Army unit set up by VK Singh carried out covert ops in Pakistan

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The military intelligence unit set up by former army chief General VK Singh was involved in sensitive covert operations in Pakistan and was even on the trail of 26/11 mastermind and Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Saeed, officials associated with it have told HT.


“Our main task was to combat the rising trend of state-sponsored terrorism by the ISI and we had developed contacts across the Line of Control in a bid to infiltrate Hafiz Saeed’s inner circle,” an official who served with the controversial Technical Services Division (TSD) said.


Asked for an official response, an army spokesperson said, “The unit has been disbanded. Details of the unit, which was the subject matter of an inquiry, are only known to the Chief and a few senior officers. It is for the defence ministry now to initiate any further inquiries.”

The spook unit was set up after the 26/11 Mumbai attacks on a defence ministry directive asking for the creation of covert capability.
Army documents, perused by HT, reveal the senior-most officers signed off on the formation of this unit. File No A/106/TSD and 71018/ MI give details of approvals by the Director General Military Intelligence, vice-chief and chief of army staff.


The TSD — disbanded after allegations that it spied on defence ministry officials through off-the-air interceptors — was raised as a strategic force multiplier for preparing, planning and executing special operations “inside depth areas of countries of interest and countering enemy efforts within the country by effective covert means”.


But it then got caught in an internecine battle between army chiefs. The TSD – which reported directly to Gen VK Singh — used secret service funds to initiate a PIL against current chief General Bikram Singh. As reported by HT in October 2012, secret funds were paid to an NGO to file the PIL, in a bid to stall Bikram Singh’s appointment as chief.


However, covert ops were the unit’s essential mandate and deniability was built into it and it reads, “The proposed organization (TSD) will enable the military intelligence directorate to provide a quick response to any act of state-sponsored terrorism with a high degree of deniability.”


Its task was to carry out special missions and “cover any tracks leading to the organisation”.


Though covert operations were formally shut down by IK Gujral when he was PM in 1997, sources reveal the TSD carried out several such operations within and outside the country — such as Op Rehbar 1, 2 and 3 (in Kashmir), Op Seven Sisters (Northeast) and Op Deep Strike (Pakistan).


Controversy is dogging the unit once again after disclosures in The Indian Express that secret service funds were also used to destabilize the Omar Abdullah government in Jammu and Kashmir. The BJP has raised questions over the timing of the disclosures.

While the defence ministry has had the inquiry report since March, the revelations have come soon after Singh shared the stage with the saffron party’s PM candidate Narendra Modi last Sunday.

Harinder Baweja, Hindustan Times New Delhi, September 21, 2013
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India...-covert-ops-in-Pakistan/Article1-1125008.aspx
 
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Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Indian Army Admits carrying out Covert OPs in Pakistan

You posted this piece of crap because? Fact that they were in LoC yet according to them crossing of mumbai attackers happened at sea!!
 

ammadk

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Indian Army Admits carrying out Covert OPs in Pakistan

yeh ko VK singh hai jo aj kal aik plot k pechy main adalton k chakry lga raha hai...[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]
 

Pakistan1992

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
India Admits of Terrorism in Pakistan And Kashmir (STATE SPONSORING TERRORISM)

[h=1]Army spook unit carried out covert ops in[/h] [h=1]Pakistan[/h] [h=1](Hindustan Times)[/h] The military intelligence unit set up by former army chief General VK Singh was involved in sensitive covert operations in Pakistan and was even on the trail of 26/11 mastermind and Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Saeed, officials associated with it have told HT.
Our main task was to combat the rising trend of state-sponsored terrorism by the ISI and we had developed contacts across the Line of Control in a bid to infiltrate Hafiz Saeeds inner circle, an official who served with the controversial Technical Services Division (TSD) said.

Asked for an official response, an army spokesperson said, The unit has been disbanded. Details of the unit, which was the subject matter of an inquiry, are only known to the Chief and a few senior officers. It is for the defence ministry now to initiate any further inquiries.

The spook unit was set up after the 26/11 Mumbai attacks on a defence ministry directive asking for the creation of covert capability.

Army documents, perused by HT, reveal the senior-most officers signed off on the formation of this unit. File No A/106/TSD and 71018/ MI give details of approvals by the Director General Military Intelligence, vice-chief and chief of army staff.
The TSD disbanded after allegations that it spied on defence ministry officials through off-the-air interceptors was raised as a strategic force multiplier for preparing, planning and executing special operations inside depth areas of countries of interest and countering enemy efforts within the country by effective covert means.

But it then got caught in an internecine battle between army chiefs. The TSD which reported directly to Gen VK Singh used secret service funds to initiate a PIL against current chief General Bikram Singh. As reported by HT in October 2012, secret funds were paid to an NGO to file the PIL, in a bid to stall Bikram Singhs appointment as chief.

However, covert ops were the units essential mandate and deniability was built into it and it reads, The proposed organization (TSD) will enable the military intelligence directorate to provide a quick response to any act of state-sponsored terrorism with a high degree of deniability.
Its task was to carry out special missions and cover any tracks leading to the organisation.

Though covert operations were formally shut down by IK Gujral when he was PM in 1997, sources reveal the TSD carried out several such operations within and outside the country such as Op Rehbar 1, 2 and 3 (in Kashmir), Op Seven Sisters (Northeast) and Op Deep Strike (Pakistan).
Controversy is dogging the unit once again after disclosures in The Indian Express that secret service funds were also used to destabilize the Omar Abdullah government in Jammu and Kashmir. The BJP has raised questions over the timing of the disclosures.

While the defence ministry has had the inquiry report since March, the revelations have come soon after Singh shared the stage with the saffron partys PM candidate Narendra Modi last Sunday.

Published in Hundustan Times on 21 Sept: http://www.hindustantimes.com/India...-covert-ops-in-Pakistan/Article1-1125008.aspx

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the.paki

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: India Admits of Terrorism in Pakistan And Kashmir (STATE SPONSORING TERRORISM)

ہمیں تو یہ پہلے سے پتا ہے
اور یہی دشمن کا کام بھی ہے
اور اسی وجہ سے ہم نے اتنی بڑی فوج بھی رکھی ہوئی ہے

دشمن تو اپنا کام سہی سے کر رہا ہے
سوال یہ ہے کہ کیا ہمارے محافظ بھی سہی کام کر رہے ہے ؟؟

 

Pakistan1992

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: India Admits of Terrorism in Pakistan And Kashmir (STATE SPONSORING TERRORISM)

ہمیں تو یہ پہلے سے پتا ہے
اور یہی دشمن کا کام بھی ہے
اور اسی وجہ سے ہم نے اتنی بڑی فوج بھی رکھی ہوئی ہے

دشمن تو اپنا کام سہی سے کر رہا ہے
سوال یہ ہے کہ کیا ہمارے محافظ بھی سہی کام کر رہے ہے ؟؟

kahi tum Asma jengahir ya HM ke realtive tu nahi ho, kiya har kam army ka hota hai, poli ka koi kam nahi?
 

Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
پاکستان میں دشت گردی کا بھارتی اعتراف

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hans

Banned
Re: پاکستان میں دشت گردی کا بھارتی اعتراف

In the past so many years ... how many Clandestine operation has Pakistan carried out against India?????

Both sides, play the same game.

Why cry?

OH!!! thats another story, when India plays its game, it usually win.
 

KHALIFA.

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: پاکستان میں دشت گردی کا بھارتی اعتراف

I heard recently .. authorities found dead body of Hafiz saeed's close man near sheikhupura.. .. agencies already know about this
 

auqab

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: India accepts terrorism in Pakistan done its military

shuker hae bharat nae khud hi itraaf ker lia werna hamari hukomat ya fauj mae to itna dam nahi jo khul ker bharat ka nam lae sakae!

thnx india!
 

aazad.mubassir

Minister (2k+ posts)
Army spook unit carried out covert ops in Pakistan

The military intelligence unit set up by former army chief General VK Singh was involved in sensitive covert operations in Pakistan and was even on the trail of 26/11 mastermind and Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Saeed, officials associated with it have told HT.

“Our main task was to combat the rising trend of state-sponsored terrorism by the ISI and we had developed contacts across the Line of Control in a bid to infiltrate Hafiz Saeed’s inner circle,” an official who served with the controversial Technical Services Division (TSD) said.

Asked for an official response, an army spokesperson said, “The unit has been disbanded. Details of the unit, which was the subject matter of an inquiry, are only known to the Chief and a few senior officers. It is for the defence ministry now to initiate any further inquiries.”

The spook unit was set up after the 26/11 Mumbai attacks on a defence ministry directive asking for the creation of covert capability.

Army documents, perused by HT, reveal the senior-most officers signed off on the formation of this unit. File No A/106/TSD and 71018/ MI give details of approvals by the Director General Military Intelligence, vice-chief and chief of army staff.

The TSD — disbanded after allegations that it spied on defence ministry officials through off-the-air interceptors — was raised as a strategic force multiplier for preparing, planning and executing special operations “inside depth areas of countries of interest and countering enemy efforts within the country by effective covert means”.

Its task was to carry out special missions and “cover any tracks leading to the organisation”.

Though covert operations were formally shut down by IK Gujral when he was PM in 1997, sources reveal the TSD carried out several such operations within and outside the country — such as Op Rehbar 1, 2 and 3 (in Kashmir), Op Seven Sisters (Northeast) and Op Deep Strike (Pakistan).

Controversy is dogging the unit once again after disclosures in The Indian Express that secret service funds were also used to destabilize the Omar Abdullah government in Jammu and Kashmir. The BJP has raised questions over the timing of the disclosures. While the defence ministry has had the inquiry report since March, the revelations have come soon after Singh shared the stage with the saffron party’s PM candidate Narendra Modi last Sunday.

VIDEO: Making VK Singh's operation public threat to country: Bharat Verma


http://www.hindustantimes.com/India...-covert-ops-in-Pakistan/Article1-1125008.aspx
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Even though RAW has admitted in being involved in covert operations Bharatis still believe their intelligence agencies are angels in disguise. They (cry)(cry)(cry) when ISI does the same!
 

Muslimonly

Senator (1k+ posts)
Indian Army carried covert operations in Pakistan -Hindustan Times

Army spook unit carried out covert ops in Pakistan

Harinder Baweja, Hindustan Times New Delhi, September 21, 2013
First Published: 00:07 IST(21/9/2013) | Last Updated: 14:51 IST(21/9/2013)


The military intelligence unit set up by former army chief General VK Singh was involved in sensitive covert operations in Pakistan and was even on the trail of 26/11 mastermind and Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Saeed, officials associated with it have told HT.

Our main task was to combat the rising trend of state-sponsored terrorism by the ISI and we had developed contacts across the Line of Control in a bid to infiltrate Hafiz Saeeds inner circle, an official who served with the controversial Technical Services Division (TSD) said.

Asked for an official response, an army spokesperson said, The unit has been disbanded. Details of the unit, which was the subject matter of an inquiry, are only known to the Chief and a few senior officers. It is for the defence ministry now to initiate any further inquiries.

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The spook unit was set up after the 26/11 Mumbai attacks on a defence ministry directive asking for the creation of covert capability. Army documents, perused by HT, reveal the senior-most officers signed off on the formation of this unit. File No A/106/TSD and 71018/ MI give details of approvals by the Director General Military Intelligence, vice-chief and chief of army staff.

The TSD disbanded after allegations that it spied on defence ministry officials through off-the-air interceptors was raised as a strategic force multiplier for preparing, planning and executing special operations inside depth areas of countries of interest and countering enemy efforts within the country by effective covert means.

But it then got caught in an internecine battle between army chiefs. The TSD which reported directly to Gen VK Singh used secret service funds to initiate a PIL against current chief General Bikram Singh. As reported by HT in October 2012, secret funds were paid to an NGO to file the PIL, in a bid to stall Bikram Singhs appointment as chief.

However, covert ops were the units essential mandate and deniability was built into it and it reads, The proposed organization (TSD) will enable the military intelligence directorate to provide a quick response to any act of state-sponsored terrorism with a high degree of deniability.

Its task was to carry out special missions and cover any tracks leading to the organisation.

Though covert operations were formally shut down by IK Gujral when he was PM in 1997, sources reveal the TSD carried out several such operations within and outside the country such as Op Rehbar 1, 2 and 3 (in Kashmir), Op Seven Sisters (Northeast) and Op Deep Strike (Pakistan).

Controversy is dogging the unit once again after disclosures in The Indian Express that secret service funds were also used to destabilize the Omar Abdullah government in Jammu and Kashmir. The BJP has raised questions over the timing of the disclosures. While the defence ministry has had the inquiry report since March, the revelations have come soon after Singh shared the stage with the saffron partys PM candidate Narendra Modi last Sunday.

VIDEO: Making VK Singh's operation public threat to country: Bharat Verma
 
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sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Indian Army carried covert operations in Pakistan -Hindustan Times

''Ohh Pakistanis ! You should keep your eyes closed, let the cat do her job.''
 

ali-raj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Taliban name body to further talks process-25 out of 30 Taliban groups agree on talks: Hameed Gul

PESHAWAR: The Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has constituted a monitoring committee to advance the talks process with the government.

Comprising representatives from militant organisations, the new committee will closely observe the contacts made by both sides and will make the talks process more effective. The decision to make the committee was taken in a joint meeting of all the militant organisations held at a secret place in the North Waziristan Agency (NWA).

According to sources, the meeting was presided over by Sirajuddin of Haqqani network, while TTP chief Hakimullah Mahsud, TTP chief of NWA Khalid, commander Khalid Umar, commander Abu Zubair, Maulana Abdun Nasir, Asmatullah Muawia, Maulvi Faqirullah, Maulana Saeed, commander Abdul Latif, commander Shaheen, commander Abdur Rahman, commander Umar Khalid Khuryani, commander Jamshed Ansari and commander Usama Ghaznavi also participated in it.

According to sources, the committee will not only monitor contacts with the government but also oversee other activities of militants.The sources said that by dissociating itself from the Kohati Bazar church attack, the TTP seemed to be taking the talks process forward. They are also waiting for solid steps from the government.


http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-25637-Taliban-name-body-to-further-talks-process


ISLAMABAD: Former head of the ISI Lt Gen (retd) Hameed Gul has said that 25 out of 30 groups of the Taliban have agreed to sit on the negotiation table following the unanimous resolution of the All Pakistan Conference (APC).

He said only five groups of the Taliban, “which were getting aid from India, Israel and the US,” were opposing the negotiations offer. He expressed these views during a special interview on Monday night.

Hameed Gul said that the government should stick to the decision which was taken unanimously by all the parties at the occasion of the APC led by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. He said that the Pakistani nation would become safe and sound from the conspiracies of enemies by keeping on the path of peace despite the martyrdom of Major General Sanaullah and his companions in a landmine blast and the Peshawar church carnage.

He said that Quaid-e-Azam had withdrawn the Pakistan Army from posts on the Durand Line adjacent to Afghanistan in 48 hours through the Curzon operation in March 1948 and today it should not be pulled out from Fata on the conditions of the Taliban.

Hameed Gul held Qazi Fazlullah of Swat, who was given asylum by Afghanistan and was getting support of India, responsible for the carnage at the Peshawar church and killing of Major General Sanaullah and his companions. He said that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had to pull the nation out of the war on terror through far-sightedness instead of emotions by displaying high courage.

He supported the statement of Ayman al Zawahiri that there should be an Islamic code of life in Pakistan and termed it in accordance with the Constitution of Pakistan and Resolution of Pakistan. He slammed the propaganda reports of New York Times and Washington Post that Taliban could get nuclear weapons.

He said the US had weakened the Muslim countries by pitting their armies with their public and after that used its force there.General (R) Hameed Gul said that the US was using all tactics to weaken the nuclear equipped forces of Pakistan. He said that Pakistan had sacrificed over 40,000 civilians and military personnel in war on terror and establishing everlasting peace was better than occurring of terrorism incidents whether further price had to be paid in this regard. He said that there was no matter in pulling out army from Fata when peace was restored there.


http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-25651-25-out-of-30-Taliban-groups-agree-on-talks-Hameed-Gul



اسلام آباد (حنیف خالد) آج آئی ایس آئی کے سابق سربراہ لیفٹیننٹ جنرل (ریٹائرڈ) حمید گل نے کہا ہے کہ پاکستان کو طالبان کے ساتھ مذاکرات کے اس فیصلے پر قائم رہنا چاہئے جو وزیراعظم نوازشریف کے زیر صدارت آل پارٹیز کانفرنس میں شریک ملک کی تمام بڑی سیاسی جماعتوں نے اتفاق رائے سے کیا۔ پاکستان آرمی کے میجر جنرل ثناء اللہ، ان کے رفقا بارودی سرنگ کے ذریعے اڑانے کے واقعے اور سانحہ پشاور چرچ کے باوجود امن کی راہ پر قائم رہ کر پاکستانی قوم دشمن کی سازشوں سے محفوظ بن جائے گی۔ قائداعظم نے مارچ 1948 میں کرزن آپریشن کے ذریعے 48 گھنٹوں کے اندر افغانستان سے ملنے والی ڈیورنڈ لائن پر موجود چھائونیوں سے پاکستانی فو ج واپس بلا لی تھی آج طالبان کی شرائط پر فاٹا سے فوج واپس نہیں بلانی چاہئے۔ طالبان اور پاکستان کے درمیان جنگ بندی فوری ہونی چاہئے۔ ان کی اطلاع کے مطابق طالبان کے 30 میں سے 25 گروپ اے پی سی کی متفقہ قرارداد کے تحت مذاکرات کی میز پر بیٹھنے پر آمادہ ہو گئے ہیں صرف 5 گروپ جنہیں بھارت، اسرائیل اور امریکا سے امداد مل رہی ہے وہ مذاکرات کی مخالفت کر رہے ہیں۔

سوات کے قاضی فضل اللہ جنہیں افغانستان نے پناہ دے رکھی ہے اور جنہیں بھارت کی تائید حاصل ہے پشاور چرچ حملے اور میجر جنرل ثناء اللہ اور ان کے ساتھیوں کی شہادت کے ذمہ دار ہیں۔ وزیراعظم نوازشریف کو بلند حوصلگی کا مظاہرہ کرتے ہوئے قوم کو دہشتگردی کی جنگ سے جذبات کی بجائے دوراندیشی کے ساتھ نکالنا ہو گا۔ وہ پیر کی شب جنگ کو خصوصی انٹرویو دے رہے تھے۔ انہوں نے کہا ایمن الظواہری کا پیر کے دن کا یہ بیان کہ پاکستان میں اسلامی نظام حیات ہونا چاہئے پاکستان کے آئین اور قرارداد مقاصد کے عین مطابق ہے۔

جنرل حمید گل نے کہا کہ 23 ستمبر کے نیویارک ٹائمز نے اور اس سے قبل واشنگٹن پوسٹ نے پاکستان دشمنی کی انتہا کر دی اور یہ پراپیگنڈہ شروع کر دیا کہ پاکستان نے جو ایٹم بم بنا لئے ہیں وہ طالبان کے ہاتھ لگ سکتے ہیں۔ آئی ایس آئی کے سابق سربراہ نے کہا کہ امریکا نے مسلم ممالک کی افواج کو وہاں کی عوام کے ساتھ لڑوا کر بے حد کمزور کیا۔ اس کے بعد وہاں طاقت کا استعمال کیا۔ جنرل حمید گل نے کہا کہ الجزائر، لیبیا، عراق، مصر اور اب شام میں امریکا وہاں کی مسلمان فوج کو اپنے ہی عوام سے لڑا کر جب کمزور بنا رہا ہے تو وہ ایٹمی ہتھیاروں سے لیس پاکستان کی افواج کو کمزور سے کمزور تر بنانے کے لئے ہر حربے استعمال کرنے لگا ہے۔
 
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mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Taliban name body to further talks process-25 out of 30 Taliban groups agree on talks: Hameed Gul

Why are these so called patriotic TTP is allowing these five groups that are receiving aid from India, US and Israel to be part of them?
 

molson4u

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Taliban name body to further talks process-25 out of 30 Taliban groups agree on talks: Hameed Gul

This is Taliban animal loves views. Who doesn't know gen hamid gul? There are through out these news to cool of the sentiment of the people who are up roar with the church incident. Now all of a sudden 25 animals want place in a zoo. no thanks. We don't trust these stories.

Taliban Animals should be disarmed and brought to justice PERIOD. No dialogue is needed and they should start with trying Gen. Hamid Gul for making these monsters.
 

ali-raj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Taliban name body to further talks process-25 out of 30 Taliban groups agree on talks: Hameed Gul

If you cannot differentiate between your enemeis and friends, you are as good as dead.

Talibans (Afghan, originated in karachi, Banoria Town) are not against Pakistan or any Muslim. they are against American oppresion, which was done in the name of 9/11, against every muslim.

There are factions in TTP as well, which are mostly history sheeters from various areas of Pakistan. we need to focus on them and eliminate them. It can only happen, when we are able to differentiate, and come to some understanding with better factions.

The same turbulent area was once a safe heaven for Pakistan. Our border line was safe, but thanks to America, now we are fighting with them.
It is just like a home, where 2-3 brothers have different opinion for every thing, and they fight for rights. but like every home, if we allow the outsiders to pull our strings, then a disaster happens, in form of split homes and family.

Upper Management of Pak Army is not sincere with Pakistan any more, otherwise, they could have asked Hafiz Saeed to root out and eliminate the rotten apples.

You can only bring these people to justice, by giving them justice. Stop Drones & American War.