of increase in the arms sale in Karachi seem serious but what are the authorities doing?
So what is Altaf Hussain up to that is a crucial question to political and security leadership to think about. His alleged close links with the Indian agency and also acting like a mercenary force getting orders from foreign masters. It is time for the government of Pakistan to approach its friends and allies to have a clear cut answers about the real Agenda in Pakistan? Crimes of Altaf Hussain and his party MQM are so heinous that he wouldnt dare step in Karachi even the whole period of Musharraf and now Zardari rule?
Until November 1998 Government of Pakistan was reportedly seeking extradition of Altaf Hussain who was said to be wanted in 50 murders and 150 cases of kidnapping and arson. He said in an interview with a newspaper in 1998, It is my wish that they take me to trial in a British court then I will tell people nationally and internationally what has been happening in Pakistan. It was Altaf Hussain and MQM who issued a memo to his workers saying, if there was war between India and Pakistan, MQM workers will be remain neutral. Why?
MQMs deputy chief organiser of district Thatta and his wife were arrested by the police for trafficking 120 kilos of A class drugs according to a press report on 16th May 2004. Mohamed Ibrahim and his wife Ayesha Soho who is also member of district government were coming from Bolan area of Baluchistan on Jeep number BC 1248 when they were stopped by Dadar Police who discovered 180 kilos of HASH worth millions of from the secret compartments of the jeep. Police has registered a case number 13/2004 report against deputy chief of MQM and his wife for drug trafficking. Area in charge SHO of the area Police confirmed that suspects have confessed they have been also involved in arms trafficking from Kabul and been to Afghanistan three times. Both were sent to Sibi Jail in Baluchistan.
MQM has been funded with the drug money apart from the extortion money taken from the top businessmen in the name of support according to a report published by The Frontier Post on December 25, 1998. The report says, What is more alarming is that the Narco dollars have been used for funding the (MQM), a responsible source in the provincial government said. He added that such funding was tantamount to fuelling terrorism. Is the Narco-terror funding still on?
By joining as local collaborator of Blackwater in Karachi MQM has provided the eyes and ears on the ground with smart guns. Even if US-India sponsored Pakistani Taliban claim responsibility of Karachi Ashura bombings, the chemicals and smart guns used in burnings of the over 6000 small businesses and loss of Rs. 60 billion have all the hallmarks of Blackwater/Xe.
There is no difference between Tehreek Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and MQM because both are sponsored by India and USA. Sawat type operation against MQMs Clean Shaven Taliban who are supporting Blackwater/Xe is a must because people will support. President Zardari, the Putin of Pakistan can he do anything of for Karachi or he has become a cuddly toy now?
Dr Shahid Qureshi
 

sharjeel

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Brov do sometime productive and useful... do not waste your precious time in spreading propaganda against someone who are best amongst all corrupt politicans

Blackwater and MQM’s Hallmarks on Karachi Fire-Bombing

MQM and Blackwater/Xe are US sponsored mafia style mercenary outfits due to their management structure as it is almost the same both groups’ chiefs are out of Pakistan to start with.
“There is no difference between Tehreek Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and MQM because both are sponsored by India and USA. Sawat type operation against MQM’s “˜Clean Shaven Taliban’ who are supporting Blackwater/Xe is a must because people will support. President Zardari, the “˜Putin of Pakistan’ can he do anything of for Karachi or he has become a cuddly toy now?”
The recent bombings of a religious procession in Karachi and fire bombings of small businesses miles away from the incident reportedly owned by mostly Sunni Tableghie Jamat a non violent religious group, got all the hall marks of “˜private mercenaries’ Blackwater with the support of MQM. According to reports it is physically not possible for any one attending the procession to go miles away, get special fire bombing chemicals and equipment to set fire 300 hundred shops in Bolton Market. It is only possible if one already knows the timing of the bombings and part of the plot. They targeted a Sunni areas where it is almost impossible for an angry “˜Shia protestor’ to reach from the crime scene keeping in the view the distances. So Shia procession was bombed, Sunni business were burnt down and MQM’s fire engines did not arrive. Seems perfect Blackwater Inc style operation?
Blackwater, MQM’s Plus plan was meticulous and well timed. (a) Timing of the bombing few days before the end of the term of City Government Term. So City Government building burnt down with the record to cover-up corruption? (b) Selection of the venues to be fire bombed (c) Torching of Light House Market predominantly owned by the Pashtuns who did not pay extortion money to the MQM ” Score settled, Job done (d) Torching of Bolton Market mostly business are owned by peaceful Sunni Muslims Memon Community. They refused to be relocated outside the city because shops worth millions. High ups of the current regime allegedly President Zardari & Co had interest in the land to develop and build flats and plazas. (Job done) (e) Why MQM leaders both reportedly Shias Haider Abbas Rizvi and Faisal Sabzwari not in the Ashura procession? (f) Why police and rangers did not stop the arsonists and terrorists? (g) Who ordered them not to act? (h) Remote control bomb was planted in an ambulance which might be carrying a head too? (i) Who is Hasham Al-Zafar (central) and what is his role in the bombing and burning of Karachi? (j) What is his relationship with Saleem Shezad alleged master mind of the operation and why he only reports to Altaf Hussain?
MQM and Blackwater/Xe are US sponsored mafia style mercenary outfits due to their management structure as it is almost the same both groups’ chiefs are out of Pakistan to start with. MQM are the local collaborators of Blackwater/Xe in Pakistan?
According to sources similar kinds of chemicals and fire bombing equipments have been used in Iraq and Lebanon. Pakistan’s security agencies must look into the links between MQM lead City Government and Blackwater. What kind of assistance they are providing to the mercenaries. City mayor Syed Mustafa Kamal and Governor Sind Dr Ashrat Abad Khan recently visited sensitive institutions of the USA related to protection of US national interests aboard. Why would a mayor of a third world country visit US State Department? Did he inform Pakistani’s foreign ministry? He is on the grooming list. “To his credentials it was Mustafa Kamal who opened the door for the assassins came to kill his “˜uncle’ Azeem Ahmed Tariq, leader of the MQM, as it was an inside job. It sounds like nephew shopped his “˜uncle’ according to a source.
Altaf Hussain’s MQM and his mafia have caused more economic and human losses to Pakistan by strikes and terrorist activities then three wars with India. After the incident on Monday December 28, 2009, three thousand shops were burnt; one thousand were burnt after looting which caused loss of Rs. 60 billion to Pakistani economy. Armed men stopped fire engines for over three hours according to reports. Why?
Elements close to MQM were also allegedly involved in the terrorism, arson, and killings after tragic death of Benazir Bhutto on 27th December 2007. Many analysts believe that it was a dry run by the foreign sponsored elements to separate Karachi from the rest of the country. There is another dimension to the burring of some markets with small business. Some people from land mafia were making hostile offers to these old pre partition businesses.
There are reports that MQM has issued thousands of arms licences to its workers and sympathisers in Karachi and some of the licences might have been issued from other provinces. Disarming of the terrorist groups including MQM in Karachi is necessary to avoid future blackmails.
It is also reported that armed gunmen did not allow fire engines to leave the fire stations. All the fire engines and security cameras are under the control of City Government run by MQM whose leader Altaf Hussain controls this group in a mafia style. Within minutes he blamed “˜Taliban’ for the bombings. How did he know it was Taliban and not Indian RAW or Blackwater/Xe? Altaf Hussain deliberately tried to make this a sectarian issue in his live TV broadcast on a news channel, which matches the agenda of private mercenaries and India.
Asia Times Online reported few years ago during Musharraf era, sources says that, “only US diplomatic intervention stopped General Musharraf from taking strong action against the MQM after he received the report on the recent unrest in which the MQM was implicated. Washington indeed has a powerful southern ally in Pakistan’. After September 11, the United States identified even more with the MQM as it was the only party in Pakistan that widely mourned the attacks on the US, openly condemned the Taliban and al-Qaeda, and launched a powerful campaign in support of the US attack on Afghanistan”.
When President Zardari speak about “˜non state & political actors’, probably he also meant Altaf Hussain too? His long distance proactive and dramatic telephonic speeches are more or less what Lord Nelson said, “If you can’t baffle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bullshit!”. He is never been to Pakistan for more then 15 years but did travel to India on his British passport. Most of the members in mafia style “˜Rabita Committee’ are wanted by Pakistani authorities for heinous crimes. He hides behind this “˜kangaroo committee’.
A political analyst said, “˜to get “˜poodle status’ in US administration Altaf Hussain exaggerates things beyond imagination. For example, he claimed his supporters in Karachi increased by 10 million in just two years because he claimed to have 20 million supporters in an interview with Edgware Times in November 1998. But in 2001 MQM claimed to have 30 million supporters when MQM send a fax to Reuters on 22 September 2001. “(MQM leader) Altaf Hussain has offered the unconditional support of over 30 million MQM supporters to the U.S. president and the international community,” its London-based international secretariat said in a statement faxed to Reuters on September 22, 2001″.
According to sources, “˜Altaf group is planning and preparing for armed fight with other groups in Karachi. There might be a plan to divide Karachi on ethnic zones as Rehman Malik mentioned in Dera Ismail Khan? The alleged transfer of money from Karachi to London, Germany, Dubai, South Africa, Canada, and United States is alarming. There reports of increase in the arms sale in Karachi seem serious but what are the authorities doing?
So what is Altaf Hussain up to that is a crucial question to political and security leadership to think about. His alleged close links with the Indian agency and also acting like a mercenary force getting orders from foreign masters. It is time for the government of Pakistan to approach its friends and allies to have a clear cut answers about the real Agenda in Pakistan? Crimes of Altaf Hussain and his party MQM are so heinous that he wouldn’t dare step in Karachi even the whole period of Musharraf and now Zardari rule?
Until November 1998 Government of Pakistan was reportedly seeking extradition of Altaf Hussain who was said to be wanted in 50 murders and 150 cases of kidnapping and arson. He said in an interview with a newspaper in 1998, “It is my wish that they take me to trial in a British court then I will tell people nationally and internationally what has been happening in Pakistan.” It was Altaf Hussain and MQM who issued a memo to his workers saying,” if there was war between India and Pakistan, MQM workers will be remain neutral”. Why?
MQM’s deputy chief organiser of district Thatta and his wife were arrested by the police for trafficking 120 kilos of A class drugs according to a press report on 16th May 2004. Mohamed Ibrahim and his wife Ayesha Soho who is also member of district government were coming from Bolan area of Baluchistan on Jeep number BC 1248 when they were stopped by Dadar Police who discovered 180 kilos of HASH worth millions of from the secret compartments of the jeep. Police has registered a case number 13/2004 report against deputy chief of MQM and his wife for drug trafficking. Area in charge SHO of the area Police confirmed that suspects have confessed they have been also involved in arms trafficking from Kabul and been to Afghanistan three times. Both were sent to Sibi Jail in Baluchistan.
“MQM has been funded with the drug money apart from the extortion money taken from the top businessmen in the name of support” according to a report published by The Frontier Post on December 25, 1998. The report says, “” What is more alarming is that the Narco dollars have been used for funding the (MQM), a responsible source in the provincial government said. He added that such funding was tantamount to fuelling terrorism.” Is the Narco-terror funding still on?
By joining as local collaborator of Blackwater in Karachi MQM has provided the eyes and ears on the ground with smart guns. Even if US-India sponsored “˜Pakistani Taliban’ claim responsibility of Karachi Ashura bombings, the chemicals and smart guns used in burnings of the over 6000 small businesses and loss of Rs. 60 billion have all the hallmarks of Blackwater/Xe.
“There is no difference between Tehreek Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and MQM because both are sponsored by India and USA. Sawat type operation against MQM’s “˜Clean Shaven Taliban’ who are supporting Blackwater/Xe is a must because people will support. President Zardari, the “˜Putin of Pakistan’ can he do anything of for Karachi or he has become a cuddly toy now?”
Dr Shahid Qureshi
 

mrBonga

Citizen
bro,to understand this, you need to read this,commented so fast that even my scanner can't scan with such a speed.how can you read with such speed,,,are you using any chooren to enhance your memory and reading power?.you know what i mean?
 

Night-Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Brov do sometime productive and useful... do not waste your precious time in spreading propaganda against someone who are best amongst all corrupt politicans

I think you should better answer to some of those allegations. This is a political forum and everyone has the right to share his views.

Gosh..... there is a long list of allegations..... Kis Kis ka jawab do gey Jury, kis kis ko explain karo gee Mehwish ali ? Yes there is another way... to make counter-allegations , but against whom? No party has a caliber of MQM. Same things I said , a few days back caused severe abdominal colic to one of Altaf's supporters.
 

Night-Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Jaisa Name wesi Post......lol



MQM & Qadiyanis' Israel Connection


By Dr Shahid Qureshi in The London Post, 1st October 2008

(I have been saying since early 2007 that the war for the liberation of
Afghanistan would be fought on the soil of Pakistan. This was because the
country's policy was in the hands of one Qadiyani - Tariq Aziz. Musharraf
has gone but Pakistan's policy is now in the hands of Asif Zardari and two
Qadiyanis - Tariq Aziz and Rehman Malik. The war of Afghanistan's liberation
has decisively shifted to Pakistan and India is being encouraged to
implement its goals that had been long pursued discreetly. The Qadiyani
Quislings are facilitating India while the armed forces stand demoralised
and the political class is too inept to understand let alone stem the India
tide. The alertness of the people alone can thwart Zardari and his cohorts
from a 'sell out' on Kashmir and Mohajir Mafia (MQM) becoming the rulers of
Pakistan in perpetuity like the Brahmins in India and the Jews In America. +
Usman Khalid +)

More Qadiyanis serve in the Israeli Armed Forces than in Pakistan according
to a book, 'Israel: A Profile', by a respected Jewish Professor I.T Naomi.
He states: '. and the Ahmadi sect of some 600 people from Pakistan can also
serve in the (Israeli) army...' To many analysts, the Qadiaynis are a
political issue and have always been a security problem (for Pakistan). In
India, the Qadiyanis collected and donated thousands to the Indian Army fund
after Kargil.

On 15th February 1987, Pakistani Foreign Minister, Sahibzada Yakub Khan
stated in an answer to a question in the National Assembly that there were
328 Qadiyani officers of different ranks in the Pakistan Armed Forces. He
said, there were one Lt. General and five Brigadiers in the Army, one
Commodore in the Navy and six of equivalent rank in the Air Force. The
number of Colonels or equivalent was 10 in the Army, two in the Navy and
three in the Air Force (total- 15). The number of Lt. Colonels or similar
ranks was 56 in the Army, 6 in the Navy, and 11 in the Air Force (total-73).
The number of Major or equivalent ranks was 135 in the Army, 5 in the Navy
and 16 in the Air Force (total- 156). The numbers of Captain or equivalents
were 58 in the Army, 5 in the Navy, and 14 in the Air Force (total -77).
Grand Total =328.

Now the question is: after 20 years where are these officers? How far up
the ladder have they gone? What is their current status in the armed forces
and intelligence agencies? "Qadiyanis were created for political reasons and
also to confuse the Muslims especially on the matter of 'Jihad", said a
senior analyst.

'Give peace to the Ahmadis (another name for the Qadiyanis) if you want
peace in Karachi', said a very senior Qadiyani leader to me in 1995 while
sitting in one of his fully licensed restaurants at Wilmslow Road,
Manchester. That was the time when Benazir Bhutto's government was engaged
in a 'clean up' operation against the MQM in Karachi under Interior Minister
Naseerullah Babar. That alerted me: what was the link between Qadiyanis, who
are mostly from the province of the Punjab, and the MQM?

I attended a UN sponsored conference on Human Rights in London when a close
friend took me to see Mr. Altaf Hussain (leader of the MQM) at his London
offices in August 1995. I was shown video clips of the rough treatment being
to MQM workers in Karachi. I got an opportunity to talk to the 'leader' and
I asked him about his plans to carve out a Mohajir state on the coast of the
SINDH province that is referred to as 'Jinnahpur conspiracy'. I suggested to
Mr Altaf Husain, 'don't say anything which you cannot take back'. I told him
about the example of Sheikh Mujeeb-ur- Rehman's six points' that led to the
1971 War between India and Pakistan. After all, liver damage caused by
drinking alcohol and smoking of hashish is irreversible.

The close contacts of the MQM with Tariq Aziz, National Security Advisor of
former President Musharraf, a Qadiyani, have been well known. He is a
relation of Rehman Malik, Advisor Ministry of Interior in Zardari
Administration. Tariq Aziz has been hired by the new Administration because
of his experience as lead negotiator in 'track two diplomacy' with India
that paved the way for a 'sell-out' on Kashmir. His rank and salary would be
equivalent to a federal minister. President Zardari has been eager to pursue
the secret agenda of General Musharraf on Kashmir. It is also understood
that the MQM and PPP are planning to move a resolution in the parliament to
undo constitutional amendments that declared the Qadiaynis as non-Muslims by
Prime Minister ZA Bhutto on 7th September 1974. None of this seems to bother
the rank and file or the leaders of the PPP, who founder and popular leader
was the architect of the Kashmir policy and of excluding the Qadiyanis from
the pail of Islam.

Of late, Altaf Hussain has emerged as the champion of the Qadiyanis even
though the Shia (the sect to which he belongs) have been stronger in
condemnation of the Qadiyani heresy than the other sects. On 8th September
2008, Mr Altaf Hussain said, there was "a widespread conspiracy against the
MQM of sending fax letters and emails to individuals and to Imam Bargahs and
Mosques domestically and internationally inciting hatred and provoking
attacks against Shiite and the Qadiyani sects maligning the image of the MQM
and falsely portraying it to be against the Shiite and Ahmadi sects".

Altaf Hussain also prayed for the forgiveness and blessings of Allah (swt)
for Mirza Tahir Ahmad, the Qadiyani leader who died in London few of years
ago. One wonders why Altaf Hussain, who also lives in London, did not attend
the prayer at his funeral? Is it because the Qadiyanis are not a sect of
Islam but a separate faith. The Qadiyanis do not pray with non-Qadiyanis;
not even funeral prayers. Sir Zafrullah, who was Qadiyani holding the office
of Foreign Minister at the time, did not attend the funeral of Muhammad Ali
Jinnah (father of the nation of Shia sect) whose funeral prayers were
conducted by a Sunni Cleric.

The 'Impact' magazine published from London, wrote: 'The National Assembly
(in 1974) removed a long standing but an unnecessary anomaly. The decision
served only to formalise the de facto even de jure position. The problem had
arisen not because the Muslims in some fit of orthodoxy or fanaticism wanted
to 'excommunicate' any group of people. Its origin, on the other hand, lay
in the assumption by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadiyan of Messiahship, and
prophethood and consequently branding those who did not believe in him to be
outside the pail of his Islam.

The Qadiyani view of their relationship with Muslims was well summarised by
their second caliph, Mirza Mahmud Ahmad. He wrote:

"Our worship has been separated from the non -Ahmadis, we are prohibited
from giving our daughters (in marriage) to them and we have been stopped
from offering prayers for their dead. What then is left that we can do
together? There are two kinds of ties: one religious the other mundane. The
greatest expression of the religious bond is in common worship and in
matters mundane, these are the ties of family and marriage. But both are
forbidden (haram) to us. If you say that we are permitted to take their
daughter (in marriage), then I would reply that we are allowed to marry the
daughters of Christians as well. If you say why do we Salam (salute) to non-
Ahmadis, then the reply to this is that . the Prophet (Muhammad) said Salam
to the Jews. Thus the Promised Messiah (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) has separated
us, in all possible ways, from the others; and there is no kind of
relationship which is particular to Muslims and we are not forbidden from
(entering into) that", (****matul Fazal', by Mirza Mahmud Ahmad in Review of
Religions).

Sources: http://www.daily.pk/mqm-and-qadiyanis-in-israeli-army-6865/
 

Night-Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Terrorist attacks on ‘Qadiyani Centres’ in Lahore

By Dr Shahid Qureshi
Monday 31 May 2010
The attacks on the Qadiyani places of worship in Lahore and deaths of innocent people are surely attack on the sovereignty of Pakistan. It is not the first time that places of worships attacked by terrorists in Pakistan. As matter of common courtesy one can extend condolences to the victim’s families and Qadiyani community in Pakistan on this tragic incident. Over 25000 Pakistanis have lost their lives in the ‘war of revenge’ launched by defence contractors and international arms dealers and bankers after the 9/11,2001, which is yet to be criminally investigated.

Qadiyani community is always seen as influential and privileged since its birth during British Raj. It enjoyed being close to all the rulers of Pakistan especially during General Musharaf’s rule due to his personal links with the minority. This closeness of rulers did not end with the departure of Musharaf as current rulers are as loyal to the minority as the previous, Rehman Malik, Manzoor Watto, Salman Taseer, Tariq Aziz are well known sympathisers. It is also referred as ‘Israeli Lobby’ in Pakistan due to their Zionist links and fully functioning centres in Israel.

Over a year ago a London based think tank ‘Chatham House’s expert was talking about Northern Punjab at Imperial College in a seminar where an Indian journalist was sitting to nod his head on his remarks. It is not strange that Qadiyani sympathiser Rehman Malik interior minister saying exactly the same thing? He always implicates all the Sunni groups within minutes of incidents to further provoke sectarian feelings and play international game. People knows what ‘grid’ he is on.

“Give peace to the Ahmadis if you want peace in Karachi’, in 1995 a very senior Qadiyani leader said to me while sitting in one of his fully licensed restaurant at Wilmslow Road Manchester. It was the time when Benazir Bhutto’s government was doing ‘operation clean up’ in Karachi under interior minister Naseerullah Babar. The above comment is off course loaded but also seem in the Lahore attack context that perhaps they have been used and might have been targeted in a ‘friendly fire’ by the international arms dealers.

As an open-minded Muslim leader Muhammad Ali Jinnah father of nation appointed Sir Zafarullah Khan a Qadiyani, his first foreign minister of Pakistan who did not attend his funeral conducted by a Sunni scholar Shabeer Ahmed Usmani, considering Mr Jinnah as non-Muslim (non Ahmadi). In a hypothetical scenario as far as the integration of the Qadiyanis with the rest of the Muslim community is concerned doors for the non-Ahmadis are shut.

The Qadiyani view of their relationship with rest of the Muslims was well summarised by their second caliph, Mirza Mahmud Ahmad: “Our worship has been separated from the non–Ahmadis, we are prohibited from giving our daughters (in marriage) to them and we have been stopped from offering prayers for their dead. What then left that we can do together? There are two kinds of ties: one religious the other mundane. The greatest expression of the religious bond is in common worship and in matters mundane, these are the ties of family and marriage. But then both are forbidden (haram) to us. If you say that we are permitted to take their daughter (in marriage), then I would reply that we are allowed to marry the daughters of Christians as well. If you say why do we Salam (salute) to non- Ahmadis, then the reply to this is that … the Prophet (Muhammad) has said Salam to the Jews… Thus the Promised Messiah (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) has separated us, in all possible ways, from the others; and there is no kind of relationship which is particular to Muslims and we are not forbidden from (entering into) that”, (****matul Fazsl’, by Mirza Mahmud Ahmad in Review of Religions).

Altaf Hussain prayed for the forgiveness of Mirza Tahir Ahmad Qadiyani leader, who died in London few of years ago. One wonders why Altaf did not attend his funeral? As a matter of courtesy one expects to say condolences provided the other side accept? MQM reportedly ‘offered to provide security to Qadiyani centres’, which agreed to consult with its community. Some analysts are pointing fingers at the Indian Raw and Israeli Mosaad’s joint operation to malign Pakistan and present as a country where minorities are not safe’. Surely the world is very well aware how Israelis are treating Palestinians and Indians are treating Sikhs, Muslims and Christians.

A London based magazine wrote: ‘The National Assembly (in 1974) would go to remove a long standing but an unnecessary anomaly. The decision would serve only to formalise the defacto even de jure position. The problem had arisen not because the Muslims in some fit of orthodoxy or fanaticism wanted to ‘excommunicate’ any group of people. Its origin, on the other hand, lay in the assumption by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadiyan of Messiahship, and prophethood and as a consequence, branding those who did not believe in him to be outside the pale of his Islam.

No one can deny the special links of the community with the British Government as Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani (1838-1908) the shadowy prophet declared himself that Islam consisted of two parts: one, obedience to God and two, obedience to the British government. He admitted he could 'pursue his mission neither in Makkah, nor Madinah; neither in Syria, nor Iran or Kabul save under this Government for whose good fortune we pray'. On 24th February 1898, Mirza sent a fawning petition to the British Lt-Governor of the province, he referred to his loyal services to the government of Britain and reminded him that he was their 'their own plant' (khud sakhtah pauda) and, then went on to request that his followers be given special consideration by officials.

Mirza's 'khalifah' and son, Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmad, wrote proudly in the cult's paper Al-Fazal dated 1st November 1934, that: 'The whole world considers us to be the agents of the British. That is why a German minister who attended the opening of an Ahmadiya building in Germany was asked to explain as to why he went to the function of a community, which was the agent of the British.

In 1935 Sir Mohammad Iqbal, a lawyer, poet and philosopher asked the British Government to declare the Qadiyanis as separate community just as they done with the Sikhs. Sir Iqbal said, ‘the Qadiyanis while pursuing a policy of separation in religion and social matters ‘, however, anxious to remain politically with the fold. The Qadiyanis will never take initiative for separation’, argued Sir Iqbal because their small number (56,000) according to 1931 census would not entitle them ‘even to a single seat in any legislature. The Qadiyanis asked the British Government that, ‘our rights too should be recognised like those of Parsees and Christians reported (Al Fadhi 13th November 1946).

In a press release organisation of religious schools issued on 29th May 2010, “Qadiyani movement continues for over 100 years and it should be investigated why all of a sudden this time is chosen (for attacks)’? ‘The rulers must indicate clearly which foreign hands are behind these killings instead of vague statements’. It demanded that government should protect life and limbs of all minorities in the country”. Attacks on places of worships of minority groups are not exclusive to Pakistan but surely deplorable.

Freedom of speech and rule of law is the corner stone of the British and European societies. No one can take away this right from the people under any kind of guise or argument and to have historical or intellectual debate? Qadiyani minority is well integrated with the rest of the British Pakistani community in the United Kingdom. So much so businesses linked to Qadiyani minority are regularly sponsoring ‘Azan’ (call to the prayers) on Pakistani owned TV channels and heavily investing in the ethnic media.

Qadiyani links with Israel: “It was common knowledge that Jalaluddin Qamar, the Ahmedyah Missionary of Rabwah had been serving in Israel since 1956 when Ch. Muhammad Sharif was called back to Pakistan from Israel. All Qadiyani missionaries who had been formerly posted in Israel since 1928 namely J.D Shams, Allah Dita Jalundhari, Rashid Ahmed Chaughtai, Noor Ahmad and Ch. Sharif lived in Rabwah after serving in Israel. Their families had mysterious contact channels when they were in Israel”, wrote Bashir Ahmad in ‘Ahmadiyah Movement: British Jewish Connection.

As far as Jewish help and support is concerned, Mirza Mubarak Ahmad, grandson of the Qadiyani prophet has himself acknowledged in his book ‘OUR FOREIGN MISSIONS’, PP. 79-80 in the following words: “The Ahmadiyya mission in Israel is situated in Haifa at Mount Karmal. We have a mosque there, a mission house, a library, a book depot and a school”.

More Qadiyanis serve in the Israeli Armed Forces than Pakistan according to a book, ‘Israel: A Profile’, by a respected Jewish Professor I.T Naomi. He stated: ‘… and the Ahmadi sect of some 600 people from Pakistan can also serve in the (Israeli) army...’ To many analysts Qadiaynis are a political issue and have always been a security problem? In India Qadiyanis have collected and donated thousands to the Indian Army fund after Kargil.

Pakistani society is very open in terms of equal opportunities. Some minorities are over represented in politics, security, military, media and finance compare to their percentage in the population. On 15th February 1987, Pakistani Foreign Minister, Sahibzada Yakub Khan declared in the National Assembly that there were 328 Qadiyani officers of different ranks in the Pakistan Armed Forces. According to his report 1 - Lt. General, 5 Brigadiers in the army and 1 similar rank in the Air Force = 6, 10 Colonial or equivalent in the Army, 2 Navy, 3 Air Force= 15, Lt. Colonials 15 Army, 6 Navy, 11 Air Force = 73, Major 135 Army, 5, Navy16, Air Force = 156, Captain 58 Army, 5 Navy, 14 Air Force = 77 which comes to the grand total of 328. Now the question is after 20 years where are these officers? How far up have they gone? What is their current status in the armed forces and intelligence agencies? “Qadiyanis were created for political reasons and also to confuse the Muslims especially on the matter of ‘Jihad”, said a senior analyst.

Qadiyanis Asks for Pak-Nukes under UN Control in July 2009: “Pakistan should give its nuclear assets (program) under the United Nations control”, reportedly said Ahmed Abdul Rafique a lawyer and Secretary Foreign Affairs of Qadiyani minority in Frankfurt Germany chapter at a Swat charity dinner few weeks ago in the presence of an active member of Social Democratic Party and German Member of Parliament Otay Zaph who earlier also mentioned the weakness of Pakistani government and security of Pakistan’s nuclear program. Dr Jasper Abrahmoski a high-level government official from the Department of Development and Cooperation also attended the event.

Senior Pakistani diplomats Mr Zahid Ahmed and Dr. Feroze Alam Junejo walked out of the program in protest. They recorded their protest with reporetdly former Major Zubair Khalil an organiser for the alleged remarks. Any sane person would consider these remarks by a leading media spokesman and member of Qadiyani minority as an attack on the sovereignty of Pakistan?

There is no doubt that Zulifkar Ali Bhutto was the visionary statesman of Pakistan. He recognised Qadiaynis as political and security problem than religious. He banned Qadiyani Dr Abdul Salam from visiting Pakistan’s nuclear sites. Dr Salam was reportedly spying for some foreign agency or agencies. He was opposed to the idea of Pakistan becoming a nuclear power.

Anthony Tucker's obituary about Professor Abdus Salam in The Guardian (22 November 1996) noted that `in spite of his powerful influence in world physics, his eminence in the West and lifelong commitment to science in developing countries, in his own country Abdus Salam is blamed for the starvation of important areas of science through encouraging theoretical and nuclear physics and by inference, weapons research'.

Anthony Tucker also said that Abdus Salam `was a vigorous supporter of Pugwash' and he `sought nuclear disarmament'. His unwillingness to contribute to the development science in Pakistan can also be attributed to his being a committed and proselytising member of the heretic Qadiyani community (founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani who claimed to be a prophet). At Trieste Dr Salam would lead, as imam, unknowing Muslim students from across the world in Friday prayers, and distributed Qadiyani tracts about the `persecution of Ahmadiya Muslims in Pakistan'.

Abdus Salams's position as scientific adviser, however, came to an abrupt end in 1974 when the ministry of interior told the PAEC not to allow him anymore into its laboratories. Later Dr Salam visited China where he was received as an eminent Pakistani scientist' and, it is probable, the Chinese, spoke to him freely about their cooperation with Pakistan's nuclear program. It may have been a hire coincidence but the Pakistan `Islamic bomb' became news soon after. The BBC1 TV current affairs program, Panorama, aired in June 1980, mentioned Abdus Salam as one of those who were present at a 1972 ' meeting where Zulfikar AIi Bhutto had ' allegedly taken a decision to make a nuclear bomb.

According to Syed Sharifuddin Pirzada, French President de Gaulle had personally told Ayub Khan in 1967 that France was ready to provide `full' nuclear assistance to Pakistan. In return he simply asked that France be allowed to mine for uranium in the northwest and share it equally with Pakistan. ‘Our "friends" may not like it,' Qadiyani M M Ahmad told Ayub Khan, and in any case, what do we need this expensive technology for.' That is how Pakistan missed the opportunity of becoming a nuclear power at least two decades earlier than it did - and minus all the blackmail and intimidation that knows no ending even now? Sharifuddin Pirzada also, told a journalist in London that as far back as October 1967, French President Charles de Gaulle (d.1970) had offered Pakistan ‘full’ nuclear assistance and know-how; the only thing he wanted in turn was to he allowed to mine for uranium in Northwest Pakistan for a 50% share.

He was a grandson of the Qadiyani `prophet', Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani, (d.1908) and son-in-law of the second Qadiyani `khalifa', Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmad (d. 1965). M M Ahmad’s imprint on Pakistan's fiscal and development policies was to last for ever. As Yahya Khan's 'finance minister', he devalued the rupee by 131% per cent. As one economist pointed out (Dawn, Karachi, 1st February 2002), 'that was the start of the deficit finance, inflation and trade imbalance' from which the country has not been able to free itself.

Kashmir: In a 1995 article, `Pearls of Memory' (Al-Nahal„ Spring 1995), M M Ahmad wrote that close to independence, he was `designated by Pakistan' as additional deputy commissioner of Amritsar to take over the charge of the district if it was awarded to Pakistan. One day the British deputy commissioner of Amritsar told him `casually that Gurdaspur district is likely to go to India'. The award of Gurdaspur gave India a land corridor to Jammu and Kashmir and so enabled it to occupy the territory after three months.

A preliminary version of the award was ready on 8th August 1947. The definitive version was with the Viceroy, Lord Mountbatten on 12th August. However, Mountbatten informed India and Pakistan on 16 August after the ‘process of the Transfer of Power had been completed'. M M Ahmad gives no date when this `top secret' information was given to him. However, instead of rushing to report the matter to Quaid-e-Azam and the Government of Pakistan, he travelled to Qadiyan to inform his `khalifa'. This contrasted with the conduct of Indian officers who immediately reported any sensitive leak or information to Nehru (d.1964) and Nehru took it up with Mountbatten. Qadiaynis have their own particular agenda on Jammu and Kashmir is an open secret. Like the Qadiyani Nobel Laureate, Dr Abdus Salam, M M Ahmad too was opposed to Pakistan becoming a nuclear power.

Late Zulifqar Ali Bhutto's approach to the Qadiyani problem had probably little to do with theology. He had come to see the Qadiyanis purely as a political problem, which explains the sequence of policy decisions along side the strategic decision about acquiring nuclear deterrence. It’s a pity that his party under Zardari has now sold Pakistan and its people to IMF for few billion dollars.

All minority rights should be protected according to the constitution and The UN Declaration of Human Rights. A senior British Muslim condemned the attacks and said: “may be it is time for the Qadiyani community to re-join the Muslims by renouncing some of their views regarding the finality of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and play a role in the world peace”.

Source : http://www.thelondonpost.net/DSQ29MAY20100074.html
 

rajakhanmd

Senator (1k+ posts)
The history of romantic affairs of our major political parties with the National and International establishment should be an eye opener for MQM. Especially in today's Pakistan, the role of both types of establishment would be decreasing in future Insha Allah and political parties should foresee this change. Perhaps the ''WISAAL'' of 90's was too much for MQM to bear and they decided to go ahead on this slippery road. Future is bleak for anyone who would prioritize riding on their shoulders than putting in a genuine political struggle based on principles and policies.
 

bons

Minister (2k+ posts)
bro,to understand this, you need to read this,commented so fast that even my scanner can't scan with such a speed.how can you read with such speed,,,are you using any chooren to enhance your memory and reading power?.you know what i mean?

This is their inherent behavior. Their kal peer of London also issues ready made statements instantaneously on all occasions.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The history of romantic affairs of our major political parties with the National and International establishment should be an eye opener for MQM. Especially in today's Pakistan, the role of both types of establishment would be decreasing in future Insha Allah and political parties should foresee this change. Perhaps the ''WISAAL'' of 90's was too much for MQM to bear and they decided to go ahead on this slippery road. Future is bleak for anyone who would prioritize riding on their shoulders than putting in a genuine political struggle based on principles and policies.

It is not the future they and parties like them including JUI should be careful but be accounted for past sins, 12 May will be a good point to start.
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I doubt if even a single point will be answered, yes you will recieve many a titles from the supporters of AH turning a blind eye to eveything. It is impossible to imagine in this day and age that people believe that their leader is completely immune to any weakness can do no wrong!! This is exactly what is called a DENIAL and itis not only farthest from truth but very close to being exploited too. I think some people are so overrated!!
 

Ammad Hafeez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Ha Ha , Dr. Shahid Qureshi the Man Who is running the FAKE SITE of London Post..
:D

No Credibility of this POST Sorry Boss
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ha Ha , Dr. Shahid Qureshi the Man Who is running the FAKE SITE of London Post..
:D

No Credibility of this POST Sorry Boss

You post videos of your own party leaders in support of your opinion
What credibility do they have
 

Ammad Hafeez

Minister (2k+ posts)
You post videos of your own party leaders in support of your opinion
What credibility do they have


After Ashura attack in Karachi, a so called newspaper The London Post published a story that Karachi attack and after that attack arsoning and looting is done by MQM.
Not only this, the leader of Jamat e Munafiqeen( Jamat e Islami) leader Liaquat Baloch in Press conference referred to the same London Post, and accused MQM for Karachi Ashura attack.

But there is a saying in Urdu that Jhoot ka Paoon Nahi hottay, and People of Jamat e Islami has a habit of speaking lies but every time they speak lie, people of Karachi always caught them with their pants down, but the Hypocrites of Jamat e Islami never stop lying.

A guy from Karachi not only expose Jamat e Islami but also exposed the so called London post, and with proofs revealed that the London Post is run from LAHORE, PUNJAB.

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Here is the article from Noman .

تعصب کا بھانڈا
کل جماعت اسلامی کے تشدد پسند، طالبان پسند، دہشت کے دلدادہ اور ٹیررسٹوں کے ٹرینی رہنما جناب لیاقت بلوچ صاحب نے اپنی تقریر میں فرمایا کہ سانحہ عاشورہ کا بھانڈا ایک برطانوی جریدے نے پھوڑ دیا ہے۔ بھانڈا جو پھوڑا گیا ہے وہ یہ ہے کہ جی امریکہ، اسرائیل اور ہندوستان کے گٹھ جوڑ کے زیر اثر بدنام زمانہ بلیک واٹر اور متحدہ قومی موومنٹ نے سانحہ عاشورہ کی دہشت گردی کی ہے۔
آئیے جھوٹوں کو گھر تک چھوڑ کر آئیں۔ سب سے پہلے تو ہم اس برطانوی جریدے کا جائزہ لیتے ہیں جس کا نام دی لندن پوسٹرابطے کے صفحے پر کلک کریں تو آپ دیکھیں گے کہ وہاں صرف ای میل ایڈریسز درج ہیں۔ دی لندن پوسٹ نامی ویب سائٹ کا برطانیہ میں کوئی دفتر، کوئی نمائندہ، کوئی ڈسٹریبیوٹر حتی کہ کوئی مشتہر بھی نہیں ہے۔ اب ہم اشتہار کے صفحے پر جاتے ہیں۔ اس صفحے پر آپ کو ضرور مستند معلومات ملتی ہیں۔ کیونکہ ہر ویب سائٹ کو مشتہرین کی ضرورت ہوتی ہے۔
اشتہار بازی کے صفحے پر یوکے کے نیچے صرف ایک ای میل ایڈریس ہے۔ اور ایشیا کے نیچے پاکستان کا ایک موبائل نمبر کوئی لینڈ لائن نمبر بھی نہیں ہے۔ دونوں علاقوں کے لئے ایک ہی ای میل ایڈریس دیا گیا ہے۔ ہے۔ کسی بھی ویب سائٹ کی کریڈیبلیٹی جاننے کے لئے آپ کا براؤسر سب سے اہم ہتھیار ہے۔ ذرا
اب ہم اس ادارے کا جائزہ لیتے ہیں جو دی لندن پوسٹ کے ویب سائٹ کے مطابق ان کی مارکیٹنگ کا ذمہ دار ہے۔ دلچسپ بات یہ ہے کہ اس ادارے کا نہ ہی کوئی ویب سائٹ ہے اور نہ ہی کوئی اور سراغ۔ تمام انٹرنیٹ پر اس کا ذکر صرف دی لندن پوسٹ پر ہی نظر آتا ہے۔
مزید سراغ تلاش کرتے ہیں تو پتہ چلتا ہے کہ دی لندن پوسٹ نامی ویب سائٹ پاکستان کے شہر لاہور سے ہوسٹ کیا جاتا ہے۔ ملاحظہ فرمائے۔
اب ہم جاننے کی کوشش کرتے ہیں کہ اس مضمون کے لکھنے والے ڈاکٹر شاہد قریشی صاحب کون ہیں اور ان کی خود کی کریڈیبیلیٹی کیا ہے؟
ہم یہ جاننے سے بالکل قاصر ہیں کہ یہ شخص کون ہے کہاں رہتا ہے، کیا کرتا ہے وغیرہ۔ یہ خود کو ایک سیکیوریٹی اور سیاسی مبصر کی حیثیت سے متعارف کراتا ہے۔ مگر بے پناہ تحقیق کے باوجود ہم یہ نہیں جان پائے کہ یہ شخص کون ہے۔ محض ایک لنک ایسا ملا ہے جو پاکستان پیپلز پارٹی کے حامیوں کے بلاگ کا ہے۔
اس بلاگ پر ڈاکٹر شاہد قریشی نامی شخص کے بارے میں معلومات فراہم کرنے کی کوشش کی گئی ہے۔ بقول اس ویب سائٹ کے ڈاکٹر شاہد قریشی نامی شخص انٹرنیٹ پر بعض انتہائی پراسرار ویب سائٹس (جیسا کہ دی لندن پوسٹ) پر نفرت انگیز تحاریر لکھتا ہے۔ اس کی تحاریر زیادہ تر امریکہ، اسرائیل، بھارت، ایم کیو ایم اور قادیانی دشمنی پر مبنی ہوتی ہیں۔ میں نے اس کی چند تحاریر پڑھی ہیں آپ بھی تلاش کرکے پڑھئے کراچی اور اس کے اردو بولنے والے شہریوں اور ایم کیو ایم کے خلاف اپنے تعصب کو یہ شخص شائستگی کے پردے میں ڈھکنے کا بھی روادار نہیں ہے۔
آج کل کے دور میں اگر ویب پر مضامین لکھتے ہیں تو کسی کے لئے بھی یہ معلوم کرنا مشکل نہیں کہ آپ کون ہیں۔ مثال کے طور پر اگر آپ میرے بارے میں کچھ جاننا چاہتے ہیں تو میرا نام گوگل میں لکھنے سے آپ میرا بلاگ دیکھ سکتے ہیں، آپ فیس بک پر میری پروفائل دیکھ سکتے ہیں، آپ میری تعلیمی استعداد، میرے شوق، میں کیا کیا کام کرچکا ہوں اور کیا کرنا چاہتا ہوں، کہاں رہتا ہوں، میرا ای میل ایڈریس کیا ہے، میرا موبائل فون نمبر اور میرے انسٹنٹ مسینجر کی آڈیز۔ میرے خیالات کیا ہیں اور سیاسی طور پر میں کن نظریات کا حامل ہوں سب کچھ محض چند منٹوں میں معلوم کرسکتے ہیں۔ ایک نام نہاد سیکیوریٹی اور سیاسی مبصر جو ویب پر مضامین لکھتا ہے اس کے بارے میں انٹرنیٹ پر کسی بھی معلومات کا میسر نہ ہونا ایک بڑی مشکوک بات ہے۔
آپ ذرا اس بابت کچھ ذکر ہوجائے کہ ایم کیو ایم کے بارے میں یہ دعوی مضحکہ خیز کیوں ہے۔ جو مارکیٹیں جلائی گئی ہیں ان کے اکثر دکاندار نہ صرف ایم کیو ایم کے ووٹر ہیں بلکہ ایم کیو ایم کی مالی سپورٹ بھی کرتے رہے ہیں۔ ایم کیو ایم کے تمام چھوٹے بڑے رہنما تمام سانحے کے دوران جائے وقوع پر چھائے رہے۔ زخمیوں کی منتقلی سے لیکر آگ بجھانے تک۔ صفائی سے لیکر مارکیٹوں کی تعمیر نو تک۔ دکانداروں اور متاثرین کے شانہ بشانہ کھڑے ہیں۔ یہ پروپگینڈہ کراچی کی عوام کے لئے نہیں بلکہ پاکستان کی پختون اور پنجابی عوام کے لئے کیا جارہا ہے جو ویسے ہی ایم کیو ایم کو چاند گرہن سے لیکر پولیو تک کے لئے ہر برائی کا منبع سمجھنے کو ہر وقت ذہنی طور پر تیار رہتے ہیں۔ پروپگینڈے کا مقصد ایم کیو ایم اور کراچی کے خلاف تعصب کو مزید مضبوط کرنا ہے۔
اس سے بھی زیادہ افسوسناک رویہ انتہاپسندوں جیسا کہ لیاقت بلوچ کا وہ رویہ ہے جب وہ اس قسم کی غیر مصدقہ بڑبڑاہٹ کو بطور پروف پیش کرنے لگتے ہیں۔ یقینا لیاقت بلوچ صاحب کو بخوبی اندازہ ہے کہ یہ تحریر کس قدر بیوقوفانہ ہے۔ مگر کراچی اور ایم کیو ایم دشمنی کا رویہ ہمارے ملک میں ایسا ہی ہے جیسے یہودی دشمنی۔ جب بھی کسی مسئلے کی کوئی توجیہہ سامنے نہ آئے تو اسے پاکستان کے نئے صیہونیوں ایم کیو ایم کے سر منڈھ دو۔
پاکستان میں کبھی بھی کسی مسلم لیگی چاہے وہ قاف ہو یا نون، یا کسی پختون چاہے وہ سیکولر ہو یا انتہاپسند کبھی انہیں بھارتی ایجنٹ یا را موساد کا ٹیررسٹ قرار نہیں دیا جاتا۔ راولپنڈی، لاہور، اسلام آباد میں اتنے بم دھماکے ہوئے کسی لیگی پر الزام نہ لگا، کسی نے جماعت کو موردالزام نہ ٹہرایا حتی کہ وزیراعلی پنجاب جنوبی پنجاب کے طالبان تک کو موردالزام یا مشکوک ٹہرانے کو راضی نہیں۔ پشاور میں اسقدر خون بہا مگر کسی نے اے این پی، مولانا فضل الرحمان، یا کسی اور پختون سیاستدان کو موردالزام نہ ٹہرایا۔
پاکستان دشمنی کے یہ طعنے پہلے بنگالیوں پر ٹوٹے، پھر بلوچوں پر، سندھی قوم پرستوں پر اور ایم کیو ایم پر۔ ان تمام الزامات کے باوجود ایم کیو ایم یہاں موجود ہے اور اس بات کا کوئی امکان نہیں کہ یہ کہیں جائے۔ کیا ساٹھ سال میں ہم اتنے بھی بالغ النظر نہیں ہوئے کہ اپنے نسلی اور لسانی تعصبات سے جان چھڑا سکیں اور ان لوگوں کے درد کا سوچ سکیں جو پاکستان کو سالوں سے اربوں روپے کا ٹیکس، ہزاروں نوکریاں، اور ایک قابل بھروسہ معیشت فراہم کرتے رہے ہیں؟
دردمند پاکستانیوں سے اپیل ہے کہ وہ متعصب انتہاپسند، دہشت پسند اور طالبان پسند قسم کے عناصر سے دور رہیں اور ان کی ہر ممکن طریقے سے حوصلہ شکنی کریں۔ سوشل بائیکاٹ اس کا سب سے اہم ہتھیار ہے۔
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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ISLAMABAD: Inter Risk, the US security company which was banned in Pakistan, paid millions in bribes to Pakistani officials — and one staffer close to a minister has confessed that he received these bribes to issue 138 prohibited bore weapon licences.

The PS of the state minister for interior has already landed in jail for allegedly receiving the kickbacks to facilitate the issuance of 138 weapon licences to the Inter-Risk, the private US security company on contract in Pakistan, through his boss. The company’s licence was revoked some months back.


Sources say the ministry high-ups have withheld all the record wanted by the FIA for further investigations into the case. Qadir Nawaz, the PS hailing from the State Minister Tasneem Qureshi’s home district, has been sent to the Adiala Jail after his confession before the FIA that he received bribes in millions from the Inter-Risk.


This company was hired by DynCorp, a US contractor also working with the Pakistan Army Aviation. Qadir, together with the owner of Inter-Risk, Captain (retd) Zaidi and Jamil Abbasi, a Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaaf activist, who was a middleman between Zaidi and Qadir, are in jail now.
 

Night-Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
After Ashura attack in Karachi, a so called newspaper The London Post published a story that Karachi attack and after that attack arsoning and looting is done by MQM.
Not only this, the leader of Jamat e Munafiqeen( Jamat e Islami) leader Liaquat Baloch in Press conference referred to the same London Post, and accused MQM for Karachi Ashura attack.

But there is a saying in Urdu that Jhoot ka Paoon Nahi hottay, and People of Jamat e Islami has a habit of speaking lies but every time they speak lie, people of Karachi always caught them with their pants down, but the Hypocrites of Jamat e Islami never stop lying.

A guy from Karachi not only expose Jamat e Islami but also exposed the so called London post, and with proofs revealed that the London Post is run from LAHORE, PUNJAB.

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Here is the article from Noman .

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Here is for the existence of Dr. Shahid Qureshi ---- a rebuttal to your claim of his non existence

Watch from 2:10 and onwards. And his statements seem to be anti PPP. He is criticizing Zardari.
 

Night-Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
What's wrong with someone writing from London and his blog is maintained by someone in Lahore. The world is a global village now. Indians are maintaining several western websites and developing softwares for them while remaining in India. This is such a foolish argument to say that the blog is named Londonpost and is maintained in Lahore. There are several Pakistani blogs maintained in Canada and UK.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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DAWN.COM | Pakistan | Protectors of Americans make locals uncomfortable



PTI ( Imran Khan ) Collabaration With Black-Water

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Police high ups in a report sent to the government, said that Capt Zaidi also owned a company, Care and Craft, operating in Rawat. The company, along with an American private security company, DynCorp, imparted training to retired security personnel of the Special Services Group (SSG) for the security of US installations and diplomats in Pakistan. –AP/ File

Islamabad police who had caught a local private security agency -- InterRisk -- carrying on ‘anti-state activities’ in the service of Americans have handed over the investigations into the case to the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) on the orders of the Interior Ministry.
Though not formally announced, Dawn has learned that the reason given was that the nature of charges makes it the responsibility of FIA to probe the case which incidentally has all the makings of Blackwater covert operations in Pakistan under new names and with local partners.

The investigation was assigned to the FIA as some big shots, including officials in the Interior Ministry, were allegedly involved in arranging the licences of the prohibited bore and granting permission to the US embassy to import prohibited weapons.

Shortly after the orders, the two accused -- Capt (retd) Syed Alija Zaidi, owner of InterRisk security company and Jamil Abbasi, a facilitator who arranged the prohibited bore licences -- were handed over to the FIA.
 

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