Analysis of Pak By- Elections, Nawaz Sharif's Speech and Musharraf's Indictment

RiazHaq

Senator (1k+ posts)
http://www.riazhaq.com/2013/08/pti-and-jui-f-losses-in-bye-polls.html

Last week in Pakistan was eventful. By-elections were held. Former President Pervez Musharraf was indicted. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif addressed the nation and laid out his plans.

Pakistan By-elections:

By-elections were held on 41 national and provincial assembly seats. PTI and JUI-F lost key seats, while PML (N), PPP, MQM and ANP did much better than PTI, JUI (F) and JI. Are KPK voter sending a warning to PTI to shape up?

Musharraf's Indictment:

Forner President Musharraf was indicted for Benazir Bhutto's murder. The indictment rests entirely on Mark Siegel's statement about Benazir Bhutto's fears.

In a piece published this week inForeign Affairs journal, UN Assistant Secretary General Heraldo Munoz looked at all the facts surrounding BB murder and allegations against Pervez Musharraf, and concluded as follows: "But all that does not constitute proof of culpability. Even Bhutto, despite her e-mail pointing a finger at Musharraf, did not believe that Musharraf wanted her dead--only that some people around him did."

Meanwhile, most media commentators and pundits are playing up the fact that a former general has been brought before the court to answer. There is no discussion of the substance and merits of the case.

Gallup Poll on Musharraf:

At about the same as the former president was being indicted, a Gallup poll showed that Pervez Musharraf remains a popular figure with 59% of Pakistanis having a positive view of the former president. 31% favorable and 28% satisfactory.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's Speech:

Sharif addressed the nation to talk about his plans to tackle economic crisis and talk with terrorists without insisting on a ceasefire. He also threatened to use force if talks don't produce results.

Sharif also made the fantastic claim that Pakistan was on its way to "become an Asian Tiger" when he was removed in 1999, ignoring well-documented data showing that Pakistan was bankrupt and heavily indebted at the end of Sharif's last stint as prime minister.

Sharif also talked about Pakistan's current debt situation as being worse than ever. This, too, is false. As percentage of GDP, the debt situation in 1999 was far worse. Pakistan's debt was nearly equal to its GDP in 1999, worse than the current 65% of GDP, and far worse than the debt-gdp ratio of 45% when Musharraf left office in 2008.

As to Sharif's reference to Pakistan becoming as Asian Tiger under his leadership, it's important to remember the historic fact that Asian Tigers did not become Asian Tigers under "democracy". Democracy came only after Asian Tigers became Asian Tigers.

Questions:

Are voters losing patience with Imran Khan's Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) and Maulana Fazlur Rehman's Jamiat Ulema Islam (JUI)?

Do MQM's big wins in Karachi under military supervision debunk PTI's earlier rigging claims in May elections?

Is Musharraf's indictment in Benazir Bhuto murder case justified? Or is it a part of the continuing judicial vendetta against the former president?

Will government inaction against the Taliban and their sectarian allies embolden them? Will democracy survive the terrorists' growing onslaught?

Will the military stand by and watch Taliban take Peshawar and then move toward Islamabad?

VPOS host Faraz Darvesh discusses these and other questions with Sabahat Ashraf, Ali Hasan Cemendtaur and Riaz Haq.

http://www.riazhaq.com/2013/08/pti-and-jui-f-losses-in-bye-polls.html

 

ashiqbehari

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Musharraf is the most honest, educated and well experienced man with clean proven record. He is the best and has no comparison to any politician whether is in government or in opposition!
 

Sedqal

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Musharraf was a criminal who overthrew an elected government and committed a coup. There is no place for dictators in Jinnah's Pakistan and Pakistani public at large wishes that proper punishment is given to Musharraf so this country does not have to suffer from further adventurism by generals. We the public of this nation, elect our representatives in provincial and national assemblies. PM thus is the representation of public's will, this message must be sent to PA. I have nothing against Musharraf personally (hard to believe but I actually went to a near by govt school to vote in his favor in referendum) but he must pay the price of his crimes.

It is high time that we turn this country back into Jinnah's Pakistan. A modern democratic nation.
 

ashiqbehari

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Some outdated DUMB and paid help (or I should call them sweeper of Sharif family) think that existing outfit came with vote, FALSE. Realities are contrary these corrupt/criminal/incompetent came with pole rigging and soon will be history! And will be in UDIALA along with their paid help & sweepers!
 

desan

President (40k+ posts)
Musharraf was a criminal who overthrew an elected government and committed a coup. There is no place for dictators in Jinnah's Pakistan and Pakistani public at large wishes that proper punishment is given to Musharraf so this country does not have to suffer from further adventurism by generals. We the public of this nation, elect our representatives in provincial and national assemblies. PM thus is the representation of public's will, this message must be sent to PA. I have nothing against Musharraf personally (hard to believe but I actually went to a near by govt school to vote in his favor in referendum) but he must pay the price of his crimes.

It is high time that we turn this country back into Jinnah's Pakistan. A modern democratic nation.

There should be no place for military dictators, and neither for
FAMILY mafias in the garb of political parties....
 

RiazHaq

Senator (1k+ posts)
Here's an excerpt of an Op Ed by Humayun Gauhar in PakistanToday:

The strategy of Musharraf’s detractors was based on the assumption that he would never return and challenge them to prove their charges. When he did he caught them with their pants down and put many of them in the line of fire too. They had assumed that he was a coward like them and would never return except under a deal or pardon. One should be glad that Musharraf did return, as we need to separate truth from falsehood and expose those who would pervert it. The so-called treason case against Musharraf will be interesting too for it could rope in a prime minister, politicians, bureaucrats, generals and judges all acting holier than thou but are now quaking in their boots. (Did I use the word ‘rope’? A Freudian slip, I’m sure).

In their eagerness to seem ‘emancipated’ they stand with the alien western electoral system that regularly throws up leaders who are from “the worst amongst us” and whose follies and foibles invite intervention. Musharraf’s detractors clutch at straws. The crux of the case against him is that he failed to provide adequate security to Benazir. It is not the job of the president to provide security. It is the job of the prime minister and the interior ministry if the capital is involved or the chief minister and home ministry of the province concerned. She was not only given all the security that a former prime minister should get, but more.

If this were so Musharraf should be indicted in two more cases when as president he didn’t provide himself enough security and only escaped two massive assassination attempts that led to the deaths of many. Only God’s Grace and the stupidity of the terrorists saved him, not his own security. That he was president doesn’t dilute the ‘argument’; he is culpable. By this reasoning George W. Bush should also be indicted for failing to provide adequate security on 9/11. The global list is endless. It would become a circus.

Benazir had repeatedly been warned by Pakistan’s intelligence and security agencies and also by foreign governments that there were serious assassination threats against her. Yet she returned before the date she had agreed to with the US. The National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO) certainly was a huge error by Musharraf for not only has the country paid a heavy price for it as indeed has Musharraf but a terrible precedent has been set: if you are a big thief you are above the law, only small thieves aren’t. The Supreme Court has since struck the NRO down. Why is it not being implemented?

It is said that the ISI chief visited Benazir at her Islamabad home that morning to dissuade her from attending the Rawalpindi rally, but she remained adamant. If Musharraf wanted her assassinated why would they have tried so hard to persuade her not to attend the rally? If they had placed her under house arrest Benazir would have raised an unseemly ruckus over being denied the right to campaign. The government was caught in a bind.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/08/25/comment/columns/games-people-play/
 

RiazHaq

Senator (1k+ posts)
Musharraf was a criminal who overthrew an elected government and committed a coup. There is no place for dictators in Jinnah's Pakistan and Pakistani public at large wishes that proper punishment is given to Musharraf so this country does not have to suffer from further adventurism by generals. We the public of this nation, elect our representatives in provincial and national assemblies. PM thus is the representation of public's will, this message must be sent to PA. I have nothing against Musharraf personally (hard to believe but I actually went to a near by govt school to vote in his favor in referendum) but he must pay the price of his crimes.

It is high time that we turn this country back into Jinnah's Pakistan. A modern democratic nation.

So the question still is: Was Pakistan on its way to becoming an Asian Tiger in 1999 as Nawaz Sharif claimed in his recent TV address to the nation? Or did he lie to the people? Is that what you expect in Jinnah's Pakistan? Deceitful politicians?

http://www.pakalumni.com/profiles/blogs/pakistans-lost-decade-of-1990s