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roshansachai
Senator (1k+ posts)
agar yeh sach hai to accountability honi chahiyay...hum tumhari tarha nahi hain kay dakoo zardari ki har buri baat ko bhi support karain...
Pakistani1947
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
PTI MNAs are unlike Noora League and Dakoo Zardari League (PPP) are from common people. It is very obvious that very few common Pakistanis earn sufficiently to be able to pay tax.
Readers may be familiar with an inspirational slogan of the American Revolution: No taxation without representation. It originating somewhere in the 1750-1760s and was a rallying call by people living in the Colonies, who resented the imposition of taxes by Britain since the levy was done without the expressed will of the people (of the Colonies).
In Pakistan, an arguably perverse view of this American proclamation has been in vogue for some time now: No taxation with representation, which means that rich Pakistanis, including a significant percentage of members of the National Assembly and provincial legislatures pay next to nothing in tax, forcing the government to rely on foreign assistance to prop up finances.
In the past, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that Pakistan must tax its elite if it wants to continue receiving financial assistance and for this she came in for some heavy criticism in Pakistan. To quote what she said: This is one of my pet peeves: countries that will not tax their elite but who expect us to come in and help them serve their people are just not going to get the kind of help from us that historically they may have. Pakistan cannot have a tax-to-GDP rate of nine per cent when land owners and all the other elites do not pay anything or pay so little its laughable. And then when theres a problem everybody expects the US and others to come in and help.
British Prime Minister David Cameron also spoke on this point, recently, in interactions with Pakistani leaders and is reported to have said that aid increases were a hard sell when too many of your richest people are getting away without paying much tax at all. Clinton and Cameron live in societies where to quote Benjamin Franklin The only things certain in life are death and taxes.
Pakistans heavy dependence on foreign assistance impacts national sovereignty and has led to a ballooning debt-to-GDP ratio, which now stands at 30 per cent. This has meant that thelargest chunk in the 2012-13 budget will be that of debt servicing. This becomes a drag on economic growth because resources are being used to finance what is essentially a purely non-productive item. Normally, low-income countries have tax-to-GDP ratios of 15-18 per cent. Middle-income countries have tax-to-GDP ratios ranging between 22-25 per cent, while the figure for high income countries is around 40 per cent. Quite clearly, Pakistans tax-to-GDP ratio needs to increase so that the burden of financing the deficit doesnt lie on borrowing from foreign countries or foreign multilateral lending organisations. This, however, does not necessarily mean levying higher or punitive taxes, which can stifle growth but through fighting tax evasion and by making tax collection more efficient.
Equitable taxation is particularly important in a country where the rich-poor disconnect has been increasing over time. A 2010 study estimated that 32 per cent of Pakistans population of 180 million subsists below the poverty line. According to the most recent UN Human Development Index, 60.3 per cent live on an income of less than two dollars a day. One consequence of the yawning rich-poor gap is that it is exploited by extremists.
Pakistans rich have historically paid little of their share in taxes. It has been estimated that the landowning classes have been evading taxes to the tune of over $1.2 billion a year. While the number of national lawmakers from feudal families represented in the countrys feudal democracy appears to be shrinking primarily due to increased urbanisation, their financial clout seems undiminished. The average worth of a member of parliament is $900,000, with the richest member worth over $37 million, according to a recent study by the Pakistan Institute of Legislative Development and Transparency.
There are periodic reports in the media which give the impression that certain politicians, their wives and dependent children have amassed huge assets and which should require due scrutiny by tax authorities. These reports suggest further that the assets amassed by politicians, their wives and dependent children were either not subjected to scrutiny by various tax jurisdictions or are highly understated. There is a need for a correct valuation of the amassed assets of politicians, their wives and dependent children, as in its absence, the tax burden on existing tax payers is unfairly increased. Since the politicians are rich themselves and happily evading taxes, there is little will to change the system.
Exempting agriculture from taxation imposes a heavy burden on the rest of the economy and is one of the main reasons why there is usually a deficit between what the government collects in tax revenue and what it wants to spend in a budgeting year. Furthermore, given its tax-exempt status, transfers from other sectors of the economy to agriculture are commonplace. Also, since the government cannot seem to broaden the tax base by including agriculture in the tax net, the other option is to rely on indirect taxes. The problem with these are that they disproportionately affect the poor and less well-off, since they spend more on items like fuel and food as a percentage of income than more affluent people. This in turn further skews an already unequal distribution of income, and gives rise to arguments that instead of taxing the rich, the government is making life tougher for a section of the population that already lives a miserable existence. It would certainly be helpful, if external aid providers use their leverage with the Pakistani government, to insist that hitherto untaxed or under-taxed sectors be brought under the tax net.
An equitable national tax policy requires that everyone and every sector with a potential tax liability tax should be taxed. A tax must be perceived as fair and universal. Those who have little should pay little, but they should pay something, anything that displays a commitment to the nation and its goals. The politically and economically powerful elite must demonstrate their stake in society by carrying its share of the tax burden.
Published In The Express Tribune, June 7[SUP]th[/SUP], 2012.
Readers may be familiar with an inspirational slogan of the American Revolution: No taxation without representation. It originating somewhere in the 1750-1760s and was a rallying call by people living in the Colonies, who resented the imposition of taxes by Britain since the levy was done without the expressed will of the people (of the Colonies).
In Pakistan, an arguably perverse view of this American proclamation has been in vogue for some time now: No taxation with representation, which means that rich Pakistanis, including a significant percentage of members of the National Assembly and provincial legislatures pay next to nothing in tax, forcing the government to rely on foreign assistance to prop up finances.
In the past, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that Pakistan must tax its elite if it wants to continue receiving financial assistance and for this she came in for some heavy criticism in Pakistan. To quote what she said: This is one of my pet peeves: countries that will not tax their elite but who expect us to come in and help them serve their people are just not going to get the kind of help from us that historically they may have. Pakistan cannot have a tax-to-GDP rate of nine per cent when land owners and all the other elites do not pay anything or pay so little its laughable. And then when theres a problem everybody expects the US and others to come in and help.
British Prime Minister David Cameron also spoke on this point, recently, in interactions with Pakistani leaders and is reported to have said that aid increases were a hard sell when too many of your richest people are getting away without paying much tax at all. Clinton and Cameron live in societies where to quote Benjamin Franklin The only things certain in life are death and taxes.
Pakistans heavy dependence on foreign assistance impacts national sovereignty and has led to a ballooning debt-to-GDP ratio, which now stands at 30 per cent. This has meant that thelargest chunk in the 2012-13 budget will be that of debt servicing. This becomes a drag on economic growth because resources are being used to finance what is essentially a purely non-productive item. Normally, low-income countries have tax-to-GDP ratios of 15-18 per cent. Middle-income countries have tax-to-GDP ratios ranging between 22-25 per cent, while the figure for high income countries is around 40 per cent. Quite clearly, Pakistans tax-to-GDP ratio needs to increase so that the burden of financing the deficit doesnt lie on borrowing from foreign countries or foreign multilateral lending organisations. This, however, does not necessarily mean levying higher or punitive taxes, which can stifle growth but through fighting tax evasion and by making tax collection more efficient.
Equitable taxation is particularly important in a country where the rich-poor disconnect has been increasing over time. A 2010 study estimated that 32 per cent of Pakistans population of 180 million subsists below the poverty line. According to the most recent UN Human Development Index, 60.3 per cent live on an income of less than two dollars a day. One consequence of the yawning rich-poor gap is that it is exploited by extremists.
Pakistans rich have historically paid little of their share in taxes. It has been estimated that the landowning classes have been evading taxes to the tune of over $1.2 billion a year. While the number of national lawmakers from feudal families represented in the countrys feudal democracy appears to be shrinking primarily due to increased urbanisation, their financial clout seems undiminished. The average worth of a member of parliament is $900,000, with the richest member worth over $37 million, according to a recent study by the Pakistan Institute of Legislative Development and Transparency.
There are periodic reports in the media which give the impression that certain politicians, their wives and dependent children have amassed huge assets and which should require due scrutiny by tax authorities. These reports suggest further that the assets amassed by politicians, their wives and dependent children were either not subjected to scrutiny by various tax jurisdictions or are highly understated. There is a need for a correct valuation of the amassed assets of politicians, their wives and dependent children, as in its absence, the tax burden on existing tax payers is unfairly increased. Since the politicians are rich themselves and happily evading taxes, there is little will to change the system.
Exempting agriculture from taxation imposes a heavy burden on the rest of the economy and is one of the main reasons why there is usually a deficit between what the government collects in tax revenue and what it wants to spend in a budgeting year. Furthermore, given its tax-exempt status, transfers from other sectors of the economy to agriculture are commonplace. Also, since the government cannot seem to broaden the tax base by including agriculture in the tax net, the other option is to rely on indirect taxes. The problem with these are that they disproportionately affect the poor and less well-off, since they spend more on items like fuel and food as a percentage of income than more affluent people. This in turn further skews an already unequal distribution of income, and gives rise to arguments that instead of taxing the rich, the government is making life tougher for a section of the population that already lives a miserable existence. It would certainly be helpful, if external aid providers use their leverage with the Pakistani government, to insist that hitherto untaxed or under-taxed sectors be brought under the tax net.
An equitable national tax policy requires that everyone and every sector with a potential tax liability tax should be taxed. A tax must be perceived as fair and universal. Those who have little should pay little, but they should pay something, anything that displays a commitment to the nation and its goals. The politically and economically powerful elite must demonstrate their stake in society by carrying its share of the tax burden.
Published In The Express Tribune, June 7[SUP]th[/SUP], 2012.
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gorgias
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
افوہ!! ہم سمجھے شاید ان ایم پی ایز کے سوئس بینک میں اکاونٹ ہیں یا سرے محل ہیں یا شائد ان کی بیویوں کے ہار برطانوئی حکومت کے پاس ہیں۔
پہلے یہ دیکھیں کہ یہ ایم پی اے کیا کرتے ہیں؟ کیا ان کا کوئی کاروبار ہےَ؟
پی ٹی آئی کا ایک وزیر ایسا بھی تھا جس کا گیس کاکنکشن عدم ادائیگی کی بنا کر کٹا تھا۔جس کے بارے میں انہوں نے کہا تھا کہ ان کے پاس بل ادا کرنے کے پیسے نہیں بچے تھے۔
دراصل اس سے پہلے کسی عام آدمی کو کبھی اسمبلی پہنچنے ہی نہیں دیا گیا۔ سب سرمایہ دار ہوتے تھے۔ یہ راستہ پی ٹی آئی نے کھولا ہے۔اس لیے اینکر صاحب کو تشویش ہے کہ ان کے ٹیکس کے گوشوارے کہاں ہیں۔
پہلے یہ دیکھیں کہ یہ ایم پی اے کیا کرتے ہیں؟ کیا ان کا کوئی کاروبار ہےَ؟
پی ٹی آئی کا ایک وزیر ایسا بھی تھا جس کا گیس کاکنکشن عدم ادائیگی کی بنا کر کٹا تھا۔جس کے بارے میں انہوں نے کہا تھا کہ ان کے پاس بل ادا کرنے کے پیسے نہیں بچے تھے۔
دراصل اس سے پہلے کسی عام آدمی کو کبھی اسمبلی پہنچنے ہی نہیں دیا گیا۔ سب سرمایہ دار ہوتے تھے۔ یہ راستہ پی ٹی آئی نے کھولا ہے۔اس لیے اینکر صاحب کو تشویش ہے کہ ان کے ٹیکس کے گوشوارے کہاں ہیں۔
Unlettered
Senator (1k+ posts)
The funny thing is why was he telling this to Amin Fahim instead if any PTI leader?
musafirhoonyaro
Senator (1k+ posts)
First of all, to say that they did not pay even a single rupee of tax will be wrong........Regardless what else they earn other than their salaries as an MNA or MPA, they must have paid something in taxes. Because salaries are always paid after tax deduction when income gets into taxable bracket. Whoever earns a salary especially from a govt dept. cannot escape taxes at all........either he is talking about their past returns when they were not MNA/MPA yet or he is not telling the truth………I cannot really say if he is lying as we need to listen to the whole argument not just a tiny clip to make up our mind.
May I please request admin to either post the whole program or refrain from posting little clips like that which only creates confusion!
May I please request admin to either post the whole program or refrain from posting little clips like that which only creates confusion!
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Silent_voter
Citizen
without watching video If any body is culprit inside the PTI he shall be punished First. As Imran Khan stated put me in front of Justice. So we support you in this matter if they are proved to be culprit hang them first so that who ever decide/think to join PTI first he clean himself.
There are many things to take into consideration here. Firstly, these are statements which were provided by FBR to election commission prior to May 2013 elections. Some of these statements were incomplete. A case in point being Arif Alvi who subsequently showed his tax return to remove the confusion. There will surely be others like this whose record was not updated. Secondly, some of the MNAs like Murad Saeed for example have no prior sources of income and so are not required to file a return. If there are any who earn but have not filed a return then they should be taken to task.
musafirhoonyaro
Senator (1k+ posts)
Tax na daina aur tax chori kerna in men faraq hai.......TAX NA DAINA ADHA SUCH HAI.......PURA SUCH BOLENN.....
shahzadi mughal
Senator (1k+ posts)
qalandri sahab baat incomplete hai okay we know our leaders cant cheat us insha ALLAH they will be answerable,if it is true????????
